WL Tipping Update

[Abracadabra]

Yep, apologies, I know this has been covered previously, but I'm interested in a latest update in relation to WLs tipping.

Personally, up until earlier this year, I was a bit of an indiscriminate WL tipper, through appreciating what the majority of girls do in servicing us motley crew... $50 if I had a good/reasonable time and enjoyed myself to an okay extent, only excluding the duds.

The $50s add up and I changed 5 months ago to a $50 tip only if I felt the WL had some "when can I see you again" drawcard or an out and out wow factor!

Not as many tips these days....some, but not as many and the WLs do notice.

Am I being stingy??
How do you punters approach this?

[jasng90]

Not stingy..$50 imho is perfect.

[birch]

agreed. If we're doing it tough just think how many of the ML's are doing?

[GoldfishMan]

Well, my tipping situation is a bit complicated.

It really depends on the dish. If it's kimchi or sweet n sour pork, I only tip if it was an exceptionally good dish or I got something "extra" added. And for a very long time now, I haven't had any exceptionally good kimchi or sweet n sour pork.

If it was sushi, I only tip to get upgraded to sashimi. Never for any other reason. As yet I have not had any sushi that warranted a tip simply because it was exceptionally good sushi.

[Abracadabra]

Well, my tipping situation is a bit complicated.

It really depends on the dish. If it's kimchi or sweet n sour pork, I only tip if it was an exceptionally good dish or I got something "extra" added. And for a very long time now, I haven't had any exceptionally good kimchi or sweet n sour pork.

If it was sushi, I only tip to get upgraded to sashimi. Never for any other reason. As yet I have not had any sushi that warranted a tip simply because it was exceptionally good sushi.

Esoteric but clear!

[faruk]

Never tip these girls because once you start, they see you as an ATM.

In my experience the sessions are much more genuine if you don't tip. What I mean is repeat business is more than good enough. Repeat business without tipping generates a more girlfriend experience from these girls. They appreciate you visiting them again. But as soon as you tip, the relationship turns into a more direct financial one where they start to think (subconsciously or consciously) that they can hit you up for more cash.

[11Bravo]

My question is: why tip, financially?

On the initial visit:
Case 1: She's a one-n-done. You can say "thank you", but why tip? All parties have agreed and accepted the price. What are you paying extra for? Gratitude? Guilt? She's moved to the history column.
Case 2: You know she'll join your pitching rotation. Let her know. But why tip? MY experience, on subsequent visits, the price you've paid will be the understood price for ALL subsequent visits. On the return, she WILL expect the SAME price, INCLUDING tip. And why not? Paid once, why are you now shortchanging her for a similar service? Has she already diminished in your eyes? She won't say anything but that disappointment will linger and potentially fester. Flip of the coin: on your next visit, does she work harder for a tip, or does she just coast as the effort is not worth it? My attitude is why foster expectations that might not be met unless you are going to tip her EVERY time.
Case 3: She has potential, so you will return for another interview. So why tip? Return and apply Case 1 or Case 2.

I agree with faruk. MY tip is ALWAYS return business. To the smart ones, that's money in the bank.

In the cases I have paid extra (you say tip, I say raise), I consider that a salary raise that will be paid EVERY visit because she's earned the raise with exceptional service. But then I'm not a white knight nor CentreLink.

[faruk]

My question is: why tip, financially?

On the initial visit:
Case 1: She's a one-n-done. You can say "thank you", but why tip? All parties have agreed and accepted the price. What are you paying extra for? Gratitude? Guilt? She's moved to the history column.
Case 2: You know she'll join your pitching rotation. Let her know. But why tip? MY experience, on subsequent visits, the price you've paid will be the understood price for ALL subsequent visits. On the return, she WILL expect the SAME price, INCLUDING tip. And why not? Paid once, why are you now shortchanging her for a similar service? Has she already diminished in your eyes? She won't say anything but that disappointment will linger and potentially fester. Flip of the coin: on your next visit, does she work harder for a tip, or does she just coast as the effort is not worth it? My attitude is why foster expectations that might not be met unless you are going to tip her EVERY time.
Case 3: She has potential, so you will return for another interview. So why tip? Return and apply Case 1 or Case 2.

I agree with faruk. MY tip is ALWAYS return business. To the smart ones, that's money in the bank.

In the cases I have paid extra (you say tip, I say raise), I consider that a salary raise that will be paid EVERY visit because she's earned the raise with exceptional service. But then I'm not a white knight nor CentreLink.

That's a very important point I forgot about. Once you tip them, the expectation is set. If you tip them $50, they will expect that the next visit. If you don't tip they will wonder why and even think you're a cheapskate - for paying what you're only obliged to pay! It's human nature, once you set their expectations you can't go down from there.

But my first point was mainly about how they perceive you. If you keep returning as a regular, they give better service which most likely is gfe. But once you give them cold hard cash, they start to think of ways to manipulate you for more. This is speaking from years and years of punting experience.

Bottom line is do not tip - if you really want to reward them, just return as a regular.

[Johny77]

Pay for the service provided and what you have agreed to. No need to go further. If you start tipping above what was agreed, be prepared to pay that, each and every time. Just remember, it’s business to them. You are just a number. Do you tip your barista for providing you the coffee you ordered?

[GoldfishMan]

Pay for the service provided and what you have agreed to. No need to go further. If you start tipping above what was agreed, be prepared to pay that, each and every time. Just remember, it’s business to them. You are just a number. Do you tip your barista for providing you the coffee you ordered?

Not the barista but I have tipped lots of wait staff at restaurants. Not much, a couple of bucks spare change.

Speaking of that, when you tip wait staff, that's a REAL tip because it is given with nothing expected in return. You might never return to the restaurant, for example.

When punters tip a WG, that to me is not a real tip. They will most likely return and expect better service. Or as I said, some girls give extra "something" during the sesh and the tip is just payment for that.

I don't think there are any punters silly enough to tip a WG and never return to see her again or got something special from her. What's the point?

[JJBlows]

why the fuck you guys tipping for??
you only tip if the girl really does a extra outside of her normal servive for you but just for the basics of going and getting a HE or fuck at a brothel you should not be tipping period.

[Hedonisticfun]

why the fuck you guys tipping for??
you only tip if the girl really does a extra outside of her normal servive for you but just for the basics of going and getting a HE or fuck at a brothel you should not be tipping period.

oh contraire , I have no problem tipping and have generously ! Have usually had outcall escorts but recently gone to R&T and brothels as well . Standard of services naturally vary but once I find a winner I have no problem giving a little extra , especially the incall premises , I can*t believe the service provided for so cheap a price , so I have no problem tipping a $100 -$200 for service provided and still below an outcall . The outcall regulars was tipping but now being regulars , have resorted to small gifts .. the $600 - $1000 fee is sufficient plus being regulars says it all .

[belvaros]

I've been giving only $20 on 1/2 hour, more for 1 hour but I ain't wealthy anymore.. this is for Ginza

YMMV (your money may vary)

PS when I was balling in NYC at Flashdancers, I'd blow US$500-2k daily on strippers (plus extras... cause some were just WL)...... then again there is more 90/100 plus pussy there than any place on earth.... but I only tipped the wait staff, usually $8 on a $12 Heineken... same in Nawlins, Vegas, Orlando, LA.. yada

Now I'm older, poorer and need to spend $1k for 4 days just getting in/staying/out of Sydney, hence I can't tip much.... I do buy certain girls chocolates or stuffed toys (FIFO Japanese)... the girls respect any amount... even Ari.. I gave her but $20 for 1/2 hour and she was so lovely and genuinely appreciative.


C. Cici and J.Marie = I'll tip in sperm, over and over

[Zoobender]

Yeh Marie's pussy is tight. She milks all my cum right in there. She is a solid fuck

[Spectra]

I tipped and now I don’t want to. How do I still punt the women and tell them I’m not doing that?
Any suggestions?

[Zoobender]

I tipped and now I don’t want to. How do I still punt the women and tell them I’m not doing that?
Any suggestions?

Just don't tip next time unless you get extra services.

[Spectra]

The problem is I think they’ve grown to expect it. If I’ve been doing that all the time and then stop it could look silly. I can only see two options, tell them and let the dice roll or don’t go back?

I feel this is a typical George Constanza Conundrum! I’m concerned and I don’t want to be seen to look like him. They may even start calling me George as I walk down the hallway past them, or even worse a Cheap Charlie.

This is the sordid pile of dung I’ve built for myself and now it’s come back to bite me. Surely there must be some intellectual wizardry that a member uses and is willing to share?

This is serious and I need to find a solution.

[11Bravo]

I tipped and now I don’t want to. How do I still punt the women and tell them I’m not doing that?
Any suggestions?

Find another provider. Once you set expectations, anything less will, even subconsciously, negatively effect performance. And why wouldn't it. Previously, you got this, paid that. Now, you got this, maybe even more, and paid less. Most certainly a losing proposition. It's why I NEVER tip. Any increase, and I have, on occasion, made some is considered a raise in her salary, a permanent raise.

[nosytt]

I thought this was going to be about sports or horses . . .

[aussiegaigin]

Need to clearly distinguish between "tipping" and paying a WL/ML extra for extra services above what was included in the initial deal.

When you tip a waiter in a restaurant, you have not paid her directly for that service, so it is a bonus over her wage. Would you tip the chef, the barista, the owner?

[ColesBag]

I tipped and now I don’t want to. How do I still punt the women and tell them I’m not doing that?
Any suggestions?

The Rubicon has been crossed. You're fucked.

Consider taking a woman to fine dining one week for date night at the beginning of the relationship then immediately taking her to Red Rooster the next week & eating in the car.

[Spectra]

The Rubicon has been crossed. You're fucked.

Consider taking a woman to fine dining one week for date night at the beginning of the relationship then immediately taking her to Red Rooster the next week & eating in the car.


I’ve made my own bed so I’ll have to sleep in it.

I hope I’ll be well and truly fucked after all as that is the plan. It was a hypothetical thought anyway. During times of mental dullness in life I tend to overthink things, generate scenarios that could happen as well as think of things that won’t happen and it comes from having an overactive mind. I don’t think I could ever slow down. I’ve tried these last three months but old habits die hard. That ML tells me I think too much and all I think is that someone has to do the thinking!

Instead of just driving the car I’m thinking of getting it serviced and what if I have a crash? Yes I think too much…



Find another provider. Once you set expectations, anything less will, even subconsciously, negatively effect performance. And why wouldn't it. Previously, you got this, paid that. Now, you got this, maybe even more, and paid less. Most certainly a losing proposition. It's why I NEVER tip. Any increase, and I have, on occasion, made some is considered a raise in her salary, a permanent raise.


11Bravo I accept your point but I’ve let the cat out of the bag, I “love pussy too much”, I’ve spilt the milk and they’re licking it up.

On Pitt st if you see me rattling a can with a sign asking for money could you tip me too as I need their honey?

Yes I’ve set expectations and it’s a feel good moment for all concerned. What I threw out was a juxtaposition of hypothetical thoughts. I honestly couldn’t and wouldn’t go back on tipping the regulars even if I have to eat porridge and be secular. As it is I tip the church and the beggars, the nuns that walk by and anyone I see in a lurch. So who will be the winner? The regulars of course even if I go without dinner.

I suppose it averages out in the long run anyway, girls here plus the girls OS. Taken into consideration a punt is good value considering dating a civvie can be just as expensive and you’re not sure of the outcome, sometimes it’s a physical need of getting it now and not wanting to play the waiting game.

That’s not to say some women don’t put up on the first night, I’ve found a lot do but if I want surety then I go back to backing a sure bet and tipping.

11Bravo I’ll heed your advice so from now on any new stock will be wholesale not retail, a precedent will be set so I cannot fail.

Time waits for no man and by this time next week the review will be history, the girls will be happy and my conjecture won’t be mystery.

[11Bravo]

11Bravo I accept your point but I’ve let the cat out of the bag, I “love pussy too much”, I’ve spilt the milk and they’re licking it up.

On Pitt st if you see me rattling a can with a sign asking for money could you tip me too as I need their honey?
You lost me somewhere in the 3rd paragraph, but then, soap operas are NOT my thing.

[Spectra]

I thought it was self explanatory and I seem I have more explaining to do so I’ll explain just a little bit. I was hinting I’d give up going to church/donating to anyone and even go without food myself just so the ladies get their tips.

It was intended as light discourse and simply stating facts can be bland don’t you think? I know you wrote something that said “state the facts” previously and when I write the next review the two headers, one for each lady will have just that, the standard template format and then I’ll go into detail about the social intercourse and no soap opera of course unless you want me singing whilst hanging from the chandelier?