Loyalty

[A Nice Guy]

Anyone have a similar experience where you have shown loyalty to one shop and or girl for a long time and start to feel unappreciated but you keep going back.

[rojerramjet]

Anyone have a similar experience where you have shown loyalty to one shop and or girl for a long time and start to feel unappreciated but you keep going back.
It's about the money ....

[x0lover]

Doesn’t sounds like you are punting, but more like dating. If you are feeling unappreciated, that’s a good sign that you should stop. Are you falling for that girl? That is dangerous

[MSPint]

Long time lurker and first time posting here. I am having similar experience. I know it shouldn’t happen but I think Im falling for the girl…

[MSPint]

Long time lurker and first time posting here. I am having similar experience. I know it shouldn’t happen but I think Im falling in

[thunder545454]

Anyone have a similar experience where you have shown loyalty to one shop and or girl for a long time and start to feel unappreciated but you keep going back.

The more you go the lazier they get and the worse they treat you, they think your a chump little bitch who they can step on.

You need to book a session with someone else in the same shop, don't be afraid you will upset her who cares fuck her, I had to do it recently, booked it right in her face then waited a couple of weeks, the next time I went she flipped me straight over went at like she had been waiting and thinking about it like she should, wouldn't stop till I blew in her mouth then acted all sweet total attitude shift appreciation suddenly showed up, it's buyers market out there business isn't that good, plenty of good choices let her know.

[A Nice Guy]

Doesn’t sounds like you are punting, but more like dating. If you are feeling unappreciated, that’s a good sign that you should stop. Are you falling for that girl? That is dangerous

More so the shop than any one girl but yeah I probably have fallen for girls there too.
Agree probably is time to move on and try other places and girls.
Hard to break the routine though

[A Nice Guy]

The more you go the lazier they get and the worse they treat you, they think your a chump little bitch who they can step on.

You need to book a session with someone else in the same shop, don't be afraid you will upset her who cares fuck her, I had to do it recently, booked it right in her face then waited a couple of weeks, the next time I went she flipped me straight over went at like she had been waiting and thinking about it like she should, wouldn't stop till I blew in her mouth then acted all sweet total attitude shift appreciation suddenly showed up, it's buyers market out there business isn't that good, plenty of good choices let her know.

That's exactly what happened mate, I'd become her bitch and she knew it. Tried other girls there and worked for a while service came back but because she's popular at this shop and chumps pay well above market rates she doesn't give a rat's about loyal customers, only the highest bidder.
Stupid part was I was having fun in the shop with another girl who won't see me now because of her
Fucked situation all round.

[Bed Wrecker]

This the national pussy convention?

[JakeTheDrill]

Stupid part was I was having fun in the shop with another girl who won't see me now because of her
Fucked situation all round.

Damn son, ya gotta start thinking with the right head, it's all business, transactional, don't get attached.
What other industry has you paying decent dollar to be refused service due to BS like this

[4FoW2]

What's the quote these days - if you want loyalty get a dog!
$foW2

[BrisbaneSwede]

Loyalty is the naive word for what they're trying to do.

Extract more money off you by telling you or implying you get more if you come back.

[hurdur]

I remember some shops used to have loyalty cards and I always threw them away when they give it to me.

Some girls then offered to keep the card for me, so in a way I get a discount if I keep seeing the her lol

[A Nice Guy]

Thanks guys for all the advice. Duly noted

Better yet thanks for those who have messaged recommendations to get me out of this rut. I was going to said shop anything from 2 - 4 times a week so cashed up after a short break. I'll work my way through your recommendations and report back in a week or so.

Thanks boys

[Ghost of BarneyRubble]

Thanks guys for all the advice. Duly noted

Better yet thanks for those who have messaged recommendations to get me out of this rut. I was going to said shop anything from 2 - 4 times a week so cashed up after a short break. I'll work my way through your recommendations and report back in a week or so.

Thanks boys
Thats the spirit fella.
You will be yabba dabba dooing new and fun girls in no time.
2-4 times a week, no wonder shops tried to trap you. Spread the love man.
Shops should be begging you to be a regular not driving you away

[A Nice Guy]

Thats the spirit fella.
You will be yabba dabba dooing new and fun girls in no time.
2-4 times a week, no wonder shops tried to trap you. Spread the love man.
Shops should be begging you to be a regular not driving you away

Exactly Barney
You would think they would appreciate regular customers coming to their shop and not want to lose them.
Not just one girl losing my business here.
Jake is on the money too. Any other business would do whatever it took to keep you as their customer.
Not this one apparently.

Ah well their loss. Won't make the same mistake again.
Already started to share the love as you say and man it's feeling good.

Another update on how it's going next week

[JakeTheDrill]

Ah well their loss. Won't make the same mistake again.
Already started to share the love as you say and man it's feeling good.

Another update on how it's going next week

Glad to hear ya out of the slump and getting around.
This game has it's ups and downs, and it appears that you're on your way upppp.

Let us know what hidden gems you uncover.

[ArtieGee]

Loyalty is an interesting thing. Depends on who your loyal to. The girls get you in, but come and go. To most of them you are just $$$.
It's the shop owners who will repay loyalty, to the business and whoever works there on that day. I have found that establishing a relationship with the boss taking the bookings works well.
Fond memories of calling Pam at Stanley Street for the menu and finding gems time and again, often on her recommendations. Some of them still around today and never an issue trying a new girl or seeing and old fave.
Currently there are a couple of well known places with a similar feel and messaging the owner who's taking bookings can unearth interesting new experiences.
RTG

[Massage hunter]

That's exactly what happened mate, I'd become her bitch and she knew it. Tried other girls there and worked for a while service came back but because she's popular at this shop and chumps pay well above market rates she doesn't give a rat's about loyal customers, only the highest bidder.
Stupid part was I was having fun in the shop with another girl who won't see me now because of her
Fucked situation all round.

I have been in the same situation mate. Problem is that even though you know it is only business, it is hard to not become attached. By the way how did you get to know that other customers paid her more. Did she tell you about it? As far as I know they don't disclose the tips. How did you find out?

[Massage hunter]

More so the shop than any one girl but yeah I probably have fallen for girls there too.
Agree probably is time to move on and try other places and girls.
Hard to break the routine though

Very true. It's very hard to break the routine.

[rojerramjet]

Loyalty is an interesting thing. Depends on who your loyal to. The girls get you in, but come and go. To most of them you are just $$$.
It's the shop owners who will repay loyalty, to the business and whoever works there on that day. I have found that establishing a relationship with the boss taking the bookings works well.
Fond memories of calling Pam at Stanley Street for the menu and finding gems time and again, often on her recommendations. Some of them still around today and never an issue trying a new girl or seeing and old fave.
Currently there are a couple of well known places with a similar feel and messaging the owner who's taking bookings can unearth interesting new experiences.
RTG
Pam , wow some memorable stories to recall.

[Gentlemanscarfacethird]

Some are genuine and will reward loyalty with discounts, extra services, more meaningful experiences etc, others won’t bother.

For some, it’s SOP to hook a loyal customer with extravagant services, then actually reduce services over time. They can be very strategic and play a long game with this. And will target vulnerable people.

Red flags are being told they love you (I’ve had this on a first visits lol) and fishing questions trying to ascertain your income and assets.

Spread your wings, avoid becoming a regular. If it’s intimacy and relationship you want, you won’t find it here.

If you don’t know who the mark is, it’s definitely you.

[A Nice Guy]

Loyalty is an interesting thing. Depends on who your loyal to. The girls get you in, but come and go. To most of them you are just $$$.
It's the shop owners who will repay loyalty, to the business and whoever works there on that day. I have found that establishing a relationship with the boss taking the bookings works well.
Fond memories of calling Pam at Stanley Street for the menu and finding gems time and again, often on her recommendations. Some of them still around today and never an issue trying a new girl or seeing and old fave.
Currently there are a couple of well known places with a similar feel and messaging the owner who's taking bookings can unearth interesting new experiences.
RTG


Before I found this shop I was going to three other shops and had a great relationship with the owners who like you would recommend girls they knew I would like.

Recently I returned to one of the previous shops I went to and was welcomed with open arms and felt appreciated and valued as a customer.

I'm reasonably well connected and recommended the shop I've now stopped going to so lots of new customers for them. To be treated the way I have been made me feel like shit after all I did for them.

To be called A Nice Guy in this game I now consider an insult suggesting you are an easy mark.

Anyway it's working out for me now. More and better options and having fun again which is what it's all about.

[A Nice Guy]

Some are genuine and will reward loyalty with discounts, extra services, more meaningful experiences etc, others won’t bother.

For some, it’s SOP to hook a loyal customer with extravagant services, then actually reduce services over time. They can be very strategic and play a long game with this. And will target vulnerable people.

Red flags are being told they love you (I’ve had this on a first visits lol) and fishing questions trying to ascertain your income and assets.

Spread your wings, avoid becoming a regular. If it’s intimacy and relationship you want, you won’t find it here.

If you don’t know who the mark is, it’s definitely you.

I can relate to this too. Reduced services and in some cases found out services provided to new customers I'd reccomended were more than provided to myself. Not crying about that but makes you think why I bothered putting money in their pockets.

Good approach not to become a regular to any one girl. I intend doing that from her on.

[Massage hunter]

I can relate to this too. Reduced services and in some cases found out services provided to new customers I'd reccomended were more than provided to myself. Not crying about that but makes you think why I bothered putting money in their pockets.

Good approach not to become a regular to any one girl. I intend doing that from her on.

Same here too. I didn't recommend any customers since I knew that they are not loyal to any customer and all they cared for was money. However, the mistake I made was that I showed them that I was crazy for one girl and would not book anyone else. We are talking about massage services here not full services and the place pretended to be legit. But I knew for sure that they provided more than what this girl offered me so kept chasing her and being nice to her. I don't know why she wouldn't provide me extras as these were available in the shop. Probably she thought I was an easy target so would be sucked into giving her more and more money and returning every time. So maybe she gave other people the services that she didn't give me. Or maybe she didn't give extras in the shop while others did. I don't know. But the strange thing is that while she knew that I was in love with her, she would often advise me to see others too in the shop. Finally, something happened and I missed going there for a few weeks and then realized that it wasn't that bad. Now I see other girls at other massage shops but I try not do repeat someone on a regular basis. That place has been history for me for years now.

[Skip07]

It’s human nature, people want what they can’t have. If a girl knows you want her (even ML’s) it’s not uncommon you will get limited or no action from that girl. Especially if they feel a little freaked out by your vibe.
Attraction and chemistry come into play as well, even in massage shops.

[Massage hunter]

It’s human nature, people want what they can’t have. If a girl knows you want her (even ML’s) it’s not uncommon you will get limited or no action from that girl. Especially if they feel a little freaked out by your vibe.
Attraction and chemistry come into play as well, even in massage shops.

Very true but I learnt from experience

[A Nice Guy]

Freeeeedddddooooooommm.

Ive been loyal to a shop for years. Finally broke free.
Being a creature of habit, I found myself going to the same shop, sometimes multiple times a week for 3+ years. Spent a fortune there.
It all become very routine and I'd forgotten the excitement of going to a new shop for the first time and seeing a girl I hadn't seen or heard of. The art of the punt so to speak

Recently I started to break the cycle and it has been amazing.

Thanks fellas for all your recomendations it's given me plenty of options to check out.
I've broken out of this rut and have seen many new girls at unfamiliar shops.
I've had some fantastic punts over the last couple of weeks.
I didn’t realise how many good mls were out there willing to provide exceptional service to try and keep you coming back. I was made to feel like every other customer was better than me, even the ones who treated the girls I was seeing as shit leaving me to come away feeling unappreciated.

I feel like an idiot for being loyal to one shop for so long. So long, that I felt part of the furniture. Ended up not being appreciated by them to have me as a customer.
Thanks guys for all your support and understanding.
I've come through the other side and back enjoying my punting again.

[Massage hunter]

Freeeeedddddooooooommm.

Ive been loyal to a shop for years. Finally broke free.
Being a creature of habit, I found myself going to the same shop, sometimes multiple times a week for 3+ years. Spent a fortune there.
It all become very routine and I'd forgotten the excitement of going to a new shop for the first time and seeing a girl I hadn't seen or heard of. The art of the punt so to speak

Recently I started to break the cycle and it has been amazing.

Thanks fellas for all your recomendations it's given me plenty of options to check out.
I've broken out of this rut and have seen many new girls at unfamiliar shops.
I've had some fantastic punts over the last couple of weeks.
I didn’t realise how many good mls were out there willing to provide exceptional service to try and keep you coming back. I was made to feel like every other customer was better than me, even the ones who treated the girls I was seeing as shit leaving me to come away feeling unappreciated.

I feel like an idiot for being loyal to one shop for so long. So long, that I felt part of the furniture. Ended up not being appreciated by them to have me as a customer.
Thanks guys for all your support and understanding.
I've come through the other side and back enjoying my punting again.

Awesome


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[Johnny Apples]

Freeeeedddddooooooommm.

Ive been loyal to a shop for years. Finally broke free.
Being a creature of habit, I found myself going to the same shop, sometimes multiple times a week for 3+ years. Spent a fortune there.
It all become very routine and I'd forgotten the excitement of going to a new shop for the first time and seeing a girl I hadn't seen or heard of. The art of the punt so to speak

Recently I started to break the cycle and it has been amazing.

Thanks fellas for all your recomendations it's given me plenty of options to check out.
I've broken out of this rut and have seen many new girls at unfamiliar shops.
I've had some fantastic punts over the last couple of weeks.
I didn’t realise how many good mls were out there willing to provide exceptional service to try and keep you coming back. I was made to feel like every other customer was better than me, even the ones who treated the girls I was seeing as shit leaving me to come away feeling unappreciated.

I feel like an idiot for being loyal to one shop for so long. So long, that I felt part of the furniture. Ended up not being appreciated by them to have me as a customer.
Thanks guys for all your support and understanding.
I've come through the other side and back enjoying my punting again.

The best part of what we do is that we can have a different girl every time. They have to be mind blowing for me to return, I have stopped visiting familiar shops as well. Doing my best to discover the hidden gems out there and share with the brotherhood because we won’t find them if we all keep going to our favourite shop. It’s a lesson for us all not to let the game get us down.

[Gentlemanscarfacethird]

No more Mr Nice Guy ;)

[Peterpecker]

Yes no more Mr Nice Guy. I posted a review after a good management decision at one shop. I booked an hour and the girl was spent after 25 mins. The manager sent a second girl in. I do think it’s a good idea however to spread your custom around. The shops then don’t get complacent and the girls and you don’t get attached.

That’s important. A regular I had last year started asking lots of personal questions. I haven’t seen her this year despite it being a ‘banker’.

Variety can be the spice of life.

[Massage hunter]

Yes no more Mr Nice Guy. I posted a review after a good management decision at one shop. I booked an hour and the girl was spent after 25 mins. The manager sent a second girl in. I do think it’s a good idea however to spread your custom around. The shops then don’t get complacent and the girls and you don’t get attached.

That’s important. A regular I had last year started asking lots of personal questions. I haven’t seen her this year despite it being a ‘banker’.

Variety can be the spice of life.

Yes, sure, but would one booking really lead to attachment? Also, I think the decision of the management was to compromise for the service that was not delivered and not to spread the custom.. Bur surely it’s a good idea


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[A Nice Guy]

Yes no more Mr Nice Guy. I posted a review after a good management decision at one shop. I booked an hour and the girl was spent after 25 mins. The manager sent a second girl in. I do think it’s a good idea however to spread your custom around. The shops then don’t get complacent and the girls and you don’t get attached.

That’s important. A regular I had last year started asking lots of personal questions. I haven’t seen her this year despite it being a ‘banker’.

Variety can be the spice of life.

Agree with your comments. I learnt the hard way by staying loyal to one shop and one or two girls at that shop for over 3 years. In the end it bit me on the arse.

While I still tend to have my favourite shop I'm going to other places and have 3 or 4 regulars.
I'm in a much better mindset and back enjoying punting.

[Tales]

It's all about customer turn over. These girls are great at picking the gullible customer. They'll string them along as long as they can. With only offering a little bit more each visit. It amazes me how they can remember what they gave each customer the previous visit. I've even had ML ask me " what did we do last time". Essentially they know that you'll get bored of them and move on so they delay delivering their best service until they konw that's what it'll take to keep you interested. A fascinating game really, but if what your getting doesn't work for you, it's time to move on.

[Massage hunter]

Very true. My such experiences have been mainly Thai Massage places. Seems like they have a special training to keep doing this to clients.

[A Nice Guy]

It's all about customer turn over. These girls are great at picking the gullible customer. They'll string them along as long as they can. With only offering a little bit more each visit. It amazes me how they can remember what they gave each customer the previous visit. I've even had ML ask me " what did we do last time". Essentially they know that you'll get bored of them and move on so they delay delivering their best service until they konw that's what it'll take to keep you interested. A fascinating game really, but if what your getting doesn't work for you, it's time to move on.

My experience was a bit different in that the best service was provided from the beginning, then over time some services were reduced and I'm told I don't do that anymore for anyone.
Stupidly I kept seeing her even though I knew she was providing these services to others and some to not only other regulars but guys I reccomended to her from the beginning.
It was a case of seeing how she had changed from when she started to the person she has become now. Money has a way of changing people.
My mistake was not taking advice from one of the other ladies she worked with who tried telling me she was taking advantage of me. I knew she was but didn't want to believe she was that person as I thought I knew her better.
I was wrong, she has a side to her that isn't the sweet side she presents to the world.

Thankfully I've moved on but not without a cost of losing the trust of the person who tried to make me see what she was doing.
If only I listened..

[Massage hunter]

My experience was a bit different in that the best service was provided from the beginning, then over time some services were reduced and I'm told I don't do that anymore for anyone.
Stupidly I kept seeing her even though I knew she was providing these services to others and some to not only other regulars but guys I reccomended to her from the beginning.
It was a case of seeing how she had changed from when she started to the person she has become now. Money has a way of changing people.
My mistake was not taking advice from one of the other ladies she worked with who tried telling me she was taking advantage of me. I knew she was but didn't want to believe she was that person as I thought I knew her better.
I was wrong, she has a side to her that isn't the sweet side she presents to the world.

Thankfully I've moved on but not without a cost of losing the trust of the person who tried to make me see what she was doing.
If only I listened..

Yes don’t feel bad. We don’t want to believe it, even though it is clear in front of our eyes.. It’s just like the situation of abused women who keep staying in the relationship because they think the man will change. except in this case it’s us lol


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[Massage hunter]

My experience was a bit different in that the best service was provided from the beginning, then over time some services were reduced and I'm told I don't do that anymore for anyone.
Stupidly I kept seeing her even though I knew she was providing these services to others and some to not only other regulars but guys I reccomended to her from the beginning.
It was a case of seeing how she had changed from when she started to the person she has become now. Money has a way of changing people.
My mistake was not taking advice from one of the other ladies she worked with who tried telling me she was taking advantage of me. I knew she was but didn't want to believe she was that person as I thought I knew her better.
I was wrong, she has a side to her that isn't the sweet side she presents to the world.

Thankfully I've moved on but not without a cost of losing the trust of the person who tried to make me see what she was doing.
If only I listened..

Moving on is the best strategy

[Tales]

If your not getting whst you want, regardless of how much you like the girl.....move on, the search continues

[funinqld]

Yep all good points. hard to find good, consistent service in Brisbane at a decent price. Its when you get a good one and you stick with it and then all of a sudden you think I'll try someone else and that someoen else is ordinary so you get gunshy of trying another one then also as the prices here are too much

[A Nice Guy]

While I miss the consistency of a regular knowing what to expect I'm enjoying seeing different girls on a regular basis.

Sure some are dud punts but most so far are awesome thanks to you guys here. It's reassuring that I'm not the only one that can get sucked into the realm of being "A Nice Guy" and the girl doesn't have to perform at the level they once did because they know you will be back week after week.

I'm much happier now ive broken that cycle.

As commented by punters earlier no more Mr Nice Guy just Mr Fun Guy

[LoveML]

Hard with loyalty, as I stick with the one or two I like until they fly off or they do a really half effort job. It's a shame because it's all about the money, sometimes I try to incentivise them with a tip but no luck.

[Massage hunter]

While I miss the consistency of a regular knowing what to expect I'm enjoying seeing different girls on a regular basis.

Sure some are dud punts but most so far are awesome thanks to you guys here. It's reassuring that I'm not the only one that can get sucked into the realm of being "A Nice Guy" and the girl doesn't have to perform at the level they once did because they know you will be back week after week.

I'm much happier now ive broken that cycle.

As commented by punters earlier no more Mr Nice Guy just Mr Fun Guy

So it is Mr. Fun Guy from now on

[A Nice Guy]

So it is Mr. Fun Guy from now on

I was always Fun.
I'll still be nice too, just less so now so I don't get taken advantage of again...

[A Nice Guy]

Since breaking out I'm having a great time experiencing lots of great ladies across many shops

Fav shops so far are
Acqua
SSDS
Luna
Anytime
Touch
LMH

I should have realised a long time ago I was just another punter and my business not appreciated at the shop I would frequent most and recently stopped going to.

Don't get me wrong I still miss the old place and had many great times there.
Maybe one day I'll go back and see if I'm missed haha

Happy punting guys