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PleadInsanity
29-08-2024, 01:53 PM
Saw many positive reviews of K Zoe recently. She was the only one available within my short punting windows, most of the J girls that I wanted to see were not available or booked out. So settled with Zoe. Service wise she was excellent. Thou, the ciggie breath did bother me so only LFK rather than DFK. The other thing that bothers me after the session is the transparency of the profile age. I don't know why more punters don't point this out. Ginza is very thoughtful with their feedback which I applaud them for.

I have always added +8 or more to the profile age. (if age is 24+ but for K girl - you need to start at 22. Look at all the k service queen and the profile age of not change) Now, I need to add +12 at the least. What do others think?

Yes, I am a picky bastard and don't compare me if I was in another place other than Sydney. I've been spoiled with going to Ginza and No5. I don't do rnt anymore of what is offered at ginza.

I like them young but legal, slim and pretty face. Service is secondary, I'm a one shot guy so 30 min is all I need. If they fit my criteria, all I need is BBBJ without teeth, tight pussy to gently pump (please be gentle) and CIM to finish. Don't have to be a service queen to offer this. I guess most of the service queens of ginza are outside of my criteria.

I ranted about the same issue with <a href="http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129839-K-Min-Meh-Not-my-cup-of-tea">K Min</a> Surprising ginza management did listen and changed age to 30 instead of 25. And add Mature as a description.

As you can read, I will still be going there, but now I have finally learned the lesson. Dine on fresh sushi instead of kimchi (with the exception of those NZBK and ABK)

mn69
29-08-2024, 02:15 PM
Yes this is true. Post-Covid, most Korean WL/ML's have been over 30+. I dont mind as long as they give great service

Maybe few 20's like the NZBK/ABK ones. But thats about it.

Pre-covid was golden era for K girls. I saw K-Angel at Ginza then, real 19 years old.

scotty3d
29-08-2024, 02:28 PM
Yes, pre-covd and before. I remember one of my first punts was K Baby, Ahh..been hooked ever since.

doosan208602
29-08-2024, 07:06 PM
Hey~ know your place~ I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and You have know that Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop. You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like a handsome Korean men Lol

doosan208602
29-08-2024, 07:38 PM
Saw many positive reviews of K Zoe recently. She was the only one available within my short punting windows, most of the J girls that I wanted to see were not available or booked out. So settled with Zoe. Service wise she was excellent. Thou, the ciggie breath did bother me so only LFK rather than DFK. The other thing that bothers me after the session is the transparency of the profile age. I don't know why more punters don't point this out. Ginza is very thoughtful with their feedback which I applaud them for.

I have always added +8 or more to the profile age. (if age is 24+ but for K girl - you need to start at 22. Look at all the k service queen and the profile age of not change) Now, I need to add +12 at the least. What do others think?

Yes, I am a picky bastard and don't compare me if I was in another place other than Sydney. I've been spoiled with going to Ginza and No5. I don't do rnt anymore of what is offered at ginza.

I like them young but legal, slim and pretty face. Service is secondary, I'm a one shot guy so 30 min is all I need. If they fit my criteria, all I need is BBBJ without teeth, tight pussy to gently pump (please be gentle) and CIM to finish. Don't have to be a service queen to offer this. I guess most of the service queens of ginza are outside of my criteria.

I ranted about the same issue with <a href="http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129839-K-Min-Meh-Not-my-cup-of-tea">K Min</a> Surprising ginza management did listen and changed age to 30 instead of 25. And add Mature as a description.

As you can read, I will still be going there, but now I have finally learned the lesson. Dine on fresh sushi instead of kimchi (with the exception of those NZBK and ABK)


Hey~ know your place~
I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop.
You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like handsome men Lol

Bradis
30-08-2024, 05:40 PM
Hey~ know your place~
I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop.
You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like a handsome Korean men Lol

oh fuck off with that white knight bullshit. Paying customers are allowed to have standards, simple as that

rwangg
30-08-2024, 06:22 PM
Hey~ know your place~
I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop.
You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like a handsome Korean men Lol

Why are all your posts just calling punters out for how they look hahaha. You're probably Korean yourself so you think Korean men are the pinnacle of good looks but not every girl thinks that Korean men are handsome

rwangg
30-08-2024, 06:24 PM
Hey~ know your place~
I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop.
You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like a handsome Korean men Lol

No need to bash someone online for giving honest feedback. Pretty sure the shop appreciates it too

mn69
30-08-2024, 06:30 PM
But how do we know OP bro @PleaseInsanity doesn't look like Chris Hemsworth or Brad Pitt in real life.... we never know. He may well do...

PleadInsanity
30-08-2024, 07:20 PM
But how do we know OP bro @PleaseInsanity doesn't look like Chris Hemsworth or Brad Pitt in real life.... we never know. He may well do...

Yeah mate. Wish that was the case. Just an old dud having fun fucking young hot sweet Asian WL along the way. Never know when you going to cark it.

PleadInsanity
30-08-2024, 07:28 PM
Hey~ know your place~ I bet you can't meet any Korean girls in Korea if you are in Korea. You can't even talk to them. Haha and You have know that Korean girls will be disappointed as well (even Japanese girls) when they see you at shop. You also have to take care of your face and body first like Korean men before evaluating girls' appearance If you don't look like a handsome Korean men Lol

Not sure where that came from. Mate!!! If I can meet young hot Asian/korean girls. I won’t be handling over $180+ for half of hour of service. I sure there are lots ugly Korean men in Korea also handling over cold hard cash to spend time fucking k-girl.

cometoIndia
30-08-2024, 07:49 PM
One thing I noticed among Korean people I know in real life and online is that Korean people have God complex over others.

@doosan208602 please know your place too since you're earning Australian dollars, which is worth more than your worthless shit toilet paper Won in your aging soon-to-be-extinct society.

Regards.

Meng
30-08-2024, 11:15 PM
I don't understand this post. Are you asking for transparency from the shop or from us punters who write the AR?

If it's the latter then that's kinda a dog move. Would you rather us not write ARs at all? Like sorry for missing out certain details if they're not important to me in terms of how I perceive quality service.

I for one have never looked at the advertised age from a shop ad ever and it has never affected whether I book the girl or not. In fact I've never booked a girl based on the age that a shop advertises them to be. As you said 99% of the time their age is inaccurate.

For me it's determined by whether the girl is good looking and does she provide good service. If both criterias are met, age doesn't even cross my mind.

I personally think Zoe looks really young.

rwangg
30-08-2024, 11:19 PM
One thing I noticed among Korean people I know in real life and online is that Korean people have God complex over others.

@doosan208602 please know your place too since you're earning Australian dollars, which is worth more than your worthless shit toilet paper Won in your aging soon-to-be-extinct society.

Regards.

ngl, with the rising costs of living, my hard earned Aus dollars are starting to feel like toilet paper too :cry: :cry:

Blackmore898
31-08-2024, 12:37 AM
I don't understand this post. Are you asking for transparency from the shop or from us punters who write the AR?

If it's the latter then that's kinda a dog move. Would you rather us not write ARs at all? Like sorry for missing out certain details if they're not important to me in terms of how I perceive quality service.

I for one have never looked at the advertised age from a shop ad ever and it has never affected whether I book the girl or not. In fact I've never booked a girl based on the age that a shop advertises them to be. As you said 99% of the time their age is inaccurate.

For me it's determined by whether the girl is good looking and does she provide good service. If both criterias are met, age doesn't even cross my mind.

I personally think Zoe looks really young.

Nah.. you must be over 60 if u said zoe looks really young. Hahahha

bloom
31-08-2024, 01:15 AM
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Assandlegs
31-08-2024, 08:19 AM
What a weird thread!
Don't bother checking out their age, a beautiful woman is still a beautiful woman! (And probably way above your/our league IRL).
Enjoy it while you are able, because you never know what tomorrow brings...

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hornedbeast
31-08-2024, 08:31 AM
please know your place too since you're earning Australian dollars, which is worth more than your worthless shit toilet paper Won

Still beats Indian Rupees touched by those shitting on the street or sweeping it away

Meng
31-08-2024, 10:06 AM
Nah.. you must be over 60 if u said zoe looks really young. Hahahha

How old do you think she is?

I never even checked what age the shop put her as cause why bother no shop will put the correct age.

I do agree though she does smoke ciggies cause I picked up on it too. Forgot to put it in my AR cause she was punt number 2 of my back to back punting session and I was kinda feeling a little drained lol.

Keeping Up
31-08-2024, 10:16 AM
I saw K Zoe recently and I’d put her at 30. Thought she was great and a very willing partner. Planned to see her again this week but swapped to K Sweety at the last minute. She’s definitely young. Loved my time with both ladies.

rooter
31-08-2024, 10:47 AM
K Zoe is obviously more than 22yo.
As soon as you see her you see that, but what strikes you more is how freaking sexy and hot she is.
A quick read of the ARs gives you a better idea of Zoe's age.
There are 7 ARs written for Zoe and 4 of them take a guess at her age as follows;
me/rooter - late 20s
Shoretime - late 20s
fapzillagorilla - 30+
slim72 - "Age-wise, I'd put her closer to, but younger than some of the veterans at Ginza"

There are 7 ARs in total for Zoe. They are by me/rooter, Shoretime, Meng, hereforgoodtime, fapzillagorilla, springwater, slim72.
All of them are very positive and say very similar things - sexy attractive face, hot fit slim body, warm friendly personality, excellent/outstanding service.
This AR by Pleadinsanity is also generally positive. He just has an issue with the advertised age which is fair enough. All I can suggest is read some ARs before booking. There's always some good info on the Forum.

cometoIndia
31-08-2024, 04:43 PM
Still beats Indian Rupees touched by those shitting on the street or sweeping it away

Good thing I earn USD from my work mate

paulgallen
31-08-2024, 08:57 PM
😂😂😂

This thread went off on a weird tangent. Had a good laugh tho.

Yeh another classic thread that turn into a shit fight , my dick is bigger than yours

cometoIndia
31-08-2024, 10:38 PM
Yeh another classic thread that turn into a shit fight , my dick is bigger than yours

What fight? Who’s fighting?

- A user politely complained, which is valid
- Some random Korean suddenly mocking all of us here. Uglier than Korean men.
- I defended all of us
- I got racist attack somehow (?) what the fuck?

hornedbeast
31-08-2024, 11:38 PM
- I got racist attack somehow (?) what the fuck?

You omitted the bit where you insulted the Korean with a racist taunt. Otherwise a good summary, thank you.

cometoIndia
31-08-2024, 11:55 PM
You omitted the bit where you insulted the Korean with a racist taunt. Otherwise a good summary, thank you.

Who attacked all of us here especially Aussies? And what’s that have to do with you? Are you Korean? Pretty sure you are this.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfpF3eaCL27dfC-MYr-LfPjyu6XwI1trcdNHnJf13C88baSe6QftEc2iY&s=10

Spacestar
01-09-2024, 02:00 AM
Who attacked all of us here especially Aussies? And what’s that have to do with you? Are you Korean? Pretty sure you are this.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfpF3eaCL27dfC-MYr-LfPjyu6XwI1trcdNHnJf13C88baSe6QftEc2iY&s=10

to be honest, some of ARs maybe getting paid to do ,some of you can experience/feel it after you visited multi times based on some reports. most of reports are very subjective , some people prefer big ass/meaty (size 7+) and some punters only like slim/skinny models body.


you can only get like 10% or 20% true information based on Description or ARs from other people unless you meet the lady.

you got to be kidding me if you truly believe the age statement.

my punting experiences from multi shops told me services Korean > Jap = Chinese ( haven`t visited any Ts or Vs lady)

Faster
01-09-2024, 02:53 AM
Saw many positive reviews of K Zoe recently. She was the only one available within my short punting windows, most of the J girls that I wanted to see were not available or booked out. So settled with Zoe. Service wise she was excellent. Thou, the ciggie breath did bother me so only LFK rather than DFK. The other thing that bothers me after the session is the transparency of the profile age. I don't know why more punters don't point this out. Ginza is very thoughtful with their feedback which I applaud them for.

I have always added +8 or more to the profile age. (if age is 24+ but for K girl - you need to start at 22. Look at all the k service queen and the profile age of not change) Now, I need to add +12 at the least. What do others think?

Yes, I am a picky bastard and don't compare me if I was in another place other than Sydney. I've been spoiled with going to Ginza and No5. I don't do rnt anymore of what is offered at ginza.

I like them young but legal, slim and pretty face. Service is secondary, I'm a one shot guy so 30 min is all I need. If they fit my criteria, all I need is BBBJ without teeth, tight pussy to gently pump (please be gentle) and CIM to finish. Don't have to be a service queen to offer this. I guess most of the service queens of ginza are outside of my criteria.

I ranted about the same issue with <a href="http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129839-K-Min-Meh-Not-my-cup-of-tea">K Min</a> Surprising ginza management did listen and changed age to 30 instead of 25. And add Mature as a description.

As you can read, I will still be going there, but now I have finally learned the lesson. Dine on fresh sushi instead of kimchi (with the exception of those NZBK and ABK)

Alright, enough of the shitshow, I will try and steer the conversation back to OP's original topic.

All shops doctor the stats on the profile to some degree. It really shouldn't come as a surprise unless someone is pretty new to punting, but this should become apparent immediately after you've visited 2 different unrelated shops (by unrelated I mean not run by the same group).

You are correct in adding a few years to the profile age of ANY shop to get a more realistic idea of what to expect. The solution of having to add even more years is somewhat simple and fairly reliable based on my experience.

As you mentioned shops do not update the profile age of someone who has been working there for a few years, so what you need to do is dig up the earliest AR of that person and factor the time difference in. To illustrate, let's use an example and assume:

1. the profile age of someone who has been working there since their debut has remained unchanged at 18
2. the earliest AR of that person is from 2020 (+4 year difference since we are in 2024)
3. 8 years is what gets you a realistic age of someone debuting at the shops you frequent.

Then your actual guestimate should be 18 + 4 + 8 = 30

The first and second bits of information are relatively easy to obtain, the difficulty is determining the number for the 3rd and even more so if you frequent a lot of different shops.

I hope that all makes sense and is helpful.

Shoretime
01-09-2024, 10:07 AM
Focusing purely on Zoe here and not on the age of other WLs, I left a very positive AR for Zoe and put her at late 20s, and after going back to see her twice I would still put her at late 20s or 30 MAX. I'm also on the younger side (< 30) so I feel pretty confident with my estimate. You can believe what you want to believe though.

Zoobender
01-09-2024, 04:41 PM
Focusing purely on Zoe here and not on the age of other WLs, I left a very positive AR for Zoe and put her at late 20s, and after going back to see her twice I would still put her at late 20s or 30 MAX. I'm also on the younger side (< 30) so I feel pretty confident with my estimate. You can believe what you want to believe though.

She is atleast mid 30s. I saw her recently. Service is good as other reviews have said it she has slight smokers breath so that might turn you off. It did for me. 2 shots in 1 hr and I held her hands behind her back while she was on her knees deep throating me. I haven't been back to see her again, but my experience with her was good.