Ramping

[project_manager006]

If you're into shares and know the website hotcopper, you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, then it's a forum where people talk about shares, only it's filled with idiots who incessantly talk up stocks no matter how low the share price is or how much it has fallen. Dumbest comments include "this stock is gonna go up!!!!!" (without providing reasons), "the Director has bought more, so this is a good company/the Director sold his shares, this is a good company" and "if the general market is going up, everyone rushes to these speculative mining companies/if the general market is going down, everyone rushes to these speculative mining companies".

So you get the idea.

Just wondering, do you think ramping occurs here? Twice now I have been to see a girl who was talked of highly here, only to be severely disappointed. A few users made her out to sound like the next Jennifer Hawkins, but she was nowhere near. The difference is so big you can't even put it down to a matter of personal taste. Some people here even come close to saying she's the best ever. I don't want to name names because I don't want to hurt the girls or the shops.

I also think some guys get 'paid' for doing reports, whether in money or freebies by shops.

I know this post might attract a bit of controversy, however, what has made this forum great so far, and what makes it stand above other forums, is the freedom to express one's opinion and the allowing of fair and objective comments.

[strictly]

Personally I think it happens quite regularly. On the basis that I have actually tried based on the outstanding ARs produced.
I know it comes down to personal taste & that can be quite subjective but seriously some are hyperly RAMPED up. It is arguable but in a bugger scheme of things you can see why it happens.

[pkw]

I'm sure it happens in all discussion forums ... to what extent we'll never know.

But that's exactly why we need more opinions. Disclose your experience as it happened. It's not really our business if the girl's or the business' wallets get hurt, right? Isn't that what this forum is for ... provide information?

[HengDai]

sounds a lot like the Alan Jones "Cash for Comments" saga :P

[PhoBot]

I don't think people would get paid or freebies for reports, but I think some punters may build a rapport with the owner who asks for a report, and may receive preferential booking and a few little extras, and maybe a delayed buzzer once in a while. (just my guess) I believe the credibility of this forum is in threat to some degree from this, along with the spamming of the AR section.

[AHLUNGOR]

Nothing new or unusual here!

It's a free for all adult punting forum, people post whatever they want, it's up to you to choose who, what, and how much you believe and follow.

Girls quality and services are very personal and could vary a lot between different punters.

On the other hand, prediction of share prices, forex, betting on sports and footy are much more straight forward, you either win or loss......lol

As a big breasts lover. I think I am very easy to please, if a brother suggested that some ML or WL has got great big tits, that usually is quite reliable and I have benefited a lot over the years:

Maya, Milo, Rita at 5 Star
Sasa, Jojo, Sophie, Mia, Linda, Maggie from 501

So whenever possible, I try to return the favour

Cheers

[BlueBirdDuke]

Yep, agree that it happens. I save myself from disappointment by walking if I dislike what's on offer. Pisses off the mamasan at times but hey...

[Fisher]

I find there is alot more accurate info on this foroum compared too another non punt related foroum that i am on which allows photos too be posted with reports keep seeing the same photos three too four times a year.
Compared too other members i am no way a regular contributer to after reports/ general chat as the punting has drop off a bit lately but i try too be as accurate as possible when i do

[cheungchau]

members are smart enough to tell which post is shop selfpromoting / memebr self-promoting for own ego/interest... Simply ignore those posts

[igloo]

I don't think people would get paid or freebies for reports, but I think some punters may build a rapport with the owner who asks for a report, and may receive preferential booking and a few little extras, and maybe a delayed buzzer once in a while. (just my guess) I believe the credibility of this forum is in threat to some degree from this, along with the spamming of the AR section.

I believe once we start talking about degrees, we may as well say it happens. I am sure PhoBot is correct that it might just start with little extras, but as we all know things must ramp up from there.
I am replying to say I really dont care if people are receiving benefits, whether that is 10 minutes, or free punts, or an extra girl....All I care about is the accuracy of the report...Yes its subjective to a large degree however the OP said there was no way personal taste could account for the void between the AR and his experience.... That is a huge issue, lying or ramping should be punished by real bans and outings of the offenders. I remember seeing a very angry reply by a brother to a poster who had been called out for the 3rd time...the sentence had 6 expletives and 2 regular words... I will have a look.

Back to my point,it has been said before but if (for example) The Tiger was receiving benifits (which he still claims he has not) it would not bother me because by following his AR's I got tips on what the WL responded to and what technical skills she had. His detail was always accurate for me, so he saved me money on duds and helped me pick winners. I have sat with a couple of WL after hours and we went thru some of the report on them, they saidsome things in the report did not happen, maybe she only had 2 orgasms not 5 as the punter claimed, but she did suck the cock with varying tempo and suction, she did move her head to the rhythm of the music etc etc... so whats the harm. Some guys include self promo, ego promo, or girls promo... that can be ignored the vibe of the room and technical skills are what we want to know about and that info is available in most reports.
maybe they should disclose... maybe they shouldn't. I agree with sthe comments relating to the freedom to post whatever far outweighs the benifits if we adopted a set format. At the end of the day u either have similar tastes and likes to the poster or not or he is a LIAR, only number 3 should beconcentrated on.

So to the OP Project manager, who did u see and what was your experience with her?

[jellyshots]

Alternatively, members read way too much into things. Some shop regulars push the "friendship", I prefer not to. Better to just enjoy what's on offer. Owners have never asked me to put up AR's. And I've never gotten freebies. I usually finish up 5 mins before the buzzer so I can grab a shower so I guess the only thing that I benefit from is the funny conversations I have in shop.

[mkko2]

I agree with the OP so much here....
I know I write a lot of shit posts - and somebody has also hacked into my account.
But in all seriousness, I have tried some girls that were recommended here and found them to be below average.... then when I commented on it on the forum, a whole bunch of highly esteemed members started personal attacks on me... it seems they are not open to criticisms....

I have given up... just discount whatever is said here with a 50% hair cut...

there are some real gems out there in Sydney... such as Misha from GF... many of the MOC girls...

Prices reflect things too... if a girl costs 160 ph... you know what to expect...

[Sextus]

My reviews usually end up to be over 2000 words because I pretty much do a step by step description of what happens next. The detail is all there because I'm a witness of it.

Then there are things that happen during all this that tell me about a girl's personality. There is usually a language barrier, so anything you can learn from the sex itself about the girl's personality is really useful for everyone to know.

I suppose the level of my detail and the eyewitness nature of it gives my reviews their integrity.

Then there was the dud review I gave of Monica. The trouble is (if you can call it that) I am a nice guy, and girls, after all, are the fairer, more vulnerable sex - and after I posted it, it hurt my feelings and my chivalrous instincts. On the other hand, since then, I've learnt that she has made efforts to improve her service, and I'm sure my review had something to do with that.

In quite a degree of irritation I have since written a review from 533, that worked for me as a kind of catharsis to get it out of my system, and the only motivation for me to post it now, ie, revenge, seems to be something that would give my conscience more pain than such a miserable motive would give me satisfaction. I know this girl does have her fans - so go figure it out. (Should I post it?)

Because I've since realised they are all descriptions of a single encounter with a girl on that specific day.

I saw Fenny for example, when she was new to the 64 shop and she was spectacular. When I saw her again a few weeks ago, I could tell she was trying her best, but she just wasn't into it nearly as much, eg. I was amazed that her dfk was off the menu! I had a feeling then that she may have become jaded, and I appreciate that some girls seem to be superhuman in their ability not to become jaded (eg Eva and Cici) but others may not be up to that. At the end of the session, as we showered together, I saw her massaging her lower tummy deeply over and over, and it turned out she had become sore inside that day, which accounted for what happened - or didn't happen, I should say. So same girl, different day, and I can only report what happens on any particular day.

I'm also bone lazy when it comes to travel, and as 64 pussy is only 15 minutes away, rather than the two hour return trip to 533, or to Rydalmere, or dealing with the cbd, or walking through tricky Redfern areas at night when I go to Elizabeth st - so 64 is where I mostly go. Through sheer convenience, laziness, and, er, the very good rep of many of its girls!

[Sextus]

Ginza, based on the AR's I've read from there, seems to be (apart from the Brand Girl sites) a kind of sexual heaven. The kind of sexual heaven that was formerly restricted to martyrs for taking out 50 people with them.

I think all these reviews from Ginza are true. Wizard's I can certainly trust. And Rooter's may only be his own personal, enthusiastic style.

A dud punt for me, being a sensitive sod, really fucks up my mind for a day or so, and I never ever want to have any more.

Because of Ginza's reputation therefore, and as I have a set budget for punting over a year, I was thinking of reducing my punting but maintaining my p.a. expenditure at more expensive places, ie Ginza.

[mkko2]

Ginza, based on the AR's I've read from there, seems to be (apart from the Brand Girl sites) a kind of sexual heaven. The kind of sexual heaven that was formerly restricted to martyrs for taking out 50 people with them.



agree so much

[Action Pump]

Remember Hooker Looker...biggest offender. As the idiom goes "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". Never visited that sit again.

[Gucci2012]

I know I write a lot of shit posts -

Agree so much....

[slarty]

Somehow I missed this thread when it was first posted (must have missed it in between all those shop bumps :) ). For mine its obvious ramping does go on and as pointed out by some brothers it is relatively easy to see when it is occurring and ignore those posts- or is it?

Over the past few months I've formed an opinion that some members could have multiple logins which they can use to give the appearance of an independent or supporting review, opinion or question. Obviously due to the anonymity of the internet I have no proof of this so I can't name names. Just over time you get to recognise writing styles. With some of these allegedly duplicate members a search of their posting history can show up some odd patterns. I doubt this goes on a lot, but anyone with enough persistence and lead time could do it.

If this is in fact going on I am much more concerned about that than ramping. Why? because its sneaky and dishonest. But then again I could be just imagining things hey?....

[Littlewonder]

A lt of ramping goes on some of it is intentional some of it probably not. Some times we can get carried away when we find a girl we click with and have a great time.

At the end of the day it all depends on what you like and what you look for in a punt and we are all different and so that also varies.

I think if punters try to tell it how it is then thats fair enough and its up to the reader to decided how much of it is ramping.

If your a regular at a shop and the girls get to know you then you are going to get better service than someone that just walks in off the street in 90% of cases.

And I firmly believe it doesnt matter who you are you get better service from a girl if you see her a few times its human nature you both get comfortable with one an other and so relax more and know what each other likes and does not like etc.

So what may apear to be ramping may be just because you dont click with the girl the way the person who wrote the AR does etc YEMV.

[asiafever]

When you're horny it is hard to tell truth from fiction. But remember the law of probability, that which is most likely to be true usually is. 18 years old Japanese with natural d cups and18 inch waist and impeccable service at $140?
Sure ramping goes on, but we have to discover for ourselves, that's why it's 'punting'.
Meanwhile I really must try ginza. I love Japanese, I mean adore, lived there and have serious withdrawal symptoms, but the city is a hike and I have serious time restrictions.. sigh.. one day....

[kay_z83]

Rule of thumb - Always take on the majority preference. You can always get 1 or 2 extremely good or bad reviews but if overall is OK, that means good punting.

[project_manager006]

Sure ramping goes on, but we have to discover for ourselves, that's why it's 'punting'.

But that is also one of the reasons this forum exists - for people to share knowledge to separate the good from the bad. The forum gets mis-used when people start presenting the bad as the good intentionally.


Rule of thumb - Always take on the majority preference. You can always get 1 or 2 extremely good or bad reviews but if overall is OK, that means good punting.

However, that doesn't take into account people who create multiple profiles and generate a mass of reviews.


Over the past few months I've formed an opinion that some members could have multiple logins which they can use to give the appearance of an independent or supporting review, opinion or question. Obviously due to the anonymity of the internet I have no proof of this so I can't name names. Just over time you get to recognise writing styles. With some of these allegedly duplicate members a search of their posting history can show up some odd patterns. I doubt this goes on a lot, but anyone with enough persistence and lead time could do it.

If this is in fact going on I am much more concerned about that than ramping. Why? because its sneaky and dishonest. But then again I could be just imagining things hey?....

I have no doubt this goes on. But as you pointed out, there's no way to prove it. But also as you say, there can be indications.


A lt of ramping goes on some of it is intentional some of it probably not. Some times we can get carried away when we find a girl we click with and have a great time.

At the end of the day it all depends on what you like and what you look for in a punt and we are all different and so that also varies.

I think if punters try to tell it how it is then thats fair enough and its up to the reader to decided how much of it is ramping.

If your a regular at a shop and the girls get to know you then you are going to get better service than someone that just walks in off the street in 90% of cases.

And I firmly believe it doesnt matter who you are you get better service from a girl if you see her a few times its human nature you both get comfortable with one an other and so relax more and know what each other likes and does not like etc.

So what may apear to be ramping may be just because you dont click with the girl the way the person who wrote the AR does etc YEMV.

I agree, but a lot of these 'ramp' posts aren't from regulars with the girl - they appear to see the girl for the first time.

I'm actually glad this thread was brought back up, because I was thinking about it the other day. How about a little option when posting for the poster to indicate whether they have an 'interest' in the shop or not? At Hotcopper you have the option of indicating whether you hold shares in that company or not before you post your thoughts/opinions. If a person indicates that they have an 'interest' in the shop, whether they are getting paid or getting some extra time for doing reviews, then it works both ways - readers can assess better the reports and posters earn more credibility on this board.

What has always made this forum great (and it was a lot better a few years ago before shops kept bumping their own threads) was the objective posts by the people here and the freedom allowed by the admin to do so. Admin really strikes a good balance between freedom of speech and defamation, but the next challenge I think is to weed out non-objective posts.

Just my 2 cents.

[Sextus]

Here is a list of the most frequent reviewers, probably responsible for 90% of the AR content. I can't see any shared personalites, multi identities, or shared writing style amongst any of them. Maybe that is because there isn't any - sounds like a conspiracy theory!

Drax
Pussyhunter
JimmyK
joeblow69
shaggydog
gucci2012
MaxImpact
Kickass
LittleWonder
Phobot
Sextus
Yellowfever
Ilovefs
Dude
69hornyjohn
Rooter
cmk76
Ease
Igloo
Jellyshots
Wizard

Other occasional reviewers make up the other 10%, apologies if you aren't named.)

[slarty]

Nah its across all sorts of behaviours, from occasional positive reviews to refuting someone else's negative reviews to asking dorothy dix questions to bump up a thread. If its happening it would be manifesting itself in members with lower post counts. After all it would be hard work to maintain multiple logins.

Of course this is all conjecture!

If it exists you wouldn't see it among the reviews of prolific reviewers- all they could be accused of is bias and everyone has that to some degree.

[AHLUNGOR]

Here is a list of the most frequent reviewers, probably responsible for 90% of the AR content. I can't see any shared personalites, multi identities, or shared writing style amongst any of them. Maybe that is because there isn't any - sounds like a conspiracy theory!

Drax
Pussyhunter
JimmyK
joeblow69
shaggydog
gucci2012
MaxImpact
Kickass
LittleWonder
Phobot
Sextus
Yellowfever
Ilovefs
Dude
69hornyjohn
Rooter
cmk76
Ease
Igloo
Jellyshots
Wizard

Other occasional reviewers make up the other 10%, apologies if you aren't named.)

And no WILISNO ??

[Sextus]

Good points slarty. When you have a regular shop, as many do, like ginza or 533 or 64, the great times you have with many of the girls there means you can't help but develop warm feelings towards the establishment. I think that is the reason Ginza particularly has knights rushing to its support and defence against any perceived criticism or slight against it. (More than anywhere else certainly.) On the other hand, that can just as easily be explained by how great their fucking girls really are!

But warm feelings toward the establishment has nothing to do with the girls themselves. For the reviews, either the girl has a happy and co-operative demeanor or she didn't. Either you landed your come in her mouth or you didn't. Either she fucked you hard and enthusiastically in cowgirl or she didn't. Things are objective in other words, and if it happens, I will report it. Whatever happens, I will report it. If something doesn't happen though, by definition, I have nothing to report! Is the sky blue? In answering that, bias is irrelevant!

[Sextus]

And no WILISNO ??

Sorry wilisno - and I didn't mention valuable massage reviewers either as I never access that forum, I just meant the FS forum.

[CunningLinguist]

Over the past few months I've formed an opinion that some members could have multiple logins which they can use to give the appearance of an independent or supporting review, opinion or question. Obviously due to the anonymity of the internet I have no proof of this so I can't name names.

This would be easy to identify by the admins, as the same IP address would come up for the "users".
Perhaps the admins could monitor for this and check for dishonesty.

[CunningLinguist]

Here is a list of the most frequent reviewers, probably responsible for 90% of the AR content. I can't see any shared personalites, multi identities, or shared writing style amongst any of them. Maybe that is because there isn't any - sounds like a conspiracy theory!


Nice list but I think a more interesting list would be to see the percentage of positve/negative reviews by punters, and then a list breaking it down and showing the percentages for each shop. I do this in my head and don't even bother reading some reviews because I know what they are going to say.
Someone may have a duplicate account and only have a few posts but are all positive and all for a particluar shop.

[asiafever]

Oh I agree sextus. It's an educated guess per se, you use the information gathered on here to make a decision to visit someone, but you're punting on it being as described. Misrepresentation is a problem, you expect shops to 'sell' their workers, but yeah false reviews are a essentially false advertising.

[Sextus]

Yes, I think we all look towards the number of posts a poster has made when evaluating the worth of their comments.

[CunningLinguist]

Oh I agree sextus. It's an educated guess per se, you use the information gathered on here to make a decision to visit someone, but you're punting on it being as described. Misrepresentation is a problem, you expect shops to 'sell' their workers, but yeah false reviews are a essentially false advertising.

Whether it is misrepresentation or not is hard to prove, some people are eternal optimists, and some might even be blind!. In the real world we have to deal with
misrepresentation all the time, whether it is deliberate or not. So we learn and filter. If someone writes alot of questionable reviews then people will learn to flter them. Bear in mind though that alot of first time or casual forum visitors will not be aware of this.

[Sextus]

but yeah false reviews are a essentially false advertising.

I can't say I've ever read one myself. They would be such hard work to compose. Man, there is so much effort in writing what actually does happen without having to think up all sort of elabourate scenarios that didn't! Fuck that! The list of reviewers above, the 90 percenters, I think none of we ****'s are talented enough to be up to it! Or want to, or need to!

I'm genuinely convinced that the TMC, Myoutcall, Ginza, 64, 533 etc reviews, describe what the girls are like, that describe specific things they did that demonstrate their attitude and engagement. I think this thread is like looking at a big clean polished floor, so clean that a speck of dust is all you can see on it, and that speck of dust then becomes the only topic of conversation - and forget the acres of beautiful clean polished floorboards around it!

[project_manager006]

I can't say I've ever read one myself. They would be such hard work to compose. Man, there is so much effort in writing what actually does happen without having to think up all sort of elabourate scenarios that didn't! Fuck that! The list of reviewers above, the 90 percenters, I think none of we ****'s are talented enough to be up to it! Or want to, or need to!

I'm genuinely convinced that the TMC, Myoutcall, Ginza, 64, 533 etc reviews, describe what the girls are like, that describe specific things they did that demonstrate their attitude and engagement. I think this thread is like looking at a big clean polished floor, so clean that a speck of dust is all you can see on it, and that speck of dust then becomes the only topic of conversation - and forget the acres of beautiful clean polished floorboards around it!

I dunno man, but the things you mention, actually point to, for me, the reverse.

[CunningLinguist]

I have read a review for a girl from one of the shops mentioned above and saw her based on the review.
I was dissapointed as the review was questionable concerning the looks and weight of the girl, everything else was accurate though.

[asiafever]

Let's put it this way, I'm not sure it happens here as I don't read reviews of places I have no intention of visiting, usually for geographic reasons, but on a previous forum I visited it was rife. You just couldn't trust a word written there. I found out the hard way far too often. True the majority of reviews here would be genuine, but again people are prone to embellish, some may say they received bbbj when it was cbj, some would say the got dfk when they didn't etc. Why? Buggered if I know, but one thing I've learned the hard way is people lie for no good reason. Anyway, that's part of the fun, discovering new things, and if everyone received the same service would we not start to accuse it of being mechanical? If you follow someone's review and it doesn't work out the same for you, bad luck, too many variables could cause that, if it happens 5, 6, 7 times etc, either you're doing something wrong or there's the possibility of it being 'ramping'. You start to learn who likes what you like and read their offerings more than others.

[Sextus]

At $350 per hour for the girls, that gives me enough faith in the reports alone. Man, if I'd paid out that much and come up short - well just wait for my pen to come forth dripping blood. The Japanese girls of Ginza's quality speak for themselves I think. That leaves the $150 shops. I'm struggling to find a girl in the reviews who hasn't been as described, or any poster to come forward to say they haven't been. But meanwhile this thread nourishes conspiracy theories that undermines all the reviews, and the genuine effort that goes into writing the reviews for the benefit of all.

[wilisno]

I can't say I've ever read one myself. They would be such hard work to compose. Man, there is so much effort in writing what actually does happen without having to think up all sort of elabourate scenarios that didn't! Fuck that! The list of reviewers above, the 90 percenters, I think none of we ****'s are talented enough to be up to it! Or want to, or need to!

I'm genuinely convinced that the TMC, Myoutcall, Ginza, 64, 533 etc reviews, describe what the girls are like, that describe specific things they did that demonstrate their attitude and engagement. I think this thread is like looking at a big clean polished floor, so clean that a speck of dust is all you can see on it, and that speck of dust then becomes the only topic of conversation - and forget the acres of beautiful clean polished floorboards around it!

Conspiracy theories and gossips are always the most popular topics of discussions in any forums, that's a normal phenomenon !

Anyone who contributes a lot will be subject to criticisms. The only way to avoid criticism is not to contribute or contribute less frequently, that's the reason why a lot of potential reviewers are holding back writing reviews for fear that they would be attacked, in fact, Bro Jellyshots had admitted that's what he did in the beginning !

Although there are forum rules that address this problem, they are rarely enforced, but I believe there's a limit to the tolerance before some actions to be taken to rectify this.

Some members instead of writing reviews to benefit others, they choose to create threads that cause controversy and cross-fighting among members, these are the behaviours that need to be weeded out for the healthy development of the forum and the industry.

[wilisno]

True the majority of reviews here would be genuine, but again people are prone to embellish, some may say they received bbbj when it was cbj, some would say the got dfk when they didn't etc. Why? Buggered if I know.

Even when one doesn't get the service as described in the review, that's doesn't mean it didn't happen to the reviewer, we're talking about the interaction between 2 human beings here, YMMV ! But normally the difference wouldn't be too far apart.

But if the review said the girl is size 6 and it turned out to be size 12, A-cup boobs reported as DD, then it's outrageous !

[project_manager006]

At $350 per hour for the girls, that gives me enough faith in the reports alone.

Bro, that's exactly the point - some of these guys doing the report are paying much less than the $350 RRP.

[strictly]

Bro, that's exactly the point - some of these guys doing the report are paying much less than the $350 RRP.

Perhaps a discount & first priority to bookings so that their positive reports will generate lots of interest/returns?

[Sextus]

Bro, that's exactly the point - some of these guys doing the report are paying much less than the $350 RRP.

Mmmm. If that happened, I guess the girl wouldn't know about it. All she'd know is that she is a $350 per hour girl. So she either loves sex, or lives up to $350 per hour value anyway. But probably she loves sex! The punter just reports what happens.

[benife]

I think everyone knows to take every report in here with a grain of salt, since everyone's preferences and choices differ quite greatly.
This would of course affect the bias of each report. The safest bet is as someone already said, take the majority rating of a girl and hope you visit her on a good day. I too think that people's attitude and mood on certain day would clearly affect their experiences and their AR.

[slarty]

I think everyone knows to take every report in here with a grain of salt, since everyone's preferences and choices differ quite greatly.
This would of course affect the bias of each report. The safest bet is as someone already said, take the majority rating of a girl and hope you visit her on a good day. I too think that people's attitude and mood on certain day would clearly affect their experiences and their AR.

I agree benife. At the end of the day that's probably all you can reply upon.




Some members instead of writing reviews to benefit others, they choose to create threads that cause controversy and cross-fighting among members, these are the behaviours that need to be weeded out for the healthy development of the forum and the industry.

Unless of course there is some substance to the ideas put forward in the controversial thread. Then those with something to hide might be tempted to label the thread starters as troublemakers. I'm sure there are also those that both contribute reliable reviews AND post controversial threads. Don't necessarily need to be one or the other.

[wilisno]

I agree benife. At the end of the day that's probably all you can reply upon.



Unless of course there is some substance to the ideas put forward in the controversial thread. Then those with something to hide might be tempted to label the thread starters as troublemakers. I'm sure there are also those that both contribute reliable reviews AND post controversial threads. Don't necessarily need to be one or the other.

That's true, this should be judged by the history of his posting, whether he's more a contributor or a troublmaker !

[catbob]

I have no problem with frequent punters to a shop or friends of the management getting discounts or other benefits - that's not a conspiracy that's just business (and as an occasional punter this don't help me)

I also expect that when a business thinks that a punter's experience might be valuable as they are likely to write a review, that the shop may encourage the ML/WL to show the customer an extra special time, at least for the big reviewers. Again, I have no evidence of this, I just suppose it should happen.

Does this mean I don't appreciate this site? It's free and the easily the best reference I have to choose where to go and who to see.

[Sextus]

the shop may encourage the ML/WL to show the customer an extra special time, at least for the big reviewers. Again, I have no evidence of this, I just suppose it should happen.

No catbob. The shop owner may think that is a good idea, but it sows the seeds for disaster. If the girl knows you are a reviewer, they can become self-conscious about it. And they think you are being detached and clinical and not seeing them as a person, but as a subject. And that is not good at all, when all you really want is genuine intimacy. Anonymity is important therefore. Which is another reason why I think the reviews are objective descriptions of what actually happens.

[Max Impact]

I agree with you entirely Sextus

[project_manager006]

Mmmm. If that happened, I guess the girl wouldn't know about it. All she'd know is that she is a $350 per hour girl. So she either loves sex, or lives up to $350 per hour value anyway. But probably she loves sex! The punter just reports what happens.

Bro, it's about the objectiveness/bias of the post, not what the girl does. You are always assuming the 100% truth in the post.

[Sextus]

I understand what you are trying to say Project manager, I just feel that, personally, receiving $350 per hour service from a girl trying to live up to her $350 per hour status, or is a hot nympho anyway, would make any bias not only irrelevant, but redundant. You know, like a tiny plastic couple on top of a big wedding cake! In other words, it is all about what the girl does.

[Judgey]

As a long time reader of this forum I have learned alot, but after reading this thread I reckon it
is about time someone noticed the elephant in the room and named Max Impact as being on the TMC payroll in some way!
Max also needs to work on his temper & tolerance issues.
Also Rooter has some explaining to do!!

[project_manager006]

As a long time reader of this forum I have learned alot, but after reading this thread I reckon it
is about time someone noticed the elephant in the room and named Max Impact as being on the TMC payroll in some way!
Max also needs to work on his temper & tolerance issues.
Also Rooter has some explaining to do!!

I like your name.

[Max Impact]

Bro, it's about the objectiveness/bias of the post, not what the girl does. You are always assuming the 100% truth in the post.

Project Manager, you always assume that reviews are often biased. Is there any proof that you have or just speculation? You insult those that punt early and spend more time writing then punting.

I'm sure that you would be more polite in real life than on this anonymous forum.

[Sextus]

As a long time reader of this forum I have learned alot, but after reading this thread I reckon it
is about time someone noticed the elephant in the room and named Max Impact as being on the TMC payroll in some way!
Also Rooter has some explaining to do!!

If that is the case Yamada needs to sack them and get a c**tin' writer with professional experience like me on the job! I want those $350 per hour girls! :D:D But I've got the feeling they don't need any bias, bugger it. But I'd like to find out! I used to write before I joined the forum, I write while I'm on it, and I'll write once I leave it. What has changed? - nothing!

[project_manager006]

Project Manager, you always assume that reviews are often biased. Is there any proof that you have or just speculation? You insult those that punt early and spend more time writing then punting.

I'm sure that you would be more polite in real life than on this anonymous forum.

Bro, I am not "always" assuming the reviews are biased.

[Max Impact]

As a long time reader of this forum I have learned alot, but after reading this thread I reckon it
is about time someone noticed the elephant in the room and named Max Impact as being on the TMC payroll in some way!
Max also needs to work on his temper & tolerance issues.
Also Rooter has some explaining to do!!

And as for you Judgey! What's your story? You just joined this forum to insult me? Well that's a compliment.

You have been here for a while and just started a new name for insults? What is your regular name.

There is not one word in any of my reviews that is not absolutely true. Would you like to describe a girl from TMC that you have seen where I was inaccurate? I pay $350 per hour each and every time, I am very polite and gentlemanly to new and nervous girls so when I was punting Yamada would offer for me to see them first. There are not many punters that can and are willing to write decent reviews and be able to see and pay for many girls, often at a few hours notice.

I had a recent poor experience (as did Rooter) with a new girl at TMC and she didn't start. I didn't ask for money back or a replacement. If they aren't up to standard then they don't start. The same happens at other agencies and shops.

What's wrong with that system Judgey?

I hope that your future posts add something positive to the forum.

[jellyshots]

Some people just don't get it. It's called having some manners. It doesn't cost anything to have good manners but you sure will get the short end of the stick if you have bad ones - on this forum and when punting.

I too, pay full price. I don't really have truly bad punts. Maybe I'm easy to please but even with the inexperienced ones, they usually have enough to get me over the line. I usually do give them tips on how to improve and let the shop owner know. I prefer not too rip into the girl on a forum that they may read. Their English isn't that good and it is easy for them to misunderstand.

Shops that mess me around though I have no sympathy for and will comment. Thankfully, since I read other reviews, I steer clear of some of the shops that seem to have questionable reviews, e.g. Happy Angels.