Am I the Ass hole?

[T1ooo]

Hi Guys,

Set me straight here, am I the ass hole here?

i went to an massage shop, that does happy finish but not full service. it was quite a bit as i had not been there since after covid. I chose the $75 for 1 hour - i was surprised it was quite abit. I did need a massage and adding on the extra $50 for nude + hj & touching, and possibly more i thought id give it a go.

Anyways, i didnt click with the girl, i didnt find her attractive , was from Thailand, and I've had bad bad experiences with lady boys and post opps, so i decided to decline the extras which was $50 for HJ and $80 for nude (or total i didn't understand fully) and CBJ extra i dono the exact price but it was quite high for me,.. this pushes it into the realm of full service prices at least for 30min. I have declined extras in the past at many places well a hand full and some were not even offered, go figure...

Anyway, the girl starts going on about it, sobbing and complaining how she makes nothing from the massage, and the shop takes it all and only makes money of extras, this is news to me, and quite illegal i would have thought.... coz i said atleast 5 times its too much, its too much,..

So am i the ass hole here or do i have the right to decline the extras if i don't feel it.....

I mean end of the day im not a fucking walking wallet for them, the shop could take $50 and leave the girl $25 at least, its not really my problem, she agreed to work there.

end of the day yes she worked, but if i had not come in, she would have made nothing anyways, and been on tick tock or her phone as it was. so meh

Ps, what i found strange was that she wouldn't lower her prices either, so walked away with nothing, i might have done it for like $40 all included, but she didn't want to budge like its owed to here, nup.

[funboybrisbane]

You're not the asshole. But definitely name and shame the shop. $75 and the girls don't get a cut. That's just not on in my eyes.

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[carmen farquis]

I doubt very much the shop takes the entire fee, just a sob story so you pay extra.


if it is true there a heaps of other shops she could work at.

[TheBigChungus]

NTA! That’s like the tip argument in the US where, they make $2 an hr waiting tables and expect to make a living off of tips from the customers. The employer should be paying them fair wages from the beginning and anything additional is just cherry on top.

Surely in punting no one here is dumb enough to think YTA. If there are, they’re a lost cause.

[schloong]

No mate, you are not the asshole & you were right to stand your ground. She just sounds greedy to me...

If the shop is charging $75 for the hour, the ML is probably getting $25 - $30 of that, so definitely not "nothing" like she told you. You did the right thing Bro.

[charmingninjaman]

Yeah she is most likely just trying to pull wool over your eyes - more than likely she gets a cut of massage like most shops

[T1ooo]

I doubt very much the shop takes the entire fee, just a sob story so you pay extra.


if it is true there a heaps of other shops she could work at.

Yeah that's right, EVEN if they do HOW is that my problem? She agreed to work under those conditions (which obviously i doubt and same would go for the other girls)

I don't like to cause trouble for the place usually but that was shit house, the shop is 197 clarence street in the CDB. https://sydneymassagewaxing.com.au/

fuck them

[l337dude]

It's actually "expected behavior" these days to tip at least $50 for the HJ at a RnT shop (did you take your pants off?), call it the norm in this industry or whatever you want, at the end of the day nobody can force you to pay or tip the extra but most places/girls are not going to handle well if you just pay the base rate and refuse any extras, if you do that a couple of times I can guarantee you will be blacklisted from the shop/girl, but I'm sure in this case you won't visit the shop again because it's a shit house anyway LOL

The ML should get a cut from the base rate of $75 but it's going to be a very small cut, depending on the shop, and she's actually not wrong that most MLs earn mainly from extras because they get to keep the whole lot.

Look at it this way, if you hadn't seen her, another punter may have walked in and picked her and she may've gotten extra $50-100 or even more from that guy, not saying that was going to happen just using it as an example , but you see my point.

So to answer your question you are not the asshole and you have the right to decline the extras (I'm sure it's just a one-off incident where the girl was horrible or at least I hope that was the case), but keep doing that and I can guarantee you will not be welcome in many RnT shops.

If you just want a massage there's always the option of legit massage shops in your local mall with rebate and all the rest.

This is also one of the reason I seldom go to RnT these days, too much hassle and uncertainty with the extra BS.

[ColesBag]

This is also one of the reason I seldom go to RnT these days, too much hassle and uncertainty with the extra BS.

I have to say I'm careful with my RnT because I actually want a solid massage. If I don't get one then from my experience the Part 2/3 either won't interest me or it won't be very good.

Very common setup that the girls keep the extras however never accept the first offer no matter what they say.

When you go to a car dealer do you accept the " I won't make any money on this deal " bullshit? ;)

[local]

Yeah that's right, EVEN if they do HOW is that my problem? She agreed to work under those conditions (which obviously i doubt and same would go for the other girls)

I don't like to cause trouble for the place usually but that was shit house, the shop is XXX xxxxxxx street in the CDB.

fuck them

Well, if your story is true, you have been lied to.

No girl will work for extras only, plus its also illegal.

You should speak to the shop manager and remove the ident material in your post.

[aussiegaigin]

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[T1ooo]

Well, if your story is true, you have been lied to.

No girl will work for extras only, plus its also illegal.

You should speak to the shop manager and remove the ident material in your post.


Why remove it? It’s the truth. When I walked out I didn’t get anything from the receptionist not even a look up.

[bummer]

Why remove it? It’s the truth. When I walked out I didn’t get anything from the receptionist not even a look up.

the girl fed you bullshit, and you believe it.

Yes you are an arsehole !!

[T1ooo]

yeah fuck her i say.

there are much harder working girls, in the past ive gotten a hour massage, the works and even bbbj cim + swallow & sex for what she was asking.

The massage was pretty good though still.

oh well.

and nah i wont be going back and no ive never from what i can remember right now perhaps 2-3 times ive turned it down at r&t place, not the norm and other times not even offered! lol so whats the go there, kogra have $60 sex day time specials, so meh im over it now, was feeling really down but on a high now.

[Bunty4]

Hi Guys,

Set me straight here, am I the ass hole here?

i went to an massage shop, that does happy finish but not full service. it was quite a bit as i had not been there since after covid. I chose the $75 for 1 hour - i was surprised it was quite abit. I did need a massage and adding on the extra $50 for nude + hj & touching, and possibly more i thought id give it a go.

Anyways, i didnt click with the girl, i didnt find her attractive , was from Thailand, and I've had bad bad experiences with lady boys and post opps, so i decided to decline the extras which was $50 for HJ and $80 for nude (or total i didn't understand fully) and CBJ extra i dono the exact price but it was quite high for me,.. this pushes it into the realm of full service prices at least for 30min. I have declined extras in the past at many places well a hand full and some were not even offered, go figure...

Anyway, the girl starts going on about it, sobbing and complaining how she makes nothing from the massage, and the shop takes it all and only makes money of extras, this is news to me, and quite illegal i would have thought.... coz i said atleast 5 times its too much, its too much,..

So am i the ass hole here or do i have the right to decline the extras if i don't feel it.....

I mean end of the day im not a fucking walking wallet for them, the shop could take $50 and leave the girl $25 at least, its not really my problem, she agreed to work there.

end of the day yes she worked, but if i had not come in, she would have made nothing anyways, and been on tick tock or her phone as it was. so meh

Ps, what i found strange was that she wouldn't lower her prices either, so walked away with nothing, i might have done it for like $40 all included, but she didn't want to budge like its owed to here, nup.
If you go to an RnT shop , book for an hour and then decline extras, yes you are an ass hole. If you don’t click cut down session to 30 minutes and be off…check the girl before handing over your 75$.
Normally girl make 25-35$ for 60 minutes , 15$ for 30 minutes…which is not what they are in sex industry for. They are expecting to make atleast 75$ in that hour… so yes don’t waste your money and their time.

Btw 197 is a well run shop … I have not gone here for over 5 months now but in past 3 years I have had multiple good experiences.

[Will_1_am]

Tried this place once. Milfy Asian lady ~with dyed blonde hair. Called herself Vivien. Gave a good massage with decent TT then wanted ridiculous money for extras. I declined so the price came down. The price was still expensive but I was thinking about how she's given a good massage and the extras are how she makes her money and I don't want to piss her off etc etc and though not the most attractive, she gave off an experienced, good time vibe and she had a slim, fit figure so I relented and took her up on a CBJ. So she started with a quick rub of my cock and balls then rolled the condom on me at half hard then sucked for all she was worth to get me done in three minutes. I wish I'd been as decisive as OP and just walked away.
And agree with @aussiegaingin that this post doesn't belong here.

[gamer2]

I also went to a R&T and booked in an ML who advised that she makes nothing for massages only. I came in for the extras anyway but it wasnt a sob story, we got into a conversation about work and the economy. Maybe its the current trend?

[limbi8888]

I also went to a R&T and booked in an ML who advised that she makes nothing for massages only. I came in for the extras anyway but it wasnt a sob story, we got into a conversation about work and the economy. Maybe its the current trend?

Yeah i've heard it before also, don't forget RnT are not exactly legal businesses either, so i don't really think its a lie

[WeirdAlWankabit]

I don’t think you’re an asshole. But sometimes what you get is what you get with an RnT shop. I’d probably just get the bare minimum, lie back and relax

[yonah]

Yeah i've heard it before also, don't forget RnT are not exactly legal businesses either, so i don't really think its a lie

The legally licenced ones are a little more secure I guess. Tips included, no need to be scared of council raids so the girl's income will solely depend on how popular she is.

If we talk about the economy there's not one year in our short lives where anyone says that the economy is "good" only stable. A good economy would be one where people can easily get rich doing nothing. It all boils down to our spending habits - the less we spend the more we save, and we'll end up with more expendable cash for whatever it is that comes up in the future.

[Mitch97]

No mate your fine, I would've done the same

[runrun]

Your body (and wallet), your choice!

[tate]

No if they can’t offer nhj for $50 just leave

[banshee987]

Just wanted to add my limited experience with this shop. I generally only attend when I need a wax, maybe every 6-8 weeks. The wax is always very professional and for me, almost painless. As I am there already I always have a massage before or after. Mostly the girls are excellent, however my attitude is, their job is hard and I am not there to make it more difficult. I generally pay the asking rate and if I have a special time I will add a tip. So I really don't have the situation the OP had to compare with. All I can say is I have been going to this shop for many years and always found the staff very professional. Things have been tough in the city for all businesses since covid and I guess the incomes haven't got back to where they were. I don't go here as my regular shop as I prefer a more intense experience, but generally this shop has been good to me.