suggestion for Ginza regarding Indians.

[Sendmetheacti]

Just had a look at the page and realised that it's almost 99% no Indians.

As an Indian guy born in AU. This kinda sucks that a bunch of immigrants ruined such a good thing.

In any case, I have an idea.
Allow indians that get VIP Ginza cards to build 'up' to qualify for women.

IE. There is a small subset of Ginza girls that don't have non-indian.

If you are indian you HAVE to go with them. If the punt goes well, with no complaints, you build 'reputation'..

This then unlocks other women.

I think this is a fair system that both protects women from a race of horrifyingly bad people, while also maximizing profits and 'letting the good ones through', and building customer loyalty.

[Kawaiionnanoko]

Just had a look at the page and realised that it's almost 99% no Indians.

As an Indian guy born in AU. This kinda sucks that a bunch of immigrants ruined such a good thing.

In any case, I have an idea.
Allow indians that get VIP Ginza cards to build 'up' to qualify for women.

IE. There is a small subset of Ginza girls that don't have non-indian.

If you are indian you HAVE to go with them. If the punt goes well, with no complaints, you build 'reputation'..

This then unlocks other women.

I think this is a fair system that both protects women from a race of horrifyingly bad people, while also maximizing profits and 'letting the good ones through', and building customer loyalty.
Good approach to get what you want. Fingers crossed some allowances improvements from the establishment.
While waiting maybe you can try 45George at Clyde 80% are Japanese girls age 22-25 as I have visited Sakura and Miwako. Haven’t visited the rest but on my visiting list

[tcrawford]

What you describe is a customer rating system, it's a nice idea in theory and doesn't necessarily have to only be for Indians, it could apply to everyone. It won't work since that's too much administration overhead for the shop unless they build a good computer system which we all know they can't do, since their website is still garbage. Plus they still will have to convince some FOB asian girl to erase their preconceived ideas of Indian men. It's not Ginza management you are trying to convince, its the girl, if it was up to Ginza management they wouldn't have any restrictions on customers.

If I was Indian I would just do RNT and try to get upgrade extras through this way. The reason being is RNT girls don't have such a strict "no indian" clause since its YMMV. Once you meet the girl you can work on your reputation with her.

[Sendmetheacti]

Well the logic being It would simply create two tiers of indian customers.

One a set of well paying, hygienic, Indians many of whom are born here.

And the second a bunch do fresh unshowered immigrant uber drivers that are trying to get discounts on a root before the next drive.

And that lets the girls themselves distinguish between these two groups.

If Ginza wants to expand at some point they probably will run into a cap of customer base and so this seems like a no brainer way to unblock that.

[jxlee]

Nice proposal, but at the end of the day it should be the women's choice,

Like girls not wanting to see guys from their own race, regardless of 'reputation'.

[11Bravo]

Too much overhead work for too little gain.

And who's to say pressure, financial inducement, whatever would be used by some to skew the system.

Solution: Hope the Buddhists are correct and you reincarnate into a more acceptable, hate to say it, but skin. The world is not fair, and whoever told you it was was lying. Sad but true. Get used to it and be happy with what you have. If you've ever traveled, you'll be glad you were born/live in OZ. Even if you haven't, ask yourself why so many girls are working, and for quite a number, it's NOT to buy some flash item, but to better her life in the way she can.

Travel: when you're young, it broadens your horizons. When you're old, it confirms your prejudices.

[Sendmetheacti]

Hmmmm... Well if anyone from Ginza is reading this.

Id be happy to build a system like this on the cheap or even perhaps for free.

[Zoobender]

Hmmmm... Well if anyone from Ginza is reading this.

Id be happy to build a system like this on the cheap or even perhaps for free.

This is actually a really bad idea but dressed up as a good idea. Nothing personal against the OP I think he is trying to solve the problem with a constructive approach BUT when building a business case you have to ask what is in it for the customer, in this case Ops customer is Ginza and the Girl. I think Ginza will see the benefits... More eligible customers equals more revenue for them. But they won't want the administration head ache this brings. I don't think they are negetively impacted at all by the restrictions because there are enough customers of other races. So Ginza will say no thanks... And your solution actually does nothing to solve the problem for the girls. They have no reason to try out this system when they don't want to see Indian customers lol. They will just flat out say this is stupid. No thanks.

You need to solve the problem for the girl and in no universe will she agree. This is a bad idea, please don't invest any time or money into this. For those reasons I'm not going to invest today and say that I'm out. I wish you all the best.

[Zoobender]

A better system for the Indians would be to make friends with a punter here and go for 3 ways, it's less likely they will turn you down since they have to turn away 2 customer and upset the non Indian...this idea has more merit. You both get to fuck the girl, we improve Indian vs other race relations and Ginza makes more money. You're welcome

Regards Mr Wonderful

[mn69]

Its up to the girl.

At end of the day, its not about the money. Even if they are getting paid for it, alot of these girls are probably just disgusted at the thought of being kissed & groped by an Indian man. Plus the potential rude, abusive disrespectful behaviour.

And doesnt matter if its a newly migrated smelly Indian with bad manners or a well educated Indian Billionaire, Businessman, lawyer, doctor, engineer etc.

To the girls, Indian is Indian & its just not worth the money for them

[Sendmetheacti]

I suppose that's my misunderstanding of the situation.

Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.

[themort]

Imagine an Indian trying to create a caste system?

[Meng]

Well the logic being It would simply create two tiers of indian customers.

One a set of well paying, hygienic, Indians many of whom are born here.


Hmm interesting concept. We can create a caste system. We'll call the lowest level Indians Dalit and maybe the Australian born Indians Brahims.

Legit advice:

Try brothels that might be located in areas with more Indians. Chances are the girls working there would be less likely to reject Indian customers given the demographic. No way Ginza would adopt this system given the cost to benefit ratio even if you offer to build the system for free.

Given a high percentage of their customers are Asians anyways. Adopting this system is not worth their time.

[11Bravo]

Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

I'd say one, or the other, or both, depending on the individual girl.


If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.
You're talking about a human problem. Not all human problems can be solved by technology. Attitude, tradition, culture - works against a solution on BOTH sides.

[mn69]

I don't believe girls should be forced to see certain men who she doesnt want to get intimate with.

This would be un-democratic & goes against everything that Australia, the UK & the United States of America stands for.

Ginza & No5, 42 + the other shops still has to take care of their girls at end of the day. Otherwise they wont work well, go home early as they had a rough customer, or next customers will suffer as the girl will be in a bad mood.

Otherwise you gotta tell your people to stop acting like fools here, in Thailand & other parts of Asia where the girls also dont want to see Indians.

[Sendmetheacti]

Well, perhaps a simply higher rate for Indians would make sense then.

Afterall the girls wouldn't see ANY customers if they weren't paying.
The idea that women have the right not to have sex with a certain customer sounds noble and it is..

But let's face it the entire industry is based around paying women money so they will sleep with men that they don't want to sleep with. It makes perfect sense to just have an 'indian' tier pricing of like +$50 or something

In that respect were all indian... Just some more so lol.

[roooter]

In all life situations there will be response of yes and no. Girls in this industry have every right to make their choice. No means no. Move on

[SlippinJimmy]

Just say you identify as asian.

[mn69]

Well, perhaps a simply higher rate for Indians would make sense then.

Afterall the girls wouldn't see ANY customers if they weren't paying.
The idea that women have the right not to have sex with a certain customer sounds noble and it is..

But let's face it the entire industry is based around paying women money so they will sleep with men that they don't want to sleep with. It makes perfect sense to just have an 'indian' tier pricing of like +$50 or something

In that respect were all indian... Just some more so lol.

It could work. Thats pretty much what some of the Thai girls in Pattaya, Thailand are doing now anyway

Young handsome guy - Free

Old bald fat Farang -2000-3000 baht Short Time

Indian guy - 8000 baht Short Time (if she's happy to see an Indian man)

[robnorth]

I suppose that's my misunderstanding of the situation.

Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.

No2 then no1. Similar parallels could be drawn about Caucasian women dating/going for Asian dudes. Similar being the prejudice.

[Sendmetheacti]

No2 then no1. Similar parallels could be drawn about Caucasian women dating/going for Asian dudes. Similar being the prejudice.

Caucasian women are brainwashed by the media though to be egalitarian. So while they understand on some level that a white guy is more handsome than an Indian guy... They don't like discriminating explicitly.

But Asian women from Asia have no such media brainwashing. So they are a lot more explicit.

[GoldfishMan]

Just say you identify as asian.
Tape your eyes back and say you identify as Asian.

EDIT: And go easy on the head wobbling.

[Sendmetheacti]

Tape your eyes back and say you identify as Asian.

EDIT: And go easy on the head wobbling.

Gotta come in with a neck brace.

[blackm0nk]

Caucasian women are brainwashed by the media though to be egalitarian. So while they understand on some level that a white guy is more handsome than an Indian guy... They don't like discriminating explicitly.

But Asian women from Asia have no such media brainwashing. So they are a lot more explicit.

I think you just need to accept that your type just aren’t as respectful as others when it comes to sex workers. No point crying about it. Stereotypes exist for a reason and while you may not be like the rest, the fact remains the majority are like that so to avoid an unsafe / unpleasant situation, it’s just easier to lay a blanket ban.

[Sendmetheacti]

I think you just need to accept that your type just aren’t as respectful as others when it comes to sex workers. No point crying about it. Stereotypes exist for a reason and while you may not be like the rest, the fact remains the majority are like that so to avoid an unsafe / unpleasant situation, it’s just easier to lay a blanket ban.

Make no mistake, I as an indian guy will tell you that place (India) is breeding chaos itself and accepting more indian immigrants WILL destroy any country they go to. It's so much worse than just sex workers that are suffering lol. Indian people in small amounts are great, they follow rules, study hard, avoid crime and fights.

En masse they are a demographic cancer that will spread and kill the host or worse, turn the host nation into India. These people literally got kicked out of Zimbabwe and other African countries. Let that sink in.


BUT... solving that problem is way above pay grade. And I'm here now so I gotta make do with cards dealt.

It IS easier to blanket ban, but if there is a technical solution or financial solution that would remove the need to blanket ban and get the best of both worlds, that's what I'm considering here.

[MasterBateman]

The financial solution would be to Pay more :D

[Harp0]

How about you guys just open your own brothel and have it as Indian only, no Caucasian, no Asian.

[tommyb]

I like the idea in theory but I just don't see Ginza ever bother implementing something like this unless they're desperate for bookings which I don't think they will be anytime soon. Too much admin headaches, sorry bro. Plenty of other brothels that do serve Indians out there.

[Sendmetheacti]

How about you guys just open your own brothel and have it as Indian only, no Caucasian, no Asian.

I think this is the case in Thailand.

There are plenty of places in Sydney that are fine with indian guys. I'm just thinking of creative ways to handle the 'no indian' at Ginza.

[Sendmetheacti]

I think you just need to accept that your type just aren’t as respectful as others when it comes to sex workers. No point crying about it. Stereotypes exist for a reason and while you may not be like the rest, the fact remains the majority are like that so to avoid an unsafe / unpleasant situation, it’s just easier to lay a blanket ban.


I like the idea in theory but I just don't see Ginza ever bother implementing something like this unless they're desperate for bookings which I don't think they will be anytime soon. Too much admin headaches, sorry bro. Plenty of other brothels that do serve Indians out there.

I suppose it depends on what Ginza's future plans are.

More shops?
More girls?
In a country with rapidly growing indian immigration, if growth is the plan this is going to have to be solved sooner or later.

[Zoobender]

Make no mistake, I as an indian guy will tell you that place (India) is breeding chaos itself and accepting more indian immigrants WILL destroy any country they go to. It's so much worse than just sex workers that are suffering lol. Indian people in small amounts are great, they follow rules, study hard, avoid crime and fights.

En masse they are a demographic cancer that will spread and kill the host or worse, turn the host nation into India. These people literally got kicked out of Zimbabwe and other African countries. Let that sink in.


BUT... solving that problem is way above pay grade. And I'm here now so I gotta make do with cards dealt.

It IS easier to blanket ban, but if there is a technical solution or financial solution that would remove the need to blanket ban and get the best of both worlds, that's what I'm considering here.

LOL you turned out to be the most racist one here regarding Indians. Plot twist...

I agree with you in theory, blanket ban excludes decent people from India/Pakistan etc. But no one cares. It isn't impacting business enough for the shops. Maybe best to take your money elsewhere, don't even go to the shop. If they lost every Indian customer they may start to feel financial pressure. The issue will still remain though, the girls can't be forced to see customer or provide services they don't want to provide.

I think the business model here is more of a contractor style not a FT employee. Basically the girls are running their own business and are just renting rooms from the shop. So shop can't exactly push them to do anything. They can suggest and also give them feedback etc but on things like this they probably can't do much.

Also I've noticed this in particular with Japanese girls. In Japan there is also restrictions placed by shops or girls ie Japanese only, they don't fuck guys from any other country including white. They bring in Thai girls for fucking everyone. So for them restricting a whole race isn't uncommon.

[robnorth]

Make no mistake, I as an indian guy will tell you that place (India) is breeding chaos itself and accepting more indian immigrants WILL destroy any country they go to. It's so much worse than just sex workers that are suffering lol. Indian people in small amounts are great, they follow rules, study hard, avoid crime and fights.

En masse they are a demographic cancer that will spread and kill the host or worse, turn the host nation into India. These people literally got kicked out of Zimbabwe and other African countries. Let that sink in.


BUT... solving that problem is way above pay grade. And I'm here now so I gotta make do with cards dealt.

It IS easier to blanket ban, but if there is a technical solution or financial solution that would remove the need to blanket ban and get the best of both worlds, that's what I'm considering here.

Demographic cancer is probably overstepping the severity of it. It's more like... demographic herpes.

Definitely opening a can of worms here, but I would say the 'Western Australian' categorises Muslims as the demographic cancer.

There, I said it.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Caucasian women are brainwashed by the media though to be egalitarian. So while they understand on some level that a white guy is more handsome than an Indian guy... They don't like discriminating explicitly.

But Asian women from Asia have no such media brainwashing. So they are a lot more explicit.

Lol. Do you even know any women? (Other than family and sex workers)

[Sendmetheacti]

Demographic cancer is probably overstepping the severity of it. It's more like... demographic herpes.

Definitely opening a can of worms here, but I would say the 'Western Australian' categorises Muslims as the demographic cancer.

There, I said it.

See I don't think so.

Islam has its problems, but given complete domination it allows civilisation and society to flourish.
Yes civil liberties would go to hell and women won't have rights and well all wear dumb clothes and bow to the east... But we'll have civilisation.

With Indians. It is chaos itself.

[Rainyex28]

I'm an Australian born Viet bloke. Most caucasian, middle eastern, wog girls don't want to date me (I also don't want to date them). It's entirely their preference mate, I fully respect and I don't even care to try and prove them wrong.

Such is life bro. In these instances they are allowed to be prejudice and I for one support it

[trippo]

Hmm interesting concept. We can create a caste system. We'll call the lowest level Indians Dalit and maybe the Australian born Indians Brahims.

Legit advice:

Try brothels that might be located in areas with more Indians. Chances are the girls working there would be less likely to reject Indian customers given the demographic. No way Ginza would adopt this system given the cost to benefit ratio even if you offer to build the system for free.

Given a high percentage of their customers are Asians anyways. Adopting this system is not worth their time.

Add one more category of Indian/Nepalese people looking like chinese. Let's call it 'Chindian'. Chiandians and Brahmins should be allowed inside Ginza 🤣🤣

[MrPB]

Make no mistake, I as an indian guy will tell you that place (India) is breeding chaos itself and accepting more indian immigrants WILL destroy any country they go to. It's so much worse than just sex workers that are suffering lol. Indian people in small amounts are great, they follow rules, study hard, avoid crime and fights.

En masse they are a demographic cancer that will spread and kill the host or worse, turn the host nation into India. These people literally got kicked out of Zimbabwe and other African countries. Let that sink in.


BUT... solving that problem is way above pay grade. And I'm here now so I gotta make do with cards dealt.

It IS easier to blanket ban, but if there is a technical solution or financial solution that would remove the need to blanket ban and get the best of both worlds, that's what I'm considering here.

I didn't want to weigh in on this conversation because it's been done to death already.,

Like another member said, this thought process sounds eerily similar to Ginza's/Girls. It is disappointing the world generalises.

Ultimately, the requirements are set by the girls and for their own personal reasons (trauma, an ex, repeated issues). Just like how you have preferences for girls.

[nosytt]

Imagine an Indian trying to create a caste system?

Ahahahaha gold!

[Sendmetheacti]

I didn't want to weigh in on this conversation because it's been done to death already.,

Like another member said, this thought process sounds eerily similar to Ginza's/Girls. It is disappointing the world generalises.

Ultimately, the requirements are set by the girls and for their own personal reasons (trauma, an ex, repeated issues). Just like how you have preferences for girls.

That's true for sure. But if you look at how this industry works. The girls don't want to fuck the guys to begin with. We simply pay them money to do so.

Given that logic, wouldn't it make sense to simply pay them more so to fuck men they don't want to fuck even more?

IE. An Indian tier pricing? +50 or +100 on all regular prices?

[Kiryu0]

That's true for sure. But if you look at how this industry works. The girls don't want to fuck the guys to begin with. We simply pay them money to do so.

Given that logic, wouldn't it make sense to simply pay them more so to fuck men they don't want to fuck even more?

IE. An Indian tier pricing? +50 or +100 on all regular prices?

That's a leap in logic. Just coz they fuck guys for money doesn't mean they'll fuck shittier guys for even more money.

Okay, how about double or triple the price and they'll consider it? You can't expect a little bit extra is worth the stress on the girls or the shop

[Johny77]

Not this again. There are 2 or more similar threads covering the same topic. In those threads, there is mention of how pushy Indian punters can be etc. I am not going to get involved the whole racial debate other than to say the girls have a choice and that is the way it should be. Continuing to push Ginza to force the girls to see those of an Indian background, plays to the stereotype that Indians are pushy.

There are plenty of girls that see Asian only. Well, that rules a large portion of punters out. Oh well, their choice.

Boys, just let it go already.

[Sendmetheacti]

Double triple the price is fine.
The market will do the rest.

[themort]

Like another member said, this thought process sounds eerily similar to Ginza's/Girls. It is disappointing the world generalises.

It's a generalisation but it's also very common for people from these regions to have issues with cleanliness, and once they pay they treat the girl like they own them, don't take no for an answer etc. All cultural things.

It's also the choice of the service provider, so that's where it starts and ends.

The truth is there are some Indians around pulling the cancelled deposit scam, I've heard it from multiple girls I know - and they can't return to somewhere they pulled it.

So they get around EVERY shop doing it, and you know what? Those shops and girls will just say no more.

[Zoobender]

Double triple the price is fine.
The market will do the rest.

Again this doesn't solve the issue and you come across as pushy.... You are saying they fuck guys for money and therefore they should fuck someone they don't want to for more money, that makes no sense. If I found a girl unattractive I wouldn't pay to fuck her and if she said I'll give you a discount I still wouldn't fuck her.

I reckon you are the reason the Indians are banned based on some of your posts here. If you have a real problem with the ban talk to Ginza directly and see what happens then report back. Quit acting like a little bitch. Your idea has less legs then the opening ceremony of the paralympics.

[Sendmetheacti]

Not this again. There are 2 or more similar threads covering the same topic. In those threads, there is mention of how pushy Indian punters can be etc. I am not going to get involved the whole racial debate other than to say the girls have a choice and that is the way it should be. Continuing to push this for Ginza to force the girls to see those of an Indian background, plays to the stereotype that Indians are pushy.

There are plenty of girls that see Asian only. Well, that rules a large portion of punters out. Oh well, their choice.

Boys, just let it go already.

There's a difference between being pushy and begging..

And trying to solve a business problem in a way that benefits all participants.

This thread is doing the later, which differentiates it from the other threads which seem to have devolved into random indian people yelling racism as loud as they can.

[Kiryu0]

There's a difference between being pushy and begging..

And trying to solve a business problem in a way that benefits all participants.

This thread is doing the later, which differentiates it from the other threads which seem to have devolved into random indian people yelling racism as loud as they can.

This ain't a business problem if they aren't having any issues to being with. You're trying to solve an issue that is affecting you and not the business.

If Ginza/Ginza Club was having operating issues because they become Asian only then sure, but we have yet to see that to be the case.

Don't try to justify this one sidely. Ginza don't even need the system for perhaps marginally better profit.

[mn69]

There are some things money can’t buy.

( Like fucking a 10/10 jav girl if you’re Indian)

For everything else, there’s Mastercard.

Hahaha. But in this case, not even a Mastercard will do

Imagine being an Indian Billionaire with a Black AMEX Centurion card & still getting declined

[roooter]

No means no , - pushy / beg does not make a difference.

[Double_Adapter]

For fucks sake! which part of NO don't these cunts understand?

If the chick says No Indians she means NO fucken Indians
If the chick says No old fat farangs she means NO fucken old fat farangs

The solution is fucken simple, go elsewhere where you are accepted.
There's plenty of pussy up for grabs (and raw pussy at that), you just gotta get off your arse and put a bit of effort and you'll find the pussy.

This ABV bro has the right modus operandi, and some could take a leaf from his book.


I'm an Australian born Viet bloke. Most caucasian, middle eastern, wog girls don't want to date me (I also don't want to date them). It's entirely their preference mate, I fully respect and I don't even care to try and prove them wrong.

Such is life bro. In these instances they are allowed to be prejudice and I for one support it

[Shoryureppa]

Open a new shop & call it Quickie-Mart

[Digby]

I don’t see what the fuss is about, there are some Asian girls who don’t see white guys.

There was a very hot tattooed piece at Ginza 6-8 months ago who had it written on her profile. She looked like hot property, nasty and great in bed, like a girl who can take and give a good punt. If a picture tells a thousand words her profile pic was full of expletives!

I so wanted to book her but the profile stated no white guys and I can’t remember if I txt or called management about her but they rang me back. The response time was quick I remember that. You know, when you’re looking at your phone searching where will I go for a punt, you enquire and they ring straight back. I could have very easily been a regular at the place. Destiny chose another. On the call back the shop manager was great, no complaints there, responsive, professional and polite.

Anyway I haven’t been to the shop yet or again looked at their menu, I will though. It’s just a matter of time.

[Climax598]

Just bring $2000 cash for 30min to Ginza girl with No Indians see if any take.

[mn69]

I'm an Australian born Viet bloke. Most caucasian, middle eastern, wog girls don't want to date me (I also don't want to date them). It's entirely their preference mate, I fully respect and I don't even care to try and prove them wrong.

Such is life bro. In these instances they are allowed to be prejudice and I for one support it

Bro, I love Viet girls !! Especially those ABG/LG ones. If I was you, I wouldn't even bother with Caucasian, Middle Eastern, Wog girls.

Viet girls are way hotter & trump those other girls anyway + Viet girls can cook up some nice Pho. Nicer personalities too. So why bother with the other ethnicities lol

I had a Viet GF before. She just cooks me food all day & feeds me, like a Emperor or a Shogun

Its a no brainer....

[Sendmetheacti]

This ain't a business problem if they aren't having any issues to being with. You're trying to solve an issue that is affecting you and not the business.

If Ginza/Ginza Club was having operating issues because they become Asian only then sure, but we have yet to see that to be the case.

Don't try to justify this one sidely. Ginza don't even need the system for perhaps marginally better profit.

In a country that's being flooded with indian immigrants to ridiculous levels.. it's a dumb financial idea growth wise to just shut them out.

It's not a problem today for Ginza.
But I suspect that won't always be the case.

[Sendmetheacti]

Just bring $2000 cash for 30min to Ginza girl with No Indians see if any take.

I suspect every single one of them would. Which is my point.

[trampslikeus55]

In a country that's being flooded with indian immigrants to ridiculous levels.. it's a dumb financial idea growth wise to just shut them out.

It's not a problem today for Ginza.
But I suspect that won't always be the case.
The Ginza crew are next level when it comes to this game. In fact I would say they probably revolutionised it. They are not dumb when it comes to ideas and they do not need advice. Just take a hint. Find a home that you are welcome in, be a nice person to all that live there and you will be OK.

[Johny77]

There's a difference between being pushy and begging..

And trying to solve a business problem in a way that benefits all participants.

This thread is doing the later, which differentiates it from the other threads which seem to have devolved into random indian people yelling racism as loud as they can.

But you’re not solving a business problem. It’s Ginza’s business and they obviously don’t see it as a ‘problem’ that needs solving.

[mn69]

There's a difference between being pushy and begging..

And trying to solve a business problem in a way that benefits all participants.

This thread is doing the later, which differentiates it from the other threads which seem to have devolved into random indian people yelling racism as loud as they can.

Like I said before, you can start by telling all your people to stop acting like fools here, in Thailand & other parts of the world.

Then maybe girls will be happy to see Indian men. But it will take like 2-3 generations to fix this problem & stereotype. Y'all created this problem for yourselves in the first place.

[17012430]

I know an Indian bloke who gets past this rule at Ginza based on being a regular, clean and not being a dickhead.

First time he was offered the top girl on the roster he said “but it says no Indian?” And they told him “we’ve had good feedback about you… very gentle” - there’s a lesson in that.

[GoldfishMan]

Fuck me can you imagine the haggling and the bargaining

You'd think you were at the markets rather than a brothel, loll...

[Abracadabra]

We just need to accept and move on from this. It is what it is!

The girls are providing/selling services that are uniquely up close and personal and it is their prerogative to decide to whom they wish to provide such services.....and more to the point, who they don't, even if it appears as a collective generalisation.

Asian Only has similarities but doesn't attract the same angst.

[Lizardrill]

Damn this topic is still happening?
This has been brought up so many times in different topic names 😵*💫

I understand the OPs issues and i feel bad that Indians (or even anyone that remotely looks like em) get singled out

I also understand why most shops exclude ..they rather be safe and put a blanket rule as because obviously the girls had bad experiences to a point its carried over to streotype

It will be hard to implement what the OP will want..it sounds good in paper but it will be terrible in practice..

[blackm0nk]

We just need to accept and move on from this. It is what it is!

The girls are providing/selling services that are uniquely up close and personal and it is their prerogative to decide to whom they wish to provide such services.....and more to the point, who they don't, even if it appears as a collective generalisation.

Asian Only has similarities but doesn't attract the same angst.

100%! Every now and then I see ads for asian only, me being a whitey, I don’t get upset, I sigh and say “bugger” then continue looking..

[themort]

I don't get why an Indian bloke doesn't go set up a place and target Indian punters, except a) you might struggle for enough girls and b) maybe it's not profitable

[11Bravo]

100%! Every now and then I see ads for asian only, me being a whitey, I don’t get upset, I sigh and say “bugger” then continue looking..

Yep. After all, who wants to be in a room with someone who doesn't want to be there with YOU. The ones that say "No", the ones that quote an OTT price, I have no problem saying "thank you" and moving on. I'm a nice guy, but I don't think it's my job to woo her and win her over. Seems to me some people have to get over the FOMO syndrome and move on. All the whining just fits the stereotype.

[tcrawford]

I know an Indian bloke who gets past this rule at Ginza based on being a regular, clean and not being a dickhead.

First time he was offered the top girl on the roster he said “but it says no Indian?” And they told him “we’ve had good feedback about you… very gentle” - there’s a lesson in that.

This is true, when I was a regular at Ginza/Empire I was allowed to see Asian Only and I'm not Asian, this is definitely due to how you treat the girl.

[roooter]

This is true, when I was a regular at Ginza/Empire I was allowed to see Asian Only and I'm not Asian, this is definitely due to how you treat the girl.

From this, So girls has some degree of personal choice except if management decides otherwise. What if the girl still insist on exercising their choice. Only the girls will be able to tell their side if pressure was applied to cater the regular.

[PleadInsanity]

I don’t see many ‘no Indian’ tag at No5 and 42g. Skip ginza and punt over there instead.

[themort]

Meh I'm a fat farang and I see girls who say "asian only" I just know they think 8" of Aussie beef is gonna do damage to them :)

[SmithChips]

This is pointless - just give up and find other shops. Unfortunately most Indians have BOs regardless of whether Australia or India born. And it's almost as if it's in their DNA that they want to haggle everything, regardless where they are raised. Just the reality to accept.

[blackm0nk]

This is pointless - just give up and find other shops. Unfortunately most Indians have BOs regardless of whether Australia or India born. And it's almost as if it's in their DNA that they want to haggle everything, regardless where they are raised. Just the reality to accept.

Hear hear.

End of topic hopefully.

[Joun23]

It will take decades before you no longer see "no indians" on rosters as those WLs and MLs, especially Japanese and Korean girls who so care about hygiene need to be convinced that Indians (including Bangladesh and Parkistan) take shower everyday keeping their dicks clean and no disgusting smell as well as polite, no haggling and have attitude to respect girls. This also applies to people from some other countries.
Take shower and brush your teeth before you go to see girls.
Everytime I see WLs or MLs, they tell me I smell good and my skin clean so they much enjoy doing cat bath all over my body. I don't have to make an effort to have those girls like me.

[pocket rocket]

Your idea has less legs then the opening ceremony of the paralympics.

Brilliant quote Zoobender, great to see some real humour in a thread nobody really gives a flying fuck about anyway.

Forget about political correctness and all that woke shit, and we can all have a good laugh together with golden quotes likes this !!!!

[mn69]

Meh I'm a fat farang and I see girls who say "asian only" I just know they think 8" of Aussie beef is gonna do damage to them :)

Nice bro. Though I don't think its to do with size

I have alot of PhuYing Thai friends back in Thailand. Nowadays the younger generation, they say they refuse to go with old bald fat Farangs due to "loss of face".

When they go out with a young handsome Farang/Foreigner, especially a handsome Korean guy (which is their preferred type now), then they will "gain face" in the eyes of their peers.

Because it means she is pretty enough to attract a young, handsome Farang/Foreigner

[Sendmetheacti]

This is pointless - just give up and find other shops. Unfortunately most Indians have BOs regardless of whether Australia or India born. And it's almost as if it's in their DNA that they want to haggle everything, regardless where they are raised. Just the reality to accept.

Ideally you shower before the punt. There IS a shower in the room.

[Sendmetheacti]

The problem is mostly immigration like most problems in AU.

There's a stream of unwashed and uncultured uber drivers streaming in non-stop that are eager to come haggle Ginza girls for $20 discount after a 12 hour driving shift.

[blackm0nk]

Ideally you shower before the punt. There IS a shower in the room.

Yes ideally, but clearly this rarely happens. I don’t know about anyone else but I go out of my way to be neat n tidy all over before even going for a massage. Everything. No body hair, everything smelling fragrant, moisturised. Respect for yourself and others.

[mn69]

I don’t see many ‘no Indian’ tag at No5 and 42g. Skip ginza and punt over there instead.

Its just worded differently. It says she "Doesnt take certain clientele at her own discretion"

[Harp0]

I don’t see many ‘no Indian’ tag at No5 and 42g. Skip ginza and punt over there instead.
Correct, but when they confirm your booking they ask you your nationality. I’ve had it happen to me before.

[Zoobender]

Brilliant quote Zoobender, great to see some real humour in a thread nobody really gives a flying fuck about anyway.

Forget about political correctness and all that woke shit, and we can all have a good laugh together with golden quotes likes this !!!!

Thanks mate. It's good to see the woke dickheads like the OP haven't corrupted all the good humoured people just yet

[andrewv]

I don't believe it is just because of "a bunch of [Indian] immigrants ruined such a good thing"

Keep in mind that the "no Indians" is not because one girl had one or two bad experiences with Indians. Often they have experiences with all sorts of punters.
In reality, it must be due many bad experiences with many Indians/Pakistanis.

Migrant culture and habits do not stop when someone is born here vs. arrived from overseas.

[Sendmetheacti]

I don't believe it is just because of "a bunch of [Indian] immigrants ruined such a good thing"

Keep in mind that the "no Indians" is not because one girl had one or two bad experiences with Indians. Often they have experiences with all sorts of punters.
In reality, it must be due many bad experiences with many Indians/Pakistanis.

Migrant culture and habits do not stop when someone is born here vs. arrived from overseas.

I'm not sure I buy the "Indians are genetically predisposed to not showering and mistreating women" angle.

[Amiri]

Should let the Aussie Indian brothers build their rep and then once proven their a good customer and treat women with respect, should be given the ability to inquire with the girl if they will take them on as a customer.

[alex321]

In all fairness it might also be the stench. You may or may not have it as well but seeing as how many Indians are oblivious....

[Costy]

It must suck for the Indians that 99% of new girls are no Indian straight up.
Does that mean the ones that accept anyone are hardened hookers that can take anything?

[Johny77]

Can’t believe there are multiple threads relating to the exact same issue. I can see why the ladies want to steer clear. There is a distinct inability to take ‘no’ for an answer.

[Sendmetheacti]

Can’t believe there are multiple threads relating to the exact same issue. I can see why the ladies want to steer clear. There is a distinct inability to take ‘no’ for an answer.


The way I see it, and the way punting works in general is that all the women have already said 'no' to all the guys. That's why they're paying for it.

[Johny77]

The way I see it, and the way punting works in general is that all the women have already said 'no' to all the guys. That's why they're paying for it.

That’s your argument?

The sooner you realise ‘no’ actually means ‘no’, the better.

[doosan208602]

There are a lot of racists here ㅡ.ㅡ

[Abracadabra]

Racism is a most missused word when more often or not the reference is aimed at behaviours.

[suka03]

sorry to say but it’s not the girls type of preferences. It’s like tasting food, if she doesn’t like it you can’t force it. I really do think is because of the majority experience the girls received can be various of reason that i know one of them is attitude, I know it may effects the few good people like you. There are also lot of other shops who still accepts just because 1 or few doesn’t accept. Don’t waste your energy forcing anyone to service you.

[Johny77]

There are a lot of racists here ㅡ.ㅡ

A word often used when you have no other comeback or are losing an argument. Most of the comments have not been racist. The key issue here, is a sex worker’s right to choose. I really do not understand why that is so difficult to understand.

[Zoobender]

The way I see it, and the way punting works in general is that all the women have already said 'no' to all the guys. That's why they're paying for it.

This post is dumber than a can of baked beans. No wonder no woman wants to fuck you.

[Abracadabra]

The way I see it, and the way punting works in general is that all the women have already said 'no' to all the guys. That's why they're paying for it.

Haha .... tongue in cheek or a provocative swipe, when all else fails.

[Sendmetheacti]

That’s your argument?

The sooner you realise ‘no’ actually means ‘no’, the better.

This post is dumber than a can of baked beans. No wonder no woman wants to fuck you.



I'm just saying from a business perspective this isn't an unsolvable problem.
I think the argument 'the girls don't want to' is fair enough, and if they really don't want to for any amount of money... then who am I to disagree.

HOWEVER, we are literally in the business of making girls do things they don't want to do for money. Let's be absolutely clear about that. If you are disagreeing with this point, I wish you the best in life sir, and withdraw from this conversation at this point.

But assume you agree,

GIVEN we're in such an industry, I'm simply saying surely; we're talking a problem of magnitude, not kind, and so simply setting a higher rate for Indians, or a more pragmatic approach to the problems they pose is a possibility at the very least.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Racism is a most missused word when more often or not the reference is aimed at behaviours.

If people were just talking about individual behaviours then they wouldn't bring race into though, right?

[Sendmetheacti]

There are a lot of racists here ㅡ.ㅡ

As the OP of this thread, I'm telling you. That word has no place here.
I'm sick of Indian people shitting in the streets, and when called out on it, claiming it's racism.

Fair critiques are fair, and we should try to address the problems people are presenting rather than screaming racism, and doing it again. Regardless of how brazenly and un-eloquently that feedback is presented, it's still feedback.

[Abracadabra]

If people were just talking about individual behaviours then they wouldn't bring race into though, right?

No, they are referring to collective behaviours that are disproportionately traceable to a particular group.

[PussyBonpensiero]

No, they are referring to collective behaviours that are disproportionately traceable to a particular group.

So what is it called when you tar an entire race or an individual with the same brush?

[Sendmetheacti]

So what is it called when you tar an entire race or an individual with the same brush?

Statistically valid criticism.

[Zoobender]

Statistically valid criticism.

Hahahahahaha most racist against Indian is also Indian... Fmd

[PussyBonpensiero]

Statistically valid criticism.

So I guess it's fair to call this a racist forum then?

[Abracadabra]

So what is it called when you tar an entire race or an individual with the same brush?

Note, I said disproportionately and not an entirety.

When a particular group exhibits behaviours that others find unpleasant and at times socially acceptable, is it wrong to call it out and say no, I won't accept that?

Or do we bury such behaviours and accept under pressure of the all encompassing racism tag?

[Abracadabra]

So I guess it's fair to call this a racist forum then?

Enjoy your fishing mate ....

[Johny77]

Note, I said disproportionately and not an entirety.

When a particular group exhibits behaviours that others find unpleasant and at times socially acceptable, is it wrong to call it out and say no, I won't accept that?

Or do we bury such behaviours and accept under pressure of the all encompassing racism tag?

Fair point, totally agree.

[11Bravo]

Bottom line: whoever told you that life is fair............they lied. Get over it.

[HamishAM]

I used to go to Ginza quite often, almost 1-2 a week and I'd usually even see girls who said no indian (Im half Fijian / Indian but mostly look indian I guess). It doesn't bother me too much as I understand from the girls perspective why they wouldn't want to see an Indian person. I have stopped going there now as it's just difficult to see how 85% of the roster is no Indian and I dont have a 100% chance of booking them even if i show up with my good reputation. I think to all the indian gentlemen out there, just dont take it personally, find another shop or try and build up a good reputation. Change the stigma but don't keep feeding into it.

[Sendmetheacti]

So I guess it's fair to call this a racist forum then?

No,

When one forum constantly shits on a race. Maybe it's racist.

If half the world and hookers from countries that literally don't have Indians post "no Indians"

Perhaps it's the Indians that are the problem.

At that point calling racism is a fatal mistake. The one way to fix this is to address the concerns people bring.

The moment you start yelling racism, you also say 'i will NOT change my behaviour'.

It's the same vein as "its the girls problem she doesn't want to fuck me". It's a disastrous attitude that locks in discrimination forever.

I don't want that. You don't want that either. So stop yelling racism and listen to what these people are saying and ask if it's actually valid.

[mn69]

I used to go to Ginza quite often, almost 1-2 a week and I'd usually even see girls who said no indian (Im half Fijian / Indian but mostly look indian I guess). It doesn't bother me too much as I understand from the girls perspective why they wouldn't want to see an Indian person. I have stopped going there now as it's just difficult to see how 85% of the roster is no Indian and I dont have a 100% chance of booking them even if i show up with my good reputation. I think to all the indian gentlemen out there, just dont take it personally, find another shop or try and build up a good reputation. Change the stigma but don't keep feeding into it.

It sucks that the bad Indian men ruined it for the good ones.

But like I said before, you have to tell your people to stop acting like fools here and in other countries.

I seen how they are even overseas. They are also very disrespectful towards Thai girls when they go to Thailand. They have to start respecting women.

Then maybe your entire race wouldn't get blacklisted by women who place themselves in a vulnerable position when providing these intimate services.

[PussyBonpensiero]

No,

When one forum constantly shits on a race. Maybe it's racist.

If half the world and hookers from countries that literally don't have Indians post "no Indians"

Perhaps it's the Indians that are the problem.

At that point calling racism is a fatal mistake. The one way to fix this is to address the concerns people bring.

The moment you start yelling racism, you also say 'i will NOT change my behaviour'.

It's the same vein as "its the girls problem she doesn't want to fuck me". It's a disastrous attitude that locks in discrimination forever.

I don't want that. You don't want that either. So stop yelling racism and listen to what these people are saying and ask if it's actually valid.

I am not saying it's racist for girls to say no Indians. They should be free to choose who they see.

I am talking about all the posters who leap at the opportunity to say that all Indians are are cunts who stink and abuse women. It's weird that people get more upset about calling out racism than they do at actual racist comments.

"When one forum constantly shits on a race. Maybe it's racist." This is a fact and I'm just pointing it out. I'm not yelling.

And "fatal mistake"? Who's dying because of my comments? Hyperbole is counterproductive.

[DireStraits]

And "fatal mistake"? Who's dying because of my comments? Hyperbole is counterproductive.

I used to react similarly when I saw someone misuse the phrase. The thing is though, it has become common for people to use "fatal mistake" in a figurative sense, meaning a serious or grave error, even when it doesn't involve actual death. This shift reflects how language evolves, with words or phrases taking on broader or less literal meanings in everyday speech. "fatal" now emphasises the gravity of the mistake, implying that it has severe or irreversible consequences, even if it's not literally life-threatening.

By the way, completely agree with the rest of your post!

[PussyBonpensiero]

I used to react similarly when I saw someone misuse the phrase. The thing is though, it has become common for people to use "fatal mistake" in a figurative sense, meaning a serious or grave error, even when it doesn't involve actual death. This shift reflects how language evolves, with words or phrases taking on broader or less literal meanings in everyday speech. "fatal" now emphasises the gravity of the mistake, implying that it has severe or irreversible consequences, even if it's not literally life-threatening.

By the way, completely agree with the rest of your post!

Yeah I know, it's a losing battle to save the meaning of some words. "Literally" is gone now and there's no word to take it's place!

[Sendmetheacti]

I am not saying it's racist for girls to say no Indians. They should be free to choose who they see.

I am talking about all the posters who leap at the opportunity to say that all Indians are are cunts who stink and abuse women. It's weird that people get more upset about calling out racism than they do at actual racist comments.

"When one forum constantly shits on a race. Maybe it's racist." This is a fact and I'm just pointing it out. I'm not yelling.

And "fatal mistake"? Who's dying because of my comments? Hyperbole is counterproductive.

Fatal to the improvement of our race's image.

No one. Has EVER. improved their station in life by yelling racism..

Black people have been yelling racism for 300 years in the US and they are still mostly poor with low quality of life.

Meanwhile Asian like Koreans even including Indians arrived in the US with nothing, and ended up climbing to the top of the earning ladder with very good life quality within a single fucking generation.

That surely is a cautionary tale of the black hole of effort and progress that calling racism creates.

It is literally fatal to your hopes of social improvement. You can spend the next 500 years calling racism and your people will still be where they started. Or you can spend 50 years finding practical solutions and solving the problem.

Look at the Japanese. Basically little better than feudal tribes. The British arrive with guns and steam ships and started pressuring then with trade terms.

If they called racism at that point. They would still be calling racist today living in huts.

The first thing they fucking said was "we suck, they are far more advanced than us we must learn."

100 years later Japan literally fights a war against a quarter of the world and wipes the floor with them. Gets nuked. And builds one of the world's largest economies off the back of being nuked.

I strongly fucking believe the moment you call racism. It's over for you. It's will lock you into your current state and remove progress from the set of possible outcomes.

[Joun23]

No,

When one forum constantly shits on a race. Maybe it's racist.

If half the world and hookers from countries that literally don't have Indians post "no Indians"

Perhaps it's the Indians that are the problem.

At that point calling racism is a fatal mistake. The one way to fix this is to address the concerns people bring.

The moment you start yelling racism, you also say 'i will NOT change my behaviour'.

It's the same vein as "its the girls problem she doesn't want to fuck me". It's a disastrous attitude that locks in discrimination forever.

I don't want that. You don't want that either. So stop yelling racism and listen to what these people are saying and ask if it's actually valid.

Very well said!

[Double_Adapter]

Fatal to the improvement of our race's image.

No one. Has EVER. improved their station in life by yelling racism..

Black people have been yelling racism for 300 years in the US and they are still mostly poor with low quality of life.

Meanwhile Asian like Koreans even including Indians arrived in the US with nothing, and ended up climbing to the top of the earning ladder with very good life quality within a single fucking generation.

That surely is a cautionary tale of the black hole of effort and progress that calling racism creates.

It is literally fatal to your hopes of social improvement. You can spend the next 500 years calling racism and your people will still be where they started. Or you can spend 50 years finding practical solutions and solving the problem.

Look at the Japanese. Basically little better than feudal tribes. The British arrive with guns and steam ships and started pressuring then with trade terms.

If they called racism at that point. They would still be calling racist today living in huts.

The first thing they fucking said was "we suck, they are far more advanced than us we must learn."

100 years later Japan literally fights a war against a quarter of the world and wipes the floor with them. Gets nuked. And builds one of the world's largest economies off the back of being nuked.

I strongly fucking believe the moment you call racism. It's over for you. It's will lock you into your current state and remove progress from the set of possible outcomes.

Interesting angle.....I heard or read somewhere that sexually open societies have contributed significantly to advancements in literature, science, technology, philosophy, and civilization, while sexually repressive societies (and there's a few of those around the world including religious ones) have often been linked to periods of regression, stagnation, oppression eg such as the dark ages and countries deemed third world.

The only country that bucks the trend seems to be Saudi Arabia. Perhaps they just buy all the above with their oil.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Vinny the adults are talking.

Is that why you have such well thought out and mature responses?

And I’m not Vincent so go pump yourself.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Fatal to the improvement of our race's image.

No one. Has EVER. improved their station in life by yelling racism..

Black people have been yelling racism for 300 years in the US and they are still mostly poor with low quality of life.

Meanwhile Asian like Koreans even including Indians arrived in the US with nothing, and ended up climbing to the top of the earning ladder with very good life quality within a single fucking generation.

That surely is a cautionary tale of the black hole of effort and progress that calling racism creates.

It is literally fatal to your hopes of social improvement. You can spend the next 500 years calling racism and your people will still be where they started. Or you can spend 50 years finding practical solutions and solving the problem.

Look at the Japanese. Basically little better than feudal tribes. The British arrive with guns and steam ships and started pressuring then with trade terms.

If they called racism at that point. They would still be calling racist today living in huts.

The first thing they fucking said was "we suck, they are far more advanced than us we must learn."

100 years later Japan literally fights a war against a quarter of the world and wipes the floor with them. Gets nuked. And builds one of the world's largest economies off the back of being nuked.

I strongly fucking believe the moment you call racism. It's over for you. It's will lock you into your current state and remove progress from the set of possible outcomes.

Right, the Morgan Freeman approach, the best way to stop racism is to stop talking about it. Extremely naive.

African Americans would still be slaves and segregated if racism was never called out. Did Rosa Parks fatally affect social improvement for her people? All social progress has come from calling things out, making a fuss, protesting, disobeying the status quo etc. To say the exact opposite does not hold water when you look at history

.

[Sendmetheacti]

Interesting angle.....I heard or read somewhere that sexually open societies have contributed significantly to advancements in literature, science, technology, philosophy, and civilization, while sexually repressive societies (and there's a few of those around the world including religious ones) have often been linked to periods of regression, stagnation, oppression eg such as the dark ages and countries deemed third world.

The only country that bucks the trend seems to be Saudi Arabia. Perhaps they just buy all the above with their oil.

I daresay when the west did a lot of its innovation, it was sexually repressive to some extent.

I suspect progress is a function of being able to innovate without corruption blocking it.

And also a feeling of self determination. Which is what dies when you call racism. You basically outsource the power to improve your situation to other people, and other people have no reason to care about you.

"we can't fix this problem because racism"

[PussyBonpensiero]

I daresay when the west did a lot of its innovation, it was sexually repressive to some extent.

I suspect progress is a function of being able to innovate without corruption blocking it.

And also a feeling of self determination. Which is what dies when you call racism. You basically outsource the power to improve your situation to other people, and other people have no reason to care about you.

"we can't fix this problem because racism"

Self determination is saying “fuck you I’m sitting where I want on this bus”, not “Oh maybe if I behave and don’t make a fuss they’ll accept me and stop descriminating against me”.

[Sendmetheacti]

Self determination is saying “fuck you I’m sitting where I want on this bus”, not “Oh maybe if I behave and don’t make a fuss they’ll accept me and stop descriminating against me”.

This isn't a Bollywood movie.
In real life your rewarded by working with others and getting along. Not being surrounded by 8 enemies and trying to fight them all at the same time while posing for the camera.

[suka03]

This isn't a Bollywood movie.
In real life your rewarded by working with others and getting along. Not being surrounded by 8 enemies and trying to fight them all at the same time while posing for the camera.

Why are you so arrogant? if the girls doesn’t want Indian, beat it! go elsewhere. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you can get everything. Have you ask the girls why they don’t accept Indians? you can’t respect people’s choice? I been to Thailand and I saw how they pick up the girls, I find it rude, some not clean and cheap ass! that’s the one sign I know and guess what? the girls will paint your whole country even if you are nice and respectful.

Dude, stop playing victim game just move on to another shop.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Why are you so arrogant? if the girls doesn’t want Indian, beat it! go elsewhere. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you can get everything. Have you ask the girls why they don’t accept Indians? you can’t respect people’s choice? I been to Thailand and I saw how they pick up the girls, I find it rude, some not clean and cheap ass! that’s the one sign I know and guess what? the girls will paint your whole country even if you are nice and respectful.

Dude, stop playing victim game just move on to another shop.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there buddy.

[PussyBonpensiero]

This isn't a Bollywood movie.
In real life your rewarded by working with others and getting along. Not being surrounded by 8 enemies and trying to fight them all at the same time while posing for the camera.

This comparison has no relevance to anything I've said so I'll just leave things where they are. You do you, try to fit in and I hope that works for you.

[Zoobender]

This comparison has no relevance to anything I've said so I'll just leave things where they are. You do you, try to fit in and I hope that works for you.

This is actually good advice mate. Well done

As for the Original Indian poster we know this isn't Bollywood. Or there would be a dozen punters bursting into song and dance. For no reason. Bollywood fucking sucks man.

[themort]

I'm not sure I buy the "Indians are genetically predisposed to not showering and mistreating women" angle.

Yeah 80% of them just give the rest a bad name.

[Sendmetheacti]

Why are you so arrogant? if the girls doesn’t want Indian, beat it! go elsewhere. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you can get everything. Have you ask the girls why they don’t accept Indians? you can’t respect people’s choice? I been to Thailand and I saw how they pick up the girls, I find it rude, some not clean and cheap ass! that’s the one sign I know and guess what? the girls will paint your whole country even if you are nice and respectful.

Dude, stop playing victim game just move on to another shop.

No one is playing the victim.
No one is begging anything.

We are all in the business of paying girls money to do things they don't want to do. let's not get high and mighty on each other here.

[Zoobender]

No one is playing the victim.
No one is begging anything.

We are all in the business of paying girls money to do things they don't want to do. let's not get high and mighty on each other here.

Some of us pay them to do what they want to do. Are you saying just because it's a job a doctor down to want to help people. These girls are helping us punters relieve stress and increase our enjoyment...well for those of us who can get bookings

[snot77]

fully sikh, bro

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/nina-aouilk-ending-forced-marriage-and-honor-killings-part-one/

[tezzaman18]

@ PussyBonpensiero

If you are not Vincent888, who are you actually ? Why the need to set up an account on 22/9? Any valid reason for that?

I can't see anything matured about the need to have another account ......






Is that why you have such well thought out and mature responses?

And I’m not Vincent so go pump yourself.

[Lizardrill]

Damn this topic wont end huh haha
Ive seen 2 different posts already of the same issue
Jeeeez..just give it a break lol

[PussyBonpensiero]

@ PussyBonpensiero

If you are not Vincent888, who are you actually ? Why the need to set up an account on 22/9? Any valid reason for that?

I can't see anything matured about the need to have another account ......

Lol, who am I actually? who are you actually? Post your drivers licence and then I'll post mine.

I started a new account because ReginaldBubbles got banned for causing trouble.

I'm a bit offended that you think I'm vincent etc actually, my grammar is much better than his.

[Abracadabra]

Lol, who am I actually? who are you actually? Post your drivers licence and then I'll post mine.

I started a new account because ReginaldBubbles got banned for causing trouble.

I'm a bit offended that you think I'm vincent etc actually, my grammar is much better than his.

Really? Or a bit of subterfuge?
Cleared it with Tony?

[PussyBonpensiero]

Really? Or a bit of subterfuge?
Cleared it with Tony?

No subterfuge to clear with Tony. Plus he killed me for being a rat so there's that.

[Zoobender]

No subterfuge to clear with Tony. Plus he killed me for being a rat so there's that.

Tu es un perdant, Vinnie. Va te faire foutre

[PussyBonpensiero]

Tu es un perdant, Vinnie. Va te faire foutre

So sure, yet so wrong. Go bend a zoo.

[jedibear]

I thought this thread was about an Indian guy wanting to get a root at Ginza. Damn what a flaming trash heap this has become. OP, to give u a hint, I have an Indian friend who punts with me too. I'm non-Indian and vouch for him when I make bookings. Of course, I know him well and I know he treats the girls well and he's a decent guy, otherwise my reputation is down the loo too.

But sorry dude, the market is the way it is for a reason...

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[Zoobender]

So sure, yet so wrong. Go bend a zoo.

I bet you are sitting at home alone jerking off to gay porn, or maybe you are trying to recover the password for your 20 junk accounts.

Go bend a zoo? I already did mate. That's how I met your mum.

[Endo123]

Had a feeling based off the futileness of the topic and the long length of this thread that this has derailed and devolved long ago.

But to stay on topic, plenty of shops in Sydney to choose from of comparable quality. Just move on.

[PussyBonpensiero]

I bet you are sitting at home alone jerking off to gay porn, or maybe you are trying to recover the password for your 20 junk accounts.

Go bend a zoo? I already did mate. That's how I met your mum.

Thank you for making me lol.

[tezzaman18]

@ Reggie

It's a fair question to ask as I was not the only person to ask. This punter (Revenant) who had to assume a new account (like you) thought you were Reggie. You could have just PM me and risk the chance of getting this account being banned.

Spanky69 was a 'real pain in the a**' with the thread he started . In fact I even PM you to say THANKS for being a critic . Don't think you even bothered to acknowledge.

FYI - I still use the same account from Day 1 I joined this forum. I have no intentions of putting myself in the position to be banned.



Lol, who am I actually? who are you actually? Post your drivers licence and then I'll post mine.

I started a new account because ReginaldBubbles got banned for causing trouble.

I'm a bit offended that you think I'm vincent etc actually, my grammar is much better than his.

[snot77]

fully sikh, bro

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/nina-aouilk-ending-forced-marriage-and-honor-killings-part-one/

or this ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIndianWomen/comments/1fy0gor/being_an_ugly_women_in_india_is_hell/

[Sendmetheacti]

Had a feeling based off the futileness of the topic and the long length of this thread that this has derailed and devolved long ago.

But to stay on topic, plenty of shops in Sydney to choose from of comparable quality. Just move on.

I think Ginza is recognised by many in Sydney as the best shop for quality/consistency/price.

So it's a shame one of the largest migrant groups is almost blacklisted.

Now one option is just to shrug and move on for sure, and I think most do this.

But I reckon there's money being left on the table so to speak here, and that these issues can be solved in more targeted ways.

[Sendmetheacti]

or this ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIndianWomen/comments/1fy0gor/being_an_ugly_women_in_india_is_hell/

I don't know why Indians still complain about having dark skin when theres a literal chemical that induces full vitiligo and makes you Irish white forever lol.

[thefatness]

The girls are the ones that choose whether or not they want to service indian customers not the shop. I have no sympathy for them though, seen how they treat women on the streets in Thailand and that was before any payment can only imagine what they’re like after payment.

[PussyBonpensiero]

I don't know why Indians still complain about having dark skin when theres a literal chemical that induces full vitiligo and makes you Irish white forever lol.

Is she complaining about having dark skin or the treatment she receives because of it? Why should she have to chemically whiten her skin to prevent that treatment?

[mn69]

The girls are the ones that choose whether or not they want to service indian customers not the shop. I have no sympathy for them though, seen how they treat women on the streets in Thailand and that was before any payment can only imagine what they’re like after payment.

Me too. They surround the girl on Beach Road, Pattaya. Then if she does agree to go back to hotel with one of them, theres another 10 Indian guys waiting at studio hotel room that they're all sharing. And they all want to all take part as well for that 1 short time fee for the girl.

Cheapness of the highest order !!

[11Bravo]

But I reckon there's money being left on the table so to speak here, and that these issues can be solved in more targeted ways.
FMTT, this boy never stops. If SHE wants to take a pass on YOUR money, that's HER business, NOT yours. You're trying to solve YOUR problem at her expense.

And some wonder why Indians are in disfavor. Methinks it's because they just DON'T and WON'T accept a NO.


Me too. They surround the girl on Beach Road, Pattaya. Then if she does agree to go back to hotel with one of them, theres another 10 Indian guys waiting at studio hotel room that they're all sharing. And they all want to all take part as well for that 1 short time fee for the girl.

It's the 3 Musketeers syndrome: all for one and one for all (at ONE price). And it doesn't just happen in Thailand.

[jedibear]

I think Ginza is recognised by many in Sydney as the best shop for quality/consistency/price.

So it's a shame one of the largest migrant groups is almost blacklisted.

Now one option is just to shrug and move on for sure, and I think most do this.

But I reckon there's money being left on the table so to speak here, and that these issues can be solved in more targeted ways.Mate, just get over it. Do you wanna fuck a girl u absolutely dont want to fuck? These working girls have a right too u know.

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[jedibear]

FMTT, this boy never stops. If SHE wants to take a pass on YOUR money, that's HER business, NOT yours. You're trying to solve YOUR problem at her expense.

And some wonder why Indians are in disfavor. Methinks it's because they just DON'T and WON'T accept a NO.



It's the 3 Musketeers syndrome: all for one and one for all (at ONE price). And it doesn't just happen in Thailand.Yes what 11Bravo said

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[jedibear]

If you want to fuck freely, can do that in Mumbai mate

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[Zoobender]

Me too. They surround the girl on Beach Road, Pattaya. Then if she does agree to go back to hotel with one of them, theres another 10 Indian guys waiting at studio hotel room that they're all sharing. And they all want to all take part as well for that 1 short time fee for the girl.

Cheapness of the highest order !!

How do you know this? I can only think you are indian and you went to the room also lol.

Jokes aside I don't think the Indians are as bad as everyone makes out. Lebs would just rape the chick on the beach and Japanese and Koreans would get them drunk or drug them then all take their turns and would dump the girl somewhere no payment.

I think there are dickheads in every race. Probably same percentage. Just more Indians around lol

[11Bravo]

How do you know this? I can only think you are indian and you went to the room also lol.

Jokes aside I don't think the Indians are as bad as everyone makes out. Lebs would just rape the chick on the beach and Japanese and Koreans would get them drunk or drug them then all take their turns and would dump the girl somewhere no payment.

I think there are dickheads in every race. Probably same percentage. Just more Indians around lol

Have heard it from the girls, have pulled escort duty to walk girls through literally a gauntlet of Indians looking to molest, and have played white knight in bars when Indians wanted to do the same with the FL's there. There are reasons why bars throw up barriers for Indians. Not racist, financial. I'd say it's the misogynistic culture, combined with the caste culture, combined with the separation of the sexes in schools. The FL's I knew would have no qualms about going with Japanese (the 555 well known), nor with Koreans. Indians? Pass, too much risk.

And that's a fact, Jack.

[Abracadabra]

Beyond all the arguments / counter arguments surrounding the unfairness of a one size fits all approach plus debating questions of perception v reality, the bottom line is the ultimate arbiters of the Indian question is the service providers and quite a large number of the girls have spoken quite clearly.

They have their reasons and their rights ..... which are to be respected.

[mn69]

I think Ginza is recognised by many in Sydney as the best shop for quality/consistency/price.

So it's a shame one of the largest migrant groups is almost blacklisted.

Now one option is just to shrug and move on for sure, and I think most do this.

But I reckon there's money being left on the table so to speak here, and that these issues can be solved in more targeted ways.

Also blacklisted in Thailand and alot of other countries too. Try getting into any GoGo bars, especially the top ones as an Indian lol


Mate, just get over it. Do you wanna fuck a girl u absolutely dont want to fuck? These working girls have a right too u know.

This is the exact reason they get banned and blacklisted. Very pushy and cannot take "no" for an answer

[mn69]

How do you know this? I can only think you are indian and you went to the room also lol.

Jokes aside I don't think the Indians are as bad as everyone makes out. Lebs would just rape the chick on the beach and Japanese and Koreans would get them drunk or drug them then all take their turns and would dump the girl somewhere no payment.

I think there are dickheads in every race. Probably same percentage. Just more Indians around lol

Every Thai girl will tell you the same atory. They can't all be just making it up

Japanese and Koreans dont need to do that. They have more money than most other tourists there. And the girls will usually give it to them for free. They are the preferred guys of Thai girls now


Have heard it from the girls, have pulled escort duty to walk girls through literally a gauntlet of Indians looking to molest, and have played white knight in bars when Indians wanted to do the same with the FL's there. There are reasons why bars throw up barriers for Indians. Not racist, financial. I'd say it's the misogynistic culture, combined with the caste culture, combined with the separation of the sexes in schools. The FL's I knew would have no qualms about going with Japanese (the 555 well known), nor with Koreans. Indians? Pass, too much risk.

And that's a fact, Jack.

Seen it happen alot in the bars of Soi 6, 7, 8. Walking street & Buakhao. Indian men just groping and grabbing Thai girls. And the girl is visibly trying to get away. Nice of you to keep these sex pests away from these Thai girls lol

Alot of people like to joke about "555" but believe it or not, Japanese & Korean are the preferred guys of Thai girls now. Actually all over Asia. The age of being special just coz you're a "white guy" in Asia is over. Imagine how difficult it must be for an Indian bloke LOL

Especially with the rise of K-Pop. The youngest, hottest Thai girls will refuse to go with old bald fat Farangs now. They will usually only go with handsome young guys, especially a Japanese/Korean guy. For free as well as she likes to show her friends she snagged a young handsome guy who looks like BTS or a K-Pop star.

Its all about "showing face" and "saving face" in Thai culture

[Jamez11]

Holy fuk… how many times can people repeat the same thing over and over and over again.

Get a hobby lads, it’s just getting embarrassing borderline pathetic now.

[Double_Adapter]

I think Ginza is recognised by many in Sydney as the best shop for quality/consistency/price.

So it's a shame one of the largest migrant groups is almost blacklisted.

Now one option is just to shrug and move on for sure, and I think most do this.

But I reckon there's money being left on the table so to speak here, and that these issues can be solved in more targeted ways.

Indians are not the largest migrant group in Oz, but as of recently they are the largest growing migrant group overtaking the Kiwis and the Chinese. A change in government could possibly change the current trend.

Other than shrugging it off and moving on, there are other options like assimilating, and adapting to the norms of the country that has gladly and openly taken you in and given you opportunities, education, health, financial handouts, housing, language support etc.....and this also applies to all the other migrant groups that have sought refuge here; in short BE GRATEFUL that you have been afforded a better life and contribute by giving back and abiding by our laws and way of life.

When you talk about money being left on the table, are we talking about a lot of money, or just haggled down loose change?

[mn69]

When you talk about money being left on the table, are we talking about a lot of money, or just haggled down loose change?

Most likey just haggled down lose change. Indian's aren't known to be very generous with money anyway. More like tight asses

So Indian's being blacklisted is of no financial consequence to any shop. Its actually an advantage as its better and safer for the girls. At end of the day, the shops still have to protect their workers and employees.

So I am in full support of any shops or girls that blacklist or ban them. They have my utmost respect

[Lizardrill]

This thread and other like (and other future threads with same topic) just shows how some people would just rather have a blanket rule of not dealing with our bros from the south..

Just move on..its pathetic at this point to just try to haggle their way into a punt

People who dont understand and accept this just proves the stereotype

Smh

[11Bravo]

Every Thai girl will tell you the same atory. They can't all be just making it upSeen it happen alot in the bars of Soi 6, 7, 8. Walking street & Buakhao. Indian men just groping and grabbing Thai girls. And the girl is visibly trying to get away. Nice of you to keep these sex pests away from these Thai girls lol
Thanks, but it wasn't in Thailand.

[mn69]

Thanks, but it wasn't in Thailand.
LOL sounded like Thailand. that means our Indian brothers misbehave in other countries too

[11Bravo]

LOL sounded like Thailand. that means our Indian brothers misbehave in other countries too

Like the Thais say, "same same but different" (country).

[tezzaman18]

@ Sendmetheacti and the other aggrieved Indian punters. Here's a feel good thing !

I can tell you that the Swiss people welcome the Indian tourists in their country!!!

If you ever go to places like Lucerne , Grindelwald, Interlaken, etc you'll see many of your countrymen . They are tourists and not on a working visa! The MacDonalds in Interlaken is probably an Indian franchise holder. Lol

There is an Indian restaurant up in the Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe , in the Bernese Alps. It's called Restaurant Bollywood . No bullshit! A cup of tea (in a tea bag) will set you back CHF $10!!!

Just take care of yourself. Give it time. Perceptions may change. I wouldn't let what's happening @ GE or GC get the better of you. As i see it , the popular Wls (Rebecca, Misha etc) have no issues. And I wouldn't even lay the blame on Management. I also think the guys at the reception do a pretty good job .




This isn't a Bollywood movie.
In real life your rewarded by working with others and getting along. Not being surrounded by 8 enemies and trying to fight them all at the same time while posing for the camera.

[mn69]

Just take care of yourself. Give it time. Perceptions may change. I wouldn't let what's happening @ GE or GC get the better of you. As i see it , the popular Wls (Rebecca, Misha etc) have no issues. And I wouldn't even lay the blame on Management. I also think the guys at the reception do a pretty good job .

Basically they brought this on themselves. Like I said many times, they need to stop acting like fools and start to respect women.

The popular girls dont need to put "No Indians". From what I been told by a few girls, since popular girls are generally more expensive, ~$200+ for 30mins and ~$300+ for 1 hour. They usually dont get Indian customers anyway as they are too expensive for Indians.

[PussyBonpensiero]

This thread and other like (and other future threads with same topic) just shows how some people would just rather have a blanket rule of not dealing with our bros from the south..

Just move on..its pathetic at this point to just try to haggle their way into a punt

People who dont understand and accept this just proves the stereotype

Smh

I agree, Tasmanians should just stay in Tasmania. Bunch of inbred rednecks.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Basically they brought this on themselves. Like I said many times, they need to stop acting like fools and start to respect women.

The popular girls dont need to put "No Indians". From what I been told by a few girls, since popular girls are generally more expensive, ~$200+ for 30mins and ~$300+ for 1 hour. They usually dont get Indian customers anyway as they are too expensive for Indians.

It’s true, you have said it many times.

[tommyb]

I was in a shop the other day and the Indian guy in the waiting room next to me was so annoying I applaud the mamsan for her patience. He was told many times each girl provides their own service and price at their discretion (it was a massage shop and he wanted FS). He wanted to know the extras of each girl and their prices even tho she told him many times each to their own it just kept going around in circles. Then he didn't want to pay for 30 mins he was trying to haggle down to 15-20 mins FS.... I'm sure whichever poor girl ended up with him will be no indian if she could!

[jedibear]

I was in a shop the other day and the Indian guy in the waiting room next to me was so annoying I applaud the mamsan for her patience. He was told many times each girl provides their own service and price at their discretion (it was a massage shop and he wanted FS). He wanted to know the extras of each girl and their prices even tho she told him many times each to their own it just kept going around in circles. Then he didn't want to pay for 30 mins he was trying to haggle down to 15-20 mins FS.... I'm sure whichever poor girl ended up with him will be no indian if she could!

This is what I mean. I mean, sure there are always good and bad, but generally speaking a higher percentage of them want to pay pennies but expect to have BBFSCIP + other free extra service. And to finish a punt in 15-20 minutes, you would have to be fucking that girl really rough to finish, which is another gripe that WLs have based on what they have told me. If you read about the stories of brothels on the subcontinent, they are some of the most miserable places in the world and that probably stems from the culture that prostitutes are lowest of low in terms of the caste system. Hence these guys feel entitled to treat them like crap...and the culture is taken with them when they go overseas

In summary, OP just get over it. The market has spoken.

[11Bravo]

This is what I mean. I mean, sure there are always good and bad, but generally speaking a higher percentage of them want to pay pennies but expect to have BBFSCIP + other free extra service. And to finish a punt in 15-20 minutes, you would have to be fucking that girl really rough to finish, which is another gripe that WLs have based on what they have told me. If you read about the stories of brothels on the subcontinent, they are some of the most miserable places in the world and that probably stems from the culture that prostitutes are lowest of low in terms of the caste system. Hence these guys feel entitled to treat them like crap...and the culture is taken with them when they go overseas

In summary, OP just get over it. The market has spoken.

Hey, I give you two thumbs up, but you know, some on the jury just won't believe all the evidence. It's the SODDI defense - some other dude did it.

[jedibear]

Hey, I give you two thumbs up, but you know, some on the jury just won't believe all the evidence. It's the SODDI defense - some other dude did it.Thanks mate! Yeah, it's frustrating isn't it. We gotta remember, these girls are doing this job for the pay. For them to purposely exclude a subset of customers there is a reason.

To flip it around, some Korean girls also exclude Korean punters as well. It's not discrimination, it's just choice and discretion.

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[Johny77]

I was in a shop the other day and the Indian guy in the waiting room next to me was so annoying I applaud the mamsan for her patience. He was told many times each girl provides their own service and price at their discretion (it was a massage shop and he wanted FS). He wanted to know the extras of each girl and their prices even tho she told him many times each to their own it just kept going around in circles. Then he didn't want to pay for 30 mins he was trying to haggle down to 15-20 mins FS.... I'm sure whichever poor girl ended up with him will be no indian if she could!

Similar occurrence. I was in the area and decided to pop into 108 Mirage to check out their line up and give a Nuru massage a go. I was sitting on the couch when I overhear an Indian punter taking to the Masaman. I don’t know whether he had just walked in or whether he had already seen one of the girls. Anyway, he demanded the Masaman call one of the girls so that he could view her. Masaman advised that the girl had just escorted a punter upstairs to fulfil a booking. This was true as I had seen her escort the punter upstairs as I was walking in. The girl was Korean, don’t recall her name but do remember having read a few good reviews about her (he probably read the same). Anyway, he kept persisting saying “I just want to have a look”. After some back and forthing, the Masaman caved and called the girl and asked her to come down. I couldn’t see what was happening but did hear him greet the WL. He then left. Suffice to say, overhearing all of this, killed my mood and I decided to walk away a couple of minutes later.

[tezzaman18]

The Op seems like a decent bloke. Being born and schooled here, he has culturally adapted to being an Aussie in many ways . At least he is aware that the problem are the punters who are immigrants. His father's generation? It's too difficult to change that. It's not just in the sex industry but across just about every facet of working life.

Well over a decade ago I spent 3-4 years in S.E Asia working. Had a line reporting to a Senior Mgr , in a Big 6 International firm . He was Indian who graduated from UK, too . I had my encounters. I had colleagues who wished a bus or truck would run him over while he was crossing the street.

[17012430]

Can’t believe this thread still has legs. Nana at Mirage has an almost identical thing going on at her shop… why don’t Indians just go there for their jap fix? If Ginza girls don’t want to fuck you then get over it.

CBD Style also an option.

[11Bravo]

Similar occurrence. I was in the area and decided to pop into 108 Mirage to check out their line up and give a Nuru massage a go. I was sitting on the couch when I overhear an Indian punter taking to the Masaman. I don’t know whether he had just walked in or whether he had already seen one of the girls. Anyway, he demanded the Masaman call one of the girls so that he could view her. Masaman advised that the girl had just escorted a punter upstairs to fulfil a booking. This was true as I had seen her escort the punter upstairs as I was walking in. The girl was Korean, don’t recall her name but do remember having read a few good reviews about her (he probably read the same). Anyway, he kept persisting saying “I just want to have a look”. After some back and forthing, the Masaman caved and called the girl and asked her to come down. I couldn’t see what was happening but did hear him greet the WL. He then left. Suffice to say, overhearing all of this, killed my mood and I decided to walk away a couple of minutes later.

Bad business from the mamasan - satisfying ONE customer, alienating TWO (I can't imagine the punter upstairs was all too pleased...), and I'd guess the girl was none too happy either.

[Jamez11]

Can’t believe this thread still has legs. Nana at Mirage has an almost identical thing going on at her shop… why don’t Indians just go there for their jap fix? If Ginza girls don’t want to fuck you then get over it.

CBD Style also an option.

That’s what’s so pathetic about this thread, its not even Indians complaining, it’s senile
blokes just repeating the same thing over and over again and an “Indian business mogul” who has a business proposition for Ginza 😂.

[Double_Adapter]

Can’t believe this thread still has legs.

Was thinking the same thing, but in my case some legs have brown sandals

[dotcumdotinyou]

The only reason its still going is the Indian business mogul can't understand that when a girl says NO she means NO.

[rooter]

There is no debate or disagreement here. It is pretty close to unanimous.
99% of us agree the girls have the right to decide who they have sex with.
And if that decision is no Indians, then 99% of us totally support that decision.

[tezzaman18]

Due to the nature of the service , it should really be the prerogative of the service provider and not the customer . And it's good that GC and GE allow that.

[suka03]

it’s not a victim game. You trying to force what has been signaling by the girls. Is not that hard isn’t it? if someone doesn’t want to see from typical country, don’t force it. You won’t get good service or reject you once you see it. Again, money is not everything. It’s not being racist too, even a Korean girl don’t want to see you Korean people in shop. Everyone has their own preferences.

[Wombat1]

Seriously mate, you still are going on about it.

If a girl says no, then it’s no.

No wonder 99% of Ginza girls say no Indians, you are just so painful to deal with in regular life… I could only imagine how horrible it would be for the girl naked next to you…

My recommendation take your cash to India and splurge

[Double_Adapter]

There's only 6 possible solutions to solve this problem.

1. Shops force their WLs to service Indians:
It's against the law to do shit like that and could fall into the sexual servitude, slavery and sex consent realm. A shop can end up being prosecuted and closed down with owners doing jail time.

https://www.austrac.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-02/AUSTRAC_FCG_DetectingAndStoppingForcedSexualServit ude_web.pdf

2. Shop encourages, persuades or coerces WLs to see Indian customers:
Possibly could happen, but WLs may eventually get jack'd of being treated like shit and told to do stuff against their will. Once a chick gets 'the ick' it's over red rover and it won't be long before she quits encouraging other WLs to follow. All round bad news for the shop, word will spread, other WLs will refuse to work there, reputation and quality will drop and so will customers and shop profits.

3. Shop incentivises WLs to service Indian customers
In the long run this solution isn't economically viable for a shop. Other WLs will jump on the incentives and bonuses bandwagon demanding to be equally rewarded and this ain't sustainable. Moreover, Indians aren't the most generous or frivolous when it comes to money so this solution definitely ain't gonna work for a shop.

4. Shop let's the WL decide which nationalities she is willing or not-willing to service.
This is the most logical and pragmatic solution to the problem. WL is in control of her body and in terms of consent. She has made a conscious decision to forgo a fistful of dollars for the psychological and, potentially physical trauma she might otherwise experience.
For the punter who has been cock blocked, he's gotta accept and face the harsh realities of life and get over the FOMO. Another words stop asking why little fat Johnny is allowed to have vanilla ice cream and he can't.

5. Punt in a shop where WLs service Indians
This is a pragmatic and obvious solution for the 'No Indian' problem and a win-win for everyone. But I suspect that deep down the punter will still get that niggling FOMO feeling and ask himself; why can't he also have the vanilla ice cream?

6. Establish a shop that only caters for sub continent customers
Possible solution, but finding, attracting and retaining the right talent will be fucken difficult for the shop. Moreover catering for certain demographics limits your market, your options and your profits. So this solution is easier said than done.

And so where does this lead us? Back to square one, exactly where we fucken started.

[Jamez11]

There's only 6 possible solutions to solve this problem.

1. Shops force their WLs to service Indians:
It's against the law to do shit like that and could fall into the sexual servitude, slavery and sex consent realm. A shop can end up being prosecuted and closed down with owners doing jail time.

https://www.austrac.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-02/AUSTRAC_FCG_DetectingAndStoppingForcedSexualServit ude_web.pdf

2. Shop encourages, persuades or coerces WLs to see Indian customers:
Possibly could happen, but WLs may eventually get jack'd of being treated like shit and told to do stuff against their will. Once a chick gets 'the ick' it's over red rover and it won't be long before she quits encouraging other WLs to follow. All round bad news for the shop, word will spread, other WLs will refuse to work there, reputation and quality will drop and so will customers and shop profits.

3. Shop incentivises WLs to service Indian customers
In the long run this solution isn't economically viable for a shop. Other WLs will jump on the incentives and bonuses bandwagon demanding to be equally rewarded and this ain't sustainable. Moreover, Indians aren't the most generous or frivolous when it comes to money so this solution definitely ain't gonna work for a shop.

4. Shop let's the WL decide which nationalities she is willing or not-willing to service.
This is the most logical and pragmatic solution to the problem. WL is in control of her body and in terms of consent. She has made a conscious decision to forgo a fistful of dollars for the psychological and, potentially physical trauma she might otherwise experience.
For the punter who has been cock blocked, he's gotta accept and face the harsh realities of life and get over the FOMO. Another words stop asking why little fat Johnny is allowed to have vanilla ice cream and he can't.

5. Punt in a shop where WLs service Indians
This is a pragmatic and obvious solution for the 'No Indian' problem and a win-win for everyone. But I suspect that deep down the punter will still get that niggling FOMO feeling and ask himself; why can't he also have the vanilla ice cream?

6. Establish a shop that only caters for sub continent customers
Possible solution, but finding, attracting and retaining the right talent will be fucken difficult for the shop. Moreover catering for certain demographics limits your market, your options and your profits. So this solution is easier said than done.

And so where does this lead us? Back to square one, exactly where we fucken started.


Holy shit double_adoptar, GET OVER IT!!! It’s not that deep or complicated, you and half the blokes on here have said a variation of this a 1000 times. This thread is like if gold fish could talk, swimming around in circles, repeating the same thing, over and over again.

You obviously want to keep this going just for the attention/short term dopamine hits but it’s a beautiful day outside mate, go touch some grass.

[jedibear]

Seriously mate, you still are going on about it.

If a girl says no, then it’s no.

No wonder 99% of Ginza girls say no Indians, you are just so painful to deal with in regular life… I could only imagine how horrible it would be for the girl naked next to you…

My recommendation take your cash to India and splurgeDouble like mate!

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[Abracadabra]

Seriously mate, you still are going on about it.

If a girl says no, then it’s no.

No wonder 99% of Ginza girls say no Indians, you are just so painful to deal with in regular life… I could only imagine how horrible it would be for the girl naked next to you…

My recommendation take your cash to India and splurge

Ahmen ...... the arbiters have spoken!

It is what it is..

Come back in a few generations ~ might be different, might be the same!

[Double_Adapter]

Holy shit double_adoptar, GET OVER IT!!! It’s not that deep or complicated, you and half the blokes on here have said a variation of this a 1000 times. This thread is like if gold fish could talk, swimming around in circles, repeating the same thing, over and over again.

You obviously want to keep this going just for the attention/short term dopamine hits but it’s a beautiful day outside mate, go touch some grass.

Take a chill pill Reggie boy, just trying to help a brown brother in need

[Lizardrill]

And again this thread is active again lol

Imma just gonna park here and eat my Tikka Masala flavoured pop corn and see this unfold

[tezzaman18]

@ Double_Adaptor

Thanks for your trouble. Was succinctly put forth. You could have been spared Jamez11's tirade if done much earlier on. Lol

I also think the Op wasn't about complaining. Such an issue best handled directly with the shop.

Btw - are u sure that Jamez11 is Reggie? I inferred that Reggie's acct was banned recently and he has assumed Pussybonspeiro.


There's only 6 possible solutions to solve this problem.

1. Shops force their WLs to service Indians:
It's against the law to do shit like that and could fall into the sexual servitude, slavery and sex consent realm. A shop can end up being prosecuted and closed down with owners doing jail time.

https://www.austrac.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-02/AUSTRAC_FCG_DetectingAndStoppingForcedSexualServit ude_web.pdf

2. Shop encourages, persuades or coerces WLs to see Indian customers:
Possibly could happen, but WLs may eventually get jack'd of being treated like shit and told to do stuff against their will. Once a chick gets 'the ick' it's over red rover and it won't be long before she quits encouraging other WLs to follow. All round bad news for the shop, word will spread, other WLs will refuse to work there, reputation and quality will drop and so will customers and shop profits.

3. Shop incentivises WLs to service Indian customers
In the long run this solution isn't economically viable for a shop. Other WLs will jump on the incentives and bonuses bandwagon demanding to be equally rewarded and this ain't sustainable. Moreover, Indians aren't the most generous or frivolous when it comes to money so this solution definitely ain't gonna work for a shop.

4. Shop let's the WL decide which nationalities she is willing or not-willing to service.
This is the most logical and pragmatic solution to the problem. WL is in control of her body and in terms of consent. She has made a conscious decision to forgo a fistful of dollars for the psychological and, potentially physical trauma she might otherwise experience.
For the punter who has been cock blocked, he's gotta accept and face the harsh realities of life and get over the FOMO. Another words stop asking why little fat Johnny is allowed to have vanilla ice cream and he can't.

5. Punt in a shop where WLs service Indians
This is a pragmatic and obvious solution for the 'No Indian' problem and a win-win for everyone. But I suspect that deep down the punter will still get that niggling FOMO feeling and ask himself; why can't he also have the vanilla ice cream?

6. Establish a shop that only caters for sub continent customers
Possible solution, but finding, attracting and retaining the right talent will be fucken difficult for the shop. Moreover catering for certain demographics limits your market, your options and your profits. So this solution is easier said than done.

And so where does this lead us? Back to square one, exactly where we fucken started.

[Jack-Jack]

Double like mate!

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That’s a triple like from me and double thumbs up haha

[Jack-Jack]

Seriously mate, you still are going on about it.

If a girl says no, then it’s no.

No wonder 99% of Ginza girls say no Indians, you are just so painful to deal with in regular life… I could only imagine how horrible it would be for the girl naked next to you…

My recommendation take your cash to India and splurge

Bahahahahaha

I don’t get why the Indians don’t just go to shops that accept Indians with most of their girls

Ie Kyoto Sakura
Fireflies even?

Ginza I feel strive to protect their girls not just with tags like NO INDIAN ASIAN ONLY NO JAP NO KOREAN The list goes on ….. but also things like gentle customers only and no experience pls be gentle

It’s your money so if you don’t like it go to another shop that’ll accept Indians lol

You can create as many threads as you want it won’t change the WL perceptions of Indians lol and they have a choice end of the day who they see

[Assandlegs]

You can create as many threads as you want it won’t change the WL perceptions of Indians lol and they have a choice end of the day who they see

And theirs are the ONLY ones that really matter here...

Please let this thread just die, or better still, lock it down so we don't keep repeating the same bullshit opinions over and over and over...

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[Kiryu0]

And theirs are the ONLY ones that really matter here...

Please let this thread just die, or better still, lock it down so we don't keep repeating the same bullshit opinions over and over and over...

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I agree with this. Can admin please just lock this thread up? There's nothing more to discuss, and the sentiment is obvious. Should just move on.

[PussyBonpensiero]

Take a chill pill Reggie boy, just trying to help a brown brother in need

Lol ok Vincent!!!

[Zoobender]

Lol ok Vincent!!!

The vincent cat calling the Vincent kettle, Vincent

[mn69]

Bahahahahaha

I don’t get why the Indians don’t just go to shops that accept Indians with most of their girls

Ie Kyoto Sakura
Fireflies even?

Ginza I feel strive to protect their girls not just with tags like NO INDIAN ASIAN ONLY NO JAP NO KOREAN The list goes on ….. but also things like gentle customers only and no experience pls be gentle

It’s your money so if you don’t like it go to another shop that’ll accept Indians lol

You can create as many threads as you want it won’t change the WL perceptions of Indians lol and they have a choice end of the day who they see

This is the exact reason Indians get blacklisted or banned. They cannot take "No" for an answer. Its the girls right who she wants to get intimate with.

I think if our Indian brothers aren't happy with it, should refer them off to speak with the Australian Women's Rights Group. The Indian guys can take it up with them LOL

[jedibear]

This is the exact reason Indians get blacklisted or banned. They cannot take "No" for an answer. Its the girls right who she wants to get intimate with.

I think if our Indian brothers aren't happy with it, should refer them off to speak with the Australian Women's Rights Group. The Indian guys can take it up with them LOL

Mate, couldn't have said it better! The smartest comment I've seen all day on this thread...

[GoldfishMan]

Bahahahahaha

I don’t get why the Indians don’t just go to shops that accept Indians with most of their girls

Ie Kyoto Sakura
Fireflies even?

Ginza I feel strive to protect their girls not just with tags like NO INDIAN ASIAN ONLY NO JAP NO KOREAN The list goes on ….. but also things like gentle customers only and no experience pls be gentle

It’s your money so if you don’t like it go to another shop that’ll accept Indians lol

You can create as many threads as you want it won’t change the WL perceptions of Indians lol and they have a choice end of the day who they see

I think you'll find that all those shops that do not explicitly say "No Indians" will yield the same or worse results for them. They'll probably be turned away when they get to the shop. Don't forget that it's not the shop that decides which races are allowed to see a girl, it's always the girls' wishes.

The difference here is, because Ginza is a very well run shop, they take the trouble to say it upfront so people do not waste their time and effort. It reduces the amount of aggression they have to deal with. Take a look at Sakura/Kyoto for example. They never have any conditions on the girls. They just don't do that stuff.

[Zoobender]

I think you'll find that all those shops that do not explicitly say "No Indians" will yield the same or worse results for them. They'll probably be turned away when they get to the shop. Don't forget that it's not the shop that decides which races are allowed to see a girl, it's always the girls' wishes.

The difference here is, because Ginza is a very well run shop, they take the trouble to say it upfront so people do not waste their time and effort. It reduces the amount of aggression they have to deal with. Take a look at Sakura/Kyoto for example. They never have any conditions on the girls. They just don't do that stuff.

Yeh agree Ginza is good like this. They try to be upfront and not waste anyone's time.

[suka03]

For that I know most Indians i know have attitude problem and cheapskate. Taken lesson learnt from the girl. I saw it months ago when I went o Pattaya on beach rd. They haggles with bunch of guys for 1 girl, I can see the look on the girls face not even happy.

[11Bravo]

For that I know most Indians i know have attitude problem and cheapskate. Taken lesson learnt from the girl. I saw it months ago when I went o Pattaya on beach rd. They haggles with bunch of guys for 1 girl, I can see the look on the girls face not even happy.

Ah yes, well known in several countries, not just Thailand, the Indian dog pack. I've always wondered why. Don't they realize it's off-putting and intimidating (maybe that's the point) for the single girl. Certainly the girl feels it as a threat - if she says yes, does that mean for the speaker, or for everybody (Musketeers syndrome).

[mn69]

For that I know most Indians i know have attitude problem and cheapskate. Taken lesson learnt from the girl. I saw it months ago when I went o Pattaya on beach rd. They haggles with bunch of guys for 1 girl, I can see the look on the girls face not even happy.

Bad attitudes. And they also haggle the price too much. Seen one trying to haggle her down by 50 baht. I'm thinking thats like $2. Just pay it 555


Ah yes, well known in several countries, not just Thailand, the Indian dog pack. I've always wondered why. Don't they realize it's off-putting and intimidating (maybe that's the point) for the single girl. Certainly the girl feels it as a threat - if she says yes, does that mean for the speaker, or for everybody (Musketeers syndrome).

Of course its intimidating for the girl. They're not exactly handsome guys either. So imagine being surrounded by a pack of disrespectful ugly smelly Indian men. Most Thai girls refuse them.

The only Thai girls that agree to go with Indians are the older, fatter ones. Poor girl has no other choice and needs the money

[Revenant]

The only Thai girls that agree to go with Indians are the older, fatter ones. Poor girl has no other choice and needs the money

Fatter ones must be raking it in, otherwise they’d be skinny, correct?

[11Bravo]

Fatter ones must be raking it in, otherwise they’d be skinny, correct?

Well known, it's NOT fat, it's prosperity...

[mn69]

unfortunately fat and prosperity ≠ attractive and hot

[Revenant]

There are two types of women you want to hang with, hot and sexy and to be seen with them is like driving an exotic car, you take it out, everyone looks and that’s part of their appeal or chunky and solid like a 4WD and know that you’re still going to get where you want to be but it’s in the bush only(pun intended) away from prying eyes.

Horses for courses.

[11Bravo]

There are two types of women you want to hang with, hot and sexy and to be seen with them is like driving an exotic car, you take it out, everyone looks and that’s part of their appeal or chunky and solid like a 4WD and know that you’re still going to get where you want to be but it’s in the bush only(pun intended) away from prying eyes.

Horses for courses.

That's only for those whose self-esteem is so low they need others' approbation. MY experience? Hot/sexy doesn't have to be sans good heart or service. I owned an exotic car - because it was fun to drive and I liked its looks; didn't care what anyone else thought. Same with women... whether I'm out at a bar with her, enjoying the house band; or at home with her in the kitchen cooking up AUTHENTIC Thai/Chinese/Kirgie/etc. food, it's HER company I'm enjoying; couldn't care less what others think.

[Revenant]

Is there anything wrong with riding a racehorse? Some prefer that over riding a donkey. I don’t know about most here but I’m older and I like being with a pretty young filly, if I wanted an old nag I’d get married or date one. There’s a saying, you’re only as old as the woman you feel and remember life is about choices. We choose who we are with not the other way around.

[11Bravo]

There are two types of women you want to hang with, hot and sexy and to be seen with them is like driving an exotic car, you take it out, everyone looks and that’s part of their appeal


Is there anything wrong with riding a racehorse? Some prefer that over riding a donkey. I don’t know about most here but I’m older and I like being with a pretty young filly, if I wanted an old nag I’d get married or date one. There’s a saying, you’re only as old as the woman you feel and remember life is about choices. We choose who we are with not the other way around.

Nothing wrong with a racehorse. Saying it's important to you to be seen with a racehorse, that's quite different. One regular, when we walked into a restaurant (and she knew a lot more restaurants than I did - who knew a guest could have lunch at the yacht club), EVERY pair of eyes turned to watch her. The men, drooling; the women, glaring. Now did I bask in those gazes, floating through the restaurant levitating on the envy/jealousy? F*ck NO, I was looking for our table to see if our friends were there. Any way - decked out in public, wearing a bikini by the pool, or in one of my old Tee's, shorts, flip-flops, mopping the floor as she was helping clean for a dinner party at my place (she in the kitchen with some of her gf's, yakking away, cooking up some of their dishes), she was hot. Fun. But caring about how I was viewed by others by being with her? Nah...

I've known (biblical sense, paid) any number of women, all I found attractive and fun. Certainly many others agreed, but for me, machts nichts. They were not the gold chain around my neck, the Rolex on my wrist (BTW, have neither), they were just a whole lotta fun and pleasing to the eye. Actually, I think it's a bit sad when some try to recapture their youthful glory days by making age so important. But we all have fun in our own ways. Have at it.

[Sendmetheacti]

Man I regret this thread.
Please lock it.

I was here proposing a business solution to a problem that I personally faced and probably many others.

I'm still not convinced of the difference between paying X amount to a girl for her to fuck a guy she normally wouldn't..
And X+Y amount to a girl, to fuck a guy she doesn't want to fuck even more.

But it's clear this aint the place for it.

Hopefully if someone from Ginza shed eyes on this thread theyd at least be aware of the option.

There a tons of decent, Australian born, well paid indian tech guys that would happily pay X+Y, to bang Ginza girls. If the girls don't want to bang an Indian like they wouldn't bang a dog, I get it. No problem.

But if they wouldn't bang and indian because they are smelly, rude, etc.. these should probably filtered for/vouched for via a system of reputation built with the shop.. rather than a blanket ban.

Afterall from reading this thread it seems it already IS a reputation based system as there are already a few indian guys banging Ginza girls marked (no indian), simply for having a good rep with the shop.

I'm just saying that should be a bit more advertised rather than a blanket 'no indian'

[mn69]

Man I regret this thread.
Please lock it.

I was here proposing a business solution to a problem that I personally faced and probably many others.

I'm still not convinced of the difference between paying X amount to a girl for her to fuck a guy she normally wouldn't..
And X+Y amount to a girl, to fuck a guy she doesn't want to fuck even more.

But it's clear this aint the place for it.

Hopefully if someone from Ginza shed eyes on this thread theyd at least be aware of the option.

There a tons of decent, Australian born, well paid indian tech guys that would happily pay X+Y, to bang Ginza girls. If the girls don't want to bang an Indian like they wouldn't bang a dog, I get it. No problem.

But if they wouldn't bang and indian because they are smelly, rude, etc.. these should probably filtered for/vouched for via a system of reputation built with the shop.. rather than a blanket ban.

Afterall from reading this thread it seems it already IS a reputation based system as there are already a few indian guys banging Ginza girls marked (no indian), simply for having a good rep with the shop.

I'm just saying that should be a bit more advertised rather than a blanket 'no indian'

Its not just in Sydney bro. Doesnt matter if you a Western born and raised decent respectful Indian Billionaire. The girls dont care. No Indian means no Indian

What part of "No Indian" is still incomprehensible 555

Dont know if you have been to Thailand. The Thai's have the same attitude towards Indians too. It seems your countrymen have universally ruined it for you and all the decent Indian blokes

[Candy1234]

Why you still want to pay girls that don’t want to see your nash? Would you enjoy the session even though in the back of your mind you know she’s kinder hating on you, I know I won’t especially paying with me coins.

Randomly I asked why no Indians? Always got the same answer, smelly and cheap. I guess words get passed around, copy cat. Got nothing against Indians, I find them a lot more peaceful than other nashs. Unfortunately I’m not a WL lol.

Just whitening your skin and go in as a different nash if you still really want to be inside those shielas. Maybe that would work.

[11Bravo]

Why you still want to pay girls that don’t want to see your nash? Would you enjoy the session even though in the back of your mind you know she’s kinder hating on you, I know I won’t especially paying with me coins.

Myself, I know the going rates, so when a girl gives me an OTT price, I just say "No thank you". It's clear she's not really interested in an OFF (I still have hair). Like you say, I certainly don't want to be in a room with someone that doesn't want to be there with me. FOMO, that must be a real burning in the crotch. Lucky for me, when I have a crotch burn, there's a spray for that.

FOMO... Get a life... Move on...

[jedibear]

Man I regret this thread.
Please lock it.

I was here proposing a business solution to a problem that I personally faced and probably many others.

I'm still not convinced of the difference between paying X amount to a girl for her to fuck a guy she normally wouldn't..
And X+Y amount to a girl, to fuck a guy she doesn't want to fuck even more.

But it's clear this aint the place for it.

Hopefully if someone from Ginza shed eyes on this thread theyd at least be aware of the option.

There a tons of decent, Australian born, well paid indian tech guys that would happily pay X+Y, to bang Ginza girls. If the girls don't want to bang an Indian like they wouldn't bang a dog, I get it. No problem.

But if they wouldn't bang and indian because they are smelly, rude, etc.. these should probably filtered for/vouched for via a system of reputation built with the shop.. rather than a blanket ban.

Afterall from reading this thread it seems it already IS a reputation based system as there are already a few indian guys banging Ginza girls marked (no indian), simply for having a good rep with the shop.

I'm just saying that should be a bit more advertised rather than a blanket 'no indian'Mate...just get over it. These girls probably have PTSDs after a bad experience and even a guy like you may unfortunately bring that back on them...

Gosh some blokes are thick!

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[jedibear]

Its not just in Sydney bro. Doesnt matter if you a Western born and raised decent respectful Indian Billionaire. The girls dont care. No Indian means no Indian

What part of "No Indian" is still incomprehensible 555

Dont know if you have been to Thailand. The Thai's have the same attitude towards Indians too. It seems your countrymen have universally ruined it for you and all the decent Indian blokesBro, OP is thick af. Guys like him are also why they get blanket banned. Pushy, think only for themselves and never take no for an answer.

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[vitamin]

How do you I "rep"?
by seeing girls.
How do I see girls if I have no rep?
get rep.
How do I get rep?

You're not the priority to the shop owners. The girls are.

Ginza are selective with their customers.
Better customers base attract better Girls
Better quality girls increase demand. increase prices.
Increase price and screen out out the cheap punters who want 2 shot in 30min no shower. further better client base.
better clients -> better girls.

you can see how that cycle can go in reverse right?

Most J WL doesn't have a problem with a lack of client. So there is no benefit to accommodating you at the risk of losing girls. Not like they're struggling for business.

And to be honest Indians from a business perspective
Really stingy with money
Extremely demanding
Complains so much
On top of the Bad attitude, BO, and less attractive.

Ask yourself this. If you're a hot stud Duck working man. Would you want a shop that pays you 300 an hour to sleep with young thing women.

or make 180 an hour but have to see old overweight rude Karens?

-------------------------------------------

Here's the tip. Go see girls in the shop that doesn't have a no Indian policy. go often. so often they know you. Then if you want to book girls. They may put in a good word or try to make it happen for you. You don't need some stupid system. Just be known by the mama san.
You're just over complicating things.

[Double_Adapter]

Its not just in Sydney bro. Doesnt matter if you a Western born and raised decent respectful Indian Billionaire. The girls dont care. No Indian means no Indian

What part of "No Indian" is still incomprehensible 555

Dont know if you have been to Thailand. The Thai's have the same attitude towards Indians too. It seems your countrymen have universally ruined it for you and all the decent Indian blokes

The OP is desperate for an answer and a solution.

No answer is also considered an answer. So if the chicks have said 'No Indians' and the shops have responded with no answer, the OP has his answer.

Anyways, I'm in full support of the Asian WLs and good on 'em for standing up and voicing their rights.

[slim72]

OP, I think you need to look in the mirror and realise the very attitude you're exhibiting in this thread (and others like this you've started as well!) is the reason for the blanket ban.

You think there's a problem and propose what you think is a solution, although it's just extra work for the reception that will benefit no one else but you. As expected from people who live in the real world, everyone else either thinks there is no problem, or your supposed-solution won't work. Give up already!

[Zoobender]

There was a day where the whole ginza roster except for 2 girls was no Indian. I think Rebecca was one that didn't have no indian. I was surprised by how many had no indian. You might want to change shops bro looks like the writing is on the wall.

Also your idea was really stupid. And likely you need to rethink your whole strategy.

[tezzaman18]

@ Sendmetheacti

Yes . No doubt about your regrets.

But at least you gave it a go @ this Forum.

You should just look for the solution for yourself , not for your countrymen!!!
If I was Indian ( but could me mistaken for another dark complexion race), well groomed , educated , presents myself well I would not give up hope. It's called money economics.

You can give it a go to talk to GC or GE seeing you are keen on Ginza.

I believe that 99% rejection rate is overstated. For today approx 10 /23 @ GC are advertised as no Indians while it's 19/28 @ GE. On the roster ,the popular K girls are all fine with Indians.



Man I regret this thread.
Please lock it.

I was here proposing a business solution to a problem that I personally faced and probably many others.

I'm still not convinced of the difference between paying X amount to a girl for her to fuck a guy she normally wouldn't..
And X+Y amount to a girl, to fuck a guy she doesn't want to fuck even more.

But it's clear this aint the place for it.

Hopefully if someone from Ginza shed eyes on this thread theyd at least be aware of the option.

There a tons of decent, Australian born, well paid indian tech guys that would happily pay X+Y, to bang Ginza girls. If the girls don't want to bang an Indian like they wouldn't bang a dog, I get it. No problem.

But if they wouldn't bang and indian because they are smelly, rude, etc.. these should probably filtered for/vouched for via a system of reputation built with the shop.. rather than a blanket ban.

Afterall from reading this thread it seems it already IS a reputation based system as there are already a few indian guys banging Ginza girls marked (no indian), simply for having a good rep with the shop.

I'm just saying that should be a bit more advertised rather than a blanket 'no indian'

[11Bravo]

If you are "quick like a bunny", "make like a bunny", and jump over to ISG, bkk reports 1st page (as of today), post #58043, you will see why exactly so many post "No Indians". An Indian is bragging how he sneaks into a hotel from his hostel and steals breakfast and his midnight snacks (but he did pay for the whey). Probably feels like he's performing a great service with instructions to his fellow countrymen.

My $10 a night hostel has no breakfast. But I so BRAVE and clever to book my stay near the Holiday Inn Express Sathorn on the way to the gym. Free breakfast for me. Just use garage entrance elevator to lobby. No card needed. Then from lobby it looks as if you are a guest coming down from your floor to eat breakfast. No questions asked. I avoid most items and just go for the eggs and any other protein. Everybody knows that you need close to 100 g protein while keeping calories down to a limit. Mine is 2500-2700 a day. This is how I keep my lean shape. Holiday Inn also has muesli. I grab some on the way out with my own container and fill it with yogurt, granola, and milk to make my own overnight oats. Drop in some chocolate whey for an extra 25 grams protein and fiber. Delicious, only 650 calories, and almost free (paid for the whey) myself.:fire:

I could post a direct link but that's just a bit rude. But you should be able to recognize the poster commenting on his actions.

[mn69]

If you are "quick like a bunny", "make like a bunny", and jump over to ISG, bkk reports 1st page (as of today), post #58043, you will see why exactly so many post "No Indians". An Indian is bragging how he sneaks into a hotel from his hostel and steals breakfast and his midnight snacks (but he did pay for the whey). Probably feels like he's performing a great service with instructions to his fellow countrymen.

My $10 a night hostel has no breakfast. But I so BRAVE and clever to book my stay near the Holiday Inn Express Sathorn on the way to the gym. Free breakfast for me. Just use garage entrance elevator to lobby. No card needed. Then from lobby it looks as if you are a guest coming down from your floor to eat breakfast. No questions asked. I avoid most items and just go for the eggs and any other protein. Everybody knows that you need close to 100 g protein while keeping calories down to a limit. Mine is 2500-2700 a day. This is how I keep my lean shape. Holiday Inn also has muesli. I grab some on the way out with my own container and fill it with yogurt, granola, and milk to make my own overnight oats. Drop in some chocolate whey for an extra 25 grams protein and fiber. Delicious, only 650 calories, and almost free (paid for the whey) myself.:fire:

I could post a direct link but that's just a bit rude. But you should be able to recognize the poster commenting on his actions.

Thats disgusting. I don't understand the cheapness with these people. Like Thailand is already a relatively cheap destination, especially for food. And these cunts are still stealing and trying to get freebies

I can see why theres a blanket ban "No Indians". Imagine how bad it is for the girls trying to deal with them, especially for more intimate services

[mn69]

@ Sendmetheacti

Yes . No doubt about your regrets.

But at least you gave it a go @ this Forum.

You should just look for the solution for yourself , not for your countrymen!!!
If I was Indian ( but could me mistaken for another dark complexion race), well groomed , educated , presents myself well I would not give up hope. It's called money economics.

You can give it a go to talk to GC or GE seeing you are keen on Ginza.

I believe that 99% rejection rate is overstated. For today approx 10 /23 @ GC are advertised as no Indians while it's 19/28 @ GE. On the roster ,the popular K girls are all fine with Indians.

By the way, its not just Asian girls that are "No Indian". Alot of Caucasian & Western WL/Escorts also specify that they do not see "Indian/Sri LankanPakistani/Bangladeshi" men

The top K girls like I said before, are generally more expensive so theyre not going to have Indian customers anyway. They dont need to have a "No Indian" ban

Do you think a cheap Indian guy is going to book K Rebecca at $220/30 mins & $330/hour

[ColesBag]

I empathise with the OP up to a point, must be tough to have your fellow countrymen ruin your punting fun.

Still it's always the decision of a woman as to who she sleeps with. Such things are immutable.

[rooter]

I am currently in Bali.
Indians are just starting to invade this island.
You would think that with the shared Hindu religion (although Bali is a mix of Hinduism and paganism/animism) but no! Indians are lepers and untouchables here too.
Just for some context - Aussie tourists are bogan drunken scum - but they are still far preferred to Indians

[Niceguy11]

Ahh this thread. The more I speak with Ginza girls both current and former, they all say the same thing and that is some Indian customers are rough and treat the girls bad. Not all are bad but some are outright terrible !

[rooter]

I am currently in Bali.
Indians are just starting to invade this island.
You would think that with the shared Hindu religion (although Bali is a mix of Hinduism and paganism/animism) but no! Indians are lepers and untouchables here too.
Just for some context - Aussie tourists are bogan drunken scum - but they are still far preferred to Indians

An old sunburnt drunk balding tattooed Aussie with a bad goatee is still preferred to a young Indian

[Double_Adapter]

A few years ago an Afro American female started a social movement for women of colour that had experienced sexual harassment and violence, the movement was called 'Me Too'.

It seems the Asian WLs have started their own movement....the ' No Indian' movement.

[rooter]

A few years ago an Afro American female started a social movement for women of colour that had experienced sexual harassment and violence, the movement was called 'Me Too'.

It seems the Asian WLs have started their own movement....the ' No Indian' movement.
Hahaha 'No Indian? Me Too!" LOL!

[mn69]

A few years ago an Afro American female started a social movement for women of colour that had experienced sexual harassment and violence, the movement was called 'Me Too'.

It seems the Asian WLs have started their own movement....the ' No Indian' movement.

Then next minute, you see all these Asian WL's eventually coming out to speak out about the sexual harassment and violence they experienced at the hands of an Indian 555


An old sunburnt drunk balding tattooed Aussie with a bad goatee is still preferred to a young Indian

Its the same as Thailand & Cambodia. Old bald fat Farangs with cheaply done bad tattoos and goatees/beards. They all look the same.

I dont know what is it about these countries that draws these exact same type of men. They are more welcome in GoGo bars than Indians though.

[suka03]

hahaha I can’t believe this threads still continuing. Let it go and move on, if a girl has their own preference of “No Indian” just respect that, even some don’t want to see their own people i.e Korean WL seeing “ No Korean”. Nothing wrong with that, who bloody cares about your money and even if you have high paying job or intelligence. It’s all about attitude priority, unfortunately your people has paint the majority the negativity of that.

No offense, I have a colleague too who is Indian when I do have conversations about how we can work things out he seem to be up themselves to be over smart, don’t want to listen/find win win solution but worst part attitude is rude. Then gets arrogant when I try to questions or debate.

[hornedbeast]

Might be easier for the entire shop to go down the No Indian path

[11Bravo]

Some more instructions/confessions from Mr. Frugality on ISG (note: I have added the bold in the quote):

Free Silom coffee shops?
Anybody knows where in Silom has coffee shops that don't require any purchase for you to just sit there, take off your shoes, prop your feet onto another chair, and relax while browsing porn on your tablet or smart and phone? I got caught in the heavy rain yesterday afternoon and had to use my skills at Starbucks. They have luxurious chairs for their customers. All I did was pretend to clear a table and snagged the previous customer's old cup and made myself at home. Did NOT have to buy anything. Was able to watch an entire full length porn movie. This was a nice feeling. On the way out, grabbed 10 packets of brown sugar for my oatmeal. I usually prefer monk fruit, calorie free, but I am always on a deficit anyways, so it doesn't matter much.

7-11 is great. Pay 26 baht for a cup at the self service coffee station. I took 10 packets of 3 in 1 espresso and added to the large cup. Then added a bit of hot water to half. Filled the rest with the cold Thai tea off the fountain. It was of course caffeine strong and sweetly condensed. Then bought a 1500 ML bottle water for 14 baht. For 40 baht total, got me 10-12 iced coffees to last over a week. ]

Thailand is a very conservative society, really. Buddhist, so the head is considered sacred (no patting of kids' heads), and the feet are considered unclean (as they are in most religions). And I can't imagine watching porn in public would be acceptable in Calcutta, in Sydney, so why would one assume it is in BKK?

Now some might be impressed with his frugality and ingenuity, but I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination that providers would not be, nor would managers/owners. While one might be thinking that the money saved might be lavished on providers, well, maybe not:

Booked a girl off TF in afternoon. The hostel I stay at has no reception unless there is a check in. When she arrives she sees 4 bunks in single room. Paid her extra 200 to do the deed behind the curtains of my bunk while my girl roommates where "I think" sleeping. LOL.

This is what the providers hear, what they see. While this is ONE bad apple, the attitude stench taints all. Instead of trying to solve shops'/girls' attitude problem, perhaps another solution might be to school fellow countrymen on acceptable behavior. Create a population where this behavior is the outlier rather than not all that surprising. Of course, you'd have to convince prospective students that their behavior IS a problem...

[11Bravo]

THis is common amongst backpackers all over the world. It's not an "Indian" thing.
Theft is theft, cheating is cheating.

When I was backpacking, we shared info on good places to stay, good places to eat, good places to see. We didn't share good places to rip off. We understood we were guests. I don't know, maybe it's an age thing.

I'm old school: when you travel, you ARE an ambassador for your country. Seems others think the same way, just ask the Ginza ladies. Or the members who can't see the Ginza ladies through no fault of the individual member.

What's the old saying: No individual raindrop believes it's responsible for the flood. But you get enough raindrops... building to a consensus of opinion.


Might be easier for the entire shop to go down the No Indian path
So what's the big deal? Some eggs, some coffee, not buying anything. Well, ask the hotel owners. Or the cafe owners. Or ask the customers who are now complaining about higher prices due to inventory loss or tables not contributing to income (ask any restaurant or cafe, each table is expected to generate so much income per hour). And yes, I am irritated when there are no napkin dispensers, just the single napkin provide on the tray.

[Niceguy11]

An ex Ginza girl told me and this straight from her mouth “I don’t like Indian men”. I didn’t have to ask her why because I already knew why but she explained it anyway. As usual, they are rough and handle the girls really bad. They know they can still make money if they say no to Indians or other nationalities. Other girls are open to seeing Indian customers because they don’t care and want the $$$. At the end of the day, treat them with respect and 99.9% of the time, the girl will treat you well. I’ve had some WL’s compliment me on how nice I am but honestly, I’m not doing a lot to impress them. I just show them respect and treat them well. I couldn’t be rough with a WL. It’s just straight out rude.

[11Bravo]

At the end of the day, treat them with respect and 99.9% of the time, the girl will treat you well. I’ve had some WL’s compliment me on how nice I am but honestly, I’m not doing a lot to impress them. I just show them respect and treat them well. I couldn’t be rough with a WL. It’s just straight out rude.So TRUE.

As I've said before, 20 years ago, when I mentioned to my mate how I was being treated so well by the providers and I wasn't doing anything special, not paying OTT, just treating them as a person, I've never forgotten his reply. "And so, what does that tell you about their average customer when guys like us are treated like kings?"

Just the other day, new shop (to me), new provider (to me). Great session. After we were finished and I was dressing, she said she could tell I was a nice person from the minute I walked in. Maybe it was because the first word I said was "Hello" and not "Bend over and brace".

You treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. You treat her like a person, she'll be a person. 'Nuff said.

[OldBaldFatFarang]

An ex Ginza girl told me and this straight from her mouth “I don’t like Indian men”. I didn’t have to ask her why because I already knew why but she explained it anyway. As usual, they are rough and handle the girls really bad. They know they can still make money if they say no to Indians or other nationalities. Other girls are open to seeing Indian customers because they don’t care and want the $$$. At the end of the day, treat them with respect and 99.9% of the time, the girl will treat you well. I’ve had some WL’s compliment me on how nice I am but honestly, I’m not doing a lot to impress them. I just show them respect and treat them well. I couldn’t be rough with a WL. It’s just straight out rude.

Numerically speaking, ALOT of Indian men must have been rough and disrespectful towards WL's/ML's to have all 1.4 Billion Indians banned & blacklisted LOLOLOL

[totallynotsusofc]

Might be easier for the entire shop to go down the No Indian path

I think GE might be but I can't say for certain. Every girl on Monday had No Indian, even the girls that didn't have it previously. Mind you that was what was posted on the website, the roster posted on the forum was different. Roster at GC still had some without the No Indian tag but again, can't speak for certain.

Can't say I won't be a bit cheesed a little if this is going to be a thing but it's not the fault of the GE group, unfortunately a little bit of respect and boundaries is too much to ask from some folks.

[MarkSSS]

These people are arrogant, cheap, demanding and lacking in respect.

[OldBaldFatFarang]

I think GE might be but I can't say for certain. Every girl on Monday had No Indian, even the girls that didn't have it previously. Mind you that was what was posted on the website, the roster posted on the forum was different. Roster at GC still had some without the No Indian tag but again, can't speak for certain.

Can't say I won't be a bit cheesed a little if this is going to be a thing but it's not the fault of the GE group, unfortunately a little bit of respect and boundaries is too much to ask from some folks.

These people are arrogant, cheap, demanding and lacking in respect.

I support the GE group & other shops 100% (No5/42,Sakura, Kyoto, 45G) in respecting the girls wishes of not wanting to see Indian men.

Yes. As MarkSSS posted above.

I would find it completely un-democratic if any Asian girl, or any girl for that matter was forced to service such customers against her wishes/preferences

[chemistry84]

Take a look at Twitter and the whole H1B visa immigration on the right and you'll quickly find Indians are basically becoming the most hated group out there. Aside from these hoes not wanting to see Indians, bunch of everyday folks don't want to deal with them either.

My problem with the ones I've dealt with is they refuse to assimilate, act like AUS is India and basically carry out thinking they can do the same shit here. Sure there are ones born and raised in AUS but unfortunately other indians have ruined it for them. Interesting note my mate who's ironically Aussie Born Indian told me the Indians that moved over 20-30 years ago were the 'more educated, more grounded' compared to the 'bottom tier' that are getting all those visas.

Separately a lot of girls I've been saying also now outright refuse to deal with Indians so it's not getting any better.

[hornedbeast]

Curious to know, when you say, "refuse to assimilate," what do you mean by "assimilate"?

Refuse to take a bath

[F0x]

Curious to know, when you say, "refuse to assimilate," what do you mean by "assimilate"?

Essentially, 'When in Rome....'

[Costy]

Imagine how many horny Indians will be turned away after the first day of the SCG test.

[OldBaldFatFarang]

Essentially, 'When in Rome....'
Do as the Romans do...

This "No Indian" rule is completely acceptable. Alot of these Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Viet, Thai, Malay girls are in a vulnerable situation. They're in a foreign country. Alot cannot speak English. They don't know the Law & their Rights.

Then having to put up with some smelly, cheap, rude, disrespectful, aggressive, arrogant Indian would be a nightmare for her...

[OldBaldFatFarang]

If y'all look at tomorrows roster, pretty much every girl is "No Indian" LOLOL 555

I'm glad these girls are exercising their Rights

God Bless Freedom & Democracy
God Bless the Free World

[Costy]

I’ve only been to Bali once for a friend’s wedding. A lot of the the brides friends were from Penrith. We went to potato head and bumped into some Aussies that were also from the riff. The interaction was hilarious.. no way! I’m from jamiesontown too aye! They were also bogans 🤣. Long story short I’m never going to Bali again.

[personaa]

Bali, only stay in your 5 star at Nusa Dua and go snorkelling at Nusa Penida. Relax and enjoy amenities in the hotel! No punting for me as I don't find Indonesians attractive.

For Indians, all I can say is that I would very much appreciate if some could understand that Sydney is different from their city back in India which means stop shouting on the phone while sitting in your balcony and chatting with family members back home. This is for real, I was in level 18 of a high rise and this dude used to sit in the balcony around midnight during weekdays and keep on shouting on the phone. 'Get the F inside, it's midnight and people have work tomorrow'.

[F0x]

Oh right, so like Australians in Thailand and Bali.

Difference is, they probably aren't here on holidays.

Doesn't mean it's an excuse, and I'm always polite courteous and understanding in Bali, fucking love the place and my Tattoo artist is there, but I'm not going there to live.

If I want to live there my priorities are learning the language without accent, following local customs and ways within moral reasons as closely as I can. Obviously if the customs for example allow violence and assault against Women I'm not going to do that. But if it means I need to leave a bit of food left in my plate (I usually clean the plate to the point it doesnt need cleaning) to show my host I've had enough to eat, or refrain from PDAs in public because it's not considered polite, I'll follow it.

I'll 'assimilate'.

[11Bravo]

If y'all look at tomorrows roster, pretty much every girl is "No Indian" LOLOL 555

I'm glad these girls are exercising their Rights

God Bless Freedom & Democracy
God Bless the Free World
From Bangkok courtesy of Stickman, Dec 15, 2024
The Indian theme continues, and from the owner of one of the top / best-known gogo bars in Bangkok – which shall remain nameless – comes more feedback about Indian customers that, again, suggests to me, there are going to be issues in the near future as more Indians visit the bar areas. The bar has a loose, seldom-enforced policy whereby punters are asked to order another drink if they have not finished their first drink after 45 minutes. (As a side note, just in case you’re wondering how staff know how long you’ve been sitting on your first drink, the drinks system in most bars is computerised and service staff can see the exact time each order was made.) When some Indians are asked to buy another drink they often refuse – as is their right. However, at that point they are asked to leave. Some don’t take this well and get stroppy. That’s one thing, but it doesn’t end there. Inevitably, a nasty 1-star review follows on Google Reviews the next day. As this gogo bar owner said to me in an email this week, this is the number 1 reason why more bars are making the decision not to allow entry to Indians.

From Bangkok courtesy of Stickman, Dec 01, 2024
In Bangkok, Soi Nana is the preferred bar area for Indians but it should be noted that not every bar welcomes them. At least one gogo bar, which just so happens to be a favourite amongst Stickman readers – particularly old-hands – does not welcome Indians. The ageing lady who runs this small bar says she doesn’t want Indians in her bar as many try to negotiate drinks prices. As such, Indians aren’t allowed inside.

And in another long-running bar on Soi Nana which I shall not name, but simply describe as being popular with Brits, the owner has specific rules for Indian visitors. If it’s an Indian couple, such as husband and wife, they are welcome. Single Indian men, however, are not welcome at all.

There are Indians everywhere. At one bar, Harem, they were standing gawping at the topless girls and the Indian guy beside me was standing up and continuously grabbing the dancer’s breasts much to her annoyance while security allowed this to happen. In Phuket, Indians are becoming a pain.


And this just in bars... Yes, Ozland is not The Land of Smiles, but methinks the behavior doesn't change... Blanket bans easier than individual vetting...


Do as the Romans do...

This "No Indian" rule is completely acceptable. Alot of these Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Viet, Thai, Malay girls are in a vulnerable situation. They're in a foreign country. Alot cannot speak English. They don't know the Law & their Rights.

Then having to put up with some smelly, cheap, rude, disrespectful, aggressive, arrogant Indian would be a nightmare for her...
Now imagine a country where prostitution is illegal, both WG and John subject to arrest, jail, and deportation. With dog packs of Indians looking to "cop a feel" as she passes, in the bar, on the street...

One story that made the newspaper, an Indian punter went to the police complaining that he was "cheated", she not providing all the services he'd paid for... That boy was definitely looking for VFM and making a formal complaint when it wasn't delivered. One could only hope he got plenty of sex while enjoying free room and board... anal too...

[personaa]

Yeah it was one person but I doubt if he would be the only one. Whether you like it or not, there are issues with the community otherwise why a backlash from WLs affecting their cash flow?

Hopefully, the new migrants will adapt better to Australian society in next couple of decades.