Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or going to get massage parlour is viewed with

[dhall]

Thoughts?


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[dhall]

Sorry what I meant was :

Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or visiting a massage parlour is viewed with stigma by a lot of people?


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[andrewv]

One possible answer is to ask, “are you OK telling your work colleagues, family members, your own wife/partner and friends that you are spending $$$ going to RnT and brothels?”

[dhall]

One possible answer is to ask, “are you OK telling your work colleagues, family members, your own wife/partner and friends that you are spending $$$ going to RnT and brothels?”

I’m on board with you are saying.

Funny story is when I was much younger and was working in a medium sized firm and sometimes I had to stay back late and work with a couple of the firms partners. One day one of the partners suggested if we would like to blow of some steam after a late night. I was young and single and had nothing much to do so I just tagged along. Little did I know blowing off some steam was visiting a higher end brothel. Was told to choose anyone I wanted and have a good time. Went out at least 5 times for these blow off steam sessions. Couldn’t really believe my luck. But back to your point, during work hours nothing was ever mentioned or discussed and it got weirder when the partners missus or kids dropped in for a visit. To be young again.


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[aussiegaigin]

Sorry what I meant was :

Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or visiting a massage parlour is viewed with stigma by a lot of people?



If you were you wouldn't go.

[Asiandaddy]

Personally I'm not bothered. Among society I would never admittedly say I visit such establishments and deny as most punters would do.

Now a select few individuals in my circle are aware of my habits and also are into the activities. I don't loose sleep knowing that church goers, committed fathers, uncles and grandfather's are as much committed to their faith and their families. Yet still go to release their stress, escape reality, or just downright enjoy. That's just human

[BigPedro666]

It's a modern world they are just selling something, just like the rest of us.

[faruk]

One possible answer is to ask, “are you OK telling your work colleagues, family members, your own wife/partner and friends that you are spending $$$ going to RnT and brothels?”

I think they're separate questions. The OP is basically asking if you can justify a punt to yourself despite the stigma attached. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.

Your question relates more to the stigma attached. No one in the right mind openly tells colleaguea and family about their punting.

[Axeman123]

In some moments and some situations I feel as though I'm a little (lot) pathetic. Does it stop me though. NOPE. I can live with that.

[Double_Adapter]

Troubled, No
Perturbed, No
Disturbed, No

Having a 'don't give a fuck' attitude does help.
When you start thinking and fretting about what others will say or think, then you become a slave to your conscience and to those fuckers - you can fuck that stigma and mindset!

It's better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
So if you can't walk in to a brothel or RnT shop like you fucken own the joint then you shouldn't be in this game.

[someguy88]

In some moments and some situations I feel as though I'm a little (lot) pathetic. Does it stop me though. NOPE. I can live with that.

Nah mate, don't feel pathetic, your paying for a service.
It's your own business, if anyone asks, just deny and if they have concrete proof either deny more or just own it. It's not illegal, you've done nothing wrong (assuming your single).

And when you do go out on a date with someone it's more about the person rather than trying to score some action.

[Axeman123]

Nah mate, don't feel pathetic, your paying for a service.
It's your own business, if anyone asks, just deny and if they have concrete proof either deny more or just own it. It's not illegal, you've done nothing wrong (assuming your single).

And when you do go out on a date with someone it's more about the person rather than trying to score some action. It's more about the times when I'm in an act with somebody that I really couldn't imagine myself being with any other time. The times when I really haven't wanted to go to a brothel but did anyway, Im sure that rings a bell with some others here too. Fortunately for me I've learnt to separate fact from fiction n derive a lot from punting.

[someguy88]

It's more about the times when I'm in an act with somebody that I really couldn't imagine myself being with any other time. The times when I really haven't wanted to go to a brothel but did anyway, Im sure that rings a bell with some others here too. Fortunately for me I've learnt to separate fact from fiction n derive a lot from punting.

As in with a WL/ML, that was not quite what you wanted?
Bad luck I guess, if you buy a coffee which turns out like shit, chances are you just drink it and move on, maybe not go back to the same coffee shop.

[rooter]

Punting is nothing to brag about and nothing to be ashamed about.
It's just what we do.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Didn’t discover punting until my early 30s. I wished I had done it in my 20s when I was going through significant dry spells (12 months and more) and it materially impacted my self esteem and ability to even just converse or approach women. It’s a great avenue to get the monkey off your back.

Having said that, the amount I think about punting now id probably be in debt had I picked this up in my earlier years lol

[1inchguy]

Massage parlours not many would actually know what's going inside. They would think it's just a massage
Whereas brothels the general thinking is would be unsafe and std etc.
However I once had a friend who acts high and mighty that paying girls for sex are losers.

[Spanky69]

Even walking out of legit massage shops I’ve been given the evil eye by some women in the street. I’m thinking “fuck you, I bet your husband/lover/partner doesn’t give you good sex” so mind your own business. It’s not even a RnT shop.

I look them right back in the eye and return their vibe. I’m the type of guy who says what I think. Next time they’ll hear it.

[schloong]

Troubled, No
Perturbed, No
Disturbed, No

Having a 'don't give a fuck' attitude does help.
When you start thinking and fretting about what others will say or think, then you become a slave to your conscience and to those fuckers - you can fuck that stigma and mindset!

It's better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
So if you can't walk in to a brothel or RnT shop like you fucken own the joint then you shouldn't be in this game.

Spot on Bro! I'm well & truely in the "don't give a fuck" camp...

[GoldfishMan]

Sorry what I meant was :

Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or visiting a massage parlour is viewed with stigma by a lot of people?


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I think the only person that you can be 100% sure views it with stigma is yourself. Everybody else, you're just projecting what you think on them and assuming they would feel the same. You didn't go ask them what they thought about punting, did you?

It's one of those things that you can never be sure of, and because of that you just don't let it all hang out.

[Timeis629]

I thought it was a private matter of choice - like everything in life you have to there ie it’s your life - if you share it jealousy from the guys that don’t do it kick in - and any women resents you because you have the guts to pay someone for services you probably won’t get anywhere else for a very cheaper price that a permanent relationship regardless of status partner or spouse etc
If it had “stigma” then that is very much a guilt complex associated with Freuds on the anal - hahahsh

[massage addict]

It's a modern world they are just selling something, just like the rest of us.

couldn't be further from the truth..... There is absolutely nothing modern about it, it is after all the worlds oldest profession!

[massage addict]

Even walking out of legit massage shops I’ve been given the evil eye by some women in the street. I’m thinking “fuck you, I bet your husband/lover/partner doesn’t give you good sex” so mind your own business. It’s not even a RnT shop.

I look them right back in the eye and return their vibe. I’m the type of guy who says what I think. Next time they’ll hear it.

Its not the husbands fault he doesn't give her good sex anymore... thats entirely on her for the lack of putting out over the years! only so much rejection a man can take before he stops giving a fuck

[Climax598]

Even walking out of legit massage shops I’ve been given the evil eye by some women in the street. I’m thinking “fuck you, I bet your husband/lover/partner doesn’t give you good sex” so mind your own business. It’s not even a RnT shop.

I look them right back in the eye and return their vibe. I’m the type of guy who says what I think. Next time they’ll hear it.
I m sure the evil eye women wouldn't know a legit massage shops or RnT shops to them all the same sex shops. Most evil eye women would have close their legs a long time ago.

[andrewv]

Imagine if women had RnT and brothels to go to.
What would men like us think and feel to learn that our wives and girlfriends are paying to have sex with men that fuck them and management daily.

[Double_Adapter]

Imagine if women had RnT and brothels to go to.
What would men like us think and feel to learn that our wives and girlfriends are paying to have sex with men that fuck them and management daily.

You make a valid point and call me an idealist, but I strongly believe 99% of men would think
- Am I not satisfying her in bed?
- Am I not providing her with DATY and rimming on tap?
- Am I not giving her multiple O's on a weekly basis
- Is my body and physique out of shape?

Then, the 99% of men would strive to meet and exceed the aforementioned shortcomings.

[GoldfishMan]

That evil eye is one of envy. They're envious of the ML who got a good fuck from you cos they can't get a good fuck sticking to their prudish rules. You ought to be proud of it!

[ColesBag]

Thoughts?


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Secrets make life more pleasurable.

You all have this overwhelming desire to share every single second of your mundane lives with every single person on Earth.

Go on, get on your electronic baby rattle with your shit social media apps & tell everyone that you fuck women for money. I dare you.

Or you could just be an adult & keep secrets.

I leave it up to you.

[CharlieM]

I don't think punting is something you wanna brag about. Any obese, ugly, old Punter with absolutely no charm or personality and 90 bucks in his pocket can score a punt.
And there lies the truth behind the punting stigma.
Most punters are viewed as desperate dudes who are incapable of having sex with a woman unless they are paying for it.

[andrewv]

I don't think punting is something you wanna brag about. Any obese, ugly, old Punter with absolutely no charm or personality and 90 bucks in his pocket can score a punt.
And there lies the truth behind the punting stigma.
Most punters are viewed as desperate dudes who are incapable of having sex with a woman unless they are paying for it.

Close to the truth.

[Spanky69]

I don't think punting is something you wanna brag about. Any obese, ugly, old Punter with absolutely no charm or personality and 90 bucks in his pocket can score a punt.
And there lies the truth behind the punting stigma.
Most punters are viewed as desperate dudes who are incapable of having sex with a woman unless they are paying for it.

Yep and it’s an industry which is thousands of years old and still going though.



Imagine if women had RnT and brothels to go to.
What would men like us think and feel to learn that our wives and girlfriends are paying to have sex with men that fuck them and management daily.

I’d say great. Perhaps they’ll develop a better attitude towards a lot of things. Pleasing their partner. Getting in shape. Dressing sexy. Not having a headache. Keeping the house clean. Doing their fair share. But it’ll never happen.

Let’s be real, the govt stats say men make more money. They’ve got the disposable income to squander. Until women get a pay upgrade there will be no sex industry for female punters.

From a male sex workers perspective, could you imagine having to please some of those women? Yuk.

[schloong]

What we do with our own money is nobody else's business!!

[sukeong]

Sorry what I meant was :

Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or visiting a massage parlour is viewed with stigma by a lot of people?


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Errr, most people here think cheating on their spouse is not a big deal. This really isn’t the place to ask.

[andrewv]

Let’s be real; the govt stats say men make more money. They’ve got the disposable income to squander. Until women get a pay upgrade there will be no sex industry for female punters.

From a male sex worker's perspective, could you imagine having to please some of those women? Yuk.

Alas, you should hear what working ladies/masseuses say about us male punters. They use the "Yuk" word, and much worse. They're often not impressed with the men lying face down and trying to charm them under the guise of building rapport to get special privileges or GFE.... In their "thought bubble" these women are thinking "Hurry up and get your rocks off so I can move to the next wanker and make more money."

We punters tend to overestimate how prostitutes perceive us. Our egos are divoced from the reality of the business transaction.

[Dukeduker222]

Alas, you should hear what working ladies/masseuses say about us male punters. They use the "Yuk" word, and much worse. They're often not impressed with the men lying face down and trying to charm them under the guise of building rapport to get special privileges or GFE.... In their "thought bubble" these women are thinking "Hurry up and get your rocks off so I can move to the next wanker and make more money."

We punters tend to overestimate how prostitutes perceive us. Our egos are divoced from the reality of the business transaction.

A mechanic doesn’t get excited because they get to work on yet another 2007 Camry, however, the day they get to work on a Porsche or Ferrari I bet they’re thrilled as fuck.

Try and make your experiences more unique and special, and maybe they’ll actually care/remember you. That includes working on your physical presentation.

[ColesBag]

A mechanic doesn’t get excited because they get to work on yet another 2007 Camry, however, the day they get to work on a Porsche or Ferrari I bet they’re thrilled as fuck.

Try and make your experiences more unique and special, and maybe they’ll actually care/remember you. That includes working on your physical presentation.

As the owner of a Ford Falcon the car metaphor made me giggle.

[andrewv]

A mechanic doesn’t get excited because they get to work on yet another 2007 Camry, however, the day they get to work on a Porsche or Ferrari I bet they’re thrilled as fuck.

Try and make your experiences more unique and special, and maybe they’ll actually care/remember you. That includes working on your physical presentation.

Using your analogy, how many “ Porsche or Ferrari” punters do you think are there amongst us?
Is it 1% or a bit more?

[CharlieM]

Cars and punters....terrible analogy.

When a guy drives a Ferrari in to a work shop for a service, the only thing the mechanic is thinking is how much more he can charge compared to the service on a Ford Falcon. No fixed capped pricing here.

I don't understand why so many will not accept the truth on how us punters are viewed by others.

[CharlieM]

If we were so proud of our favourite past time of punting. We would be talking it up every opportunity we get. Over dinner with family and friends. At work etc.
We wouldn't be looking to go punt at night, using rear entrances, punting in not your local area and hiding our faces when leaving a shop. These are all things we do because of the stigma related to punting.
For fucks sake, we even do our best to avoid bumping in to fellow punters.

[GoldfishMan]

I'll tell you what really makes me laugh. Most of the general non-punting public really believe in the stereotyped look and behaviours that are shown in pop culture of WGs. They must all look ugly, wear tacky clothes, must be trashy and bitchy, etc.

I've been to movies with ex-gfs where they showed these stereotypes and they just lapped it up without any questions. I remember back then thinking, "shit, if only you could see the hot girls I've fucked in this hobby!".

[Sammael]

Are you troubled by the fact that visiting a brothel or visiting a massage parlour is viewed with stigma by a lot of people?


Stigma no. Security yes. I had an issue after I just left a brothel. So now I always have someone close by to watch my back. I use that expression because that’s how it happened.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Stigma no. Security yes. I had an issue after I just left a brothel. So now I always have someone close by to watch my back. I use that expression because that’s how it happened.

You have a very familiar writing style.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Pretty baller having a bodyguard wait outside while you punt though

[Lasher167]

What if asking your partner for sex is too hard??

[ShaneW]

There's a stigma to it, I keep it a secret. It's my business and try to be extremely discreet.

[andrewv]

Stigma no. Security yes. I had an issue after I just left a brothel. So now I always have someone close by to watch my back. I use that expression because that’s how it happened.

What sort of someone to watch your back, a bodyguard?

[GoldfishMan]

What sort of someone to watch your back, a bodyguard?

I think what he means is only 1 of his many personas gets to experience the punt. The others have to wait "outside".

[ColesBag]

What if asking your partner for sex is too hard??

Not your fault. Do you what you have to do. Just keep it on the down low.

[Asiandaddy]

Went to Sussex Star today.
Walked in through the front door, after the session walked out through the back and as I stepped out.. A bunch of cross fitters seen me walked out and 1 dude looked at me, we locked eyes and I just stared back until he looked away. I didnt do the scurry dash and just slowly walked back up the lane way towards sussex st.

IDGAF... My business is my business

[Rustyman1980]

I'm single broke to with my missus and not dating and can't be fkd with the effort.

So punting is quicker fun way to skip the bullshit and score. So no I'm cool with it, probably change, actually definitely will change attitude of I'm in a relationship

[T1ooo]

to me its no different than going to a restaurant and eating someone else's cooking instead of my wife's cooking at home.