Mia - AVOID

[Ralph-Lauren]

Sometimes when we go see a ML/WL and the session doesn’t click as we don’t really match, we think of it as a dud punt and move on, with Mia however she should not be in this industry and is a waste of time and money.

When she first entered the room, I tried to give her a hug to say hello, she swatted me away and said to go strip.
As I strip I take off my underwear too and she’s shocked asking why did I do that? And so I respond by asking her if I should put them back on, answer was no, so why the shock then?

Having a look at her she’s tall, probably 170 or so, and mid to late 20s is my guess, not slim as in the photos, however not fat but just naturally a bigger build, body isn’t toned and has a little bit of belly. Boobs are probably B only and definitely not D as advertised.

Onto the massage table she gives a massage which is more just pressing on my body, and then when between my legs she gives a bit of a tug and starts to ask what extras I want and told me to turn over.

As she’s standing on the side of the table I sit up and give her a hug and this time she’s ok, so tried to opt for nude HJ $50 and she says ok, so I start to feel her body and then slide my hand under her shirt, she quickly pulled back and said no no touching, if you want to touch my skin it’s $100 total. At this point I’m like wtf? She clarified for $50 she will strip and give me a HJ but no touching anywhere. She then suggests FS and I can touch and kiss everywhere, but for $200 no BJ either.

At this point I’ve given up, and also lose my hardness so I say don’t worry forget about it.
As I got up to get dressed she said she still have a lot of time (booked 30 mins, it was about 15mins or so at this point) and I said it’s fine I don’t mind just leaving now. But she didn’t let me leave saying the mamasan will get angry and just let her massage me.

So I lie back down and let her push around again, all the while she’s complaining about $200 not being much because she’s a young tall girl and people would pay for $3000 for an overnight. So I politely suggested that she should do that instead to which she responds of course! I get that almost every night if I wanted, just doing this as I have nothing to do in the day.

In the end time was up and I got to get out of there. Absolutely a waste of time and money to see her and her bad attitude would not be returning for sure.

[VT25]

Sorry to hear that Bro. The next girl will/must be better I am sure. Thank you and Keep happy punting!

[Sibon]

..... because she’s a young tall girl and people would pay for $3000 for an overnight.


Obviously she has got the wrong customer. :)

[woods23]

Can this be a different story-

Something doesn't add up .You might be way too touchy at the beginning?. you want to play right away?...maybe try to touch her boobs? or what worse her pussy? , who knows ? Her reaction is way too much if you just give a friendly hug?

Then you sit up again nd touch her "under her shirt" Seriously !! After she swatt you at the beginning? You're a brave guy ! It doesn't make sense at all !

[Ralph-Lauren]

Can this be a different story-

Something doesn't add up .You might be way too touchy at the beginning?. you want to play right away?...maybe try to touch her boobs? or what worse her pussy? , who knows ? Her reaction is way too much if you just give a friendly hug?

Then you sit up again nd touch her "under her shirt" Seriously !! After she swatt you at the beginning? You're a brave guy ! It doesn't make sense at all !

Started literally trying to give a friendly hug around her shoulders, wasn’t even aimed around her waist and I was still fully clothed, so no it wasn’t me being too touchy to start.

I started touching her after we agreed for $50 NHJ, I don’t see an issue there? It wasn’t like I just went for it without any agreement on services, or are you saying you have never done that in your years of punting?

Maybe you should go try her.

[woods23]

are you saying you have never done that in your years of punting?

Maybe you should go try her.


After she swatted me-
No, no way i do that. I will behaved myself and stay on the table nd see how things picking up before I make I rush in.
Second visit is a different story. I be all over her at the beginning!

Ok, I will go in. Firstly , she have a pretty face?( you have covered everything else but her face). If yes, then I will go in and fck her then report back.

I'm have never been the one who afraid to try new girl with a bad attitude or not. As long as you're respectful/ polite i rarely get a dud punt.

[Ralph-Lauren]

She was allowing me to touch her body both ass and tits over her clothes, and then we agreed for NHJ, don’t know how much more you’d have to wait to see how things pick up..

Her face is average, not pretty but not ugly

[woods23]

She was allowing me to touch her body both ass and tits over her clothes, and then we agreed for NHJ, don’t know how much more you’d have to wait to see how things pick up..

Her face is average, not pretty but not ugly

Ahhh. After what happened !! What about at least wait till she get naked first??

[corner_king]

I also have bad experience with Mia, not allow to touch anywhere , I tied to put hand on her waist and she push away . refused take off clothes . And I left 25 minutes from a 45 min booking , she insist me to stay for massage only until 45 min finish

Reception change girl for me to finish off the 45 min booking .

First time I experienced this , maybe she is new or what . I am surprise she offer FS .

[PervySage]

Her photo on wechat was pretty generic, could be any random person but did look tall and slim so got my interest 🤣

Odd for someone to offer FS, but be a bit of a princess. Gotta see this just to tick her off hah.

[fted]

Having a look at her she’s tall, probably 170 or so, and mid to late 20s is my guess, not slim as in the photos, however not fat but just naturally a bigger build, body isn’t toned and has a little bit of belly. Boobs are probably B only and definitely not D as advertised.

So she hasn't got a "super pretty face and model body" as described on Wechat? I'm shocked.

Thanks for reporting back on this one.

[woods23]

I also have bad experience with Mia, not allow to touch anywhere , I tied to put hand on her waist and she push away . refused take off clothes . And I left 25 minutes from a 45 min booking , she insist me to stay for massage only until 45 min finish

Reception change girl for me to finish off the 45 min booking .

First time I experienced this , maybe she is new or what . I am surprise she offer FS .

"Refused take clothes off"
Sounds like she there for the big money. Charged more than standard for NHJ?

How you rate her face to 10 ?

I also tried Ginza Miki two times in 2018...she was pretty good. How you rate Miki face?

She's on today !! Need more confirmation if" pretty face " then I will try go in today!

[11Bravo]

Started literally trying to give a friendly hug around her shoulders, wasn’t even aimed around her waist and I was still fully clothed, so no it wasn’t me being too touchy to start.
To her, and to me, it was... it's not a brothel, it's RnT. Myself, I NEVER touch without permission, and on a first visit, I let her get along with the massage before I get handsy in ANY form.


As she’s standing on the side of the table I sit up and give her a hug and this time she’s ok, so tried to opt for nude HJ $50 and she says ok, so I start to feel her body and then slide my hand under her shirt, she quickly pulled back and said no no touching, if you want to touch my skin it’s $100 total.Let's see... you agreed on a NHJ... You ASSUMED that included touching, she obviously didn't, especially since you started reaching under her shirt... Like I said, it's RnT, not a brothel. It reeks of disrespect... Plus, you assumed that your "all of 30 minutes" plus $50 extra entitled you to go where you wanted... sounds to me, especially given her comments, she wasn't in the mood for an entitled Cheap Charlie.


I started touching her after we agreed for $50 NHJ, I don’t see an issue there? It wasn’t like I just went for it without any agreement on services, or are you saying you have never done that in your years of punting? Like I said, the agreement was NHJ, where was there an agreement on touching? Because you wanted it? You had 2 strikes already, the hug and the reach... Easy for the umpire to call striiiiiike three, you're OUTTTTTT...

For myself, I'm not a mind reader, but attitude and temperature can tell you a LOT if you know how to listen... I NEVER just go blazing my own path when there are TWO PEOPLE in the room... And you know what they about assume: it makes an ass out of u and me.

No sympathy from me.


Can this be a different story-

Something doesn't add up .You might be way too touchy at the beginning?. you want to play right away?...maybe try to touch her boobs? or what worse her pussy? , who knows ? Her reaction is way too much if you just give a friendly hug?

Then you sit up again nd touch her "under her shirt" Seriously !! After she swatt you at the beginning? You're a brave guy ! It doesn't make sense at all !
Have to agree with you woods23, it's NOT a brothel. Sounds to me more of a case of entitlement gone awry... Really sounds like, even with the haute couture handle, he didn't know how to read a room.

[woods23]

To her, and to me, it was... it's not a brothel, it's RnT. Myself, I NEVER touch without permission, and on a first visit, I let her get along with the massage before I get handsy in ANY form.

Let's see... you agreed on a NHJ... You ASSUMED that included touching, she obviously didn't, especially since you started reaching under her shirt... Like I said, it's RnT, not a brothel. It reeks of disrespect... Plus, you assumed that your "all of 30 minutes" plus $50 extra entitled you to go where you wanted... sounds to me, especially given her comments, she wasn't in the mood for an entitled Cheap Charlie.

Like I said, the agreement was NHJ, where was there an agreement on touching? Because you wanted it? You had 2 strikes already, the hug and the reach... Easy for the umpire to call striiiiiike three, you're OUTTTTTT...

For myself, I'm not a mind reader, but attitude and temperature can tell you a LOT if you know how to listen... I NEVER just go blazing my own path when there are TWO PEOPLE in the room... And you know what they about assume: it makes an ass out of u and me.

No sympathy from me.


Have to agree with you woods23, it's NOT a brothel. Sounds to me more of a case of entitlement gone awry... Really sounds like, even with the haute couture handle, he didn't know how to read a room.

Bravo bravo bravo well said. Every thing is spot on. A man with lots of experience! That's why rnt is more exciting and more fun . If you play your game right many doors will open, no matter what type of girl.

[11Bravo]

Bravo bravo bravo well said. Every thing is spot on. A man with lots of experience! That's why rnt is more exciting and more fun . If you play your game right many doors will open, no matter what type of girl.Thanks. After I posted, I did a quick vet of Ralphie, lot of questions, lot of comments, very little in helpful intel, at least of the kind I'd find useful. No problem, free forum, but given the sum total, I'd say "sour grapes".

It's a business; yes, she might be a WL, a ML, but just because you pay does NOT give you free rein. MY experience, showing some respect goes a LONG way... kâo-jai?

[Ralph-Lauren]

Thanks. After I posted, I did a quick vet of Ralphie, lot of questions, lot of comments, very little in helpful intel, at least of the kind I'd find useful. No problem, free forum, but given the sum total, I'd say "sour grapes".

It's a business; yes, she might be a WL, a ML, but just because you pay does NOT give you free rein. MY experience, showing some respect goes a LONG way... kâo-jai?

So to you only any accounts here that have posted many many reviews are allowed to post a negative one otherwise they are just “sour grapes” then, not really an open forum if it works like that is it?

Why don’t you go and try her? Given how you like to strip and lie on the massage table, and how Mia gets shocked at seeing a stripped naked man, I’d say she would see you as disrespectful as well. Don’t ASSUME you can just go naked and lie on the table to wait - your $50 on the table at the start of a session won’t get you very far, she would also find this disrespectful.

[Ralph-Lauren]

"Refused take clothes off"
Sounds like she there for the big money. Charged more than standard for NHJ?

How you rate her face to 10 ?

I also tried Ginza Miki two times in 2018...she was pretty good. How you rate Miki face?

She's on today !! Need more confirmation if" pretty face " then I will try go in today!

Pretty face is subjective, just go give her a try and let us know how you went please

[robinho]

YMMV, generally at these places, they are younger, sometimes more pretty, but they charge for every action with "plenty" of restrictions. If you're looking for full service I suggest going to a brothel..because for the price they ask you IMO it aint worth it.

Sometimes you do find that ML you click with is more accommodating, but if she is sensitive to any moves then let that be a warning!

[woods23]

Pretty face is subjective, just go give her a try and let us know how you went please

All good.
No other confirmation for Mia. I going to see Ally at 200 stanmore her photo is too good not to try. Plus need a good massage anyway.

[woods23]

All good.
No other confirmation for Mia. I going to see Ally at 200 stanmore her photo is too good not to try. Plus need a good massage anyway.

Forget about Mia !!

Fck me. Ally , can she get any hotter? Maybe not. She is hotter than fire once naked....huge boobs fake but very well done job...feel like real nd that's very rare for a thai as they are all hard . Tight cuvry very sexy body. Up there with shara . She can also do a hard massage too. Not greedy, i give her top mark..highly recommended if you are in Thai with dark skin...she's there till 8pm ! Don't miss out

Add her to my regular list for sure.

[down2fish]

I’ve been eyeing Mia on the 41/227 roster for the past week or so. Idk why but this AR just convinced me that I’ve gotta go try her out. Hopefully my stars align this week and I’ll report back.

[sukeong]

So she hasn't got a "super pretty face and model body" as described on Wechat? I'm shocked.

Thanks for reporting back on this one.

While this shop is generally good and have some nice girls, but like other shops I would not trust their ads description completely, I remember going to see one of their girl once described as from tw and very pretty/beautiful etc. but upon meeting her she is neither from tw (she is Malaysian) or beautiful. rather she looks below average and quite chubby. Even though I like Malaysian Chinese that was definitely a dud experience

[11Bravo]

So to you only any accounts here that have posted many many reviews are allowed to post a negative one otherwise they are just “sour grapes” then, not really an open forum if it works like that is it?It's just that balance provides perspective for the reader, and when one of the (I'm guessing) few AR's is when you're all hot and bothered (NOT in the good sense), it does, FOR ME, cast some doubt on your perspective at the moment. I don't doubt that YOU had a bad time, but to imply ALL will... maybe so, maybe not. My comments were basically what NOT to do, or at least what I don't do.


Why don’t you go and try her? Given how you like to strip and lie on the massage table, and how Mia gets shocked at seeing a stripped naked man, I’d say she would see you as disrespectful as well. Don’t ASSUME you can just go naked and lie on the table to wait - your $50 on the table at the start of a session won’t get you very far, she would also find this disrespectful.Why don't I visit her? Because it'd be like bringing papaya pok pok TO Thailand. Decades of enjoying BKK, I have my favs THERE, and given the YEARS that I've known them, other THAIS just can't compete. Likewise, there are certain establishments (sadly a number history now) that I just can't see a SYD massage shop competing with. So, in SYD, I enjoy the variety of cuisines available, some Chinese hot pot, Malaysian satay, Vietnamese pho, Japanese sushi, Indian curry, even had a Greek salad... so no room for any pad thai. And those dining experiences were reported to provide perspective to each.

But feel free to continue with your informal mo and I'll continue with my more formal one. But if you ever do get to BKK, MTW is definitely worth the visit... well, at least for some. And there, no coat and tie required...

[Ralph-Lauren]

The f*** you on about Bravo?
Rambling on about Thai, Mia is Chinese you idiot. So you can try her “Chinese hot pot” and report back.

[11Bravo]

Boobs are probably B only and definitely not D as advertised.

The f*** you on about Bravo?
Rambling on about Thai, Mia is Chinese you idiot. So you can try her “Chinese hot pot” and report back.Ralphie, here I sit, chastised by your post because I'm not too proud to admit a mistake. Somehow I took it that Mia was Thai, don't know why, because on reading your original bombast, I now see you never mentioned her nationality. You did say she was advertised as "D", but their WeChat has her labeled as a "C", at least as of today, so maybe they did read your review and modified the description.

But, like Thais, I'm overrun by PRC's (well, with 1.5 billion, they do seem to be everywhere). Still, this week, I did see 2 PRC's, both with large dumplings (I'd say buns but that would be the wrong direction); 1 Papaya Pok Pok (and those were rather large Papaya's); with some curry for variety (damn, I do like SYD). Was going to see my #1 regular today, PRC, but hit with the dreaded fundus depletus so had to pass. Also got a message from another PRC she had some time today, but an ATM run would have to wait.

Full disclosure: for Monday's PRC, I did hug her, but that was only returning her hug on seeing me AGAIN. Likewise, during the massage, I did grope her ass, but that was only because, to stand as close as possible to the table, she had nicely moved my hands off the massage table and placed them around her ass while she did my shoulders. And I didn't need to reach under her shirt because sometime (trouble with laying face down, and with bad ears, you miss certain events), she had pulled her top down, so moved my hands to her rack for additional support for her masses while bent over (with some, you just do have to admire the load a bra has to carry and distribute).

I also hugged yesterday's PRC, but again, she hugged me first, New Year's greeting from a LT regular. I was a bit hesitant because she was DECKED out, fancy date decked out. She said it was to greet me for the New Year, and of course I believed her. I did feel a bit bad because, given the humidity yesterday, the a/c just couldn't handle it, and it was not just her hot pot that was hot and sweaty. But someone like her always cleans up so nice... Me, not so much, and I did look a bit bedraggled on my exit. Maybe that's why I had a whole row on the train all to myself...

Notice that both of these were knowns with guidelines established. The two new girls, I didn't touch, plenty of opportunity, until I had permission. Yes, I'm OLD school, but I take nothing for granted. And I also engage in some VERBAL chit-chat to ease the introductions. Always get a kick with a Thai, dropping in some BKK references, a Thai word or phrase here and there, to see how long it takes for her to pick up on I'm familiar with the country. With PRC's, I use my fluent Mandarin, all of 10 words, 5 of which they understand outright, the other 5, because I just can't get the TONE right, I have to explain. But it does go a LONG way in relaxing any tension, along with talking about traveling in China.

As to Mia, she doesn't fit MY demographic, age and experience, because I don't have the time. HELPFUL HINT: For any residents, a piece of advice: if you can meet a newbie, new to the job, before she develops a shell, be kind, patient, understanding. It can reap great benefits for you in the future because she'll always remember you, in the good sense. Personal experience. YMMV.

[Backdraft69]

[QUOTE=Ralph-Lauren;2915264]Started literally trying to give a friendly hug around her shoulders, wasn’t even aimed around her waist and I was still fully clothed, so no it wasn’t me being too touchy to start.


I always hug the first time while we both are naked.
From there on you can hug with clothes on. :)

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[paulgallen]

There aren't too many ML that does not allow touching, she must one of those. I be avoiding her for sure. Respect that some do not allow touching, thats her way of doing business good luck to her

[woods23]

This really depends what kind of shop u go to and what type of girls as well. ...a shop is known for greats services, girls are very open minded, and older girls. Is she pretty and young.

For me I rarely or never hug a girl on the first visit...unless she come in with a big smile or her eyes lit up with happiness or just stand there !..that's different story.

I Rarely touch a girl while she massage me , i always keepsmy hands to myself( what's the rush?) ...unless she gives you a signal.

Like Bravo said " is not a brothel " for extras you have to earn it in a respectful ways.

Even if Mia acts like that...just find another way in, to cool her down makes her relaxed first, be comfortable with you. Always do 45min rnt, plentiful time not too short not to long , just right !

[Ralph-Lauren]

Somehow I took it that Mia was Thai, don't know why, because on reading your original bombast, I now see you never mentioned her nationality.

Looks like you ASSUMED which is something you said you don’t do so…
Anyway can’t be bothered to read the rest of your rant it’s just excuses on not going to see her, and yet you still try to back her in being decent if you give respect etc etc.

[Ralph-Lauren]

Even if Mia acts like that...just find another way in, to cool her down makes her relaxed first, be comfortable with you. Always do 45min rnt, plentiful time not too short not to long , just right !

Still waiting for you to go visit her mate, but so far just seen your excuses also to not going, must not be confident in getting good experience from her also?

[woods23]

Still waiting for you to go visit her mate, but so far just seen your excuses also to not going, must not be confident in getting good experience from her also?

Me scared? hahaha, I'm more scared if she not
Pretty!!! you dont know me. I have never been the one to be afraid, with any girls....You have no idea what girl I had tried with even though she's super kps. I still go in as long, she is pretty. The worse the AR the better, it mean the reward is bigger. Like I said " if she pretty I'm in"

If I get bad experiences so be it. No big deal. It's a punt I will move on nd give another crack with different girls

[dace_t2000]

I saw Mia this week. Agree that the photo is a bit deceptive, she even confirmed it when I saw her. But she is cute, weird and funny. I didn't have any issues connecting with her to get the services I needed - she was hestiant at first and asked questions that you wouldnt normally get in a first encounter which i found hilarious! As some of the boys have said, it is ymmv but you can charm your way into things..sometimes it's the journey and not the destination that adds value in the end!

Now I could use some intel on Caren, Mina, Marie, Riko and Rara? Happy to take PMs.

[11Bravo]

For me I rarely or never hug a girl on the first visit...unless she come in with a big smile or her eyes lit up with happiness or just stand there !..that's different story.

I Rarely touch a girl while she massage me , i always keeps my hands to myself( what's the rush?) ...unless she gives you a signal.

Always do 45min rnt, plentiful time not too short not to long , just right !2 out of 3.

+ First visit, I never hug.

+ I always keep my hands to myself during the massage, especially if it's a good one (and even on subsequent visits). Why interrupt those nice sensations when there MIGHT be better to follow... I appreciate the benefits of RnT. Exception: if she initiates...

- I always book an hour at an RnT, the price difference from 45 minutes is not that great, $10-$20, and I like symmetry, 30 minutes for the massage, 30 minutes for the getting to know you time. And I always appreciate on a repeat visit when she adjusts the timing...

With experience comes knowledge, you can pick your targets with greater success. Worst case, I just don't go back because now I KNOW HER experience with ME. Whining not necessary.


Looks like you ASSUMED which is something you said you don’t do so…
Anyway can’t be bothered to read the rest of your rant it’s just excuses on not going to see her, and yet you still try to back her in being decent if you give respect etc etc.Assume - I NEVER do in the room, but sometimes my reading comprehension fills in blanks... guilty as charged.

You say excuses, I say Sgt Friday, "just the facts...", interpretations vary... My time is limited so I use mine to MY best advantage.


If I get bad experiences so be it. No big deal. It's a punt I will move on nd give another crack with different girlsYou're a better man than I. I wail at the moon, gnash my teeth, rend my clothes, wear sack cloth for a week - or maybe I've just been watching too many Korean dramas...

Seriously, I'm always cautious about generalizing a bad experience unless it's a true rip-off, don't want to break anyone's rice bowl just because she did not meet MY expectations. I have posted when 60 minutes turns out to be 45, but still, if she's delivered what was agreed to, to me, that's not a full rip-off. A rip-off is LT becomes ST (not really an issue in OZ) when I've paid before (and one reason I always pay after).

[NC3]

I saw Mia this week. Agree that the photo is a bit deceptive, she even confirmed it when I saw her. But she is cute, weird and funny. I didn't have any issues connecting with her to get the services I needed - she was hestiant at first and asked questions that you wouldnt normally get in a first encounter which i found hilarious! As some of the boys have said, it is ymmv but you can charm your way into things..sometimes it's the journey and not the destination that adds value in the end!

Now I could use some intel on Caren, Mina, Marie, Riko and Rara? Happy to take PMs.

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