What would you do?

[frisson]

A mate of mine rang me this about a recent punting story

He rang his local regular brothel and asked if any new women. He knows the manager and the brothel for about 1 year, not great recruiting but value punting there
It's not a top tier brothel, he likes budget punting these days. $160/hour. He also likes slim ladies

Told was a new lady coming the next day, very sexy. New. Manager texted him an appealing photo of the lady, which only showed her from behind, seemed ok, but no face and hard to tell what build she was

He booked an early 2pm appointment after his worked finished. So it's a formal booking, made in good faith, no doubt the lady had a busy schedule for her first week

Anyway he arrived, paid, and was shown to the room. He sees the lady, she looks masculine, probably a lady but about 70kg, not fat, had feminine curves, nice enough lady but definitely not my friends style. Solid build but not fat if that makes sense. Female sounding voice, probably female, my mate gives her benefit of the doubt. Right then he was disappointed, but had paid his money

My mate told me he didn't want to offend the manager or the lady and went ahead. He left after 30 minutes of a 60 minute session, because on this rare occasion he just didn't feel like sex! For the first ten minutes he just lay on the bed with his eyes closed. She wasn't fat or hairy, reasonably clean, but described as absolutely not appealing to him or he says, not appealing to most men (with the greatest of respect). Nothing personal, wasn't her fault

Question
You know the shop and the manager.
What would you do if you arrive at 2pm, like he did?
Do you ask to see the lady before paying, and risk her losing that booking because you don't find her at all appealing. And say I can't go through with it? Do you offend the manager and lady and say she isn't what you were expecting, both face and build ,(not fat) body

My mate finished by telling me he will insist next time with text that he won't go through with the booking the lady is of large build, but he doesn't want to be rude or unfair to hard working WLs

He also said he will won't venture to the more costly brothels, at least for this year, given cost of living

[punter-pie]

It's the risk you take. That said I have walked in this situation before if they didn't match what I was told. More often than not I have left after 30 mins and on occasion have been offered a partial refund.

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[frisson]

It's the risk you take. That said I have walked in this situation before if they didn't match what I was told. More often than not I have left after 30 mins and on occasion have been offered a partial refund.

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If you leave half way, on what basis did you ask for a refund?

You can't say the WL was masculine ugly, (and solid not fat build), being the very respectful punters that we are. My friend is certain most punters would state that his WL was 'not appealing, but not her fault' (his words)

[JSteel96]

Never go for sight unseen, you have to see the girl before you pay. He should have asked to look at her in person first before he paid. If you haven't seen her so many things can go wrong. I heard a story where one guy punted and had not seen the women and he aid first and he got taken to back room. She was behind the curtain. When he got there it was a cougar granny looked like she hadn't washed in between guys seeing her. I say try to find a regular girl your happy with. Next time do not take someone else's word that the girl is hot and sexy. This one reason I don't like bookings. I rather see a line up and pick the girl I like.

This another reason I am happy with my regular. Having a regular your happy with who knows you gives you a better experience for most guys.

Why if the manager did not provide better pics of her body did the guy still go ahead and book her? I'd say time for that guy to punt elsewhere and get a couple of regulars.

[frisson]

Never go for sight unseen, you have to see the girl before you pay

Thanks, Jsteel, that's a well thought out answer. Don't punt without paying. So you say he basically cancels that booking, on arrival? He probably won't be welcome back for a while doing that! Manager would be unimpressed and it's a let down for the lady of course
I told him next time, before he books a WL sight unseen, he says that if the lady is not slim but is larger, then he may cancel the booking when he arrives. The photo was misleading and the manager knows he prefers a slim MILF

[punter-pie]

If you leave half way, on what basis did you ask for a refund?

You can't say the WL was masculine ugly, (and solid not fat build), being the very respectful punters that we are. My friend is certain most punters would state that his WL was 'not appealing, but not her fault' (his words)Where did I say I asked for a refund?

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[frisson]

More often than not I have left after 30 mins and on occasion have been offered a partial refund

I mean to ask, on what basis did they offer you a partial refund? Because you didn't find the lady at all appealing?

[JSteel96]

Thanks, Jsteel, that's a well thought out answer. Don't punt without paying. So you say he basically cancels that booking, on arrival? He probably won't be welcome back for a while doing that! Manager would be unimpressed and it's a let down for the lady of course
I told him next time, before he books a WL sight unseen, he says that if the lady is not slim but is larger, then he may cancel the booking when he arrives. The photo was misleading and the manager knows he prefers a slim MILF

He should have said to the manager I need to see her in person before I pay for the session. Get some sort of agreement he can come and look at her first then accept or back out. If he likes her then pay up. If he doesn't be honest to the manager shes not my type and walk out saying see you next time. Never ever pay for a girl you don't physically see first. When I've been in brothels I asked for line up and take my pick and I usually go for the one with the nicest smile as long as shes Asian. Of course that if the brothel has enough girls avail when you go in.

[Vincent888]

Would anyone buy a horse without viewing?

[punter-pie]

I mean to ask, on what basis did they offer you a partial refund? Because you didn't find the lady at all appealing?I think its pretty obvious if you leave half way through that you aren't happy.

I never complain or ask for a refund because of the appearance of the WL or their skill, after all, it's punting.

I will give feedback only if the girl does not put in effort

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[Ghost2hauntU]

Why would anyone pay before they meet the girl in person is beyond my understanding.

[Vincent888]

Inexperienced punter?

[frisson]

So recommendations include, only book if the lady has good feedback, with a new lady you are told about but no feedback, don't pay until seeing her
But dont complain or ask for a refund because of the appearance of the WL or their skill, after all, it's punting.
Only give feedback if the girl does not put in effort, or if she is timewasting
My mate says the lady looked half male, no disrespect intended

[JSteel96]

So recommendations include, only book if the lady has good feedback, with a new lady you are told about but no feedback, don't pay until seeing her
But dont complain or ask for a refund because of the appearance of the WL or their skill, after all, it's punting.
Only give feedback if the girl does not put in effort, or if she is timewasting
My mate says the lady looked half male, no disrespect intended

Maybe it was a ladyboy with a surprise sausage down below if she looked half male she probably was or more over it was a man who had a sex change.

[frisson]

Maybe it was a ladyboy with a surprise sausage down below if she looked half male she probably was or more over it was a man who had a sex change.
My mate wasn't traumatized in that regard. More like a butch lady if you know what I mean. But you are right, unless you check the hands and the Adams apple, you can be fooled

He wouldn't have stayed for a minute, if there were two dicks in the room. I doubt a shop would do that to you, a male transexual, pre-operation. That would definitely cause PTSD, no offense

[GoldfishMan]

More than 1 year relationship with this shop and they still "do not know" his taste? Set him up with a girl that is clearly different from all the previous girls he's had during that year.
I wouldn't have bothered trying to keep that relationship. Just straight cancel the booking and don't go back there anymore. That shop is not worth being loyal to if that's how they are.

[Hidden Python]

Your mate is an idiot, muscle milfs are a unicorn.
He sounds like a wimpy Beta Simp, that has ZERO masculinity,
Any Alpha would of though he won the lottery and fucked like crazy fast and hard at full speed for the whole hour.
He could of slapped that arse, pulled her hair, ride that pony and she would of loved it all.
She probably would of given him free anal too

[RO1312]

That’s “punting”….. win some lose some. NEXT!

[JSteel96]

My mate wasn't traumatized in that regard. More like a butch lady if you know what I mean. But you are right, unless you check the hands and the Adams apple, you can be fooled

He wouldn't have stayed for a minute, if there were two dicks in the room. I doubt a shop would do that to you, a male transexual, pre-operation. That would definitely cause PTSD, no offense

Well hopefully hes learned his lesson. Some shemales had their dick cut off and try to pass as a real female although you can usually spot this very quickly. I wouldn't have ever paid up front as many are saying here. If they refuse to let you see the girl first before paying you better have your running shoes on and get the hell out of there. Then again if they want cash up front sight unseen bail out immediately. Punters have to stick up for themselves in shops. You never know what shops will try they want your cash. They have been known to spring wrinkled up grandmas with smells coming from their pussies on to punters. These are the type you pay first and find out after paying.

[gamer2]

If they've paid they've paid. Can either take the punt and commit to something lesser (1 hour massage) or could've made some excuse to leave. Emergencies happen; boss just called and have to bail, girlfriend called and wanted to know where I was so I have to leave right now, just remembered I left the stove on...

[Vincent888]

They have been known to spring wrinkled up grandmas with smells coming from their pussies on to punters.

There’s a market for everything…. I think.

[JSteel96]

There’s a market for everything…. I think.

smelly creampied granny pussies market?? Some punter would still dive in lol

[frisson]

All this is really good recommendations.
I spoke to my mate today. The WLs attitude was fine.

He says he was blindsided by the shop, and put his trust in them, but they totally ignored his preferences and put their needs before his. Funny how businesses work, would have thought a business would respect a regular customer. The customer as is paying your bills.

He told me he needs to be very clear with these business managers about his preferences, otherwise they see you as a sucker

He isn't a beginner punter but clearly he trusted too much
He needs to make it absolutely clear he doesn't want a butch MILF

He says the WL was most likely female

He also was too rushed to check what the transexual signs to look for are and asked how do you do it in a darkened room
Do you look at size of hands and for a big Adams apple? Is it obvious when you are doing this that you are doubting her femininity?

[Vincent888]

I think having a TS adds variety.

That’s just my opinion though.

[frisson]

I think having a TS adds variety.

That’s just my opinion though.
Is that why in a previous thread you said you visited Palmer Street in Darlinghurst?

[Vincent888]

Is that why in a previous thread you said you visited Palmer Street in Darlinghurst?

I knew you’d bite, yes. But they’d have to be good sorts.

[frisson]

I knew you’d bite, yes. But they’d have to be good sorts.

Haha. You know me alright.
I mean nothing more than fun banter

[Vincent888]

Haha. You know me alright.
I mean nothing more than fun banter

Last one was another ship I passed in the night.

The main thing was safe sex. That and a big load. I love when they examine the amount, then comment.

[keebab]

I have a cheap shop that messages on the regular but is always sketchy with the details of new arrivals.

I can ask "are they young and slim?" and get back "they are soft and beautiful". I know how to read between the lines.

[frisson]

I have a cheap shop that messages on the regular but is always sketchy with the details of new arrivals.

I can ask "are they young and slim?" and get back "they are soft and beautiful". I know how to read between the lines.

So keebab, what do you do?

Regular budget shop sends you a text. New lady. Photo of her from behind. Gives you no information apart from 'New lady. Asian, from China'

Do you book, (you can't just turn up as she may be booked). Or do you ask the manager to see her at a certain time, and drop her and leave without paying, if she is not appealing to you?

[JSteel96]

So keebab, what do you do?

Regular budget shop sends you a text. New lady. Photo of her from behind. Gives you no information apart from 'New lady. Asian, from China'

Do you book, (you can't just turn up as she may be booked). Or do you ask the manager to see her at a certain time, and drop her and leave without paying, if she is not appealing to you?

I would not book you can't tell anything from the pic, could be an Asian ladyboy

[frisson]

Never go for sight unseen, you have to see the girl before you pay. He should have asked to look at her in person first before he paid.
We all like lineups but they aren't offered at all shops
So let's get practical.
You are personally texted a photo of a New lady
You would tell the manager, 'I will be there at 2pm' (that's when my friend arrived), and you tell the manager I need to see the lady at 2pm before I book. You then arrive at the shop at 2pm, the lady is free. You ask to see her, you see her.
She is butch
You say you dont find her appealing, and then say to the manager who you have known for a year, 'Goodbye, I'm not booking'. Is that the steps you would take?

[woodland]

i would give the shop a holiday

[jedibear]

You're the customer...it's your cash to spend. I would say thanks but no thanks...

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[Vincent888]

smelly creampied granny pussies market?? Some punter would still dive in lol

Getting back out is another matter.

[frisson]

Getting back out is another matter.
You might find your old Merc parked out back, Vincent 888

[Vincent888]

You might find your old Merc parked out back, Vincent 888

Nah it’s a WB stato with bowling hat on the rear parcel shelf. Old Merc is too upmarket for the blue rinse set. Well, the ones that can still suck cock anyway. I hear a toothless BBBJ is something to behold, I mean befelt.

Being a man of the world have you had any experience in such?

[frisson]

Nah it’s a WB stato with bowling hat on the rear parcel shelf. Merc is too upmarket for the blue rinse set. Well, the ones that can still suck cock anyway. I hear a toothless BBBJ is something to behold, I mean befelt.

Being a man of the world have you had any experience in such?

Experience with what?
A WB stato or your favourite pleasure, the toothless BJ?

[Vincent888]

Experience with what?
A WB stato or your favourite pleasure, the toothless BJ?

My favourite pleasure. I was asking you the question. You can’t throw back a question like it’s a used condom and hope I’ll pick it up?

[frisson]

Never partaken my friend. Not on my 10 item bucket list

[frisson]

My favourite pleasure. I was asking you the question. You can’t throw back a question like it’s a used condom and hope I’ll pick it up?
I would never throw a used condom at you. A few playful insults, maybe

[Vincent888]

I’ll have to look at that bucket list thread

[frisson]

I’ll have to look at that bucket list thread
Sorry, I meant you should start a thread on peoples' 10 item bucket list
However, you have nothing left to experience, apart from f_cking an alien

[Vincent888]

Sorry, I meant you should start a thread on peoples' 10 item bucket list
However, you have nothing left to experience, apart from f_cking an alien

Love is an experience I’m chasing.

Real love.

Love that hurts.
Love that is kind.
Love that is gentle.
Love that is unconditional.

[frisson]

Love is an experience I’m chasing.

Real love.

Love that hurts.
Love that is kind.
Love that is gentle.
Love that is unconditional.

Doesnt that stuff evaporate as you get older?

[jedibear]

Yeah i dont care for love...i just wanna good root and thats it...

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[Vincent888]

Doesnt that stuff evaporate as you get older?

Not when you find someone, no.

[frisson]

Not when you find someone, no.
There is no love like young love. Care to discuss?

[JohnJones]

Love is an experience I’m chasing.

Real love.

Love that hurts.
Love that is kind.
Love that is gentle.
Love that is unconditional.

Love doesn't hurt. Attachment does. Love heals, because it's nature is unconditional. The "love" that we mistaken in most parts of life is actually us coveting what others have that we don't. We see couples walking about in Darling Harbour and we think to ourselves "Why can't I live that life?". We can, but we need a lot of work to make it happen.

[Vincent888]

I takes two to tango.