Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life?

[Prometheus_haha]

WLs and MLs can make a lot of money in a very short time. They sometimes spend lavishly buying all high end apparel and handbags, sometimes they gamble and sometimes they use it to travel around the world.

This lifestyle can go on for years, if they start work at 20 and work for even 5 years, that's a good 5 years of the high life.

So how do they adjust to a "normal" life if they ever want to quit? Even if they marry a rich guy, they would still need to reduce their expenditure significantly. No more new handbags every month, no more reckless gambling, and no more international trips every couple of months.

Have you ever known girls who were able to quit and live a normal life? If so how old were they and what kind of lives did they live? Or do most just try to work for as long as possible because they can't escape the lifestyle?

[Hedonisticfun]

WLs and MLs can make a lot of money in a very short time. They sometimes spend lavishly buying all high end apparel and handbags, sometimes they gamble and sometimes they use it to travel around the world.

This lifestyle can go on for years, if they start work at 20 and work for even 5 years, that's a good 5 years of the high life.

So how do they adjust to a "normal" life if they ever want to quit? Even if they marry a rich guy, they would still need to reduce their expenditure significantly. No more new handbags every month, no more reckless gambling, and no more international trips every couple of months.

Have you ever known girls who were able to quit and live a normal life? If so how old were they and what kind of lives did they live? Or do most just try to work for as long as possible because they can't escape the lifestyle?

yep , sounds like the life yet I*ve known some that despite lots of clients or even years in the business haven*t got that lavish lifestyle or even high end goods to show for their work , sadly drugs being the main downfall for most , others on their younguns and only a few on overseas travels . Same could apply to guys I*ve worked with earning heaps of overtime for years , yet gambled , boozed away or latest flash Holden / Ford (but surprisingly not Porsche or Ferrari) and still renting. Lots of money doesn*t equate to savvy business sense just a great time

[JJBlows]

WLs and MLs can make a lot of money in a very short time. They sometimes spend lavishly buying all high end apparel and handbags, sometimes they gamble and sometimes they use it to travel around the world.

This lifestyle can go on for years, if they start work at 20 and work for even 5 years, that's a good 5 years of the high life.

So how do they adjust to a "normal" life if they ever want to quit? Even if they marry a rich guy, they would still need to reduce their expenditure significantly. No more new handbags every month, no more reckless gambling, and no more international trips every couple of months.

Have you ever known girls who were able to quit and live a normal life? If so how old were they and what kind of lives did they live? Or do most just try to work for as long as possible because they can't escape the lifestyle?

just like men earning the same amount of money, they can be eveerything you listed or they could be the ones who invest wiseley so that when they go back to normal life they can get a comfortable job that pays bills etc and have hobbies etc by living off their investments.

[faruk]

just like men earning the same amount of money, they can be eveerything you listed or they could be the ones who invest wiseley so that when they go back to normal life they can get a comfortable job that pays bills etc and have hobbies etc by living off their investments.

How many 25 year old guys do you know who make WL type of money?

[themort]

I don't know about WL really because I tend to frequent massage shops more, but I've definitely known ML who meet the right guy and leave the game with no issues.

The same attributes that make them appealing MLs and make you want to come back make them great at making coffees or waiting tables.

I know one in particular who was spectacular left the game to go to a cafe and that place within a few weeks had more regulars than you could believe. Really enjoyed herself, saved up a bunch of money, took training in a whole bunch of beauty treatments and now has her own gig doing that.

And I reckon she's making more money now.

[Niceguy11]

They will never adjust to normal life. Period. The money and lifestyle is and always will be appealing to them. Many leave and try to live normal lives only to return to the industry as it’s what they have known for the many years they have been a WL or ML. I know of one WL who is dating a customer who is supporting her getting PR. She’s made it clear she will never quit. We are lucky as punters as we can move on and still live normal lives. WL’s and ML’s on the other hand will never change and that’s mostly due to the lifestyle, money, drugs or gambling

[Riff888]

I reckon if they are mentally strong enough. If they can get in and out in a few years. Then they should be okay mentally, the money if another story all together.

If in the industry 5+ years, they'll never be the same again.

Us punters as well, 5+ years and we're changed forever. I'll always punt if I'm bored, angry or frustrated etc...

[mn69]

Girls are wired differently. They will have trouble pair-bonding with just one man & sex will be meaningless.

Doesnt affect us. Us men were meant to screw as many girls as we can

Only thing that changes is we realize how readily available sex with a hot girl is if you got money

[dotcumdotinyou]

Different era girls seem to fair differently, from what I know the girls from the late 1990s to late 2000s got out and went back to their countries with nice nest eggs and have married and settled without any mental problems.
The girls after don't seem to have faired so well with many not having anything to show for their effort and with mental health problems as well.

[rooter]

can a punter return to a normal life ... ?
Yes they do, of course they do, but normality is never the same again ...

[Joun23]

Possibly, as long as they are mothers. Otherwise Nope, they simply cannot because they already had a good taste of big money with less efforts and time

[mn69]

can a punter return to a normal life ... ?
Yes they do, of course they do, but normality is never the same again ...

I cant go back to normal dating anymore bro. I didnt realize how much time & money I wasted "dating". The end game is the same. Sex.

Punting alot more faster, efficient & cheaper. I get sex with a hot girl whenever I want !!

[cometoIndia]

I cant go back to normal dating anymore bro. I didnt realize how much time & money I wasted "dating". The end game is the same. Sex.

Punting alot more faster, efficient & cheaper. I get sex with a hot girl whenever I want !!

I feel sorry for you bro for never experiencing love

[fnmfnmfnm]

Near impossible for a girl to adjust to normal life if she’s been doing it more than 5 years. The only bloke they’re willing to leave the profession for would have to be rich, and even then the girls know the truth that the guy will have others on the side, especially as she ages, if he even keeps her around for that long

[rooter]

normal life is overrated :) :) :)

[Hedonisticfun]

How many 25 year old guys do you know who make WL type of money?

Tradies now and public servants some years ago for two examples . The amount that taxpayers were funding some public servants was almost scandalous if not corrupt , had worked with a number of departments and apprentices becoming managers straight after their time managing tradespeople under new administration policies was one of the biggest farces I*d ever seen . On around $150k a year and didn*t know which way to rotate to undo a nut . Current tradies can set their own price and get it thanks to the economic shit we*re in .

[JJBlows]

How many 25 year old guys do you know who make WL type of money? its called FIFO. not as much as maybe a WL may earn but for the blokes who do the big swings like 3/1 or 5/2. you can make a shit load on money if they dont blow it all on drugs and WL in bali. i know of a fitter who was making 300K just tightening bolts in a gas plant and i know of a electrician who is a gas plant manager in PNG (does fuck all on the job) and he is on a 3/1 swing earinig 380K. most of your food and accommodation is paid for, you just have to spend for the weeks you are not on.

the WL makes a lot of money because she hardly pays tax on it,

Also the cleaning ladies who clean your rooms at the camps also run a little side hustle if you know what i mean

[Hedonisticfun]

I cant go back to normal dating anymore bro. I didnt realize how much time & money I wasted "dating". The end game is the same. Sex.

Punting alot more faster, efficient & cheaper. I get sex with a hot girl whenever I want !!

I agree with that mn . For years joined lonely hearts clubs , social groups , personal ads , even paid for introduction agencies to find a partner then finally met a potential one worthy of marriage only to find that it wasn*t the ideal one I*d imagined . At the end just I wanted sex without the dramas and really I couldn*t commit to one when there*s so much variety , I still remain friends with her but but get my satisfaction elsewhere and this forum being a great source of supply .

[JJBlows]

Tradies now and public servants some years ago for two examples . The amount that taxpayers were funding some public servants was almost scandalous if not corrupt , had worked with a number of departments and apprentices becoming managers straight after their time managing tradespeople under new administration policies was one of the biggest farces I*d ever seen . On around $150k a year and didn*t know which way to rotate to undo a nut . Current tradies can set their own price and get it thanks to the economic shit we*re in .

what fucks us is the tax that trade business have to pay, plus the running costs of a business and cost of living is why trades have to set high hourly rates. The ATO is coming down hard because covid has finished and they want "thier" money that they put on hold when covid lockdowns started and know they have come knocking

[JuneC]

My ML lives normal life during study time and sends money to family abroad. Her FB and Insta looks like she lives an extravagant life without her family know what she does! most ML are young and don't think about the future! They just think about the money and enjoyment with that money that their pussy pumps out

[Joun23]

I cant go back to normal dating anymore bro. I didnt realize how much time & money I wasted "dating". The end game is the same. Sex.

Punting alot more faster, efficient & cheaper. I get sex with a hot girl whenever I want !!

Can't agree more plus emotionally not drained

[GoldfishMan]

It's possible, but it will be a monumental effort for them.

Being a WL is a full time job. All those years doing it would be lost time to gain other skills, unless they put in the effort of having a solid backup plan at the same time. Maybe studying for a degree or learning how to start a business of some sort.

This route is probably too hard for them. I reckon that's why we see so many ex-WLs turn to low skill work that pay well if they do a good job, like becoming a realtor.

[Niceguy11]

It's possible, but it will be a monumental effort for them.

Being a WL is a full time job. All those years doing it would be lost time to gain other skills, unless they put in the effort of having a solid backup plan at the same time. Maybe studying for a degree or learning how to start a business of some sort.

This route is probably too hard for them. I reckon that's why we see so many ex-WLs turn to low skill work that pay well if they do a good job, like becoming a realtor.

The thing is that I know a few WL's that have completed their studies a few years ago and continue to work in the industry. They come to Sydney from China, do their studies and work as WL to support their studies. Once Uni is finished, they continue working in the industry and most will go down the path of getting PR through sponsorship which is not that hard.

They continue working as WL's because its all they know. Yes, they have a uni degree but the WL life has already developed into a long term thing like most of them.

[mn69]

I feel sorry for you bro for never experiencing love

Meh, I prefer to be banging as many hot girls as I can. We only have one life bro

Call me a bigot, a pessimist or whatever, but I know many guys who "fell in love". Story all ends the same way

Let me know how "love" goes once she divorces you, takes everything, gets your pension, takes the kids then drags you through family court for ongoing child support. And you cant forget about the false "abuse" accusations too

[DueNorth]

They will never adjust to normal life. Period. The money and lifestyle is and always will be appealing to them. Many leave and try to live normal lives only to return to the industry as it’s what they have known for the many years they have been a WL or ML. I know of one WL who is dating a customer who is supporting her getting PR. She’s made it clear she will never quit. We are lucky as punters as we can move on and still live normal lives. WL’s and ML’s on the other hand will never change and that’s mostly due to the lifestyle, money, drugs or gambling

I’m not sure I agree with you Mr Nice Guy. The thing that surprised me with meeting WLs and ML is just how normal and everyday they were. Also many are highly educated. The lifestyle you talk about is a bit exaggerated as the hours they work in a difficult industry means that sleeping is usually their favorite hobby.
Now of course there is a clear delineation between MLs And WLs.
MLs especially the ones I have met tend to vary their service to suit their comfort level. A BBBJ for me might be a HJ for you. (Especially if you’re hairy smelly or scary)
I’ve also met funny and thoughtful WLs.
Of course there is coercion and crime in this industry so obviously many WLs not so satisfied with there job.
This is a good thread. A lot of people genuinely care about the ladies they meet and wish them well. I’m one of them.


Saving for a better future seems to be a strong motivation.

[faruk]

Girls are wired differently. They will have trouble pair-bonding with just one man & sex will be meaningless.

Doesnt affect us. Us men were meant to screw as many girls as we can

Only thing that changes is we realize how readily available sex with a hot girl is if you got money

This is sad, but I suspect also true. I think once girls have worked in this job for too long, they become very cynical about guys and relationships in general.


It's possible, but it will be a monumental effort for them.

Being a WL is a full time job. All those years doing it would be lost time to gain other skills, unless they put in the effort of having a solid backup plan at the same time. Maybe studying for a degree or learning how to start a business of some sort.

This route is probably too hard for them. I reckon that's why we see so many ex-WLs turn to low skill work that pay well if they do a good job, like becoming a realtor.

That's a very good point that's hardly brought up. Working 5 years in this industry means a 5 year gap in their resume. When their next employer asks what they did or learnt during their time in Australia what are they going to say? When their future boyfriend or husband asks what they did during their time in Austtalia what are they going to say? You can't just brush over these things or else people become suspicious.


I’m not sure I agree with you Mr Nice Guy. The thing that surprised me with meeting WLs and ML is just how normal and everyday they were. Also many are highly educated. The lifestyle you talk about is a bit exaggerated as the hours they work in a difficult industry means that sleeping is usually their favorite hobby.
Now of course there is a clear delineation between MLs And WLs.
MLs especially the ones I have met tend to vary their service to suit their comfort level. A BBBJ for me might be a HJ for you. (Especially if you’re hairy smelly or scary)
I’ve also met funny and thoughtful WLs.
Of course there is coercion and crime in this industry so obviously many WLs not so satisfied with there job.
This is a good thread. A lot of people genuinely care about the ladies they meet and wish them well. I’m one of them.


Saving for a better future seems to be a strong motivation.

I think you're missing the point. The point is that these girls make huge amounts of money, even MLs who don't provide extras. Where else can they earn this type of money this fast? The answer is nowhere, and if they want to maintain the same level of income then they have to keep doing this job. No one wants to go backwards in salary, so it's almost like these girls have no choice.

[Joun23]

I’m not sure I agree with you Mr Nice Guy. The thing that surprised me with meeting WLs and ML is just how normal and everyday they were. Also many are highly educated. The lifestyle you talk about is a bit exaggerated as the hours they work in a difficult industry means that sleeping is usually their favorite hobby.
Now of course there is a clear delineation between MLs And WLs.
MLs especially the ones I have met tend to vary their service to suit their comfort level. A BBBJ for me might be a HJ for you. (Especially if you’re hairy smelly or scary)
I’ve also met funny and thoughtful WLs.
Of course there is coercion and crime in this industry so obviously many WLs not so satisfied with there job.
This is a good thread. A lot of people genuinely care about the ladies they meet and wish them well. I’m one of them.


Saving for a better future seems to be a strong motivation.

Have to disagree on one point. Only very few of them are highly educated. Rest just highschool or even many of them dropped highschool too.

[Joun23]

Meh, I prefer to be banging as many hot girls as I can. We only have one life bro

Call me a bigot, a pessimist or whatever, but I know many guys who "fell in love". Story all ends the same way

Let me know how "love" goes once she divorces you, takes everything, gets your pension, takes the kids then drags you through family court for ongoing child support. And you cant forget about the false "abuse" accusations too

Spot on! Cheers!

[Abracadabra]

I think it very much depends on the individual and their strength of purpose.
One well known WL I saw a few times before she retired in late 20 had a clear purpose of buying and paying off an apartment in Sydney.
She did that and promptly pulled up stumps, said goodbye and disappeared after a medium length WL career.
She had her purpose, knew what she wanted and how to get it and when she did she left and haven't heard of her in 4 years.

She was focused and smart.
Not all are like her.

[Riff888]

One girl I know did it privately at a dodgy apartment in Burwood. Lasted about 6 months, then realised people found out and then quit.
She finished her juris doctor and started as a paralegal for a Chinese law firm without PR.

Some girls are just not cut out for it.

[themort]

I think you're missing the point. The point is that these girls make huge amounts of money, even MLs who don't provide extras. Where else can they earn this type of money this fast? The answer is nowhere, and if they want to maintain the same level of income then they have to keep doing this job. No one wants to go backwards in salary, so it's almost like these girls have no choice.

No girl doing straight massage is making big money. Averaging $25 an hour or something, and these days the shops are quiet. Even ones working for tips, Post-COVID, post cost of living crisis, I really doubt there are girls pulling $10k a week like some I knew before COVID.

I think it's probably worse for WL because they can't choose who they offer what to, and establishment takes a larger slice of the money.

[jamesjj]

Probably also depends on whether they worked in a party shop. Knew a girl was clean before this industry but couldn't let that shit go, but stopped to have a baby. For a short time she claimed she was cured of meth and never wanted to work in a shop again. Not long after she was back on it and talking about a return.

[GoldfishMan]

Have to disagree on one point. Only very few of them are highly educated. Rest just highschool or even many of them dropped highschool too.

Agree with you on that. In my near 30 years punting experience, only ever met 2 girls that were really educated. One was a private, early 20s Chinese girl studying for a master degree in USyd, the other was a K girl who graduated from Macquarie Uni with a degree in data science.

The other girls I've met, some may be highly intelligent, but certainly not educated.

[Double_Adapter]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

[rubit moore]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

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[hornedbeast]

Possibly, as long as they are mothers.
You the Daddy? Lol

[mn69]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

True. Normal life = life for the average person
Anyone outside of the normal life is abnormal by definition

If you can afford to punt & travel to punt, means you are doing alot better than the average person financially. I would rather be "abnormal"

[Panerabread]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

The life you describe is the life for many people. Some people are even worse off than that. Think of the people that live in parts of Asia where there's poverty. They live in apartments not much bigger than a cubicle. Then there are those that live in ways that we would almost consider them homeless by Australian standards.

When I have travelled in parts of Asia, I saw that some older people were selling fruit and vegetables on the side of the road or similar. They must wake up everyday to do that and you assume their standard of living isn't very high.

Many people in Sydney pretty much work 9-5, 5 days per week and have the weekends off. Many are probably not slaving at work either. However, there does seem to be a lack of free time. I'm not sure if people have more free time now or three decades ago. There are so many conveniences now but it seems like people are expected to do more. Not many people have enough money where they don't need to work or can work fairly easily. The majority of people are middle class and generally have to work reasonably hard to get through life.

I'm recently going through a bit of an existential crisis. So reading your post has made me think. You do describe a fairly bleak description of life. However, let me say that many of my friends are happily married with kids and seem to live fairly wholesome lives. Their lives aren't without stress, but it seems fairly wholesome. Meanwhile I'm single and still paying for sex. It was fun years ago, but I don't really want to continue on this path now because it's an empty and lonely road. I've had gfs in the past but they weren't the right girls. I fear fucking so many WL has made me lose the ability to pair bond and also my standards are now pretty fucking high, especially with social media which seems to have rot my brain.

What I might try to do is punt to enjoy myself but not have it as a compulsion like before. That shit can't be mentally healthy.

[Panerabread]

I know a guy that met a massage girl in the shop and now they have two kids and live in Japan. There are WL that I have met in the shop and they were studying at uni and they don't work anymore, so I assume they quit and are working "regular" jobs.

One WL I know is now married after moving back to Japan. Another one got married and divorced and now has a new bf.

I think some girls can do it. I'm not sure how they can just forget all the shit they went through during their WL days. I mean that shit must be fairly traumatic but I guess some can handle it better than others. Just like some soldiers go to war and are never the same again while some probably are able to go back to civilian life and live normal lives.

[Zoobender]

The ones that are mentally strong adjust. They are just having sex for money, it's not that bad lol. They often have issues that's for sure but so does everyone else. Doctors, cops, lawyers etc all jobs have stress and impact your health and how you are with your loved ones.

The girls are fine.

[faruk]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

A normal life is one where you're not fucking 10 guys a day for money.

[fnmfnmfnm]

The ones that are mentally strong adjust. They are just having sex for money, it's not that bad lol. They often have issues that's for sure but so does everyone else. Doctors, cops, lawyers etc all jobs have stress and impact your health and how you are with your loved ones.

The girls are fine.

That’s the catch - a lot of the girls attracted to this line of work aren’t mentally strong at all. In fact, for some it’s a last resort because they’ve got nothing else.

Professions of doctors and lawyers generally require a level of intelligence, discipline and commitment to at least the study part, so it’s not really comparable to someone undertaking SW when all you literally need to do show up and open your legs.

[ditchtheboss]

I reckon they can if they have other options. I was once with a popular and long term regular of mine and she noticed I wasn’t quite right so she asked what was wrong so I said a bit of stress related to work. Her answer was, what are you stressed about? I have stress, I am getting old and have no other prospects. If they have other options I think they can adjust, if not I don’t think they will.

[Skidmark]

A lot of the girls have degrees in their own countries and or study here so they aren’t all stupid when you are on a student visa and no one will hire you because you can only work 20 hours and have limited English this is the only option I have lots of ML friends that come over to my house for parties so I hear a lot about their lives

[RLC]

A ex of mine who I found out was a WL only after we had ended (her ‘hotel’ work was not exactly as she described to me) hooked up with this guy straight after me who clearly knew she was a WL and almost 20 years on they are still married with 2 kids. Btw I am not stalking her or him, a mate contracts the odd job out to the guys company and they have the odd chat.

[Shaft]

Could anyone change profession mid stream in life?

[SmithChips]

Could anyone change profession mid stream in life?

Have had a few friends of time who did the change due to mid life crisis. All successfully transitioned. At this mid life point, money isn't as huge of a priority, so they are happy to go back being a standard employee in a complete new industry doing something they like.

[faruk]

Could anyone change profession mid stream in life?

Some people can, but they would have to be willing to take a pay cut, at least in the short term.

[Shaft]

A normal life is one where you're not fucking 10 guys a day for money.

Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. The regular punters merely flies trapped in a spider’s web. The spider feasting on and draining the fly in more ways than one.

[trampslikeus55]

Personally I know of 3 Chinese WL who got in, worked hard and got out with the money and assets they aimed for. All in less than 4 years and a now doing ok back at home. 2 married and 1 that plays for the other team and is in a relationship. Normal life. I don't think I am qualified to say what a normal life is but they are a long way down the road from were I was at 30. And yes, I have met the train wreck individual as well. Strength of character is probably the most important feature for a WL to survive the business. But that is also important for all of us to survive in whatever business we live in. 👍

[Riff888]

Then there are the girls that go from worker to owner, running a shop or a private agency.

Actually quite a few of those.

[GoldfishMan]

Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. The regular punters merely flies trapped in a spider’s web. The spider feasting on and draining the fly in more ways than one.

Very true. I guess most people would think that "normal" means to save and avoid excess when you're young, with the ultimate goal of being "safe" in retirement, ie. When you're old.

Alas, there in lies the irony. All the expensive stuff that you can enjoy are best enjoyed when you're young! Travel the world? Wear fashionable clothing? Buy expensive handbags or accessories and pair them with your expensive clothing? You will not enjoy any of that even if you can afford it when you're old.

At the end of the day, you gotta think, what is life about? Is it the number of zeroes you have in your bank account when you're on your deathbed? Or how "safe" you are, that you've got a roof over your head and a few more "just in case"?

Or is it the experiences you've had in your lifetime?

Many here keep on going at the WLs who've spent every dime that they earnt when they were at their prime and "had nothing to show" for it. I just think that just because you can't see what they've gotten materially doesn't mean they got nothing. It's all in the experiences they had.

EDIT: And I'll add one more point. It's ironic that we of all people look down on WLs who've spent every dime on experiences. We're punters, the whole point of what we do is to spend lots of money for literally "nothing to show" for it.

[Niceguy11]

Then there are the girls that go from worker to owner, running a shop or a private agency.

Actually quite a few of those.

You are right Riff. There are plenty out there that went from worker to owner.

[EQ_Boy]

Interesting thread.

I would say most can't or won't adjust to a life with a "normal" income.

A few years ago, I offered a regular ML to babysit my niece on her off day for 4 hours for $150. She said no because she wanted more. I said $37.50/hour is pretty good when babysitters normally get about $20-25/hour. She said she knew that but she still wanted more.

[carym]

If a WL / ML doesn't go from worker to owner, then statistically I think it'd be hard to go back to doing normal jobs. Mainly because normal jobs don't pay the rates they're used to. Even harder if they're accustomed to a certain lifestyle.

[themort]

When you can earn enough money here to pay off multiple houses in the home country, the time spent is still life changing even if you don't have new luxury things. You still have all that's accumulated.

Think about it if in a couple of years you could not pay rent or mortgage again, will your life every go back to how it was?

[Double_Adapter]

Interesting thread.

I would say most can't or won't adjust to a life with a "normal" income.

A few years ago, I offered a regular ML to babysit my niece on her off day for 4 hours for $150. She said no because she wanted more. I said $37.50/hour is pretty good when babysitters normally get about $20-25/hour. She said she knew that but she still wanted more.

Same could be said of punters.

How many blokes do you think could leave punting and adjust to a 'normal' sex life with their current partner especially after having pounded an assortment of 24 year olds in every position, and enjoying a lifestyle of getting their dicks sucked and their ass and balls licked?

Perhaps the question should also read - can a punter ever adjust to a normal (vanilla) sex life?

[Joun23]

That's a different question.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Same could be said of punters.

How many blokes do you think could leave punting and adjust to a 'normal' sex life with their current partner especially after having pounded an assortment of 24 year olds in every position, and enjoying a lifestyle of getting their dicks sucked and their ass and balls licked?

Perhaps the question should also read - can a punter ever adjust to a normal (vanilla) sex life?

That’s not even a remotely comparable situation haha

[mn69]

Same could be said of punters.

How many blokes do you think could leave punting and adjust to a 'normal' sex life with their current partner especially after having pounded an assortment of 24 year olds in every position, and enjoying a lifestyle of getting their dicks sucked and their ass and balls licked?

Perhaps the question should also read - can a punter ever adjust to a normal (vanilla) sex life?

No way. I cant even look at a woman over 30 years old anymore. Let alone imagine having sex with a woman over 30.

As Chris Rock once said, "men cannot go backwards sexually". "Once we get the type of sex we want, thats how the f*ck we roll" for the rest of our lives.

[mn69]

You’ve never fucked an old Chinese mum in one of Sydney’s many shops?

Nah, yuck bro. Im a young guy so maybe its why a old Chinese mum doesnt appeal to me. Maybe when I'm older. I only do the Young Chicks at Ginza/no5/42/Kyoto/Sakura

[Zoobender]

No way. I cant even look at a woman over 30 years old anymore. Let alone imagine having sex with a woman over 30.

As Chris Rock once said, "men cannot go backwards sexually". "Once we get the type of sex we want, thats how the f*ck we roll" for the rest of our lives.

You're quoting Chris rock like he knows wtf he is doing lol. He is destined to get bitch slapped his whole life bro. Kid is a simp

[11Bravo]

Depends on the demographic. Those working to support family back home (kids, parents, siblings)... I've known a number who've gone back to a normal life, though at least one didn't.

[konfuzion]

I see 3 old wl on linkedin one girl has picture say looking for work 555

[Candy1234]

I know a couple of WLs that is still working after so many times of saying they will do this job for another year, another year passed and still saying the same thing. Oh well I can’t complain, I need to unload sometimes so need them to be around lol.

From what these WLs told me that they want to send money back home to buy more properties for retirement, also send kids to good schools. Of course there’s many doing this job to buy high end goods, go to Mr B’s and you will see some familiar faces decked out in logos.

Half an hour work no tax for them is more than the average dude working 2-3 hours after tax. I guess easy money??? Kinder.

[Revenant]

Is Mr B’s the place? Another I see doesn’t want to go there for some reason, in fact she stays away from Thai town, I thought she must be too well known or has had issues or she didn’t want to be seen with me in that area. After going out in Oxford st I deliberately stopped out the front of Mr B’s for a drink with her as I thought she’d like being with the other Thais but that wasn’t the case. It was like let’s get down to Haymarket. Yeah she’s a post op, hence Oxford st and if you’re dating one you’ve gotta flaunt her.

[Zoobender]

Is Mr B’s the place? Another I see doesn’t want to go there for some reason, in fact she stays away from Thai town, I thought she must be too well known or has had issues or she didn’t want to be seen with me in that area. After going out in Oxford st I deliberately stopped out the front of Mr B’s for a drink with her as I thought she’d like being with the other Thais but that wasn’t the case. It was like let’s get down to Haymarket. Yeah she’s a post op, hence Oxford st and if you’re dating one you’ve gotta flaunt her.

LOL dating? Really? You sure?

[Revenant]

LOL dating? Really? You sure?

Yep 100% sure. The only issue was the walking down to Haymarket. I was wearing comfortable shoes navy denim jeans and she on the other hand was wearing a black halter top, skin tight navy denim jeans and tan coloured high heels and complimented with a tan coloured LV hand bag. That part of town doesn’t have great footpaths. We dressed in similar colours as she always asks what am I wearing before we meet. Out of all the girls I date she’s the best dresser, has the best make up and best hair.

[Double_Adapter]

Yes, a WL can adjust to normal life

Everyone's definition of what a normal life is supposed to be is somewhat twisted and warped

[mn69]

MR B's the Thai place isnt it.

I'd say all Thai girls. Once a WL, she will always be a WL.

This is because of the never ending demanding family back in Isaan

[Double_Adapter]

MR B's the the place isnt it.

I'd say all Thai girls. Once a WL, she will always be a WL.

This is because of the never ending demanding family back in Isaan

I know of a few old bald fat farangs that are supporting a few small villages in Chiang Mai (near a wild elephant park)

[mn69]

I know of a few old bald fat farangs that are supporting a few small villages in Chiang Mai (near a wild elephant park)

*MR B's the Thai place isnt it.

555
And the nice old bald fat Farangs are also supporting his Thai Wife's "brother".

Who is secretely her Thai boyfriend...

[Zoobender]

Yep 100% sure. The only issue was the walking down to Haymarket. I was wearing comfortable shoes navy denim jeans and she on the other hand was wearing a black halter top, skin tight navy denim jeans and tan coloured high heels and complimented with a tan coloured LV hand bag. That part of town doesn’t have great footpaths. We dressed in similar colours as she always asks what am I wearing before we meet. Out of all the girls I date she’s the best dresser, has the best make up and best hair.

So much detail, trying to build a believable narrative lil bro.

[themort]

I know of a few old bald fat farangs that are supporting a few small villages in Chiang Mai (near a wild elephant park)

You mean Lamphun, closer to Lampang... ;)

[Candy1234]

*MR B's the Thai place isnt it.

555
And the nice old bald fat Farangs are also supporting his Thai Wife's "brother".

Who is secretely her Thai boyfriend...
Yeh man, you like Asian girls especially Thai then go there. You probably bump into at least 1 WL or ML lol. I went there a few times this year ran into a few privates, luckily just a wink and smile, they somehow knew I’m with my non punting friends. Later one told me Mr B’s is now a picking up (paid) ground for white dudes lol don’t know, kinder remind me of Thailand with the 60ish old man hanging behind a 40ish old woman like her bodyguard.

[Abracadabra]

Without a doubt they can but it depends on a number of variables.
Key is how they have managed the mental and physical impacts their WL life has imparted on them often by controlling their hours and roster frequency, time away recuperating etc plus importantly, compartmentalizing their WL life from their "normal life".
But probably, the key reconciliation they need to make in order to walk away, is accepting the big money days on their back are over.

Can be done and I know of one high end WL who is now leading a "normal" life.

Also, I think I mentioned way back in this thread a WL I met in 2019 ~ great punt, saw her a few times and on the last visit she announced she was finishing in 2 weeks time : as she put it she had saved enough for a certain apartment in Sydney and she was gone..

[Revenant]

So much detail, trying to build a believable narrative lil bro.

My lil bro needs no narrative. Her top and the two pairs of CK jeans I bought her were from one of our shopping trips, they’re cheap, a couple of hundred each and if I’m dating and they want something within reason I buy it, no stress. For example she looks gorgeous and I want her staying that way, so she selects the makeup from DJs together with perfume for her and I and I willingly pay. I wouldn’t want her looking anything but hot. You have a nice car you pay to get it washed correct? No difference. Besides she hasn’t cost me a fortune and she’s not greedy. This one is more of a novelty though and that’s why I chased her. You get the detail because I think it’s in your interest to know what I get up to.

[mn69]

Yeh man, you like Asian girls especially Thai then go there. You probably bump into at least 1 WL or ML lol. I went there a few times this year ran into a few privates, luckily just a wink and smile, they somehow knew I’m with my non punting friends. Later one told me Mr B’s is now a picking up (paid) ground for white dudes lol don’t know, kinder remind me of Thailand with the 60ish old man hanging behind a 40ish old woman like her bodyguard.

Yeh bro. I love Thai women. I specifically like the ones from Isaan with the darker, more tanned skin. Exotic and sexy

Thanks for the intel. Wow, Mr B sounds like iBar and Lucifer in Pattaya. Pick up ground (paid) for Farangs/white dudes as well. Place is full of WL's and Freelancers. Our very own Thailand right in our own backyard here in Sydney.

[Candy1234]

Yeh bro. I love Thai women. I specifically like the ones from Isaan with the darker, more tanned skin. Exotic and sexy

Thanks for the intel. Wow, Mr B sounds like iBar and Lucifer in Pattaya. Pick up ground (paid) for Farangs/white dudes as well. Place is full of WL's and Freelancers. Our very own Thailand right in our own backyard here in Sydney.

Yup definitely a place you should go at least once. Don’t get me wrong, most are there to have fun on their non working time, and mostly likely minority are WL/ML. You don’t want a slap approaching the wrong one lol. I reckon cheaper and safer to just book them through a shop.

I saw the private there with her “bf” so of course I respect her privacy life, didn’t do anything to suss the dude. Who knows maybe he’s that clueless on what she does for a living and genuinely thinks she’s a “normal” girl? Either way good luck to them all.

[Hedonisticfun]

WLs and MLs can make a lot of money in a very short time. They sometimes spend lavishly buying all high end apparel and handbags, sometimes they gamble and sometimes they use it to travel around the world.

This lifestyle can go on for years, if they start work at 20 and work for even 5 years, that's a good 5 years of the high life.

So how do they adjust to a "normal" life if they ever want to quit? Even if they marry a rich guy, they would still need to reduce their expenditure significantly. No more new handbags every month, no more reckless gambling, and no more international trips every couple of months.

Have you ever known girls who were able to quit and live a normal life? If so how old were they and what kind of lives did they live? Or do most just try to work for as long as possible because they can't escape the lifestyle?

Of course they can and do . Not all are in for the high life as some punters comment , they might just be in the industry for the short term to pay off debts , provide for their kids til old enough or save for something , just have had enough of the sex industry and punters , or the sex just doesn*t do it for them. While yes , there are those that lavish the lifestyle most don*t going by the plethora of ads that only appear for a while then disappear forever WL never to be see again in any locality or country

[Niceguy11]

Without a doubt they can but it depends on a number of variables.
Key is how they have managed the mental and physical impacts their WL life has imparted on them often by controlling their hours and roster frequency, time away recuperating etc plus importantly, compartmentalizing their WL life from their "normal life".
But probably, the key reconciliation they need to make in order to walk away, is accepting the big money days on their back are over.

Can be done and I know of one high end WL who is now leading a "normal" life.

Also, I think I mentioned way back in this thread a WL I met in 2019 ~ great punt, saw her a few times and on the last visit she announced she was finishing in 2 weeks time : as she put it she had saved enough for a certain apartment in Sydney and she was gone..

Yeah its a tricky situation for the girls. We all have motives in life and I'm sure they all have reasons for doing it.

I also think about punters and if we can ever adjust to normal life. Reality is, my life is not the same as it was pre punting. Hard to explain but life is just different. Meeting girls, dating girls, arguments, all that stuff with WL's.

How can we ever forget being a punter ? Just like the old saying for smokers. Once a smoker, always a smoker. Once a punter, always a punter. No regrets ever starting but sometimes I think it would have been better that I didn't start punting. I suppose everything happens for a reason.

[Hedonisticfun]

Yeah its a tricky situation for the girls. We all have motives in life and I'm sure they all have reasons for doing it.

I also think about punters and if we can ever adjust to normal life. Reality is, my life is not the same as it was pre punting. Hard to explain but life is just different. Meeting girls, dating girls, arguments, all that stuff with WL's.

How can we ever forget being a punter ? Just like the old saying for smokers. Once a smoker, always a smoker. Once a punter, always a punter. No regrets ever starting but sometimes I think it would have been better that I didn't start punting. I suppose everything happens for a reason.

Hiya Nice , seems like you have some regrets being a punter or more likely too much of a punter . I made my decision ages ago (about 7 years ago) , first had a bit of a dabble , then met a woman I was deeply involved in after years of being single but the more I got to know her the less likley this was the ONE ... too much her way . After that went back to punting AND with a vengenace and never looked back . Freedom , getting my rocks off , no arguments or hassles . Yeah , life might of been different , married , kids but didn*t happen and just accepted it

[mn69]

Yup definitely a place you should go at least once. Don’t get me wrong, most are there to have fun on their non working time, and mostly likely minority are WL/ML. You don’t want a slap approaching the wrong one lol. I reckon cheaper and safer to just book them through a shop.

I saw the private there with her “bf” so of course I respect her privacy life, didn’t do anything to suss the dude. Who knows maybe he’s that clueless on what she does for a living and genuinely thinks she’s a “normal” girl? Either way good luck to them all.

555 it should be okay. I heard alot of Thai girls, especially the ones who travel to foreign countries have been involved in the bar scene or sex industry in one way or another. Not all, but alot !!

They probably go to Mr B's after work to get more customers. Same way the Bargirls all go to ibar after work in Pattaya to get more customers for the night.

Her "bf". More like her "sponsor". He probably does know but just looks the other way. Same way the old bald fat Farangs romances the hookers from a bar in Thailand and even marries them. And all these hookers already have a few kids from a previous Thai man (To this day, I still dont know why anyone in their right mind would do this 555)

[mn69]

I know of a few old bald fat farangs that are supporting a few small villages in Chiang Mai (near a wild elephant park)

I believe the entire Thai economy is being supported by old bald fat Farangs 555

Especially all the villages in Isaan. From Buriram all the way up to Udon Thai

[Candy1234]

555 it should be okay. I heard alot of Thai girls, especially the ones who travel to foreign countries have been involved in the bar scene or sex industry in one way or another. Not all, but alot !!

They probably go to Mr B's after work to get more customers. Same way the Bargirls all go to ibar after work in Pattaya to get more customers for the night.

Her "bf". More like her "sponsor". He probably does know but just looks the other way. Same way the old bald fat Farangs romances the hookers from a bar in Thailand and even marries them. And all these hookers already have a few kids from a previous Thai man (To this day, I still dont know why anyone in their right mind would do this 555)

Mr B’s to me is like going bird watching, see how many Coco, Yaya, Lisa, Candy, Suki, Lucy and many more I can spot in their playing environment. Lol.

Mate, are you seeing the same privates? You described them so accurately hehe. I guess it is common if the WL/ML is around 40+. So, Farang? Is that a term for something? I understand the bald fat part though… kinder feel sorry for the dudes that in that set up. You know you shouldn’t be there but too addicted to walk away. I’ve seen the gifts coming from punters, damn you guys have deep pockets. Maybe another reason not to quit the hooking, free gifts left, right and centre.

[Digby]

I saw the private there with her “bf” so of course I respect her privacy life, didn’t do anything to suss the dude. Who knows maybe he’s that clueless on what she does for a living and genuinely thinks she’s a “normal” girl? Either way good luck to them all.

What’s the demographic of the BFs?

[GoldfishMan]

Mr B's is now even more happening after they opened their new nightclub Bolt. That area used to be the smoke n poke area.

Another great place to pick up is WAO Friday nights at Ivy. Seems to be the go to place for C WLs and uni students.

The side effect of having these clubs located around Sydney CBD is there's always eye candy along George St on Friday and Saturday nights. Back when OPM was the place to be, it was concentrated more around the casino.

[Thomas Crown]

I believe many do adjust to a normal life. Or at least they plan to adjust.

There is a popular girl currently working at one of Sydney's more popular shops who wants to build a small hotel in her home country. She showed me the plans -- 12-room boutique accomodation with restaurant and bar. Looked awesome. Work is due to start soon.

Another girl in another popular shop got a little cross with me one day (a discussion about how she invests her money) and she insisted on showing me her current bank balance. Tap, tap, tap on her phone and she turned the screen to reveal a balance -- in one account -- of $570,000. She had another account for day-to-day expenses.

She said: "Once I make a million, I am leaving this work. Maybe one more year is enough."

I wonder if she will be able to stop once she reaches 7 figures in that account. How tempting it might be to stay on for another year or so and bank another 500K. And if for another year, why not another 2 years and make it an extra million?

When is it enough?

[Candy1234]

What’s the demographic of the BFs?
Well just like mn69 said “Old bald fat Farangs” lol no offence but it’s what I saw. Mainly in the 60s, assuming they are most probably established in life with a home or many homes, coins in the bank. I don’t think they are interested in “younger” guys, already doing dirt in their own lives why come here to suffer some more with a young dude without anything that benefits them? Unless you’re fortunate with rich parents.

[mn69]

Mr B’s to me is like going bird watching, see how many Coco, Yaya, Lisa, Candy, Suki, Lucy and many more I can spot in their playing environment. Lol.

Mate, are you seeing the same privates? You described them so accurately hehe. I guess it is common if the WL/ML is around 40+. So, Farang? Is that a term for something? I understand the bald fat part though… kinder feel sorry for the dudes that in that set up. You know you shouldn’t be there but too addicted to walk away. I’ve seen the gifts coming from punters, damn you guys have deep pockets. Maybe another reason not to quit the hooking, free gifts left, right and centre.

555 these Thai girls are all the same.
"Same same" as they say in Thailand.

Farang from what I been told by Thai's. Originally it meant French/White Foreigner from the old days.

But now Farang can refer to anyone who is a Foreigner (Not Thai). And most Thai's pronounce it as "Falang"


Well just like mn69 said “Old bald fat Farangs” lol no offence but it’s what I saw. Mainly in the 60s, assuming they are most probably established in life with a home or many homes, coins in the bank. I don’t think they are interested in “younger” guys, already doing dirt in their own lives why come here to suffer some more with a young dude without anything that benefits them? Unless you’re fortunate with rich parents.

I wouldn't say established. Not from what I have seen. Generally these old bald fat Farangs are lower socio-economic class labourer-council worker class type guys. Lost everything from a divorce with their Western Wives. Their kids dont talk to them. And no, these guys do not look like David Beckham, Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth either lol

So they are generally far from established. Come on now, do you really think an established man with millions/billions of dollars will be settling for a middle-aged Thai woman with kids from a previous Thai man from a poor third world country 555

Trust me, these Thai women have young Thai lovers on the side. The Farang is mainly for money. In fact, these Thai girls would go to a Thai boy bar and pay young handsome Thai guys to sleep with them. *mind blown*

[Niceguy11]

Hiya Nice , seems like you have some regrets being a punter or more likely too much of a punter . I made my decision ages ago (about 7 years ago) , first had a bit of a dabble , then met a woman I was deeply involved in after years of being single but the more I got to know her the less likley this was the ONE ... too much her way . After that went back to punting AND with a vengenace and never looked back . Freedom , getting my rocks off , no arguments or hassles . Yeah , life might of been different , married , kids but didn*t happen and just accepted it

Yeah true. I would agree that I have been punting too much. Might be best to take a break.

[Revenant]

Trust me, these Thai women have young Thai lovers on the side. The Farang is mainly for money. In fact, these Thai girls would go to a Thai boy bar and pay young handsome Thai guys to sleep with them. *mind blown*


Of course they pay young guys to pump them because the shoe is on the other foot now. They are the punter! Tell me, how many women have full time relationships with guys ten, twenty, thirty or fourty years younger than them? If you were a young handsome guy would you live with an old boiler? How long would it last? Let me guess, as long as the money lasts.

Same same but different.

[Riff888]

I believe many do adjust to a normal life. Or at least they plan to adjust.

There is a popular girl currently working at one of Sydney's more popular shops who wants to build a small hotel in her home country. She showed me the plans -- 12-room boutique accomodation with restaurant and bar. Looked awesome. Work is due to start soon.

Another girl in another popular shop got a little cross with me one day (a discussion about how she invests her money) and she insisted on showing me her current bank balance. Tap, tap, tap on her phone and she turned the screen to reveal a balance -- in one account -- of $570,000. She had another account for day-to-day expenses.

She said: "Once I make a million, I am leaving this work. Maybe one more year is enough."

I wonder if she will be able to stop once she reaches 7 figures in that account. How tempting it might be to stay on for another year or so and bank another 500K. And if for another year, why not another 2 years and make it an extra million?

When is it enough?
Tell her to be careful with that much money in banks without being able to show a proper source for that money.

Remember this?

https://www.9news.com.au/national/unexplained-wealth-police-charge-unemployed-man-after-seizing-lamborghini/06983a56-58c6-41f1-8877-9d564064b214

[stallionmachine123]

How much are these girls making ? If you pay the shop 50 for half an hour how much is the ML/WL getting?

Most of the chicks I see only work one day a week and no where else.

[11Bravo]

Just like us.

Some never retire, they are the job.

Others keep working because they have to, never had a pension fund, never had an investment plan, never kept money in the bank.

Others retire, but consult every now and again. Kills some time, picks up some pocket money.

And others retire, NEVER look back. Throw the alarm clock (dating me) in the trash. Other things to do with their time and money.
Two sides, same coin.
YMMV

[Revenant]

It’s whatever makes you happy and the moment you stop being happy change it.

[mn69]

Of course they pay young guys to pump them because the shoe is on the other foot now. They are the punter! Tell me, how many women have full time relationships with guys ten, twenty, thirty or fourty years younger than them? If you were a young handsome guy would you live with an old boiler? How long would it last? Let me guess, as long as the money lasts.

Same same but different.

*just a disclaimer though*
Not all Thai girls are like this. The ones with Farang "BF's/Husbands" are usually the poorer low class ones from Isaan. Wealthy upper class "Hi-So" Thai girls from Bangkok, are usually Chinese-Thai & almost never go out with Farangs. They stick with their own, or at most only date other Asians. Especially Handsome Korean guys coz of the K-Pop influence now.

Yes of course @Revenant. I was just explaining to brother @Candy1234 that these Thai girls arent physically attracted to old bald fat Farangs for their looks. Its transactional, for money. Then they use that money to satisfy their own need by paying young handsome Thai guys with 6 pac Abs

You cant blame them. If you seen the Farangs they are with here, and the Farangs sitting in the bars in Thailand, faaark. No offence but I have never seen so many ugly men concentrated in one place. They all look the same too & look like exact clones of each other. Old, bald and fat 555

[Niceguy11]

Tell her to be careful with that much money in banks without being able to show a proper source for that money.

Remember this?

https://www.9news.com.au/national/unexplained-wealth-police-charge-unemployed-man-after-seizing-lamborghini/06983a56-58c6-41f1-8877-9d564064b214

Good point Riff. Also, banks have to comply with KYC / AML legislation.

[11Bravo]

*just a disclaimer though*
Not all Thai girls are like this. The ones with Farang "BF's/Husbands" are usually the poorer low class ones from Isaan.
While the majority might be Isaan girls, it doesn't mean that all Isaan girls do. But that attitude is prevalent, unfortunately, especially when she's working overseas. Too many guys assume she's obviously there to work and the harassment can be severe, both at work and outside of work.

[Revenant]

You cant blame them. If you seen the Farangs they are with here, and the Farangs sitting in the bars in Thailand, faaark. No offence but I have never seen so many ugly men concentrated in one place. They all look the same too & look like exact clones of each other. Old, bald and fat 555


I had to google 555, it means pity?

People are a “product of the sum total of their ancestor’s DNA and experiences” hence a Falang can be found anywhere.

[11Bravo]

I had to google 555, it means pity?

555:
1 use in Thailand is same as LOL

Another Thai use is how WG's (or jealous Farangs) refer to mainly Japanese punters: 5 inches, 5 minutes, 5000 baht, given that, at least back when, they were known to throw money around, punting being much cheaper in BKK than Japan. There was, still is, a "Japanese" soi near Patpong, Soi Thaniya, catering to Japanese punters.

[PussyBonpensiero]

*just a disclaimer though*
Not all Thai girls are like this. The ones with Farang "BF's/Husbands" are usually the poorer low class ones from Isaan. Wealthy upper class "Hi-So" Thai girls from Bangkok, are usually Chinese-Thai & almost never go out with Farangs. They stick with their own, or at most only date other Asians. Especially Handsome Korean guys coz of the K-Pop influence now.

Yes of course @Revenant. I was just explaining to brother @Candy1234 that these Thai girls arent physically attracted to old bald fat Farangs for their looks. Its transactional, for money. Then they use that money to satisfy their own need by paying young handsome Thai guys with 6 pac Abs

You cant blame them. If you seen the Farangs they are with here, and the Farangs sitting in the bars in Thailand, faaark. No offence but I have never seen so many ugly men concentrated in one place. They all look the same too & look like exact clones of each other. Old, bald and fat 555

Seriously dude, you are obsessed! You are judging a whole lot of women based on your small sample size which is distorted by the places you have chosen to spend time in.

[Candy1234]

I wouldn't say established. Not from what I have seen. Generally these old bald fat Farangs are lower socio-economic class labourer-council worker class type guys. Lost everything from a divorce with their Western Wives. Their kids dont talk to them. And no, these guys do not look like David Beckham, Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth either lol

So they are generally far from established. Come on now, do you really think an established man with millions/billions of dollars will be settling for a middle-aged Thai woman with kids from a previous Thai man from a poor third world country 555

Trust me, these Thai women have young Thai lovers on the side. The Farang is mainly for money. In fact, these Thai girls would go to a Thai boy bar and pay young handsome Thai guys to sleep with them. *mind blown*

You got a point there, but there must be some “Farangies” out there with decent amount of coins in their pocket. Otherwise what’s the point besides PR.

Hahah yeh I agreed with your farang clone comment. Same look, maybe some with more hair than the other. Yeh it’s an eye sore sometimes, you know the girl is using the dude and the dude either so clueless or have no shame. For sure the Thai, Viet or what ever group of friends or a casual acquaintance talking crap behind his back as he stands there thinking he’s top shiet. All fun for me, people do what they need to do to be happy.

[Elbortomorton]

From personal experience I’d say yes.

My ex gf I met at a massage parlour and we were in a relationship for over 10 years.

The first couple years together she continued to work massage but eventually decided she had enough and I helped her find a new career etc etc.

Won’t get into all the details but she left me about 4 years ago to start a new relationship with her work friend lol

So yeah she adjusted to the real world but in the end she left for another dude, and this dude was cheating on his wife to get with her lol

Anyway long story short women in general are always looking to upgrade , the new guy was better off financially than me so yeah it is what it is.

Now I am free to punt with no partner at home so it’s a win win scenario for me

[chemistry84]

The men these women want wouldn't go for them after they find out she was a sex worker... And my opinion is never take a sex worker seriously because if the money ever runs low they'll revert back to normal programming and start handing out rub and tugs. Plus you wouldn't want to deal with the problems if someone ever finds our your wife/girlfriend was sucking off other men lol..

And as the rule of probabilities some will beat the odds, find men and settle down but how often do those relationships last? I think for many girls the moment they get involved in the sex industry is going to fuck up their careers. Only time I can see it somewhat working is say Japanese or Korean girls comes to AUS, makes money and then returns back home and their boyfriend/husband had no idea what they were doing in AUS. I do know however one girl at CBDstyle massage had her relationship and potential marriage called off after her partner found out she was giving BBBJs down here.

The other thing how many of them are working say at a massage parlour 5-6 days a week, getting old and finding it even more difficult finding a relationship or even a marriage? Not to mention any chances they have finding a corporate or a normal job becomes harder after getting used to quick cash with basically no tax.

[Revenant]

From personal experience I’d say yes.

My ex gf I met at a massage parlour and we were in a relationship for over 10 years.

The first couple years together she continued to work massage but eventually decided she had enough and I helped her find a new career etc etc.

Won’t get into all the details but she left me about 4 years ago to start a new relationship with her work friend lol

So yeah she adjusted to the real world but in the end she left for another dude, and this dude was cheating on his wife to get with her lol

Anyway long story short women in general are always looking to upgrade , the new guy was better off financially than me so yeah it is what it is.

Now I am free to punt with no partner at home so it’s a win win scenario for me


Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.

Can I ask a few questions? Was she nearing her useby date workwise? If you lived together did she talk shop when she got home, discuss her good or bad days. How did you cope with those discussions? Did you ever get jealous?

More importantly how was the sex and did it taper off before the split or was it always how you wanted it?

You presume~expect great sex from a sex worker and wouldn’t date one or commence a relationship if the sex wasn’t hot, correct?

[faruk]

Anyway long story short women in general are always looking to upgrade , the new guy was better off financially than me so yeah it is what it is.

Women don't love men, they love their value.


The men these women want wouldn't go for them after they find out she was a sex worker... And my opinion is never take a sex worker seriously because if the money ever runs low they'll revert back to normal programming and start handing out rub and tugs. Plus you wouldn't want to deal with the problems if someone ever finds our your wife/girlfriend was sucking off other men lol..

And as the rule of probabilities some will beat the odds, find men and settle down but how often do those relationships last? I think for many girls the moment they get involved in the sex industry is going to fuck up their careers. Only time I can see it somewhat working is say Japanese or Korean girls comes to AUS, makes money and then returns back home and their boyfriend/husband had no idea what they were doing in AUS. I do know however one girl at CBDstyle massage had her relationship and potential marriage called off after her partner found out she was giving BBBJs down here.

The other thing how many of them are working say at a massage parlour 5-6 days a week, getting old and finding it even more difficult finding a relationship or even a marriage? Not to mention any chances they have finding a corporate or a normal job becomes harder after getting used to quick cash with basically no tax.

This point often goes unnoticed. Yes, while they can make serious money working as WLs, what they are sacrificing is building a career for later on in life. When they're 40 or 50 with no reputable resume, what are they going to do for work? No matter how much savings they have they still need an income.

[Double_Adapter]

Some blokes here (eg Jamesz11, PussybonP, Reggie et al....same bloke btw) are fucken clueless and couldn't tell the difference between shit and clay, condiitioned by the system, and watching too many romcoms and disney movies they prefer to believe the lie.

Female nature is a bitch, and you just gotta know how to safely mount, ride and dismount the beast.

[Elbortomorton]

Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.

Can I ask a few questions? Was she nearing her useby date workwise? If you lived together did she talk shop when she got home, discuss her good or bad days. How did you cope with those discussions? Did you ever get jealous?

More importantly how was the sex and did it taper off before the split or was it always how you wanted it?

You presume~expect great sex from a sex worker and wouldn’t date one or commence a relationship if the sex wasn’t hot, correct?


Probably not the use by date as asians keep there youth, I’d say she had enough and was looking to the future. And I think she wanted out based on the fact of entering a relationship and then getting another job.

Never talked about work and I never asked, I guess it was just in the background, I mean a job is a job I guess.

I didn’t actually get jealous because I guess I was once the customer, I mean I know what happens there and I just didn’t really think about it, we got along well and it was a normal relationship.

Sex was always good but yes it tapered off at the end, this was most likely based on the fact of her affair with the work friend I am guessing.

The relationship basically happened because we had a connection I guess

[tezzaman18]

It just his observation. There is no harm done sharing one's experiences - just have to qualify what's said. There are similar comments made by other bros too about their visits ......


Seriously dude, you are obsessed! You are judging a whole lot of women based on your small sample size which is distorted by the places you have chosen to spend time in.

[Revenant]

Probably not the use by date as asians keep there youth, I’d say she had enough and was looking to the future. And I think she wanted out based on the fact of entering a relationship and then getting another job.

Never talked about work and I never asked, I guess it was just in the background, I mean a job is a job I guess.

I didn’t actually get jealous because I guess I was once the customer, I mean I know what happens there and I just didn’t really think about it, we got along well and it was a normal relationship.

Sex was always good but yes it tapered off at the end, this was most likely based on the fact of her affair with the work friend I am guessing.

The relationship basically happened because we had a connection I guess

Thanks for your response. I’m curious because the cart is before the horse. The sex is before the relationship and I suppose that’s one box ticked before you commenced that. If the sex was bad during the punt would you have become romantically involved?

[Elbortomorton]

Thanks for your response. I’m curious because the cart is before the horse. The sex is before the relationship and I suppose that’s one box ticked before you commenced that. If the sex was bad during the punt would you have become romantically involved?

Probably not. It is all part of the package when dating a chick right

[mn69]

I had to google 555, it means pity?

People are a “product of the sum total of their ancestor’s DNA and experiences” hence a Falang can be found anywhere.

5 in Thai is "Ha"


While the majority might be Isaan girls, it doesn't mean that all Isaan girls do. But that attitude is prevalent, unfortunately, especially when she's working overseas. Too many guys assume she's obviously there to work and the harassment can be severe, both at work and outside of work.

They are all the same. If she is from Isaan, single mother, sending money back to family. Run away fast, dont walk. Most likely has been involved and worked in the sex industry. Was previously or still is a bargirl


555:
1 use in Thailand is same as LOL

Another Thai use is how WG's (or jealous Farangs) refer to mainly Japanese punters: 5 inches, 5 minutes, 5000 baht, given that, at least back when, they were known to throw money around, punting being much cheaper in BKK than Japan. There was, still is, a "Japanese" soi near Patpong, Soi Thaniya, catering to Japanese punters.

yes. 555 = hahaha. If you have spent time in Thailand and Thai girls, you'll know this is how they message "LOL"
Definitely jealous Farangs. Japanese punters are known to have deep pockets and have more money than Farangs. Biggest spenders there. And they are the most preferred for Thai girls also. Farangs mad as the young hot Thai girls only see Japanese guys. And Korean guys.

Most old bald fat Farangs in Thailand are cheap-Charlies and broke-asses. And the Thai girls know this

[mn69]

Seriously dude, you are obsessed! You are judging a whole lot of women based on your small sample size which is distorted by the places you have chosen to spend time in.

It just his observation. There is no harm done sharing one's experiences - just have to qualify what's said. There are similar comments made by other bros too about their visits ......

Cheers. Its what I saw with my own 2 eyes while I was there. Old bald fat Farangs with ugly, older low class Thai Hookers from Isaan.

Thai girls (WL or normal) are all the same at end of the day. Just doing what they can to survive. There's a famous saying in Thailand - "Money number one".
Only difference is, high class Thai girls just aim higher and go for high net worth guys (usually other Chinese-Thai's from Business/Political families).

While Isaan girls only choice (especially if she already has kids) are the old bald fat Farangs as no Thai guy in his right mind will want a single mother with kids from another man

[Revenant]

I concur with mn69 . I’ve found if they ask “are you on holidays”? You say yes then they know you’re a “two week millionaire” and are happy to proceed. Again I never scrimp and always tip big as it’s part of the game.

Like fishing you’ve gotta put the burley out to get get what you want. The Farangs who live there are on a budget possibly a pension and that’s why the hot girls stay away from them.

[11Bravo]

I concur with mn69 . I’ve found if they ask “are you on holidays”? You say yes then they know you’re a “two week millionaire” and are happy to proceed. Again I never scrimp and always tip big as it’s part of the game.

Like fishing you’ve gotta put the burley out to get get what you want. The Farangs who live there are on a budget possibly a pension and that’s why the hot girls stay away from them.

Decades ago, internationally, I posted a WG speak translation. From what I can remember:



Where you come from?: How big is your wallet and what is your risk?


How long you stay {____}?: Can I charge you the tourist price or do I have to charge the local price?


First time {____}?: Can I take you for a ride, or do you have a clue?


Where you stay?: Confirm size of wallet, what is the travel time, and another what is the risk?


What your name? Have to call you something (though I'll probably revert to Baby, Honey, Darling...)

Myself, I ALWAYS answer "First time {___}, arrived today, come here on holiday". Fun to watch her eyes widen as she's thinking "jackpot". Then I sprinkle in some local language words, some local geographic references... just to see how long it takes for reality to register. The normal result is a poke on the arm and a GREAT time. I know the going rates, pay and tip appropriately. Throwing out a lot of bait might hook you a fish, but that shark knows she can play you... Myself, I'll skip the lead soprano and pick from the chorus... much better time and much less drama.

[mn69]

"Thai girls (WL or normal) are all the same at end of the day"

You got a real weird perspective dude. You seem angry. Look up yoga classes in your area.

Thats fine bro. You seem like you just want to troll and trying to trigger/gaslight people on here. Aint gonna work. Why dont you give us your experience/perspective too and contribute to the discussion.

I have my perspective and you have yours. Thats the beauty of diversity and free thinking. God Bless Australia !!

[11Bravo]

It just his observation. There is no harm done sharing one's experiences - just have to qualify what's said. There are similar comments made by other bros too about their visits ......


They are all the same. If she is from Isaan, single mother, sending money back to family. Run away fast, dont walk. Most likely has been involved and worked in the sex industry. Was previously or still is a bargirl.

Most old bald fat Farangs in Thailand are cheap-Charlies and broke-asses. And the Thai girls know this


Cheers. Its what I saw with my own 2 eyes while I was there. Old bald fat Farangs with ugly, older low class Thai Hookers from Isaan.

Thai girls (WL or normal) are all the same at end of the day. Just doing what they can to survive. There's a famous saying in Thailand - "Money number one".
Only difference is, high class Thai girls just aim higher and go for high net worth guys (usually other Chinese-Thai's from Business/Political families).

While Isaan girls only choice (especially if she already has kids) are the old bald fat Farangs as no Thai guy in his right mind will want a single mother with kids from another man

Well, the trouble with stereotypes (Indian, Thai, OBFF, whatever) is while the sterotypes might generally be true, you can miss some great times with some nice people if it's a blanket ban.

Single mother sending money home to family = takes care of family, whether or not she is a single mother. Much prefer the company of those than of fathers who bail on their family, ducking child support, bragging how they're scamming the government... You just never know who's sitting on that bar stool next to you. I've posted before, I have an agreement with my best mate. If I ever look like those OBFF's, sitting on beach road at noon in their wifebeater T's (as someone else pointed out, with the faded footie or ancient rock band logo), shorts, sandals, buy me a beer and a bbbj, then, that night, take the pillow and end me; THANK YOU.

I'll pass along the advice I got decades ago from an old Thai hand: if you do get involved with a Thai (or pretty much any Asian), know that you will be expected to support her kid, her parents. You might be able to draw a line with siblings, but kid, parents, no (ole Asian saying, "Repay the mother's milk"). They are FAMILY. The trick is for them to consider YOU FAMILY. Family or stepping stone - that IS the question. YMMV

[MrSeven]

I thii oh habits they’d sex life and relationships that end up suffering moreso and can’t be undone

[gpav]

The sister in laws fought over washing my feet.

[vitamin]

What do you Think happens once they stop working?.

They just move on. get other jobs. get boy friends become wives.

Think of all the girls in Sex industry around the world. When have you ever met a woman in her 40's and been like yup. Previous WL.

Just like of the thousands of men you meet in your lifetime. You can never really pick out who's a regular punter and who is boy scout clean.

Few years back when I was friends with a mamasan just chatting at coffee shops around Stratty. So often she'll say high and chat up with random Korean girls who are all completely normal with boyfriends, going to school, doing cosmetic procedures. And then say afterwards previous WL.

[GoldfishMan]

No idea why you guys keep responding to this guy. So insincere with all his alt accounts and fake stories, you might as well be responding to a brain in a vat. In person, may be you can call it human interaction, but on an anonymous forum on the internet? It's just a brain in a vat...

[Revenant]

Adjusting to a normal life at a hypothetical age of fifty. For starters what guy is going to want to start a relationship with a fifty year old woman?

When I was twenty I banged a fifty year old milf. She had five shops in HK a boat in the harbour with full time captain and plenty of large diamonds on her fingers. The attraction was pumping a good looking older woman, a box ticked, that was it. Then I dropped her.

If she didn’t have money, looked the part and was very well kept I’d have never gone that far in the first place. She had a son my age even.

So how on earth is a woman who is fifty or thereabouts going to get a guy and hold onto him unless she’s got something he wants?

Men can pick and choose, women ?

[Jamez11]

Some blokes here (eg Jamesz11, PussybonP, Reggie et al....same bloke btw) are fucken clueless and couldn't tell the difference between shit and clay, condiitioned by the system, and watching too many romcoms and disney movies they prefer to believe the lie.

Female nature is a bitch, and you just gotta know how to safely mount, ride and dismount the beast.

Mate all you do is watch YouTube weirdo’s who make money off weirdo’s like you by getting dopamine hits seeing them reacting to intagram/tiktok videos of tarts…You base your entire perspective of women on wannabe weirdo alpha’s and sex workers…

Have you’ve ever considered you’re the problem and not female nature?

[Double_Adapter]

Mate all you do is watch YouTube weirdo’s who make money off weirdo’s like you by getting dopamine hits seeing them reacting to intagram/tiktok videos of tarts…You base your entire perspective of women on wannabe weirdo alpha’s and sex workers…

Have you’ve ever considered you’re the problem and not female nature?

Ouch....must have hit a raw nerve

[Jamez11]

Classic wannabe alpha, wouldn’t even answer my question.

[Zoobender]

We should rename this forum to where is Vinnie... Like where is wally but instead of being one small picture to find the entire page is profiles of Vinnie and you have to find the 4 non brain dead punters instead. It's harder than you think so far I got Me, Goldman fish and James... 80% of this thread is Vinnie talking to himself.

What a brain dead Muppet. This is what being breastfed into your 50s does to you

[Revenant]

Your posts make me tired Zoobender, almost sleepy. Besides supposition and a piss poor punchline what else have you got up your sleeve?

[ColesBag]

Did you ever take that bus I suggested Vinnie to check out the scenery in order to reflect on your life choices?

[Revenant]

My glass is always more than half full ColesBag. My life choices… let’s see, I get to do what I want when I want and that’s all that matters. You no doubt are a slave to something…

[ColesBag]

My glass is always more than half full ColesBag. My life choices… let’s see, I get to do what I want when I want and that’s all that matters. You no doubt are a slave to something…

It's like dealing with a labratory rat with you Vinnie. Thanks for confirming. Carry on.

[Revenant]

It's like dealing with a labratory rat with you Vinnie. Thanks for confirming. Carry on.

I literally have twenty other forums I can be on right this very minute and they all beg my attention just like you do ColesBag.

Confirming that I’m doin’ fine, yep 100% doing that.

[pocket rocket]

Your posts make me tired Zoobender, almost sleepy. Besides supposition and a piss poor punchline what else have you got up your sleeve?

Zoobender's one-liners / punchlines are generally really fucking funny, genuinely humorous, they are not PC or fucking woke shit ,,,

Any single one of Zoobender's punchlines is funnier (and more intelligent) than your combined efforts at humour will be over your entire lifetime ........

[ColesBag]

I literally have twenty other forums I can be on right this very minute.

Ah yes the 500,000 posts brag now I remember. Gee Vinnie, your life hasn't gotten any more fulfilling since about 10 accounts back champ.

[Candy1234]

This is the Sibon guy? I haven’t been active in a while. I remember Sibon and some Warwick dude fighting all the time. All banned? cuteguy gone too?

[Revenant]

Ah yes the 500,000 posts brag now I remember. Gee Vinnie, your life hasn't gotten any more fulfilling since about 10 accounts back champ.

It’s great see Vinnie’s posts ARE still remembered and shouldn’t you be concerned about your own life instead of others or isn’t it that important?


Zoobender's one-liners / punchlines are generally really fucking funny, genuinely humorous, they are not PC or fucking woke shit ,,,

Any single one of Zoobender's punchlines is funnier (and more intelligent) than your combined efforts at humour will be over your entire lifetime ........

Sticking up for lil bro pocket warmer? My jokes are wasted here, pity for you, not really.

[Zoobender]

Hello zoobender!

Hello cunt face

Fyi I joined in 2022 and PR has been here since 2013. So we aren't the same person clown.

Also respect your elders you TWAT. PR is OG on this forum

[Zoobender]

Zoobender's one-liners / punchlines are generally really fucking funny, genuinely humorous, they are not PC or fucking woke shit ,,,

Any single one of Zoobender's punchlines is funnier (and more intelligent) than your combined efforts at humour will be over your entire lifetime ........

You sound like a smart dude PR.

[ColesBag]

This is what being breastfed into your 50s does to you

I lol'd. Describes Vinnie perfectly.

[Digby]

Editing a user join date:

https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/main/users_add

[Zoobender]

It was a joke dude, because pockrocket was overly complimentary (no wonder you think he sounds smart) and you keep falsely accusing me of being Vincent.

Sucks having to explain when it goes over your head.
And is he older than me? Who knows?

Sincerely,

cunt face

It didn't go over my head. As a joke it wasn't funny because you have lied many times on this forum so people don't believe what you say. Have you read the Boy who cried wolf?

Well you are the old cunt with no friends who cried mummy. I've been trying to help you and guide you the last few months, yes I've been harsh, yes I've been mean. But it's what you need Vinnie. I'm not your mum I don't have to pretend to accept your bullshit, and neither do the other members.

Pull your head in and contribute with real feedback and reviews. And soon you will have the ultimate hand, when I say something against you other members will leap to your defence and say that you have been contributing and that day my work will be done. I am your messiah and you are my naughty boy.

[tonystark]

I think it's case by case. Some working ladies (WL) consistently go to work and are determined to save money, with the goal of opening their own shop, like a coffee shop or nail salon. On the other hand, some spend recklessly and end up ruining their lives.

[Zoobender]

Well you took it pretty seriously. And the fact that you still think I'm vincent is a serious reflection of your intelligence. You also seem to have have a god complex.

I don't lie and I don't need defending zoolander.

I take my work to turn you into a real man seriously. You have much to learn Vincent..but fear not

For I will be your father figure
Put your tiny hand in mine
I will be your preacher teacher
Anything you have in mind (but none of that gay shit you mummies boy)

You heard right Vincent. I'm taking you under my wing...son.

[machida1]

I came across this WL's private life after doing a bit of digging and I have always kept this to myself. But her situation is giving me a bit of anxiety just thinking about it. I found out she has a husband and daughter in her normal life. She claims she works at a legitmate company, her partner is doing above average income. She does PSE and threesomes quiet often. One of the best. But what gets me is how she can adjust and act normal at home every night she comes home to her family after doing like 10 clients a day. She lives here locally and has a few properties to her name also. She doesn't need the money but i think she is just a sex addict. Imagine your wife and mum is an active WL and you dont even know it.

[urmumsurdad]

I came across this WL's private life after doing a bit of digging and I have always kept this to myself. But her situation is giving me a bit of anxiety just thinking about it. I found out she has a husband and daughter in her normal life. She claims she works at a legitmate company, her partner is doing above average income. She does PSE and threesomes quiet often. One of the best. But what gets me is how she can adjust and act normal at home every night she comes home to her family after doing like 10 clients a day. She lives here locally and has a few properties to her name also. She doesn't need the money but i think she is just a sex addict. Imagine your wife and mum is an active WL and you dont even know it.

Yeah I know one similar to what you've said. If you look it at that way, it does feel a bit weird after the session hey? for me at least, i kind of feel bad afterwards lol

[rooter]

I think anyone who for any period of time in their life does something out of the ordinary -WL, backpacker, athlete, biker, musician, pimp, political activist, drifter, artist, poker player, magician, digital nomad whatever has issues going to a so called normal life after that. But better to have lived that unconventional life and then having issues adjusting than to never have lived that life at all ... enjoy!
Fuck the boring conventional bastards. Boring cunts

[11Bravo]

I came across this WL's private life after doing a bit of digging and I have always kept this to myself. But her situation is giving me a bit of anxiety just thinking about it. I found out she has a husband and daughter in her normal life. She claims she works at a legitmate company, her partner is doing above average income. She does PSE and threesomes quiet often. One of the best. But what gets me is how she can adjust and act normal at home every night she comes home to her family after doing like 10 clients a day. She lives here locally and has a few properties to her name also. She doesn't need the money but i think she is just a sex addict. Imagine your wife and mum is an active WL and you dont even know it.

Now WHY would you do some digging? How is her lifestyle ANY business of yours? Why are YOU anxious about HER life? HER FAMILY? What she tells them? How is that ANY of YOUR concern? How do you know she doesn't need the money? Did you run a property check on the properties? No mortgages. No liens? No loans against? Not bothered with the increase in interest rates? For me, it's NONEYA...

And before the boys pile on, how would you feel if a provider did a little digging into your life? Maybe she's curious? Morbid curiosity? Or... blackmail? Should she be anxious that you're cheating on your partner, that you're just popping out to run an errand, telling lies to your partner and offspring? Two sides, SAME coin.

[Zoobender]

Oh shit! I just realised you're Vincent!

And please stop having gay thoughts about me and wanting to be my "daddy".

Well I fucked your mum so that technically makes me her daddy and yours by association.

[Zoobender]

Now WHY would you do some digging? How is her lifestyle ANY business of yours? Why are YOU anxious about HER life? HER FAMILY? What she tells them? How is that ANY of YOUR concern? How do you know she doesn't need the money? Did you run a property check on the properties? No mortgages. No liens? No loans against? Not bothered with the increase in interest rates? For me, it's NONEYA...

And before the boys pile on, how would you feel if a provider did a little digging into your life? Maybe she's curious? Morbid curiosity? Or... blackmail? Should she be anxious that you're cheating on your partner, that you're just popping out to run an errand, telling lies to your partner and offspring? Two sides, SAME coin.

This is really creepy... Especially if it's creeping you out.

[Digby]

Burley, simply put, is any bait item thrown or deployed into the forum without validation in the hope of catching someone out.

[GoldfishMan]

I came across this WL's private life after doing a bit of digging and I have always kept this to myself. But her situation is giving me a bit of anxiety just thinking about it. I found out she has a husband and daughter in her normal life. She claims she works at a legitmate company, her partner is doing above average income. She does PSE and threesomes quiet often. One of the best. But what gets me is how she can adjust and act normal at home every night she comes home to her family after doing like 10 clients a day. She lives here locally and has a few properties to her name also. She doesn't need the money but i think she is just a sex addict. Imagine your wife and mum is an active WL and you dont even know it.

Well, I guess that answers the question on this thread once and for all.

[ColesBag]

I came across this WL's private life after doing a bit of digging and I have always kept this to myself. But her situation is giving me a bit of anxiety just thinking about it. I found out she has a husband and daughter in her normal life. She claims she works at a legitmate company, her partner is doing above average income. She does PSE and threesomes quiet often. One of the best. But what gets me is how she can adjust and act normal at home every night she comes home to her family after doing like 10 clients a day. She lives here locally and has a few properties to her name also. She doesn't need the money but i think she is just a sex addict. Imagine your wife and mum is an active WL and you dont even know it.

* Why are you digging into a W/L's private life? The idea is to fuck them then leave and believe me they want you to.
* A woman liking sex. How dare she.
* Few properties, sounds like one of the few W/L's that know how to manage their money. Good for her.

Point being, maybe the problem is you. Don't stalk, it's creepy. Enjoy your time with her then go back to your own life.

[Zoobender]

Lol, are you 12 years old Vincent?

You think your mum likes fucking 12 year olds Vinnie? This comment reveals alot about you.

[DanM]

While this thread seems to have slightly disintegrated, I do think the original question is interesting.

I have some personal experience with this after I dated an aussie WL for a little while, and I'm also friends with a few people who are/were active workers.

The girl I dated was never a 'normal person', she was a huge stoner and ADHD etc and would never have been able to hold down a 9-5. She was also a legit nympho who had fucked a lot of people before getting into the industry so it just worked for her. She (like most workers) wasnt a freak or weirdo, was just an average person mostly. Liked to do crafts and paint in her free time. Definitely some family issues and personality problems, but not that much more than a lot of civilian girls out there.

I know a couple of ex-workers and I will say it does seem a bit difficult to go from being in the industry to being completely outside of it. A lot of the girls have circumstances like chronic illness or drinking/weed (or others) problems and find it tough in other industries. And I know one girl who got outed at a normal job and had to quit.

But really, as a punter and a personal friend of workers, it seems pretty obvious that sex work is just a job. And like any job, there are some people who can only do that job and others who are just at the desk for a little while and never think about it again. Might be a bit harder to transition out of than most professions but not like, a herculean effort.

[hornybastard123]

Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life

What the fuck is a normal life?

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.

Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.

So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.

As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!

Just bumping this thread to say: well fucking said

[awesomeguys]

It's tough, once you've tasted money, it's like a drug.

[Smolex]

While this thread seems to have slightly disintegrated, I do think the original question is interesting.

I have some personal experience with this after I dated an aussie WL for a little while, and I'm also friends with a few people who are/were active workers.

The girl I dated was never a 'normal person', she was a huge stoner and ADHD etc and would never have been able to hold down a 9-5. She was also a legit nympho who had fucked a lot of people before getting into the industry so it just worked for her. She (like most workers) wasnt a freak or weirdo, was just an average person mostly. Liked to do crafts and paint in her free time. Definitely some family issues and personality problems, but not that much more than a lot of civilian girls out there.

I know a couple of ex-workers and I will say it does seem a bit difficult to go from being in the industry to being completely outside of it. A lot of the girls have circumstances like chronic illness or drinking/weed (or others) problems and find it tough in other industries. And I know one girl who got outed at a normal job and had to quit.

But really, as a punter and a personal friend of workers, it seems pretty obvious that sex work is just a job. And like any job, there are some people who can only do that job and others who are just at the desk for a little while and never think about it again. Might be a bit harder to transition out of than most professions but not like, a herculean effort.

If anything most of the former WL I know have extremely ordinary lives by this point. Kids, husband, maybe went to study and got a job in that field. It was difficult for most of them to leave the industry even when they really wanted to just because it was at least initially a significant drop in income and with that a somewhat more humble quality of life, but if I were to ask any of them they'd all say they're living their best years so far right now.

[rooter]

We all want to be different, and we all want to be the same ...

[11Bravo]

- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.
If this is your life, you do know who to blame, right? (Hint: look in the mirror). Same answer as the SW who, when asked the price, says, Up to you.


If anything most of the former WL I know have extremely ordinary lives by this point. Kids, husband, maybe went to study and got a job in that field. It was difficult for most of them to leave the industry even when they really wanted to just because it was at least initially a significant drop in income and with that a somewhat more humble quality of life, but if I were to ask any of them they'd all say they're living their best years so far right now.
Same for those I still know after decade+. The others who dropped contacts over the years, I figure just moved on, got on with life, as do we all.

[Jack-Jack]

While this thread seems to have slightly disintegrated, I do think the original question is interesting.

I have some personal experience with this after I dated an aussie WL for a little while, and I'm also friends with a few people who are/were active workers.

The girl I dated was never a 'normal person', she was a huge stoner and ADHD etc and would never have been able to hold down a 9-5. She was also a legit nympho who had fucked a lot of people before getting into the industry so it just worked for her. She (like most workers) wasnt a freak or weirdo, was just an average person mostly. Liked to do crafts and paint in her free time. Definitely some family issues and personality problems, but not that much more than a lot of civilian girls out there.

I know a couple of ex-workers and I will say it does seem a bit difficult to go from being in the industry to being completely outside of it. A lot of the girls have circumstances like chronic illness or drinking/weed (or others) problems and find it tough in other industries. And I know one girl who got outed at a normal job and had to quit.

But really, as a punter and a personal friend of workers, it seems pretty obvious that sex work is just a job. And like any job, there are some people who can only do that job and others who are just at the desk for a little while and never think about it again. Might be a bit harder to transition out of than most professions but not like, a herculean effort.

very nice post and interesting insights

i know of and have seen ML and WL outside the shop and really respect those with goals on how much to earn and save to get out of the business

whether that be funding school and degree to work a normal job or getting some cash to open a shop and pursue a dream of theirs like a cafe or flower shop....

then there are those that like brag how much they spend their money on stuff that does nothing but harm you body and kinda in it for the job to make quick easy bucks and ur like cool u do u and best of luck ....

i agree and relate to this "Might be a bit harder to transition out of than most professions but not like, a herculean effort."

[Jack-Jack]

If anything most of the former WL I know have extremely ordinary lives by this point. Kids, husband, maybe went to study and got a job in that field. It was difficult for most of them to leave the industry even when they really wanted to just because it was at least initially a significant drop in income and with that a somewhat more humble quality of life, but if I were to ask any of them they'd all say they're living their best years so far right now.

nice message/insight and very heart warming to hear in this line of business and good on them

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[Digby]

How many have a husband/partner that knows what they do?

[11Bravo]

How many have a husbsnd/partner that knows what they do?

Probably about the same ratio as punters' wives who know what their husbands do when they're out running an errand. Myself, I think "not my business".

Likewise, past history is just that, PAST history, for both parties. It's all about the future...

[Digby]

Past histories, what about a hypothetical current situation?
Previously a punter mentioned he dug into a WL’s background. Say for example she’s dated a punter on this forum and intends continuing. She secretly works as a WL, is cheating on her husband, is having at least one affair on the side and now as you say “it’s all about the future”…

[11Bravo]

Past histories, what about a hypothetical current situation?
Previously a punter mentioned he dug into a WL’s background. Say for example she’s dated a punter on this forum and intends continuing. She secretly works as a WL, is cheating on her husband, is having at least one affair on the side and now as you say “it’s all about the future”…

Short answer:
NOT MY BUSINESS. NONEYA.

Long answer:
To me, it seems that there's this morbid curiosity/concern by some about other's past history. Are you going to have that same attitude when your partner/spouse/intended/gf is inquiring about YOUR past history?



"Oh, yea, babe, I was a BIG punter, out and about, paying women for sex for my own pleasure. But don't worry, won't be doing that anymore, that's in the past. Believe me, no need to be checking up on me."


"Sir, Mrs, so nice to meet you; your daughter is just a wonderful girl. I'm sure I can take care of her because I won't be out spending money on whores anymore. That budget item is closed. Don't even think about it."

I'm sure you'll be having THAT conversation.

Two sides, same coin. And, for me, there's a difference when it's a job, bringing in the coin for family, and an indulgence, spending that coin. Past is the past. I judge by future behavior IF IT CONCERNS ME. But that's just me. YMMV.

[Digby]

How can you trust a person without knowing their background or base an assessment on it? You yourself said you did risk assessment for a living.

Out of all the guys you know 11Bravo who have paired with a WL or ML into a relationship how many have made a go of it percentage wise? I personally know of four and they’ve all failed.

They say dreams hold meaning. This morning I dreamt I was cheated on by a WL and for some reason the guy was Italian. It’s enough to throw a spanner in the works as far as she is concerned. Call me silly, stupid, a follower of old wives tails or maybe it’s intuition but it’s now presented a hurdle that she’ll have to cross over.

I’m not even the jealous type but TRUST is my main priority. If you cannot trust how can you follow through?

[Zoobender]

How many relationships with non WL work? This forum is filled with people from failed relationships.

[DayMan69]

Really interesting thread. Apart from the Vinnie bollocks.

I guess I've known a few girls over the last 20 years and if I think about some regulars, all is hopefully good for our beloved WLs & MLs.

I think the general success proviso is to be a foreign girl here for a few years and back home with a decent swag in the local currency.

Girl 1. A favourite for many years, now runs two shops and last i spoke had built her parents a house, bought them a car and was building a shop/apt on top income provider back home. Kudos.

Girl 2. Now has a husband and two little kids, lives a 'normal' Sydney housewife life and helps out in hubby's business. Great girl and i wish her well in life.

Girl 3. Had already bought 3 apts back home by the time i met her. China though, so i don't know how that's gone.

Girl 4. Used to show me pics of progress on the build of her boutique hotel on an island in Thailand. I visited on a 'dive trip' about 3 years ago and we had dinner and a night out. Charged me full freight on the room, but. Lol.

Girl 5. In sydney but is now studying for her Masters in a difficult arena. In a second language ffs! Works a civvy job 3 days a week but does massage 2 days to pay education bills and is buying out her parents business back home. She'd prefer to stay here, but that's difficult now and the business back home is her Plan B.

All in all, awesome stories and i hope an indicator for a high percentage of working girls from foreign climes. But... my bet is that most won't make a relationship work, here or back home. I think seeing 5-10 cocks a day and hearing every bullshit story from every guy they come across must basically turn them off men in general.

As for old, bald, fat farangs in Thailand, I think it's a win-win. Back home he'd be reduced to grumpy, desparate, middle-aged 3s. Otherwise known as the wife. In Thailand he's banging a decent 6 or 7 who is likely not viable for a Thai guy cos she's older or has a kid. He gets a little 'love' from a reasonable looking gal, she gets money for her and her family. A relationship at its heart anywhere is transactional and this a good one for both I think. Who knows, it may even last. So long as the bloke protects his assets properly it's all good.

[Revenant]

I think seeing 5-10 cocks a day and hearing every bullshit story from every guy they come across must basically turn them off men in general.


Look, a WL went on to tell the other WLs during a multigirl session that I owned a private jet. Now that was something and totally unexpected. Some women are gullible even if the story is told by one of their work colleagues. Of course I denied it and I don’t know what prompted her to say such a thing but I’d say they bullshit to each other over guys and there is most definitely competition between themselves.

The whole punting experience is a fantasy. I think once you walk into a room they and you are both actors, the bed a stage you both perform on and that peer reviews are sometimes written. Certainly a lot of the action is mulled over in General Talk. I often wonder what the SWs say about the punters? Now that would be interesting.

[11Bravo]

How do you judge FUTURE behaviour? Point taken.

Replace FUTURE with CURRENT, then reparse.

[JJBlows]

It depends on the girl and her goals.

I've come across one who is young, free spirited and enjoys the high life but is happy to have a boyfriend but the guy has to understand that he should be in it for fun and not be long term.

I've come across one who doesn't like the job but does it to set her self up quickly. She wants to get married, have kids but unfortunately is giving up on that dream because she is sick of being used and abused by men tricking her into a relationship but would happily settle down for a good man even if he doesn't earn that much

Another.does this job because her BF got her pregnant, got arrested and is doing a long stint in jail and she has a mouth to feed just like how many men here are stuck in shit but high paying job due to wife, kids and mortgage.

It depends on the girl

I think this post of men asking if a woman can adjust to normal life are the men who are jaded and jealous from trying to impress the young hot fit girl who makes bank but she isn't interested in a old 50 year old man. so there is that underlying bitterness of giving gifts and tips to her but not really getting something back in return.

It's could also be some men that are older are reminded of their long gone youth that they see in these girls. (Youth, fun, free time, money to spend on what ever, travel where ever no commitments to anyone or anything like wife kids etc )

[11Bravo]

It depends on the girl

I think this post of men asking if a woman can adjust to normal life are the men who are jaded and jealous from trying to impress the young hot fit girl who makes bank but she isn't interested in a old 50 year old man. so there is that underlying bitterness of giving gifts and tips to her but not really getting something back in return.
Certainly seems like some have a tone of wanting the girl to fail, can't believe she'd be able to go back to a normal life, normal relationships.

I think, for the most part, they can. Just like how a combat vet can go back to civilian life. Some can't, most can. Humans are resilient. Past is history, the future beckons.

[JJBlows]

Certainly seems like some have a tone of wanting the girl to fail, can't believe she'd be able to go back to a normal life, normal relationships.

I think, for the most part, they can. Just like how a combat vet can go back to civilian life. Some can't, most can. Humans are resilient. Past is history, the future beckons.

Wanting the girl to fail? 100% it's this when he realises he spent a fuck tonne on her and he ain't getting anywhere further or extra with her outside of that punting environment and how he copes is to say they she is now greedy only wants that lifestyle and will be stuck doing that for the rest of her life and end up being a old hag at a $150 shop.

[hornybastard123]

Wanting the girl to fail? 100% it's this when he realises he spent a fuck tonne on her and he ain't getting anywhere further or extra with her outside of that punting environment and how he copes is to say they she is now greedy only wants that lifestyle and will be stuck doing that for the rest of her life and end up being a old hag at a $150 shop.

Yeah, I'm not sure where this 'holier than thou' attitude comes from as if they are saints that have never done wrong by anyone else and has graced this world with their presence alone, yet failing to realize they are just as 'degenerate' as the WLs and other punters. In fact, I would argue that the punter would be the 'bigger POS' in the dynamic between WLs and punters. Let's be real here, you're compelling someone to fuck you by paying for it, she ain't there for the fun of it.

Maybe judging yourself as a 'higher level of being' is one way to cope with the suffering and misery of one's existence.

[JJBlows]

Yeah, I'm not sure where this 'holier than thou' attitude comes from as if they are saints that have never done wrong by anyone else and has graced this world with their presence alone, yet failing to realize they are just as 'degenerate' as the WLs and other punters. In fact, I would argue that the punter would be the 'bigger POS' in the dynamic between WLs and punters. Let's be real here, you're compelling someone to fuck you by paying for it, she ain't there for the fun of it.

Maybe judging yourself as a 'higher level of being' is one way to cope with the suffering and misery of one's existence.

Me personally i dont think It's a "holier than thou" attitude, it's a response to rejection.

some men out there simply think that by flashing their cash and spending it on a woman (wl or not) with lavish gifts or large tips is how you attract a female partner and they think all woman are like that, but when you have so much money and she still can't feel like she can't connect with you and dumps you, some blokes instantly think she was only here for the money not realising she couldn't talk to you etc (all that other bullshit in normal relationships). But she also could be a gold digger and you have only yourself to blame.

Now this in a WL situation, the girl is here to make money off you, you spend money on her even though she's not interested in you, you feel rejected and you automatically place her in the same category as "all woman" in the scenario I mentioned above when punting is a different dynamic.

That's why I never ever ever tip a ML or WL extra because some guys do and only fuck it up for themselves in the future "maybe if I show her I'm rich and generous maybe she will like me" .......dude your fucking 50 with a belly and she's in her 20's and fit as fuck like seriously you are playing yourself and she doesn't even have to try.

Not all WL want your money in order to like ya, because I ain't rich but I have been pampered by some girls, but I have come across some very very greedy girls

[hornybastard123]

Me personally i dont think It's a "holier than thou" attitude, it's a response to rejection.

some men out there simply think that by flashing their cash and spending it on a woman (wl or not) with lavish gifts or large tips is how you attract a female partner and they think all woman are like that, but when you have so much money and she still can't feel like she can't connect with you and dumps you, some blokes instantly think she was only here for the money not realising she couldn't talk to you etc (all that other bullshit in normal relationships). But she also could be a gold digger and you have only yourself to blame.

Now this in a WL situation, the girl is here to make money off you, you spend money on her even though she's not interested in you, you feel rejected and you automatically place her in the same category as "all woman" in the scenario I mentioned above when punting is a different dynamic.

That's why I never ever ever tip a ML or WL extra because some guys do and only fuck it up for themselves in the future "maybe if I show her I'm rich and generous maybe she will like me" .......dude your fucking 50 with a belly and she's in her 20's and fit as fuck like seriously you are playing yourself and she doesn't even have to try.

Not all WL want your money in order to like ya, because I ain't rich but I have been pampered by some girls, but I have come across some very very greedy girls

Hmm maybe you're right. Yeah, you can't really buy love with money, no matter if it's a WL or not.

These older folk, they must be extremely lonely to resort to this kind of pandering... Or they've never experienced actual love before and that's real depressing.

Yeah, there's gonna be gold diggers everywhere but can you really blame them?
Making money these days is not easy especially with many of the opportunities drying up even for legit industries that used to hire + pay like crazy.
There's a reason why there's so many young Japanese girls working as WLs. How else are you going to make any decent amount of money without slaving away at some bullshit retail/fast food job?

[PKING2]

Don’t fight among yourself brothers! Deep down all of us punters know. Heart doesn’t belong in this kind of situation.

1. If you feel not good, after hearing a sad story from SW and feel guilty to take advantage of her. It means GOOD, you are still have hope not like the rest of us here. Cling to that feeling, and stop punting. World outside is huge, who knows , maybe you will find someone that can heal your heart sooner than you think.

2. If you feel nothing, after hearing a sad story from SW. It means you similar like ME. So continue what you doing without regret. We know our heart somewhat broken. What WE can do is trying not to be an *asshole* with SW in the room. At least show the dignity that we are men. Show them consideration and respect and be kind to her. If she said she quitting. Congrats them and give them hope, that she will have a better job and life than this.

3. If you are the *asshole* like the one who hurts the girl. Like choking the girl until her neck has marks. Insert your thumb to girls butt until she bleeding. Cum inside her when she pussy sliding you without telling her. Stealth BB her without her consent. Sorry Bro if you the one in this category, there is no hope for you. Better check to a psychiatrist.

[11Bravo]

Hmm maybe you're right. Yeah, you can't really buy love with money, no matter if it's a WL or not.

These older folk, they must be extremely lonely to resort to this kind of pandering... Or they've never experienced actual love before and that's real depressing.

Oh, I'd say us (you say old, I say mature) folks have a much better chance of understanding the difference between sex and love. It's the younguns, without a solid life foundation, that tend to confuse the two and go off the deep end.

As to those not accepting the provider moving on, I think JJBlows is spot on:

Wanting the girl to fail? 100% it's this when he realises he spent a fuck tonne on her and he ain't getting anywhere further or extra with her outside of that punting environment and how he copes is to say they she is now greedy only wants that lifestyle and will be stuck doing that for the rest of her life and end up being a old hag at a $150 shop.
AKA "sour grapes" (showing my age, having grown up with Aesop's fables). Trouble happens when older/mature want to relive their glory days and don't accept the fact that she doesn't necessarily share the fantasy outside of work hours. As long as you accept that the great providers are great actresses, playing the role you want, for the duration of the play, great. But understand it's YOUR fantasy, not hers. When she's tired of the role, thank her, wish her well, move on. As I've said, no one is irreplaceable.

As for gold diggers, I stick with a defined benefits plan. They're easily and quickly identified and cut loose.

[11Bravo]

How can you trust a person without knowing their background or base an assessment on it? You yourself said you did risk assessment for a living.
Guess I'm more of an "innocent until proven guilty" type. As PussyBonpensiero corrected, I judge her current actions, not past. Start from a clean slate and go from there.


Out of all the guys you know 11Bravo who have paired with a WL or ML into a relationship how many have made a go of it percentage wise? I personally know of four and they’ve all failed.
Given I don't run background checks on friends' significant others, even those that are (shock :shocked: horror :horror:) foreign born, difficult to say. Their lives, their choices. But the ones I do know: 75% (3-1), all 15-20 years together. Maybe they're like Indiana Jones who heeded the Old Knight's advice: choose wisely.


They say dreams hold meaning. This morning I dreamt I was cheated on by a WL and for some reason the guy was Italian. It’s enough to throw a spanner in the works as far as she is concerned. Call me silly, stupid, a follower of old wives tails or maybe it’s intuition but it’s now presented a hurdle that she’ll have to cross over.
Myself, dreams, fantasies, are just that. I base my life, my choices, on REALITY. I find THAT works out much better for me. Certainly not always the way I want, but much better chances. Cheated on by a WG? If it's "on the job", then it's "work". If it's outside the job then she just doesn't view the relationship the same as you. She has to jump through hurdles for YOU? Jesus, Vinnie, Spanky, Revenant, Digby... the height of conceit. You recognize a lion by his claw.


I’m not even the jealous type but TRUST is my main priority. If you cannot trust how can you follow through?I'll paraphrase the Beatles: The trust you take is equal to the trust you make.

If you're in a relationship with a WG, understand the parameters. If you're not paying full support, with retirement plan, then she will go to work. It's WORK. And if it's only the money that's keeping her with you, then... don't be surprised when she jumps for a better offer. With a WG, you have a lot of built in doubt by her to overcome. It's you that needs to be jumping hurdles. Permanent or casual relationship? Big difference, and to her, even more so. "But she's this SYT and I have so much to offer... well, at least for now." Hell, I find your superior attitude nauseating, and I'm NOT interested in any type of a relationship with you. You're like the spoiled little kid who throws a temper tantrum when things don't go exactly the way you imagine they should.

Your trouble? You see her as a WG, not as a person. To you, she'll always be that, and she knows it. Death spiral.

[Digby]

You’re right on some things 11Bravo.

[11Bravo]

You’re right on some things 11Bravo.

Bit of second thoughts? You should have more of those, not just with your posting, but also with editing your behavior. I was going to reply to the original, but had to get over my nausea first. A prime example of the benefits of patience. You can learn by example, right? Little Digby (I do like that handle, fits), Little Digby must have gotten over his temper tantrum.

1. Penalty box to teach her a lesson? Good news: you are teaching her a lesson. Bad news: NOT the lesson you want, just puts you in a very bad light (Thai speak: small heart, small heart). As Mom told me, "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face."

2. Blow someone's life up? WTF? That really is the definition of NOT YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS. Certainly makes the case for JJBlows posts above. The arrogance, egotism, and pettiness are beyond the pale. But as my best mate would say: "Better to take the high road. In the end, you WILL feel better about YOURSELF".

And yes, your post was memorable, for all the WRONG reasons.

Bookies taking bets on ("they're crawling back to me", "I cut them loose, found better", "I grew up"); last one is the long shot.

But enough of that. Now, for something completely different, see below.

[11Bravo]

Tells for when to bail:


If a PRC refers to you as a capitalist lackey
If a Korean is wearing a Kim Jong Un lapel pin
If a Japanese is wearing a Unit 731 insignia
If an Indian refers to you as an exploitive colonialist
If a Malay refers to you as an infidel dog
If a Cambodian is wearing a Pol Pot lapel pin
If a HongKonger makes disparaging remarks about your umbrella
If a Thai mentions "feeding the ducks"
If a Viet starts screaming, "You die, GI, you die"

Grab your boots and run like hell.

[Spectra]

Judging people by their current actions. They say a leopard cannot change its spots which is true isn’t it? Can people change and if so can they change for the better? Aren’t they a result of their programming, life’s conditioning? A product of their environment, their work and their social interactions.

Maybe I took the wrong road, made a wrong choice or three, maybe it was giving into temptation and I never stopped cheating, so how can one trust if they themselves cannot be trusted? You say trust is earnt not given but if sex is a drug then why wasn’t the cupboard kept locked? Why is unlimited sex so freely available and those with a bent for pleasure allowed access? Perhaps the govt should regulate number of visits to houses of ill repute? I jest of course as it’s all down to self control and some don’t have any. It’s either ON or OFF you see… Maybe the internet is to blame for putting things right there in our faces?

Does porn promote promiscuity and if it does then just how promiscuous are people that work in the industry?

[konfuzion]

I know ex wls now happy marriage but man not customer and not knowing her old job

[Spectra]

I know ex wls now happy marriage but man not customer and not knowing her old job

How much sex does he get?

I’m always wary of a woman who carries two bags. One larger for her kit and the other her EDC, that’s for going to work of course. Now if they’re packing a spare G banger in their EDC and no large carry then that’s just as bad as she’ll drop her pants anywhere.

[konfuzion]

How much sex does he get?

I’m always wary of a woman who carries two bags. One larger for her kit and the other her EDC, that’s for going to work of course. Now if they’re packing a spare G banger in their EDC and no large carry then that’s just as bad as she’ll drop her pants anywhere.
Not ask that question but I think wl can have normal life but can still do job if need money. No good to marry punter because we know alot. 1 old wl have 2 kids and run very good private wl business

[Candy1234]

Lost a regular due to her having a mental breakdown, I mean she’s still alive but I decided to stop seeing her as she’s not herself. She’s genuinely a good person, she has a lot on her plate, kids, mortgage back home and to top it up she’s not young anymore.

She’s in a desperate stage to find a simp here to milk and hopefully stop working, she actually have one or more, but I think these simps are smart enough or maybe experienced it already so they won’t put anything under her name. It would be interesting to see where she’s at soon, of course I kinder worry a little but it’s the game of punting, we are human but the way we met wasn’t the norm to be friends, well at least in my book. I’m sure she’s the same too, I don’t think she would call or text me just to see if I’m doing ok.

[Spectra]

Not ask that question but I think wl can have normal life but can still do job if need money. No good to marry punter because we know alot. 1 old wl have 2 kids and run very good private wl business

We all need money it’s just a matter of how much. Without the benefit of forums like aus99 a lot of punters would be making more mistakes. Personally I know of four guys, one a relative who gave and gave and in the end were left with nothing. So yes the internet has made punters wiser. I’m always curious about the amount of sex though as men punt due to their hunger and if things go further than a punt some guys expect a lot of sex. It’d be pointless getting into a relationship if the amount of sex wasn’t what their partner wanted.



Lost a regular due to her having a mental breakdown, I mean she’s still alive but I decided to stop seeing her as she’s not herself. She’s genuinely a good person, she has a lot on her plate, kids, mortgage back home and to top it up she’s not young anymore.

She’s in a desperate stage to find a simp here to milk and hopefully stop working, she actually have one or more, but I think these simps are smart enough or maybe experienced it already so they won’t put anything under her name. It would be interesting to see where she’s at soon, of course I kinder worry a little but it’s the game of punting, we are human but the way we met wasn’t the norm to be friends, well at least in my book. I’m sure she’s the same too, I don’t think she would call or text me just to see if I’m doing ok.

I’ve never had one txt me in the first instance ever and I always initiate and orchestrate the conversation. I’ve had a few Asian girlfriends (5 Pinay, 1 Japanese, 5 Thai and 2 HK) with families back home. I know they come here wanting a better life for themselves and to give back to their families and a lot don’t make the correct decisions. They make the money and try and invest it but the advice they’re given isn’t always the best. Some get tangled up with loser boyfriends/husbands who take only.

Life isn’t easy and I have compassion for all the ones I cross paths with but one cannot give everything to everyone even if you have power to do so. Your ex regular Candy1234 has her hands full and in reality she should be making an exit plan and stick to it.

[Candy1234]

Life isn’t easy and I have compassion for all the ones I cross paths with but one cannot give everything to everyone even if you have power to do so. Your ex regular Candy1234 has her hands full and in reality she should be making an exit plan and stick to it.
True to that! I think the whole coming here for a better life and to show for back home that she “made it”. The whole materialistic fake life stuffed her for sure. I straight up told that to her face and of course she didn’t like it but at the same time it hit a spot, you know? Finding a men here to escape route I think also the wrong way to go about it. I’m a lot younger so there’s no agenda on both sides. I do wish her all the best lol but at the same time my evil side wants her to recover and continue to work so I can bang bang.

[priapus1966]

The original post in this thread contemplated whether both ML's and WL's could make the transition to normal life. I think that both Ml's and WL's can do it but it is much easier for ML's and also simpler for part timers.

Why? A WL is just part of the menu, her control over herself and what she will do is limited and once the client is through the door she is pretty much committed. An ML on the other hand always retains the power and control over what she will do - or not do. She may be generous with extras, but it is her decision not the clients. Similarly a part timer, who may be a student or who has a second job can convince herself that it is only a temporary money earner.

However, the girl and especially a WL who works 5/6 days a week with no fall back plan is on the slippery slope of working a $150 shop when she is 50+ and desperate.

[Curious12]

Last week I saw an old 60+ fat short Caucasian guy in Burwood with a good looking probably early 30s Chinese girl dressed like she came out of a massage parlour. The people talking in Chinese behind her back saying "She dosent have any self respect" or "she trying hard to get a citizenship" and the amount of dirty stares she got from everyone made her uncomfortable where I saw her distancing herself from him quick. Not being judgemental to anyone here but that's the reality where people would think poorly of you and the girls know it.

[Smolex]

One of my friends who was a WL actually switch to ML to transition out of the industry.

[Spectra]

One of my friends who was a WL actually switch to ML to transition out of the industry.

Some mix it up to give their vajayjay a break.

[faruk]

One of my friends who was a WL actually switch to ML to transition out of the industry.

That's like saying a taxi driver switched to Uber to transition out of the industry.

[sarahnguyen]

is hard you know? very hard. I think I can just walk away start new life but no. Eight years I spend in this life since 20 years old. Now I'm 28 what I have? nothing. just memories regrets.

I try quit once marry rich guy think he make me happy but no he no understand me. we divorce after one year.

now I alone struggling. no more designer bag no more fancy trip. just me four wall thinking what could be.

I miss excitement rush feeling wanted. but most I miss money. hard to live paycheck to paycheck when you used to get whatever you want.

sometime I wish go back do different. but life no work that way. only I can do now try move forward one day one day.

you know I grateful for experience lessons. but sometime quiet moment I wonder... all this worth?

[faruk]

is hard you know? very hard. I think I can just walk away start new life but no. Eight years I spend in this life since 20 years old. Now I'm 28 what I have? nothing. just memories regrets.

I try quit once marry rich guy think he make me happy but no he no understand me. we divorce after one year.

now I alone struggling. no more designer bag no more fancy trip. just me four wall thinking what could be.

I miss excitement rush feeling wanted. but most I miss money. hard to live paycheck to paycheck when you used to get whatever you want.

sometime I wish go back do different. but life no work that way. only I can do now try move forward one day one day.

you know I grateful for experience lessons. but sometime quiet moment I wonder... all this worth?

Sorry to hear, but you're still very young at 28 and have a lot of time to make up for regret.

10 years from now you will give anything and everything to be 28 again

[The giver]

is hard you know? very hard. I think I can just walk away start new life but no. Eight years I spend in this life since 20 years old. Now I'm 28 what I have? nothing. just memories regrets.

I try quit once marry rich guy think he make me happy but no he no understand me. we divorce after one year.

now I alone struggling. no more designer bag no more fancy trip. just me four wall thinking what could be.

I miss excitement rush feeling wanted. but most I miss money. hard to live paycheck to paycheck when you used to get whatever you want.

sometime I wish go back do different. but life no work that way. only I can do now try move forward one day one day.

you know I grateful for experience lessons. but sometime quiet moment I wonder... all this worth?

It's your choice if you decide to leave, but you could go back and spend the money more wisely. Go to the gym and get in shape to get more clients. I don't know what your residency status is in the country, but you can save the money and invest it in real estate or stock market and if you have a lot of clients, you can pay off real estate pretty quickly. I knew an older WL in her 40s who had a house paid off but she was an australian citizen.

[Candy1234]

is hard you know? very hard. I think I can just walk away start new life but no. Eight years I spend in this life since 20 years old. Now I'm 28 what I have? nothing. just memories regrets.

I try quit once marry rich guy think he make me happy but no he no understand me. we divorce after one year.

now I alone struggling. no more designer bag no more fancy trip. just me four wall thinking what could be.

I miss excitement rush feeling wanted. but most I miss money. hard to live paycheck to paycheck when you used to get whatever you want.

sometime I wish go back do different. but life no work that way. only I can do now try move forward one day one day.

you know I grateful for experience lessons. but sometime quiet moment I wonder... all this worth?
That’s actually quite sad to read, I’m not sure if you’re a real WL or just another creepy dude acting like one.

Either way, it sounds like what a WL would go through in this job. Girls can make a whole day work in an hour, it’s hard to do 8hrs day on a $25 an hr rate. No offence but personally it is hard to accept a person as a GF/wife that had that many Ds, double standards? Yeh sure. Hats off to anyone that can look past it and date one. I think best escape route is do it by yourself.

As I mentioned in the previous comments. When you get to know the girl, when the deed is done, when she stop her WL acting, there’s a person with her own feelings behind it all, I sometimes feel the guilt of being a part of the whole mess, as a punter. I guess everyone has their problems including myself, life goes on. Punt and move to the next, no need to know the life stories, can’t help so it would be a or many pointless stories.

[Curious12]

That’s actually quite sad to read, I’m not sure if you’re a real WL or just another creepy dude acting like one.

Either way, it sounds like what a WL would go through in this job. Girls can make a whole day work in an hour, it’s hard to do 8hrs day on a $25 an hr rate. No offence but personally it is hard to accept a person as a GF/wife that had that many Ds, double standards? Yeh sure. Hats off to anyone that can look past it and date one. I think best escape route is do it by yourself.

As I mentioned in the previous comments. When you get to know the girl, when the deed is done, when she stop her WL acting, there’s a person with her own feelings behind it all, I sometimes feel the guilt of being a part of the whole mess, as a punter. I guess everyone has their problems including myself, life goes on. Punt and move to the next, no need to know the life stories, can’t help so it would be a or many pointless stories.

30hrs a week = 30 guys times 52 weeks thats 1560 guys. If you can be in a relationship knowing that she did it with a whole school throughout one year then go on ahead not to mention keeping up with their irregular spending/income plus low key emotional distress from that job. Not to be mean but while ml/wl want rich guys, the reality is rich guys have many options and would rather have someone who is pure rather than knowing they did it with hundreds of people who are way older, unhygenic or ugly....

[mn69]

Either way, it sounds like what a WL would go through in this job. Girls can make a whole day work in an hour, it’s hard to do 8hrs day on a $25 an hr rate. No offence but personally it is hard to accept a person as a GF/wife that had that many Ds, double standards? Yeh sure. Hats off to anyone that can look past it and date one. I think best escape route is do it by yourself.

As I mentioned in the previous comments. When you get to know the girl, when the deed is done, when she stop her WL acting, there’s a person with her own feelings behind it all, I sometimes feel the guilt of being a part of the whole mess, as a punter. I guess everyone has their problems including myself, life goes on. Punt and move to the next, no need to know the life stories, can’t help so it would be a or many pointless stories.

The only guy who usually dates/marries a WL or ex-WL is an old bald fat Farang. Just see how many is married to a Thai woman. 99.9% of the time, the Thai woman is an ex-hooker. Or is still a hooker, he just doesn't know she is still hooking.

The Farang will obviously lie to family & friends and say they met at a legit place (library, restaurant, hotel etc), even though they met at a bar/massage/brothel. Just to save himself the embarassment

No young, handsome rich guy in his right mind would take a WL/Ex-WL as a life partner

[Spectra]

Not all farangs are old, bald and fat.

[JJBlows]

That’s actually quite sad to read, I’m not sure if you’re a real WL or just another creepy dude acting like one.

Ehhhh that vinnie got banned again just the other day and this is a fresh account so I'm sceptical.

[GoldfishMan]

Lolll, are you guys really that naive or you're just playing along to the roleplay? I can't tell.

[asnabc]

Lolll, are you guys really that naive or you're just playing along to the roleplay? I can't tell.

I've refrain myself from replying to these types of threads. I think some people on this forum are really that naive. lol.

[Abracadabra]

Lolll, are you guys really that naive or you're just playing along to the roleplay? I can't tell.

The bells were ringing loud and clear after the 1st paragraph......

[The giver]

Back to the question though. I did know a few women that did quit. One was a private WL, quit before 30, dated regular guys, became a PT and moved back to Thailand. Another one was a shop ML, not sure her age, but she went back to Thailand and was working at her family's farm. Another was a shop WL who was paying off her house when I saw her and I haven't seen her on roster for years, so I assume she did pay it off. Others have mentioned planning to quit and find a husband to settle down, but I don't know what happened to them. I also heard of a few from other WL who got addicted to drugs.

[vitamin]

Who believes sarahnguyen is an actual WL??
Common guys. WL doesn't create accounts and chat on these Forums unless they're mama san or receptionist.

[11Bravo]

Not to be mean but while ml/wl want rich guys, the reality is rich guys have many options and would rather have someone who is pure rather than knowing they did it with hundreds of people who are way older, unhygenic or ugly....PURE !?!? WTF, how old are you anyway? PURE? And the view is the same in BOTH directions... that high class lady isn't going to be all the pleased that her husband was involved in P4P. Potential scandal waiting to blow up, food for the tabloids. PURE... FMTT

And to reiterate: the ones I still know, they've gone home, bought an apartment, kid's been put through a good university... One a very successful businesswoman, real estate holdings. If they're smart enough to survive the life, they're pretty damn smart. Certainly not all survive, but a number do; it's the mental fortitude to do what needs to be done. Certainly a disappearing trait in western life - where do I sign up for CentreLink?

[Niceguy11]

Back to the question though. I did know a few women that did quit. One was a private WL, quit before 30, dated regular guys, became a PT and moved back to Thailand. Another one was a shop ML, not sure her age, but she went back to Thailand and was working at her family's farm. Another was a shop WL who was paying off her house when I saw her and I haven't seen her on roster for years, so I assume she did pay it off. Others have mentioned planning to quit and find a husband to settle down, but I don't know what happened to them. I also heard of a few from other WL who got addicted to drugs.

A few WL's I use to see have left entirely. Some got into relationships that lasted and some that failed. One had a child then the relationship broke down and she's now working a normal 9 - 5 job. Another one has a massive gambling debt which she is paying off so she won't be quitting anytime soon. Most of these WL's are Chinese. I messaged a old regular last week and asked how she is going. She said she had a boyfriend and moved to Melbourne. I didn't get a response but did get one today saying she is back in Sydney as the relationship broke down. No surprise there.

For the J girls out there, I don't know if they have quit or are still working. My guess is that some have returned to Japan and continued working there. I think the strong minded girls will do it for a while, pay off their debts (university or other debts) then move on.

[Abracadabra]

I think it very much depends on the individual and their strength of purpose.
One well known WL I saw a few times before she retired in late 20 had a clear purpose of buying and paying off an apartment in Sydney.
She did that and promptly pulled up stumps, said goodbye and disappeared after a medium length WL career.
She had her purpose, knew what she wanted and how to get it and when she did she left and haven't heard of her in 4 years.

She was focused and smart.
Not all are like her.

I made this comment earlier in this thread and it focused on one WLs financial objective and the role she took on to achieve it and how her WL life finished once she got there....

But beyond the financial hooks, I've developed an interest in what mental and physical issues WLs must face if and when they break the financial ties and try to lead a normal life.

Specifically the impact on their identity, the cognitive, physical, and emotional aspects, likely leading to health problems and I assume problems in emotional management and interpersonal relationships.

One reg WL I have talks about resetting her mind regularly and one Ginza legend told me she leaves herself at the shop door.....

Despite their techniques it's hard to imagine how they move on past WL life, physically and mentally, after fucking and sucking me maybe 1000 guys a year...

[Brad-Pitt]

I made this comment earlier in this thread and it focused on one WLs financial objective and the role she took on to achieve it and how her WL life finished once she got there....

But beyond the financial hooks, I've developed an interest in what mental and physical issues WLs must face if and when they break the financial ties and try to lead a normal life.

Specifically the impact on their identity, the cognitive, physical, and emotional aspects, likely leading to health problems and I assume problems in emotional management and interpersonal relationships.

One reg WL I have talks about resetting her mind regularly and one Ginza legend told me she leaves herself at the shop door.....

Despite their techniques it's hard to imagine how they move on past WL life, physically and mentally, after fucking and sucking me maybe 1000 guys a year...

So what sort of mental and psychological issues do ex-SW's face? I would imagine same as any other job. Some good memories. Some bad

[Double_Adapter]

I made this comment earlier in this thread and it focused on one WLs financial objective and the role she took on to achieve it and how her WL life finished once she got there....

But beyond the financial hooks, I've developed an interest in what mental and physical issues WLs must face if and when they break the financial ties and try to lead a normal life.

Specifically the impact on their identity, the cognitive, physical, and emotional aspects, likely leading to health problems and I assume problems in emotional management and interpersonal relationships.

One reg WL I have talks about resetting her mind regularly and one Ginza legend told me she leaves herself at the shop door.....

Despite their techniques it's hard to imagine how they move on past WL life, physically and mentally, after fucking and sucking me maybe 1000 guys a year...

They don't bro! Do they move on physically and financially, yes but mentally and/or emotionally, hell no!

A chick that has sucked 2000+ cocks, has been pounded, groped, slapped, spat, fingered, stalked, harassed, asked to do kinky and weird shit by hundreds of blokes, man handled and threatened by dozens of creepy icky and disgusting indians, middle eastern and Caucasian animals, and short changed by scrupulous punters, shop owners, pimps, and other WLs etc has gotta take its toll on these chicks.

PTSD is widely acknowledged as a common consequence of working in risky environments eg armed forces, police, ambulance, and emergency services. But when it comes to the sex industry and the sex workers, it’s fucken conveniently swept under the rug and ignored.

These chicks eventually pack their bags and go back home to lead 'supposedly' a normal life, the PTSD is never reported, diagnosed and/or acknowledged here...and I highly doubt whether their home country will acknowledge it either.....its fucked!

[Niceguy11]

They don't bro! Do they move on physically and financially, yes but mentally and/or emotionally, hell no!

A chick that has sucked 2000+ cocks, has been pounded, groped, slapped, spat, fingered, stalked, harassed, asked to do kinky and weird shit by hundreds of blokes, man handled and threatened by dozens of creepy icky and disgusting indians, middle eastern and Caucasian animals, and short changed by scrupulous punters, shop owners, pimps, and other WLs etc has gotta take its toll on these chicks.

PTSD is widely acknowledged as a common consequence of working in risky environments eg armed forces, police, ambulance, and emergency services. But when it comes to the sex industry and the sex workers, it’s fucken conveniently swept under the rug and ignored.

These chicks eventually pack their bags and go back home to lead 'supposedly' a normal life, the PTSD is never reported, diagnosed and/or acknowledged here...and I highly doubt whether their home country will acknowledge it either.....its fucked!

This is right on point especially the first paragraph.

WL's always have the option to walk away but the financial hook is far too enticing.

[Double_Adapter]

This is right on point especially the first paragraph.

WL's always have the option to walk away but the financial hook is far too enticing.

If yoda was a Jedi punter he'd say '“Strong with this one, the force of money is.”

[Abracadabra]

They don't bro! Do they move on physically and financially, yes but mentally and/or emotionally, hell no!

A chick that has sucked 2000+ cocks, has been pounded, groped, slapped, spat, fingered, stalked, harassed, asked to do kinky and weird shit by hundreds of blokes, man handled and threatened by dozens of creepy icky and disgusting indians, middle eastern and Caucasian animals, and short changed by scrupulous punters, shop owners, pimps, and other WLs etc has gotta take its toll on these chicks.

PTSD is widely acknowledged as a common consequence of working in risky environments eg armed forces, police, ambulance, and emergency services. But when it comes to the sex industry and the sex workers, it’s fucken conveniently swept under the rug and ignored.

These chicks eventually pack their bags and go back home to lead 'supposedly' a normal life, the PTSD is never reported, diagnosed and/or acknowledged here...and I highly doubt whether their home country will acknowledge it either.....its fucked!

Sadly you are right with the vast majority.

I hadn't considered the PTSD angle, having associated it with first responders, armed forces and other stress invoking occupations, but again you're right given what a WL endures.

And it's unlikely their PTSD is identified and even more unlikely a WL would seek or be encouraged to seek out counseling or other treatment options.

[Fezco]

https://theconversation.com/a-soldier-and-a-sex-worker-walk-into-a-therapists-office-whos-more-likely-to-have-ptsd-71464

Would be much less prevalence of PTSD in decent shops who look after the girls than street workers and privates. That's why it's important that sex work is legal and regulated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-11/sirens-coming-corrupt-cops-queensland-sex-work/101060804

[Double_Adapter]

Fucken animals!!!

Cunts like this should be castrated, locked up and given a Roman shower.
It's a wonder why PTSD among sex workers is the highest across all the industries - circa 60%-80%

https://the-riotact.com/trial-starts-for-man-accused-of-repeatedly-raping-sex-worker-in-brothel/848744

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-21/man-jury-verdict-stealthing-covert-condom-removal-canberra-court/104959410

[Candy1234]

PTSD? Yeh I think it’s real. I’ve been out with a few of them. At times, I can see in their eyes that they popped in and out of reality, the sadness, the regrets what ever it was it is kind of hard to witness. Oh well I am part of the equation so I can’t really give advice 😅 hopefully they all can solve what ever issue they have and move on to a better place.

[Niceguy11]

Found this interesting article about 244 Paddington. This story was posted last year sometime.

https://www.ucanews.com/news/the-dark-side-of-materialism-in-japan/105172

[priapus1966]

One girl I know did it privately at a dodgy apartment in Burwood. Lasted about 6 months, then realised people found out and then quit.
She finished her juris doctor and started as a paralegal for a Chinese law firm without PR.


WL one day, Lawyer the next - now that's a tragic fall for a woman.

[JJBlows]

WL one day, Lawyer the next - now that's a tragic fall for a woman.

Isn't that a step up?? Doesn't have to deal with us degenerates anymore


PTSD? Yeh I think it’s real. I’ve been out with a few of them. At times, I can see in their eyes that they popped in and out of reality, the sadness, the regrets what ever it was it is kind of hard to witness. Oh well I am part of the equation so I can’t really give advice 😅 hopefully they all can solve what ever issue they have and move on to a better place.

Unfortunately some WL go from being physically abused at work to be abused domestically by their boyfriends

[rooter]

I often wonder if footy mascots can ever adjust to a normal life ... once you have put on that suit and felt the roar of the crowd ... can you go back to a normal life ... it would be hard ...

[Fezco]

WL one day, Lawyer the next - now that's a tragic fall for a woman.

A juris doctor isn't a law degree and a paralegal isn't a lawyer.

[rooter]

Another one I wonder about is those guys in a koala or possum costume collecting money for charity or wilderness or whatever. Once you have done that it very hard to adjust to normal society

[Burgundy]

WL one day, Lawyer the next - now that's a tragic fall for a woman.

Sounds like TISM lyrics...

[Double_Adapter]

WL one day, Lawyer the next - now that's a tragic fall for a woman.

Tragic fail?....hmm yeah nah.
As a prostitute you pay to fuck her, but as a lawyer you pay so she can fuck you.

[JesseMcCartney]

I would think they would struggle adjusting to working a normal job as well