Ai @ Mirage - waste of time

[EQ_Boy]

Went to visit Mirage today and picked Ai (Japanese) based on the photos. She's a tall and slim girl with nice face but a lot of make up, maybe too much.

She came into the room with not much of a greeting, and asked me to shower. I asked if we could shower together and she said no. I shrugged it off and just showered by myself.

Watched her shower and then onto the bed. Her massage wasn't really a massage at all. It was like she didn't even want to touch my back. I tried to initiate conversation but she either gave one word answers or said no English.

Turn around time and she says no kissing, no sucking nipples and no touching pussy. So I thought what the hell can I do?

She gave me a bit of a blowjob with condom on then asked if I wanted sex. I asked how much and she said $200. I said other girls charge $100 and she didn't say anything. Anyway I said no thanks and she just finished me off with a hand job.

To top it off, with about 10 minutes left on the clock she kept telling me time was up and ushered me out because she had a booking after.

Mirage is a good shop, but save your money and avoid this dud.

[spaceace77]

Had the same experience. Didn’t want any body contact in the shower. When she went to do the massage after she put a towel over my back. Knew this was going down hill fast. Turned over and she didn’t want any touching including her pussy. I had enough and left 15 mins early. Tried to explain to reception how bad the session was and was made to feel like it was my fault. Didn’t even try and offer to refund me the money for leaving 15 mins early. Terrible customer service after. Decided not to attend the shop anymore. Not sure why she still works there. Waste of money when there are plenty of places with better standards and customer service.

[17012430]

With this shop I generally let mamasan or receptionist choose for me… have not had a single bad punt here.

[cassius]

It’s always YMMV.. If she likes you the experiences is very different. She is an extraordinarily beautiful girl with a great sense of humour and a beautiful smile. if you can charm her you will be rewarded and if you don’t it’s by no means necessarily your fault. For me, I’m happy to go back for more, and happy to respect her remaining boundaries.

[EQ_Boy]

Had the same experience. Didn’t want any body contact in the shower. When she went to do the massage after she put a towel over my back. Knew this was going down hill fast. Turned over and she didn’t want any touching including her pussy. I had enough and left 15 mins early. Tried to explain to reception how bad the session was and was made to feel like it was my fault. Didn’t even try and offer to refund me the money for leaving 15 mins early. Terrible customer service after. Decided not to attend the shop anymore. Not sure why she still works there. Waste of money when there are plenty of places with better standards and customer service.

The shop is not bad, the other girls I have tried are good. Just this one was a bad experience

[EQ_Boy]

It’s always YMMV.. If she likes you the experiences is very different. She is an extraordinarily beautiful girl with a great sense of humour and a beautiful smile. if you can charm her you will be rewarded and if you don’t it’s by no means necessarily your fault. For me, I’m happy to go back for more, and happy to respect her remaining boundaries.

I'm paying for a service. I shouldn't have to charm her to get what I paid for. But I'm curious to know what remaining boundaries you get

[dt333]

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[Umitabi]

If you just paid for massage is kissing, sucking nipples and touching pussy part of the service?

[Atilla]

[QUOTE=Umitabi;3110222]If you just paid for massage is kissing, sucking nipples and touching pussy part of the service?[

[Rooster18]

Nana the boss is very straight up if she thinks the girl's service is not what u called "up to standard" and either pre-warn or suggest someone else.. This is my experience..

[EQ_Boy]

I did a search of the forum and looks like she's done this to others as well

She shouldn't be in this line of work if she's going to be like this

[fapmaster69]

When I saw Ai she was nice but had her boundraries, but she didn't prevent me from touching her pussy. I spoke to her in Japanese, so potentially there is some bias with her service given when there's a language barrier.

She is really good looking IMO and has very soft silky skin, but in terms of erotic service experience she is definitely less experienced than the counterparts, little body to body in the shower and you really have to ask for what you want. Her massage was quite nice though non sexually, with decent pressure and touching so that's unfortunate she didn't put in the same effort for you.

Not an excuse, but she comes from a hostess/nightclub background, not the massage/health/soapland industry in jp which is what a lot of other girls in mirage are from. I'd say she's only in nuru massage for the money, since she mentioned that hostess bars don't pay nearly as well here in Syd compared Japan so that's why she's doing massage.
So it would explain why her skills and erotic service skills are lower than other girls, and perhaps maybe she isn't satisfied doing it.

If you can speak Japanese, or somehow have some crazy rizz or something, then you might have a good experience with her, that might still be lower in terms of service than other girls like Kaori (which IMO is one of the top in terms of service and attitude rn, big recommendation, though if I had to pick based on face and body alone, I'd definitely pick Ai over her)

[Atilla]

A more recent visit confirms she is stunningly beautiful, and lots of fun. She is advertised as providing Massage not other services. It seems to me that people often complain about girls who advertise as massage only because they do not give other services. Hello? WIR? Yes.

[faruk]

When I saw Ai she was nice but had her boundraries, but she didn't prevent me from touching her pussy. I spoke to her in Japanese, so potentially there is some bias with her service given when there's a language barrier.

She is really good looking IMO and has very soft silky skin, but in terms of erotic service experience she is definitely less experienced than the counterparts, little body to body in the shower and you really have to ask for what you want. Her massage was quite nice though non sexually, with decent pressure and touching so that's unfortunate she didn't put in the same effort for you.

Not an excuse, but she comes from a hostess/nightclub background, not the massage/health/soapland industry in jp which is what a lot of other girls in mirage are from. I'd say she's only in nuru massage for the money, since she mentioned that hostess bars don't pay nearly as well here in Syd compared Japan so that's why she's doing massage.
So it would explain why her skills and erotic service skills are lower than other girls, and perhaps maybe she isn't satisfied doing it.

If you can speak Japanese, or somehow have some crazy rizz or something, then you might have a good experience with her, that might still be lower in terms of service than other girls like Kaori (which IMO is one of the top in terms of service and attitude rn, big recommendation, though if I had to pick based on face and body alone, I'd definitely pick Ai over her)

How much do girls make at hostess bars in Sydney? I have never been but I heard customers spend crazy amounts there, so does it all go to the shop?

[EQ_Boy]

When I saw Ai she was nice but had her boundraries, but she didn't prevent me from touching her pussy. I spoke to her in Japanese, so potentially there is some bias with her service given when there's a language barrier.

She is really good looking IMO and has very soft silky skin, but in terms of erotic service experience she is definitely less experienced than the counterparts, little body to body in the shower and you really have to ask for what you want. Her massage was quite nice though non sexually, with decent pressure and touching so that's unfortunate she didn't put in the same effort for you.

Not an excuse, but she comes from a hostess/nightclub background, not the massage/health/soapland industry in jp which is what a lot of other girls in mirage are from. I'd say she's only in nuru massage for the money, since she mentioned that hostess bars don't pay nearly as well here in Syd compared Japan so that's why she's doing massage.
So it would explain why her skills and erotic service skills are lower than other girls, and perhaps maybe she isn't satisfied doing it.

If you can speak Japanese, or somehow have some crazy rizz or something, then you might have a good experience with her, that might still be lower in terms of service than other girls like Kaori (which IMO is one of the top in terms of service and attitude rn, big recommendation, though if I had to pick based on face and body alone, I'd definitely pick Ai over her)

Maybe she should stick to hostess bars because she's clearly not into this line of work.

You're not the first person to say that the customer needs to put some effort into her just to get her to provide a somewhat decent experience.

[Atilla]

If you could not be bothered to even apply some basic charm then I guess yeah you just need to pay for it. But then don’t go to a girl offering massage just go to someone who directly offers full service with specified extras. All you want. And have a fabulous time.

[EQ_Boy]

A more recent visit confirms she is stunningly beautiful, and lots of fun. She is advertised as providing Massage not other services. It seems to me that people often complain about girls who advertise as massage only because they do not give other services. Hello? WIR? Yes.

Mirage states their nuru service includes massage and happy ending. But a look at other reviews sees she's clearly taking the piss. Like the one where she tried to charge some guy for taking her clothes off. What next, is she going to charge a punter for looking at her body

[EQ_Boy]

If you could not be bothered to even apply some basic charm then I guess yeah you just need to pay for it. But then don’t go to a girl offering massage just go to someone who directly offers full service with specified extras. All you want. And have a fabulous time.

You say she doesn't need to provide anything other than what the nuru includes. So where does it say customers need to provide charm just to get what they pay for?

[NC3]

Went to visit Mirage today and picked Ai (Japanese) based on the photos. She's a tall and slim girl with nice face but a lot of make up, maybe too much.

She came into the room with not much of a greeting, and asked me to shower. I asked if we could shower together and she said no. I shrugged it off and just showered by myself.

Watched her shower and then onto the bed. Her massage wasn't really a massage at all. It was like she didn't even want to touch my back. I tried to initiate conversation but she either gave one word answers or said no English.

Turn around time and she says no kissing, no sucking nipples and no touching pussy. So I thought what the hell can I do?

She gave me a bit of a blowjob with condom on then asked if I wanted sex. I asked how much and she said $200. I said other girls charge $100 and she didn't say anything. Anyway I said no thanks and she just finished me off with a hand job.

To top it off, with about 10 minutes left on the clock she kept telling me time was up and ushered me out because she had a booking after.

Mirage is a good shop, but save your money and avoid this dud.

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'''She gave me a bit of a blowjob with condom on then asked if I wanted sex. I asked how much and she said $200. I said other girls charge $100 and she didn't say anything''' ... If the suggestion for extra service came from the 'nuru' girl and she asked for 200$, then this lady is cunning. She is using the nuru option as an upselling tool and the owner need to talk to her.

[Atilla]

McDonald’s upsell. You have no objection to going into McDonald’s do you? What is your problem?

[NC3]

McDonald’s upsell. You have no objection to going into McDonald’s do you? What is your problem?

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common sense and honesty are values that anyone must have. So, who is right or wrong only the customer and the lady know, not you not me.

[sloaneranger]

Long time lurker first time poster, but this thread has to be genius gate keeping. I saw AI recently and easily one of the most beautiful Japanese girls both in face and body I've ever seen. The description on mirage website as Idol is perfect and she could also easily be in a Jpop/kpop band on looks alone. I actually wouldn't be posting here either as she's been a well kept secret til now, but she's only in Sydney a couple more weeks, so thought I'd put the record straight.

AI is obviously smart as well as beautiful as she can limit her services to nuru if she chooses when she doesn't like the look or vibe of the customer, but switch it up with those she does gel with and make extra cash in the process.

Sure this would be frustrating if you're in the first group, but as with any girl YMMV and I've seen plenty of girls with amazing reviews here which turn out to be bang average or worse. I was fortunate to be one of the very lucky ones to get the first class options from AI and I've literally been day dreaming about our session ever since. One of my top 10 punts in Sydney and thats out of hundreds.

If AI was sticking around I would 100% become a regular.

[EQ_Boy]

McDonald’s upsell. You have no objection to going into McDonald’s do you? What is your problem?

McDonald's doesn't charge one customer $1 up upsize fries and then another customer $2 for the same upsize.

[EQ_Boy]

Also curious to know how you "charm" her, what exactly are you doing that's different to the rest of us?

[Atilla]

I think the tenor of the exchanges make the answer to the last post fairly apparent. Anyway, this has become far too much like Facebook. I should’ve known better. I’m out. You win. The mean thread trumps the let’s be a little nicer thread, in the finest tradition of social media.

[sloaneranger]

It's pretty simple. If you pay nuru price you get nuru service (shower, massage, body slide with gel, CBJ and H/E) as clearly detailed on their website and in the shop. Nothing more nothing less.

She isn't listed as a diamond service girl, so you can't expect diamond service.

If she's in the mood and vibes with you and willing to offer extras then thats her call and happy days, but don't go bad mouthing her on the forum just because you didn't get what you didn't pay for.

Put yourself in the ML shoes and think about how you would want to be in control of which customers you did which service with.

[Beams]

McDonald's doesn't charge one customer $1 up upsize fries and then another customer $2 for the same upsize.

Why shouldn't she charge differently? It's her body, you think touching hideous rude men is easy? Lmao.

[xboyx]

Ai worked at another shop before. Yea she has great body, face is decent IMO.
My experience (three visits if I remember correctly) was pleasant, no issues. Her massage skills weren't great, but we had a good time, plenty of fun chatting with her, including DATY and FS, so it all depends on your connection with the girl.