Market Price Punting Question for 2024

[frisson]

QUESTION:
IN 2024, WHO HAS THE MOST SAY IN THE MARKET PRICES FOR PUNTING IN MASSAGE SHOPS AND BROTHELS ?

THE SHOP MANAGERS
OR
THE PUNTING PUBLIC?

For example
A brothel has charged you $350 for Diamond Service and you are told the WL may CIM
The WL is nice but in the room, asks you for an extra $50 cash for CIM

Do you accept this, or do you complain that the extra costs are getting out of hand, with no change in a discretionary service?

Or more cleverly, do you check with the manager before you walk in every door of every punt, so you can be clear if this shop truly has your back, or just your wallet ?

This is discretionary income
Unlike getting a haircut or paying tolls, you don't need this service to survive. They definitely need your patronage
Just now I got a text on my burner phone from a nice but quiet shop. They need your business

If other recreational venues increase beer prices or entry fees any further, if cinemas double ticket prices, if clothes shops raise prices by just $20 per item, their staff will be lining up at Centrelink within 2 years

[JSteel96]

The one question is if the prices for WLs / MLs rise in 2024 at what price do you say no its too expensive? If further wars break out and there is a high chance of that prices of everything will sky rocket. The shop owners would be the ones who would have the most say assuming they are in charge of the managers. There's always a king pin in charge higher up as well than managers / shop owners.

[MDPorto]

When do we say - "unfortunately I can no longer afford to go every week, rather I can only afford to go three times in a month", basically implementing a change to the punting routine that you have become accustomed to in recent years? This is what will hurt the shops the most. One would be surprised at actually how much they rely on regulars walking through the door.

In answer to the question - it's the punting public that ultimately dictate the prices, not the shops, not the managers, and not the service providers.

[keebab]

Talking with a manager today. The shops have been quieter than usual during the Xmas/New Year period. There's not as much disposable income around. It's just the reality for the coming year.

[local]

Talking with a manager today. The shops have been quieter than usual during the Xmas/New Year period. There's not as much disposable income around. It's just the reality for the coming year.

normal for this time BUT it is very dependant on their position.

One thing which is very noticeable is position relative to public transport (particularly rail - both heavy and light).

[begov94]

Talking with a manager today. The shops have been quieter than usual during the Xmas/New Year period. There's not as much disposable income around. It's just the reality for the coming year.

Many are becoming very wary of the drop in their purchasing power. I could imagine myself working in my pre-COVID job up until today and I might have to cut my punting down to once or twice a month in massage shops, pay 30mins + 1 pineapple for HJ only because my old workplaces have either stagnated in their wages or have increased wages but with the catch of reduced working hours.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Its going to be a tough year for everyone, while interest rates probably won't rise they certainly won't be going down for a while yet and un employment is on the rise as well. The building industry is still in serious trouble with so many firms going bankrupt and that ripples down through the service industries.

The only reason house prices are rising again to pre covid levels is that the Chinese housing market has crashed and those Chinese investors are coming here to buy up all our houses at absurd prices. Coupled with the problem that our banks have so much exposure on their books that they can't afford mass foreclosures so they're "assisting" people to re arrange their finances.

There's not going to be a lot of spare cash around in 2024.

[GoldfishMan]

I reckon the demand elasticity of punting is affected by macroeconomic factors more than the price of punting, up to a certain point. It's very similar to medical products. If there was no alternative to a medicine, a company could just keep jacking up the price and people would still buy it because there's no substitute for it. Up to a price level that it literally costs an arm and a leg, then they might start to see the effect of price impact on the sales volume.

Based on this, I reckon prices will keep escalating through 2024. We may see FS extras at RNTs go up to $200, and FS shops might start charging $300 /hr as a minimum. We need this medicine for our sex addictions.

[frisson]

I reckon the demand elasticity of punting is affected by macroeconomic factors more than the price of punting, up to a certain point. It's very similar to medical products. If there was no alternative to a medicine, a company could just keep jacking up the price and people would still buy it because there's no substitute for it. Up to a price level that it literally costs an arm and a leg, then they might start to see the effect of price impact on the sales volume.

Based on this, I reckon prices will keep escalating through 2024. We may see FS extras at RNTs go up to $200, and FS shops might start charging $300 /hr as a minimum. We need this medicine for our sex addictions.
Bro you may be right.

Punters may not all read syd99, BUT
EVERY PUNTER THAT READS FORUMS AND UNDERSTANDS THE MARKETPLACE, NEEDS TO SHIFT ONLY TO SHOPS THAT HAVE YOUR BACK

GREEDY SHOPS WILL GO QUIETER, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. LET THEM STEW IN THE PROBLEM THAT THEY CREATED

[Thickman]

I went from 3 times a week down to 2 times a week and now I'm down to once every 3 weeks and I have to force myself to go because I have virtually lost all my interest in punting.
With all the interest rate rises and with the cost of living going up ,this form of entertainment has really taken a back seat for me .

[frisson]

I went from 3 times a week down to 2 times a week and now I'm down to once every 3 weeks and I have to force myself to go because I have virtually lost all my interest in punting.
With all the interest rate rises and with the cost of living going up ,this form of entertainment has really taken a back seat for me .
Agree mate.

Punting may take a back seat as you say, and stop, for many many men, if shops try increasing prices further in 2024. More likely people will avoid high prices shops entirely. There are simply too many options in Sydney

Like many, I'm finding life getting quite challenging. Love a punt and always support VFM punting
Let's continue calling out the price gouging if and when it occurs

[Sibon]

QUESTION:
IN 2024, WHO HAS THE MOST SAY IN THE MARKET PRICES FOR PUNTING IN MASSAGE SHOPS AND BROTHELS ?

THE SHOP MANAGERS
OR
THE PUNTING PUBLIC?

For example
A brothel has charged you $350 for Diamond Service and you are told the WL may CIM
The WL is nice but in the room, asks you for an extra $50 cash for CIM

Do you accept this, or do you complain that the extra costs are getting out of hand, with no change in a discretionary service?

Or more cleverly, do you check with the manager before you walk in every door of every punt, so you can be clear if this shop truly has your back, or just your wallet ?

This is discretionary income
Unlike getting a haircut or paying tolls, you don't need this service to survive. They definitely need your patronage
Just now I got a text on my burner phone from a nice but quiet shop. They need your business

If other recreational venues increase beer prices or entry fees any further, if cinemas double ticket prices, if clothes shops raise prices by just $20 per item, their staff will be lining up at Centrelink within 2 years

I've been fishing over the Christmas/New Year holidays.

No one charges me $200 an hour for fishing.

Punting is the most expensive pastime a man can fall into. Satisfaction is no guaranteed and we are at the mercy of MLs in the rooms.

[GoldfishMan]

In my case, my 2023 consisted of a 6 month spell where I completely did not punt, followed by a 3 month spree averaging 3 punts a week, and then 3 more months of no punting.

That first 6 months was an eye opener for me. I started trying to make cuts in my living expenses and realised just how disproportionately expensive this hobby was. For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub, only to find that I could blow the entire amount in a single punt. I put 1 whole year of entertainment for me and my family, vs the 1 punt. It’s a no brainer!

Almost everything I cut in my expenses paled in comparison to punting. Not even close to it.

I’m in a better position than some because my wife is still sexy and is usually horny for sex with me, but if you don’t have a partner to get your sex from, I can see it’s going to be a bit of struggle for you. Just keep in mind how much money you pay for this shit compared to everything else. That might help you see through the fog.

[Percy1]

In my case, my 2023 consisted of a 6 month spell where I completely did not punt, followed by a 3 month spree averaging 3 punts a week, and then 3 more months of no punting.

That first 6 months was an eye opener for me. I started trying to make cuts in my living expenses and realised just how disproportionately expensive this hobby was. For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub, only to find that I could blow the entire amount in a single punt. I put 1 whole year of entertainment for me and my family, vs the 1 punt. It’s a no brainer!

Almost everything I cut in my expenses paled in comparison to punting. Not even close to it.

I’m in a better position than some because my wife is still sexy and is usually horny for sex with me, but if you don’t have a partner to get your sex from, I can see it’s going to be a bit of struggle for you. Just keep in mind how much money you pay for this shit compared to everything else. That might help you see through the fog.

It took you a year to work out netflix is cheaper than a punt.

Explains everything

[begov94]

It took you a year to work out netflix is cheaper than a punt.

Explains everything

I'd rather spend the money being out under the sun in nature than for a movie subscription that gets boring unless they release new titles. There's many adventures to look out for that doesn't break the bank plus it is better for your health.

[GoldfishMan]

It took you a year to work out netflix is cheaper than a punt.

Explains everything

Wow, how incredibly stupid you are. Like legendary stupidity. It took me a year to calculate how much I’d save from cancelling Netflix?

Before you post a reply in anger, wait a few minutes and let those gears work out where you went wrong.

[MDPorto]

To summarise a point I made in the other thread, the saddest thing of all is that the general culture of the adult services industry has changed.

There was a time when RnT was a 'specialised art form', and we had shops who were strictly RnT with a no extras policy, who managed to recruit the best of the best and ensure they were properly trained. Even if there was a 'premium price', as the punter you knew what you were getting and there was no pressure from either side to hustle for extras.

Unfortunately, the 'hustler culture' is now embedded and here to stay. As punters, the only way for us to combat that is to dictate and stick to a standard pricing model on extras... and not over-pay.

While there are still some shops training their staff, and making changes to continue evolving and improving their business, these are now few and far between.
Some shops over the last couple of years have installed ATMs on premises... let me ask the community this, is this a 'value add' point of improvement for these specific shops, or a 'red flag'?

[David1218]

This might sound a bit sad, but I invested in getting a VR Headset and subscribed to sexlikereal via DEOVR player. It's way cheaper than punting,it's been working and it gets rid of my urges.

[begov94]

Some shops over the last couple of years have installed ATMs on premises... let me ask the community this, is this a 'value add' point of improvement for these specific shops, or a 'red flag'?

Definitely a red flag. See, the shop is making money from ATM withdrawal fees as these ATMs are not owned by the banks. Then they receive payment in cash - they're definitely not going to record those transactions in the books.

If you really want to support these businesses (and withdraw cash from their in-house ATM rather than at the bank with zero fees) you need to make sure either the shop recruits honest girls or there is a girl there that you can trust with all your needs and you don't mind becoming her regular. Whenever these shops have to cancel my regular and offers me another girl, I often say no thanks because I know the experience will be totally different if not disappointing.

[frisson]

For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub, only to find that I could blow the entire amount in a single punt.
Just keep in mind how much money you pay for this shit compared to everything else. That might help you see through the fog.

This has always been my point too. We are the customer, we do need to set prices and avoid high charging shops

Of course, there are some here on the forum who are home or yacht owners, aged their 40s or higher, who have MUCH higher discretionary incomes - they pay neither rent nor mortgage! It wouldn't matter to these lucky wealthy men, if full service ends up at $600/hour at a brothel

If you pay a rent or mortgage and punting is harder now to afford, you will understand the issue

[begov94]

This has always been my point too. We are the customer, we do need to set prices and avoid high charging shops

Of course, there are some here on the forum who are home or yacht owners, aged their 40s or higher, who have MUCH higher discretionary incomes - they pay neither rent nor mortgage! It wouldn't matter to the if wealthy if full service ends up at $600 at a brothel

If you pay a rent or mortgage and punting is harder now to afford, you will understand the issue

The people who pay that kind of money are disillusioned by the looks of the WL, thinking that her fake overalls (tan, boobs, hair, hips) are the reason why their aging wives or mistresses can't turn them on anymore. They think these WLs are the same like Rolex's - the more expensive the better the quality.

Connection is in the mind. If you can connect mentally with someone it doesn't matter if they're fat, wrinkly or too skinny you'd be able to get off easily, sometimes cumming prematurely before insertion.

[andrewv]

Sometimes I wonder which are the key factors that affect the prices brothels and massage shops charge. I guess most of you will reply saying it is a combination of everything.

1. Demand and supply. Prices would increase if the girls are getting more demand than they can supply in a given day, or else they sit around earning little.
2. Perception: where men "value" getting laid and become happy to pay a high price.
3. Market dysfunction: Why a woman who opens her legs and lets a guy fuck her for 30 minutes for more money than a female doctor makes in 2 hours after studying for many years.

When you read many of the recruitment pages that brothels post (usually, in Japanese and Korean languages), and the promise that the girls can make $2,000 to $3,000 a day which is mostly tax-free, you wonder if this is a fair value for money. After all, any professional woman (lawyer, doctor, accountant) would struggle to make this amount after tax.

[GoldfishMan]

This might sound a bit sad, but I invested in getting a VR Headset and subscribed to sexlikereal via DEOVR player. It's way cheaper than punting,it's been working and it gets rid of my urges.

Bro, I'm a dummy with VR headsets but are they portable? Can you bring it to a punt? Cos if you can, you can try using it while you have an edging queen like Mimi of Burwood to edge you with her magic hands. That would be an awesome experience I reckon!

[keebab]

Bro, I'm a dummy with VR headsets but are they portable? Can you bring it to a punt? Cos if you can, you can try using it while you have an edging queen like Mimi of Burwood to edge you with her magic hands. That would be an awesome experience I reckon!

Yep the Oculus Quest systems are super portable and you can get a carry case the size of a shoebox to move around. You'd need Wifi or Hotspot to stream your porn to the device or some of the paid sites will let you download the media files to play offline. Personally, I like sites like this too - https://jav.guru/56633/kavr-027-vr-reverse-threesome-with-college-girls-who-molest-you-from-all-directions-in-an-intimate-formation-eimi-fukada-ai-hoshina/

With regards to services in a shop with a headset, there was a girl in Sydney who tried this as a service but it didn't last. My suspicion was that it was because of the novelty factor and the fact that whatever HJ/BJ action she's performing, it would never sync with the images in your field of view. It was also more expensive than the traditional R&T.

I'm sure if you brought a headset to Mimi she'd be fine with it.

I think VR porn is best enjoyed solo until the shared VR experience tech improves.

[frisson]

The key factors that affect the prices brothels and massage shops charge

1. Demand and supply. Prices would increase if the girls are getting more demand than they can supply in a given day, or else they sit around earning little.
2. Perception: where men "value" getting laid and become happy to pay a high price.
3. Market dysfunction: Why a woman who opens her legs and lets a guy fuck her for 30 minutes for more money than a female doctor makes in 2 hours after studying for many years

May I add to your list?
4. Rent increases for industrial property - brothels and massages shops generally pay rent for the premises
5. Price gouging. The service or cost hasn't changed, but inflation is used as an excuse to raise prices

[zylon]

Interesting thread. Surely the WL is the ultimate price setter. Shop sets a minimum that they take, the rest is the WL?

Punters are takers so the other side and don't really set anything. The question of when it is too expensive is another matter.

Sounds like from the responses it has already gotten too expensive given other cost increases.

[begov94]

May I add to your list?
4. Rent increases for industrial property - brothels and massages shops generally pay rent for the premises
5. Price gouging. The service or cost hasn't changed, but inflation is used as an excuse to raise prices

Back in the days the trend was to say that punting is cheaper than dating. These days I reckon dating is cheaper than punting LOL

[MDPorto]

Dating cheaper than punting...

Lets say a date involves a pre-drink, a meal, a movie (+ snacks) for two x people. Being ultra-conservative with my pricing and consumption expectations here - chicks, especially Asian chicks I've dated in recent years, love eating !

Drinks = $20 (basing this on house beer and wine which is on average $10 for the glass these days) [0.5 hour]

Meal = $60 (basing this on the price of a pub schnitzel which is up around the $30 mark these days) [1 hour]

Movie = $40 (basing this on the price of a regular day/evening movie ticket being $20) + Snacks = $30 (popcorn, a bag of chocolate/lollies, a drink - $15 per person) [2 hours]

Estimate Time = 3.5 hours

TOTAL = $150
*you could very easily spend another 50-100% on all of this (more expensive drinks & meals, restaurant, etc and/or more consumed + go to Gold Class movies if you're really looking to impress), or less if you're skipping parts of the above and on a budget
**when you're dating (whether it's one or several girls at a time), the vast majority wouldn't just be going out on one date per week - the costs will add up very quickly (and unlike punting you won't be as mindful towards this until well after the fact)
***YMMV in terms of the desired expectations/results you hope to achieve from dating (which I assume for the vast majority of us would be to get sex out of our date - and maybe eventually find a long term partner)

A friend of mine is a massive player, currently has 8 girls on the run (don't ask me how he does it as I don't really want to know) - based on conversations I've had with him and the calibre of restaurants, locations, activities, etc he does with his dates (not to mention the social expectations of certain females which is a whole other discussion in itself)... dating certainly is not cheaper than punting, at least from what I can see (not just from a monetary value but also your time). :shout:

[begov94]

$150 for 3 hours of mental foreplay, but if the foreplay goes right that's an overnight stayover with not just multiple cum but also cuddling each other naked and probably going another round in the morning.

Some sugarbabes are charging more than $150 just for that mental foreplay which doesn't include dinner, drinks and entertainment. Then you're gonna have to fork out additional costs for sex.

I've heard stories of lonely guys paying just for that mental foreplay aka date session without the sex because they value the connection more than the sex. The problem is, Sugarbabes are seeing multiple men each week whereas if it's a date with someone wanting marriage she's very likely to see only you and no one else.

Hence my opinion of dating cheaper than punting. At least it is when considering the price range for a punt these days compared to pre-COVID times. Some girls back then even advertised as low as $1,000 for an overnight session, and some reviews mention it feeling like dating at home where they're watching movies and eating dinner together between multiple sex.

[Sleazypeazy]

$150 for 3 hours of mental foreplay, but if the foreplay goes right that's an overnight stayover with not just multiple cum but also cuddling each other naked and probably going another round in the morning.

Some sugarbabes are charging more than $150 just for that mental foreplay which doesn't include dinner, drinks and entertainment. Then you're gonna have to fork out additional costs for sex.

I've heard stories of lonely guys paying just for that mental foreplay aka date session without the sex because they value the connection more than the sex. The problem is, Sugarbabes are seeing multiple men each week whereas if it's a date with someone wanting marriage she's very likely to see only you and no one else.

Hence my opinion of dating cheaper than punting. At least it is when considering the price range for a punt these days compared to pre-COVID times. Some girls back then even advertised as low as $1,000 for an overnight session, and some reviews mention it feeling like dating at home where they're watching movies and eating dinner together between multiple sex.

100% Besides when you are having sex with some girl you are dating, it is real GFE with unlimited shots on target. I don't think these options even compare

[begov94]

100% Besides when you are having sex with some girl you are dating, it is real GFE with unlimited shots on target. I don't think these options even compare

And definitely no excuses such as:

- Too big
- Lip kiss only
- No nipple play, too sensitive
- shower 10 mins before and after sex
- kicking you out 15mins early
- certain positions not allowed

When you're both dating, the bed is your canvas and you can experiment all you want.

[hereforgoodtime]

Can't really compare price of dating and punting unless it's the same kind of girls. There's just more variety of ML/WLs than the dating options available for the average dude.

Our best bet is to shop around and hope that there's newcomer shops that can upset the market, though that probably unlikely.

[andrewv]

May I add to your list?
4. Rent increases for industrial property - brothels and massages shops generally pay rent for the premises
5. Price gouging. The service or cost hasn't changed, but inflation is used as an excuse to raise prices

Good points. I managed to find an example on rent.
The old QVB Japanese massage place on level 1 of 199 Clarence St CBD (Now a Thai RNT called Blue Angel) pays a weekly rent of $690. Let's round it up to say $800 p.w. to allow for electricity and cleaning.

It has 3 massage rooms. Assuming each room gets used say only 4 hours a day, that would be 12 hours a day x 7 days = 84 paid massage hours a week.

$800 rent+expenses / 84 hours = $9.52 per hour. Round this up to $10 per hour room cost.

This amortised rent cost is pretty good, around 14% of revenue to the owner, before the remainder is split with the girls and before the girls make their $$$ for "extras".

[begov94]

Can't really compare price of dating and punting unless it's the same kind of girls. There's just more variety of ML/WLs than the dating options available for the average dude.

Our best bet is to shop around and hope that there's newcomer shops that can upset the market, though that probably unlikely.

I'm curious - how many guys in the "Chad" category (six pack, six foot tall, most likely six figure salary) do WLs and MLs get to meet at work on a regular basis?

In many shops, even the likes of 42G or N5M I happen to pass by punters in waiting rooms who mostly look like someone's dad or a rich young, average looking kid. The type that young girls at a mall are very unlikely to respond.

When talking to guys of the "Chad" category I often hear them talk about dating girls in their own circle of friends rather than talk to a random girl in public. And when they punt, they're more likely to hire a "high end" escort that charges almost a thousand dollars per hour. These "Chads" also rather cheat and sleep around.

Personally I find punting easier than looking for side chicks since I'm not good at whispering sweet nothings nor maintaining a roster of booty calls. I just don't like handling the baggage of bantering with multiple women and remembering every single details to keep them interested - having one girl to banter with all my whole life is more than enough.

Then again, the economics of punting these days just doesn't seem worth it. I'm pretty sure some "Chads" may prefer punting in major cheaper shops but because of how prominent they look it's easy to get caught by their own circle of friends or wives/gf friends.

[Sibon]

I'd rather spend the money being out under the sun in nature than for a movie subscription that gets boring unless they release new titles. There's many adventures to look out for that doesn't break the bank plus it is better for your health.

What can you do under the sun?

Hug a tree petending it's a plus-sized WL?

Sleep on the grass and daydreaming about the Thai WLs?

See two dragonflies with their tails sticking together?

You might as well stay in the safety of your home watching Gone With the Wind 10th times.

[begov94]

Good points. I managed to find an example on rent.
The old QVB Japanese massage place on level 1 of 199 Clarence St CBD (Now a Thai RNT called Blue Angel) pays a weekly rent of $690. Let's round it up to say $800 p.w. to allow for electricity and cleaning.

It has 3 massage rooms. Assuming each room gets used say only 4 hours a day, that would be 12 hours a day x 7 days = 84 paid massage hours a week.

$800 rent+expenses / 84 hours = $9.52 per hour. Round this up to $10 per hour room cost.

This amortised rent cost is pretty good, around 14% of revenue to the owner, before the remainder is split with the girls and before the girls make their $$$ for "extras".

This is why MLs gouging up the price for extras especially for $200-250 FS doesn't make sense.

By the way, went to Top Ryde shopping centre to do some grocery shop and realised that the massage shop at 2 Pope St is recently sold to developer. Not sure how long the shop have before they need to look for another location. I reckon they should've stayed at the old 190 Blaxland Rd location, that is now a barber shop and next door at 192 is another competitor massage shop.

[begov94]

What can you do under the sun?

Hug a tree petending it's a plus-sized WL?

Sleep on the grass and daydreaming about the Thai WLs?

See two dragonflies with their tails sticking together?

You might as well stay in the safety of your home watching Gone With the Wind 10th times.

Hahaha. If that's your kink go ahead.

[Sibon]

It took you a year to work out netflix is cheaper than a punt.

Explains everything

I think he said "......For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub..."

How much did you score for your International English Language Test?

[Sibon]

Hahaha. If that's your kink go ahead.

My kink is go fishing under the sun. :)

You may want to join me one day and bringing a Thai ML along.

[begov94]

I think he said "......For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub..."

How much did you score for your International English Language Test?

Wow, your first intelligent reply.

I always thought you're supposed to be sarcastic or just a little different.

Maybe you should ask him what is his second language? It could be Swahili.

[begov94]

My kink is go fishing under the sun. :)

You may want to join me one day and bringing a Thai ML along.

Yeah, I'll bring one and ask her to bring her gigantic pestle and mortar for making sour Thai salads. Any fish you caught she'll turn it into a meal on the spot.

[madness123]

This might sound a bit sad, but I invested in getting a VR Headset and subscribed to sexlikereal via DEOVR player. It's way cheaper than punting,it's been working and it gets rid of my urges.

And its fantastic, the more you seach, the better gear you will find

[GoldfishMan]

Yep the Oculus Quest systems are super portable and you can get a carry case the size of a shoebox to move around. You'd need Wifi or Hotspot to stream your porn to the device or some of the paid sites will let you download the media files to play offline. Personally, I like sites like this too - https://jav.guru/56633/kavr-027-vr-reverse-threesome-with-college-girls-who-molest-you-from-all-directions-in-an-intimate-formation-eimi-fukada-ai-hoshina/

With regards to services in a shop with a headset, there was a girl in Sydney who tried this as a service but it didn't last. My suspicion was that it was because of the novelty factor and the fact that whatever HJ/BJ action she's performing, it would never sync with the images in your field of view. It was also more expensive than the traditional R&T.

I'm sure if you brought a headset to Mimi she'd be fine with it.

I think VR porn is best enjoyed solo until the shared VR experience tech improves.

Lol good point, I didn't think about the "synching" part. Maybe what can be done is to play the same video running at the same time inside the VR headset, on a screen somewhere outside so the service provider can see what you're seeing and act accordingly.

[GoldfishMan]

Dating cheaper than punting...

Estimate Time = 3.5 hours

TOTAL = $150
*you could very easily spend another 50-100% on all of this (more expensive drinks & meals, restaurant, etc and/or more consumed + go to Gold Class movies if you're really looking to impress), or less if you're skipping parts of the above and on a budget
**when you're dating (whether it's one or several girls at a time), the vast majority wouldn't just be going out on one date per week - the costs will add up very quickly (and unlike punting you won't be as mindful towards this until well after the fact)
***YMMV in terms of the desired expectations/results you hope to achieve from dating (which I assume for the vast majority of us would be to get sex out of our date - and maybe eventually find a long term partner)

A friend of mine is a massive player, currently has 8 girls on the run (don't ask me how he does it as I don't really want to know) - based on conversations I've had with him and the calibre of restaurants, locations, activities, etc he does with his dates (not to mention the social expectations of certain females which is a whole other discussion in itself)... dating certainly is not cheaper than punting, at least from what I can see (not just from a monetary value but also your time). :shout:

Totally disagree with that comparo. So many ways I can knock this down. I can go at it from the angle of how much it would cost for a 3.5 hour punt. Not to mention, I'm getting 3.5 hours of being out and doing things that get my blood pumping with the girl that I lust for, not cooped up in a darkened room with nothing but a shower cubicle and a bed.

Being with a girl that you totally have the hots for, dating, being physically together even in public, brings out the most intense feelings. I could be walking around hand in hand with her in shopping malls and be nursing a 100% erection simply from doing that. It's most intense during the early stages when I haven't slept with her yet. One girl that I targetted from the window of the shop she was working at, I had such intense feelings of lust for her that I'm pretty sure I had mini orgasms simply from the physical closeness I had with her during dates as I got closer to bedding her.

[suka03]

rather than spending 300-500 a week. best to save it up for a month and fly to asia. cheaper, better service and more punts

[begov94]

rather than spending 300-500 a week. best to save it up for a month and fly to asia. cheaper, better service and more punts

And probably STIs as well. Back when I was living in Malaysia there were many illegal joints and private agencies but I didn't bother as:

1- I don't have the money (I was a bum and a breadwinner back then)
2- It was easier to get a gf there

Singapore Geylang might be safer and cheaper than Sydney. Then again, you never know what you might catch as the girls are from all over Asia as well.