BBFS with Apple from Ocean Massage St Ives??

[JoeBlow123]

Hey all, first time posting. I hope I can get some help. I am curious if has anyone ever had or been offered BBFS or FS with Apple at the shop on Denley Lane St Ives?

I went about 2 months back - first time with Apple and had a massage. She was very flirty and touchy feely from the get go and complimenting me, telling me how beautiful I was. I didn't think much of it. Just figured it was part of the show before we got to business with the extras at the end. She got me to turn over quite early - maybe 20-25 mins into 60 mins. I was hard as a rock as she spent as much time with her hands on my junk as the rest of my body and she immediately started with a BBBJ without any offer of extras or confirming prices, negotiation etc. I was shocked but I was up for it and just went along with it. Then she stripped her gear off pretty quick and climbed on top into 69. She isn't the prettiest facially but she has a cracking body for an older bird so I was very into it. After a few mins she said "I can't take it anymore" and 180'd on top of me. I thought she was just going to have a little bit of a bareback grind to finish me or she was not into my tongue skills or something. I have had WL grind me to climax before but obviously without any penetration unless we had agreed to FS and I had a condom on. But she started to grind on me and purposely slid herself right to the tip of my cock, and then sank her hips into it and slipped it inside her. I was frozen for a moment as obviously I never had any intention of BBFS at a massage shop in St Ives. Also the fact I was essentially fucking a 40-something probably lifetime hooker unprotected. But my brain was not functioning fully at this point and was overpowered by my dick so we went for it for the next 10ish mins. She said I had to pull out so I did and finished. She cleaned us both up and then finished the last of the massage and I started panicking about what just happened.

She then told me that she had missed me, hadn't seen me in a while and called me by another name. Well this confirmed I would be delusional to let myself consider the possibility I was special and she had been overcome with some sort of lust for me and jumped me as a one off and had never done that before with anyone else.

I've gone and had tests done now and come back negative on the first round. Gotta do 12 & 24 week tests still for the big stuff. Still shitting myself though.

I'm wondering if anyone else has ever had this sort of experience or another with her?

[andrewv]

You had every opportunity to refuse BBFS.
Even when you’re fully overcome with excitement.

[blitz]

Apple is about to become a very busy ML.

[Kiryu0]

40 something plus and calling you by the wrong name? This is not gonna end well. She really wanted to returning customer.

[jedibear]

Apple is about to become a very busy ML.Lol, bro, OP just provided a great advertisement for Apple [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[personaa]

Is she the famous Tattoo Apple? Tats on her arms / back (If I remember correctly).

[paulgallen]

Where is this place ? It's a bit out of the way but need to make sure a place to avoid. Any shop links or locanto ?

[sync3d3d]

Where is this place ? It's a bit out of the way but need to make sure a place to avoid. Any shop links or locanto ?
I’m kinda like this . Why risk everything for some BB with a working girl. If you are paying for it , whether it’s extras in $ or just repeated visits or dinners, she’s most likely doing it with a lot of other guys.

[JoeBlow123]

You had every opportunity to refuse BBFS.
Even when youÂ’re fully overcome with excitement.

100% agree. I got caught up in the excitement of the moment and the shock it was actually happening. Was my responsibility to stop it. I'm just trying to get a sense of whether anyone else may have had an experience like this with Apple or if it's been offered, or not offered by her

[CharlieM]

I got hard just reading that original post. Better than any AR on here.

[JoeBlow123]

Is she the famous Tattoo Apple? Tats on her arms / back (If I remember correctly).

No tattoos. She said she has worked there for years though so if you've been to that shop before with someone named Apple it was likely her

[speranza]

If by "big stuff" OP means HIV, friendly reminder, the risk of a man contracting HIV from vaginal intercourse is next to zero. This has been researched many times, the papers are all available online.

[RodgHerMoore]

Up until you froze technically you could say she raped you. But then you went along.

However afterwards you still have regret.... Possibly feel violated you have a risk now contracting HIV.

So if you had not pumped her, E2E it would have been rape... Coercion to pump money out of u for a service you didn't clearly want and still have post rape trauma to even post here. But little head ruined it and you became willing for 10 fking mins.

Oh well...too late... Good luck though and hope you get off scot free.

[blanet]

even if no one here claims they've barebacked with her, it doesn't mean you're out of the woods because some punter might keep it to themselves or not even use the forums. just gotta wait for the tests bro

i went to ocean massage years ago and saw a mature chinese ml. forgot her name, could've been apple. i just got the standard rnt service

[JoeBlow123]

Up until you froze technically you could say she raped you. But then you went along.

However afterwards you still have regret.... Possibly feel violated you have a risk now contracting HIV.

So if you had not pumped her, E2E it would have been rape... Coercion to pump money out of u for a service you didn't clearly want and still have post rape trauma to even post here. But little head ruined it and you became willing for 10 fking mins.

Oh well...too late... Good luck though and hope you get off scot free.

Probably but I went along with it so it's my own fault. I made that choice.

Fingers crossed. I've been told the risks are extremely low now that I passed the first test for the common stuff

[JoeBlow123]

even if no one here claims they've barebacked with her, it doesn't mean you're out of the woods because some punter might keep it to themselves or not even use the forums. just gotta wait for the tests bro

i went to ocean massage years ago and saw a mature chinese ml. forgot her name, could've been apple. i just got the standard rnt service

100%. I guess I posted more just hopefully that 20 punters wouldn't reply in the first day saying they barebacked her on the reg too haha. Also curious to hear if this sort of thing has happened to anyone else before.

[Sendmetheacti]

If by "big stuff" OP means HIV, friendly reminder, the risk of a man contracting HIV from vaginal intercourse is next to zero. This has been researched many times, the papers are all available online.

Unless your Easy-E.

But no a lot of the sex-related papers have been scientifically corrupted by left-wing politics. There was one floating around earlier that said you're more likely to get an STD from a random club girl, than from a prostitute.
.. because get this; prostitutes HAVE to get tested once a month.

Bro, the prostitute has had contact with more strange dick THAT MORNING, than the club girl has seen all month, possibly all year.

I don't buy this low-HIV risk thing. All it takes is for a bit of infected pussy juice to go into your urethra and get absorbed into the lining of your pee hole and that's it. You're Easy-E now.
Same with BBBJs and herpes etc; You can check for visible sores on her lips/mouth; but you can't do interior mouth inspection, it's ridiculous. All it takes is for her to have a little sore spot/pimple on the inside of her cheek and have that rub against your glans and that's it. You're herpescock now, for life.

and maybe, the sores go away; but you're shit it sitll infectious. and maybe you see another WL, and she gives you another BBBJ, where she swallows a bit of your fluid. That's it. She's now herpinator as well, spreading it to everyone she gives a BBBJ to. It's wild shit.

They call it punting for a reason.

[themort]

Unless your Easy-E.

He did wear his pants like that for easy access.

[andrewv]

If by "big stuff" OP means HIV, friendly reminder, the risk of a man contracting HIV from vaginal intercourse is next to zero. This has been researched many times, the papers are all available online.

You’re correct about risk of HIV, but I can tell you the risk of contracting Herpes is very high and it’s a lifelong infection. It’s ruined many lives and relationships.

[speranza]

Herpes can be caught while wearing a condom.

@Sendmetheacti - there have been sooo many studies that in fact it's best to look at the meta-analysis of several studies. Here's one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6195215/

Go toTable 1 and you'll see that insertive penile vaginal intercourse (guy fucking girl) is the least risky, beaten only by oral sex.

The science doesn't lie. There's a reason why HIV is most prevalent in gay men.

[speranza]

Well 2 reasons. Anal sex is most risky and gay men are incredibly promiscuous...half their luck

[Azrael]

Is she the famous Tattoo Apple? Tats on her arms / back (If I remember correctly).

Tell me she doesn’t have two cherries tattooed on her breast.

[suka03]

Tell me she doesn’t have two cherries tattooed on her breast.

i can confirm she doesnt have tatts. went there last week, she is 40-50 but great slim body. Only got b2b, no other offers given :( no luck for me.

[pocket rocket]

Apparently this shop has a sister shop at Longueville Road, Lane Cove, open to 8.00pm so most likely to be an RnT at least

Anyone know if the girls (especially Apple !!) rotate between these two shops ?

Keen to know as Lane Cove much easier for me to get to ?

[pocket rocket]

Apparently this shop has a sister shop at Longueville Road, Lane Cove, open to 8.00pm so most likely to be an RnT at least

Anyone know if the girls (especially Apple !!) rotate between these two shops ?

Keen to know as Lane Cove much easier for me to get to ?

Any answers, please keep to info on the girls and the shops .... no need to turn another very informative and helpful Opening Post into a Lecture thread about the risks of BBFS ....

[ssss1111]

Apparently this shop has a sister shop at Longueville Road, Lane Cove, open to 8.00pm so most likely to be an RnT at least

Anyone know if the girls (especially Apple !!) rotate between these two shops ?

Keen to know as Lane Cove much easier for me to get to ?

Also interested to know if anyone does a really good legit massage here?

[andrewv]

Apparently this shop has a sister shop at Longueville Road, Lane Cove, open to 8.00pm so most likely to be an RnT at least

Anyone know if the girls (especially Apple !!) rotate between these two shops ?

Keen to know as Lane Cove much easier for me to get to ?

I’ve been to the one in Lane Cove. It’s totally painted in pink. The walls don’t go through to the ceiling so you’d hear the guy next door.

Tried 2 different women. Didn’t get any FS on the menu. Nude HJ only. Both girls were not fit bodied in their late 30s. Can’t remember their names.
Occasionally, they text message saying they have a nice girl today.

[pocket rocket]

I’ve been to the one in Lane Cove. It’s totally painted in pink. The walls don’t go through to the ceiling so you’d hear the guy next door.

Tried 2 different women. Didn’t get any FS on the menu. Nude HJ only. Both girls were not fit bodied in their late 30s. Can’t remember their names.
Occasionally, they text message saying they have a nice girl today.

Hi AndrewV,

Thanks for the feedback ... sounds very much like standard fare .... I might drop in next time I'm passing just for the thrill (or not) of the unknown.

Cheers.

[andrewv]

Hi AndrewV,

Thanks for the feedback ... sounds very much like standard fare .... I might drop in next time I'm passing just for the thrill (or not) of the unknown.

Cheers.

I am not getting paid to say this, for a while now I have been going to 161 Chastwood rather than the Artarmon, St Leonards and other nearby places.
Reasons are:
161 Chatswood has a fixed-price deal. You only need to negotiate additional services if you want more than nude HE.
They have several rooms, each with a shower. Parking is easy at the back. Always offering 6 to 10 girls on the roster instead of the usual only 2 to 4 elsewhere.

[11Bravo]

I am not getting paid to say this, for a while now I have been going to 161 Chastwood rather than the Artarmon, St Leonards and other nearby places.
Reasons are:
161 Chatswood has a fixed-price deal. You only need to negotiate additional services if you want more than nude HE.
They have several rooms, each with a shower. Parking is easy at the back. Always offering 6 to 10 girls on the roster instead of the usual only 2 to 4 elsewhere.

I've been there twice. Agree there is a reasonable selection. Rooms are nice, large, included shower. Had to set my clothes on a beanbag chair, no hooks, and no other furniture in the room except a LARGE (nice) massage table.
However:

Reception: When it was a mamasan, she cared about customer satisfaction. When it was a papasan, he couldn't care less, could barely be bothered to look up from his mobile.
.

Girl: Her right, but she did not include the included NHJ price in her extra charges, and FS was 150 on top of the 130 (shop+NHJ) fee. Seems she considered the shop fee the shop's, and anything for her would be paid directly to her (I was thinking it would be the standard +50 part 2.5, +50 part 3).
Maybe other girls are different, but I tend to stick to the standard brackets, and why I prefer the shop doesn't include any extras. I prefer to handle those myself.

[andrewv]

I've been there twice. Agree there is a reasonable selection. Rooms are nice, large, included shower. Had to set my clothes on a beanbag chair, no hooks, and no other furniture in the room except a LARGE (nice) massage table.
However:

Reception: When it was a mamasan, she cared about customer satisfaction. When it was a papasan, he couldn't care less, could barely be bothered to look up from his mobile.
.

Girl: Her right, but she did not include the included NHJ price in her extra charges, and FS was 150 on top of the 130 (shop+NHJ) fee. Seems she considered the shop fee the shop's, and anything for her would be paid directly to her (I was thinking it would be the standard +50 part 2.5, +50 part 3).
Maybe other girls are different, but I tend to stick to the standard brackets, and why I prefer the shop doesn't include any extras. I prefer to handle those myself.

In my experience, it was $130 per hour for massage and NHJ, and an extra $100 for FS. A couple of girls asked for $50 for B2B but no FS.
I guess with so many girls working there (sometimes, as many as 10 are on the roster), there will inevitably be some variations.

But all up, it's a good place that avoids the risk of haggling and being left with limited options. I do agree they need coat hangers to hang clothes.

[11Bravo]

In my experience, it was $130 per hour for massage and NHJ, and an extra $100 for FS. A couple of girls asked for $50 for B2B but no FS.
I guess with so many girls working there (sometimes, as many as 10 are on the roster), there will inevitably be some variations.

But all up, it's a good place that avoids the risk of haggling and being left with limited options. I do agree they need coat hangers to hang clothes.
That's what I would expect, an extra $100 for FS, if offered. My experience (also in other shops, is trying for the standard +150 FS, forgetting about the included $50 NHJ. Maybe they take me for a noob; I certainly don't think I look like one). But thanks for the confirmation, and a return visit might be in order. I just wish their sister shop at 239 Liverpool was closer to me.

I do agree, the selections are varied, which is nice. Some coat hooks, and an actual chair would be icing on the cake.

[sync3d3d]

That's what I would expect, an extra $100 for FS, if offered. My experience (also in other shops, is trying for the standard +150 FS, forgetting about the included $50 NHJ. Maybe they take me for a noob; I certainly don't think I look like one). But thanks for the confirmation, and a return visit might be in order. I just wish their sister shop at 239 Liverpool was closer to me.

I do agree, the selections are varied, which is nice. Some coat hooks, and an actual chair would be icing on the cake.

Have they fixed the massage sheets being too small for the beds ? I went a few times early on, while not the main reason I’ve stopped going but was always interesting to see the logic of it and the stains on the sides .