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kamas
25-07-2024, 10:08 AM
According to the CM:

A man charged with attempted murder and attempted rape at a Fortitude Valley massage parlour early on Tuesday has appeared in court.

Emergency services were initially called around 3am following reports of a woman being stabbed.

Police will allege John Ikundu Karanja, 30, was getting a massage at a parlour when he pulled a knife and attacked his masseuse - a 35-year-old woman.

The woman ran onto the street and was found by paramedics with a stab wound to her neck outside a nearby convenience store. She was taken to hospital in a non-life threatening condition.

Karanja, from Kedron, faced Brisbane Magistrates’ Court charged with one count each of attempted murder, attempted rape, sexual assault whilst armed/in company, grievous bodily harm, and acts intended to cause grievous bodily harm or transmit serious disease.

A worker at a nearby convenience store said he had been confronted by the alleged victim early on Tuesday morning.

Shanis Asphak said the woman had a bleeding neck and was holding a knife while banging on the front door of the Ezymart where he works.

Mr Asphak said she said someone had attacked her.

“Got her in, she was bleeding really badly, and she had a knife in her hand and I don’t know how she got that,” Mr Asphak said.

“So we made her sit, gave her some tissues to hold the bleeding and I called the cops and they were here in two minutes.”

Bed Wrecker
25-07-2024, 11:03 AM
Seriously thats one of the most disturbing things ive heard thats happened in a shop.
Unfortunately ive heard worse.
These girls earn every fucking cent you cheap bastards.
They never know what walks through the door, especially at 3am in Fortitude Valley.

Shop owners leave these girls frightfully exposed at loads of shops across brisbane.
Dozens of ladies every day in shops have to deal with wannabe rapists.

Shagspear
25-07-2024, 11:51 AM
Looks like this guy “John” is known to police previously.

This is “Everybody appearing at Brisbane (George Street) Magistrates Court, Monday, February 26“ from CM:

https://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/redlands/hyperlocal/everybody-appearing-at-brisbane-george-street-magistrates-court-monday-february-26/news-story/0014caa645195c3e0d4d2d64a1060dbd?amp&nk=1df06ee2ff369dbbd4a8eb87ccc60a0f-1721868171

Massageloverbris
25-07-2024, 12:56 PM
Nothing good happens at 3am in the valley
Ahh well she be happy she can get $10 grand victims comp haha

Aquaman
25-07-2024, 06:50 PM
I've seen rosters on Locanto which show only one girl working at a shop, which I think is dangerous. At least two should be on at all times. Asking a girl to work solo in a shop is bad news, there are too many scumbags out there. The girl might naively think it's ok or maybe she potentially could earn more that day. But not worth the risk.

Asmodeus
25-07-2024, 07:01 PM
I've seen rosters on Locanto which show only one girl working at a shop, which I think is dangerous. At least two should be on at all times. Asking a girl to work solo in a shop is bad news, there are too many scumbags out there. The girl might naively think it's ok or maybe she potentially could earn more that day. But not worth the risk.

Agree with you Aquaman. I'm sure we have all heard stories of girls been robbed or worse when left in a shop on their own.

Responsible owners should ensure either they are on site or a minimum of one other staff member to look out for eachother. As you say too many scumbags out there.

I hope this lady is ok and recovers physically and mentally.

thunder545454
25-07-2024, 07:37 PM
Agree with you Aquaman. I'm sure we have all heard stories of girls been robbed or worse when left in a shop on their own.

Responsible owners should ensure either they are on site or a minimum of one other staff member to look out for eachother. As you say too many scumbags out there.

I hope this lady is ok and recovers physically and mentally.

Owners responsible, come on bruh I know there was a girl raped at one of the most well known shops in brisbane, the chinese owner told her she had to forget about, if they called the police she would end up in trouble aswell, fed her total bullshit scared her into silence.

Shop owners don't give a single fuck.

Who Killed Tangerine
25-07-2024, 08:17 PM
Owners responsible, come on bruh I know there was a girl raped at one of the most well known shops in brisbane, the chinese owner told her she had to forget about, if they called the police she would end up in trouble aswell, fed her total bullshit scared her into silence.

Shop owners don't give a single fuck.
That shop owner is a piece of shit. Ive heard worse stories at that shop too.
Unfortunately that poor girl you are referring to went to another shop and another scumbag tried it on as well.
Fortunately the owner at that shop dared the cunt to call the police after he demanded his money back.
Poor girl came storming out of room screaming with no clothes on. That shop owner then helped the girl with her trauma.

Some owners do the right thing. Unfortunately the sunshine doesnt hit all shops

thunder545454
25-07-2024, 08:52 PM
That shop owner is a piece of shit. Ive heard worse stories at that shop too.
Unfortunately that poor girl you are referring to went to another shop and another scumbag tried it on as well.
Fortunately the owner at that shop dared the cunt to call the police after he demanded his money back.
Poor girl came storming out of room screaming with no clothes on. That shop owner then helped the girl with her trauma.

Some owners do the right thing. Unfortunately the sunshine doesnt hit all shops

Its horrendous, I once went to see a girl before we did anything, she asked me to please do whatever I want to her, just don't roughly grab her pussy it was very sore, I said why would I be roughly grabbing your pussy, that would be pretty fucking weird.

She said just the night before she had 3 different guys roughly finger her, the last one held her down, so she couldn't get away.

I am sure they all have horror stories, to know how bad most guys are you can tell by how desperately they try to get your number and wechat from you, when they see your not a weirdo stinky retard.

Aquaman
25-07-2024, 09:21 PM
These arseholes prey on girls who they know don't want the unwanted publicity of having to testify in court if charges were ever brought. Plus rightly or wrongly, the girls are worried about their visa status.

Some shop owners put the same arguments to the girls in the event of an assault.

I wonder if this guy got bail?

kamas
26-07-2024, 08:49 AM
I wonder if this guy got bail?

There was no application for bail.

Rustyman1980
26-07-2024, 09:17 AM
What the fuck would have instigated reason for stabbing a girl during a punt? He just of been off his head

Who Killed Tangerine
26-07-2024, 10:03 AM
What the fuck would have instigated reason for stabbing a girl during a punt? He just of been off his head
Every girl will have a horror story.
From the indian/cheap guy who does a runner after service
To the attempted rapists, to the actual rapists.
Then you have the physical violence.

The humiliation and fear these girls go through every day.
The lack of humanity from men is disturbing.

One girl told me that during 10 shifts in a row, at least one guy, sometimes more than one a day, attempted to rape her. Her martial arts training helped. Other girls dont have this skill.

Needless to say shes out of the industry and hardly made any money. The mental toll was horrendous

Aquaman
26-07-2024, 12:14 PM
Every girl will have a horror story.
From the indian/cheap guy who does a runner after service
To the attempted rapists, to the actual rapists.
Then you have the physical violence.

The humiliation and fear these girls go through every day.
The lack of humanity from men is disturbing.

One girl told me that during 10 shifts in a row, at least one guy, sometimes more than one a day, attempted to rape her. Her martial arts training helped. Other girls dont have this skill.

Needless to say shes out of the industry and hardly made any money. The mental toll was horrendous
I've had girls give me extra services because I'm respectful. One gave me unexpected CIM without expectations of extra payment because she said I was "nice". All I did was be polite and treat her nicely, makes me wonder how many shitbags are out there who make the good guys look like saints. Maybe she'd had a run of bad customers that day and I was there at the right time.

Shagspear
26-07-2024, 07:27 PM
I have heard the same story from several girls from different shops that Indian guys often demand FS or other services for free or they call the police. This is the reason why many massage parlours have CCTV cameras out the front that don’t open to anyone look Indian.

On the escort side of the business, same thing that got Indian men bad reputation in which a lot of escort ads now states “no Indian please, sorry bad experience”. Even the brothel girls told me similar stories that brothel owners have to call the police on them to leave.

You have to wonder just how many of these Indian scums treat women so badly that they are pretty much banned across the whole industry.

Why is there a culture of such cruelty and disrespect against women from Indian men?

Tales
26-07-2024, 08:38 PM
The most common thing I hear are guys doing a runner after the massage without paying. I have a regular massage girl at a shop who commented that I "touch her nicely" when receiving extras and that a lot of guys are rough. I treat ML's like I'd treat my gf no different. There must be a lot of shit bags out there

Shagspear
26-07-2024, 09:08 PM
Another thing I noticed is few years ago before Covid, escort ads started to put “no Indian please, sorry bad experience”. Then later escort ads will demand clients to state their names, age, “country of origin” when contacting them; I think what happened is quite a few of these Indians still contact the escorts even knowing they will get refused; then it evolved to now some escorts are even demanding clients to submit their driver’s licenses or proof of Identity before they will even agree to see them… It’s getting ridiculous.


They kinda ruined it for themselves now they are kind of ruined for everyone because I for one will not be sending my ID to any escort who demands it.

ABCguy
26-07-2024, 11:28 PM
Another thing I noticed is few years ago before Covid, escort ads started to put “no Indian please, sorry bad experience”. Then later escort ads will demand clients to state their names, age, “country of origin” when contacting them; I think what happened is quite a few of these Indians still contact the escorts even knowing they will get refused; then it evolved to now some escorts are even demanding clients to submit their driver’s licenses or proof of Identity before they will even agree to see them… It’s getting ridiculous.


They kinda ruined it for themselves now they are kind of ruined for everyone because I for one will not be sending my ID to any escort who demands it.

No need to ask for ID. Everyone has a phone these days so just ask for a photo of the face holding up a piece of paper with whatever you want written on it would be enough I would have thought.

No Pay
26-07-2024, 11:40 PM
if girls want to offer illegal services in such joints, then there is a high chance of that happening. one girl working at any one time is right. more than that, it is considered a brothel, and you need a brothel licence if you want to have 2 or more girls working at the same time, or even be at the same location. if girls want to provide FS, then go work in the brothel where they have proper security and they will be much safer.

4FoW2
27-07-2024, 09:26 AM
If you were running a massage shop errr I mean a brothel ...wouldn't you employ a 6 foot 4 thug to be onsite at all times? You would be making a decent sum and a low life thug wouldn't be that expensive. ( could pay him in blow jobs even lol)
Remember the days of Players and Warren's dog - as if anyone would cause a hassle in that place. Biggest f ing German Shepard I'd ever seen.
But agree with some ..there are crazies out there and no matter what you do, legislation, intimidation, they will always go ape shit. That's why you will never stop random shootings, terrorist attacks, etc

BTW I have been a few shops over the years where a "customer" was causing a commotion. At Wooloongabba upstairs once I knew the girls were by themselves so I came out, as the owner. The sub continent gentleman was demanding his money back for the massage. He was refusing to leave - even threatening to call the Police.
After a bit of too and fro he left. And yes the girls were happy I was there but NO I didn't get freebies for the rest of my life. I'm not trying to be Mr. Knight in shining armour just hate dickheads.
In the 90's there was this group of taxi drivers (same ethnicity) that was having contest to see how much they could get for how little.
Word was one night one of them got firebombed in his taxi ....soon put an end to that. lol
4FoW2

ABCguy
27-07-2024, 10:16 AM
if girls want to offer illegal services in such joints, then there is a high chance of that happening. one girl working at any one time is right. more than that, it is considered a brothel, and you need a brothel licence if you want to have 2 or more girls working at the same time, or even be at the same location. if girls want to provide FS, then go work in the brothel where they have proper security and they will be much safer.

Wasn't this requirement abolished with the decriminalisation of sex work from May? These services you mention also would not be illegal anymore I would have thought?

Shagspear
28-07-2024, 01:12 AM
I think if the law allows multiple sex workers in a single dwelling, it may be a game changer because it will allow more “solo operators” to pair up or even form in groups for protection. I personally have seen a lot of “backpackers” who flat together and rented city apartments to offer escort services in the past….one of my best punt was from a pair of pommy girls who offered “two for one” and one of them was young and looked stunning like an A-lister.

The downside is of course the backlashes from general public because it will be a massive boom of young backpackers and others to offer this in groups especially in city apartments which will cause general public especially women rights group to protest against it.

Anyway I think there will be a period of boom with lots of overseas talents flocking to here then a period of tightening restrictions to come.

funinqld
28-07-2024, 09:20 AM
I think if the law allows multiple sex workers in a single dwelling, it may be a game changer because it will allow more “solo operators” to pair up or even form in groups for protection. I personally have seen a lot of “backpackers” who flat together and rented city apartments to offer escort services in the past….one of my best punt was from a pair of pommy girls who offered “two for one” and one of them was young and looked stunning like an A-lister.

The downside is of course the backlashes from general public because it will be a massive boom of young backpackers and others to offer this in groups especially in city apartments which will cause general public especially women rights group to protest against it.

Anyway I think there will be a period of boom with lots of overseas talents flocking to here then a period of tightening restrictions to come.

Yep the law change will mean that there is security or at least some security for the girls. Before it was a crime for one working girl to even contact another working girl if you can believe that

Herpetology
28-07-2024, 10:43 AM
If you were running a massage shop errr I mean a brothel ...wouldn't you employ a 6 foot 4 thug to be onsite at all times? You would be making a decent sum and a low life thug wouldn't be that expensive. ( could pay him in blow jobs even lol)
Remember the days of Players and Warren's dog - as if anyone would cause a hassle in that place. Biggest f ing German Shepard I'd ever seen.
But agree with some ..there are crazies out there and no matter what you do, legislation, intimidation, they will always go ape shit. That's why you will never stop random shootings, terrorist attacks, etc

BTW I have been a few shops over the years where a "customer" was causing a commotion. At Wooloongabba upstairs once I knew the girls were by themselves so I came out, as the owner. The sub continent gentleman was demanding his money back for the massage. He was refusing to leave - even threatening to call the Police.
After a bit of too and fro he left. And yes the girls were happy I was there but NO I didn't get freebies for the rest of my life. I'm not trying to be Mr. Knight in shining armour just hate dickheads.
In the 90's there was this group of taxi drivers (same ethnicity) that was having contest to see how much they could get for how little.
Word was one night one of them got firebombed in his taxi ....soon put an end to that. lol
4FoW2

A few guys want free for all mates for mates rate.
Same Nationalty are Habitual Offenders
They are easy to remove.
3 Cameras are great
Our girls from BKK and Dubai are very skilled kicking ass
They are skilled in massage and all aspects of dealing with scum.
Well you know the deal and outcome with out saying to remove Scum.

funinqld
28-07-2024, 05:22 PM
Unfortunately its an issue here from what everybody has said,
It has been an issue in Sydney for a while. I had a few ladies there mention that certain people were rough with them from the Auburn, Lidcombe and Bankstown areas. No need to point it out

sensis44
29-07-2024, 09:35 PM
Being a Regular at PLAYERS, always wondered how WARREN got away with so much ( hookers, nude strippers etc) until one night overheard conversion with Police HQ. Having a Drink one night ( illegal - no license ) Warren handed me a Baseball Bat, WTF ! , some Out - of - Towners were causing a Ruckus.