J Nozomi - an unfortunate series of events for a beginner punter

[secret0]

Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster.

I visited Nozomi on her last day (Friday 18/10), but as a beginner punter, thought I'd share my first experience as I'm sure there are plenty of other lurkers who aren't sure where to begin and could use some info.

I had to come into the city office for the day, so thought I'd finally give punting a go. I originally had Maki at Ginza Club in mind as I didn't see any reviews and wanted a fully new experience, but while she was on roster for Friday the night before, the day of, I noticed she wasn't. I then messaged GE about Hayami and Chako, but both were busy. First tip for noobs: book early - pretty much as soon as the next day roster comes out

When I did ask who was available, they said Nozomi. I checked the website and here for reviews, and while reviews and her stats were all fitting the bill, it was her last day (and I've read enough here about how varied that can be). Decided to take the gamble anyway and booked her for 1 hour.

J Nozomi

Face: 7.5/10 Very cute face and smile, though I'm not a big fan of lots of makeup or coloured lenses, and actually think she could do with a little less makeup/fake lashes to let her natural features stand out more - especially her eyes - but I know that's the look most other people go for, which is why we have all those filtered photos. In this case, the photos were accurate once you factor in the filtering (widening eyes and whitening skin).
Slightly large front teeth, but adds to the cuteness.
Overall, she's cute and becomes cuter when she smiles
Second tip for noobs: find reviews if face matters to you, and always take website photos with a huge grain of salt

Body: 7/10 Nice B-cups. They're big enough to have a nice rounded underside hang, but small and tight enough to not sag at all. A little too small for a good handful. Small tattoo above right breast.
Her waist to hip ratio from the front/back is insane: narrow waist to wide hips to nicely rounded ass. She definitely does have a noticeable belly going, but only when she's on all fours would you see it. Not a problem or a criticism at all, but the descriptions given by others and the website are accurate. Large tramp stamp.
Lasered smooth pussy, thick mound, and positioned pretty low. Very tight entrance, and thick hood hiding her tiny clit.
Tight little winky butthole, but unfortunately she had a noticeable hemorrhoid.
Overall, her body was great in all the right ways, but looking closer and experiencing it was not as great as it could have been.

Service/Experience: 5/10 I had had a long day at work, so was pretty tired by the end of my shift (not bad, but drained). It was cooler and raining for most of the day, but by the time I started walking to GE, the sun was out and it was a lot warmer than I expected it to be, so was sweating up a storm by the time I got there. I was early, so was directed to the room, and took that opportunity to shower because was feeling pretty gross. I was done when she came in, so she had a quick one by herself. After my own shower, I already felt pretty sleepy and relaxed while waiting for her. While trying to chat to her, I realised just how little English she knew. Even when I said I had 'had a long day/was tired', she just smiled and tilted her head. I told her it was my first time punting, which I don't think she understood either, but she did understand when I asked if it was her last day.

In terms of service, while I was tired from the day I'd had, it also felt like she'd either just got up after a nap, or was tired. She was very passive, and while letting me lead, didn't really prompt much. DFK was nice in the beginning, but fell off during the session. It felt like FOAM during DATY/FIV/PIV, but I guess she was wet enough to pussy slide without lube. During 69 is when I got an eyeful of her hemorrhoid. And there were a few moments of teeth during BBBJ, even though I'm a bit below average in size. I also realised we forgot to mouthwash at the beginning of the session. Third tip for noobs: don't go for someone labelled inexperienced if you really need someone to lead and show you what to do.

As the session went on, my tiredness, her lack of initiative and service, and the inability to connect all kind of compounded. I found it difficult to stay hard when she dommed me up (I'm one of those people who really feel nothing with them on - it's always been raw with regular checks, STI free, and BC pills with previous partners), so had to finish myself off in her mouth at the end.

Overall: 5/10, the language barrier made it the most difficult to make a connection, and while a lot of it was me just not feeling it (and I know I don't have anything to compare it to) I have to say Nozomi's service was pretty disappointing (especially for $310). I think she's a sweet girl, and I get she's inexperienced, but I feel like she could have tried a lot more.

Fourth tip for noobs: last days are a gamble

I asked her if she would be back, and she said 'maybe' (she says she's a 20yo student), so I would put it closer to 'no' than 'yes', but who knows.
She gave me a hug goodbye, and when I wished her a safe flight home, she gave a very genuine smile and thank you.
I really do wish her the best, even though we didn't click.

I would like to give a shout-out and big thanks to the GE reception gents.
They were very helpful, and asked about my experience (I just told them 6/10 as I was still tired and didn't elaborate much other than she could have tried more), and answered some questions I had on other girls.
I would have stayed and asked more to get a better idea of who I should be choosing to get the experience/service I want, but they were very busy with the rest of you blowing up their phones for bookings on a Friday night, so left.
And when I got home, I had a quick shower and passed out from the long day.

A disappointing first ever punt, but not really anyone's fault, and more a myriad of unfortunate circumstances. At least it was a good learning experience.
Definitely not going to be my last experience. The dating scene and apps are horrible at the moment, and I'd rather drop money every few weeks and know what I get with a punt than spend the same time being one of dozens chatting up the same woman online who's not even trying to keep a conversation going, or a coffee/dinner date that goes nowhere because same thing. Hell, at this point, I'm willing to learn Japanese so I can converse with the Ginza girls - at least they'll be more interesting.
I'll plan better next time to make sure I'm rested and ready to go, and likely go with one of the Korean service queens I keep reading about.

Anyway, that was a long post. Hopefully I'll be back next time with good news and a proper AR.

Oh, and if anyone has any suggestions/recommendations for ladies who provide very good service and can lead, please send them my way and TIA.

[belvaros]

Sorry about your FIRST experience... keep punching I say.
FWIW Ginza and Empire are 2 of the best places for this hobby in the world, IMHO. I am not saying that lightly. It is indeed the only place where management have asked me going into a session about preferences and then asking for a review on the way out.........

I could tell you horror stories from my days in Africa, Thailand, Singapore, Las Vegas, NYC, New Orleans, Budapest etc.... some of which are deathly dangerous or, in the case of Hungary, where only about 3 in 10 punts are any good. In those FL places one has to really research and work at it to get results (I used to love the chase)....... these days I like a sure thing and Ginza has many of those..... Then again, in Morocco, I had 11 girls in a 6 month period, all of whom I met socially, all of whom were fucking awesome... YMMV

The great thing about Ginza is that management are excellent and proactive, plus all the ground work is done for you because each lady is available in the one place... 25-30 a day at Empire and a bit less at Ginza Club.

I RECOMMEND...... that YOU tgo through all the profiles and pictures without reading reviews..... find the girls in the exact style you like....and only go with them to start. Maybe try one of the service oriented K ladies, Rebecca, Misha, Chaerin, Ari etc or if you want YOUNGER try K Choo or other performer... but once again find the exact style for you.

e.g. I like small busty girls, petite flat chested ladies, or if a lady is tall she either has to be huge busted (like a C Cici, C Alice etc) or have a model-esque body like K Julia.

The 1st 4 girls I did at Empire were all as I walked off the street "blind" as it were, with no booking or preconceived ideas as I hadn't found this forum yet... a guy off ISG had done a review AR on C Coco so I gave Ginza a go.... luckily I lucked my way into J Honoka 1st who to date of 70+ p4p lasses around the world is my favourite (ever)... in 35+ years of doing this... then Misa, then Chaerin and then others at Ginza mixed in with some Russians, Ukrainians, Moroccans and Aussies I've lucked into.

From my own research I then get a "playbook" of who to do next or if I really LUST for a girl, I go back to her...... see J Honoka, J Misa, K Chaerin, K Choo, J Omi, J Marie etc.. my only no repeat so far will be J Aona because we didn't gel, more due to my tastes then her ability.....

My current to do list in some type of order (ladies in Sydney at the moment) = V Erin, K Julia, C Alice, C Cici, V Honey, J Konan, K Tina etc etc... if they are working when I'm in Sydney then I book the 1st one I can on the quietest, earliest time possible... (say try a Monday late morning when many of the K girls are on)

Good luck young mate
So as we say YMMV but keep punching

[hornedbeast]

You need full energy to fuck and shoot cum. Avoid booking if you will be so tired from the start. Next time you will enjoy more.

[BigDTPSE]

yes, what the fellas said, you need energy to enjoy it and perform well. also agree with belvaros, i've been around in diff countries and ginza is by far the best i've tried.
try book the girls earlier in the day (early afternoon), i have them either before lunch or few hours after lunch or before dinner (which is not possible for some people dep on schedule i know).
coffee also helps (for me anyway) if you're doing an early session. good luck and have fun!

[secret0]

Sorry about your FIRST experience... keep punching I say.
FWIW Ginza and Empire are 2 of the best places for this hobby in the world, IMHO. I am not saying that lightly. It is indeed the only place where management have asked me going into a session about preferences and then asking for a review on the way out.........

Cheers, mate. Yeah, I spent a lot of time reading the forum, and I'm pretty much set on visiting only GE/GC and Marrickville No5 (maybe 42G). The biggest factor other than range of girls is that all the reviews show the management actually care about service and the girls themselves - consistently asking customers for feedback and actually acting on them.


I RECOMMEND...... that YOU tgo through all the profiles and pictures without reading reviews..... find the girls in the exact style you like....and only go with them to start. Maybe try one of the service oriented K ladies, Rebecca, Misha, Chaerin, Ari etc or if you want YOUNGER try K Choo or other performer... but once again find the exact style for you.

My original plan was J Maki at GC (fit the type I'm usually attracted to, and doesn't have any reviews here), but she disappeared off the roster morning after it was released. J Nazuna was my second choice for same reasons, but reception didn't recommend her, and she's also off the roster now.
I'm planning on meeting a Korean service queen next.

Thanks for the advice all! Hoping to return with better news.

[GINZA]

Sorry about your experience with nuzumi…
We will arrange a teacher teach her more. And keep eye on her service
Also could u contact shop as u don’t have pm box yet. I will fix it for you. :miao:

Cheers

[belvaros]

A+ [Ginza Management]

[Jack-Jack]

Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster.

I visited Nozomi on her last day (Friday 18/10), but as a beginner punter, thought I'd share my first experience as I'm sure there are plenty of other lurkers who aren't sure where to begin and could use some info.

I had to come into the city office for the day, so thought I'd finally give punting a go. I originally had Maki at Ginza Club in mind as I didn't see any reviews and wanted a fully new experience, but while she was on roster for Friday the night before, the day of, I noticed she wasn't. I then messaged GE about Hayami and Chako, but both were busy. First tip for noobs: book early - pretty much as soon as the next day roster comes out

When I did ask who was available, they said Nozomi. I checked the website and here for reviews, and while reviews and her stats were all fitting the bill, it was her last day (and I've read enough here about how varied that can be). Decided to take the gamble anyway and booked her for 1 hour.

J Nozomi

Face: 7.5/10 Very cute face and smile, though I'm not a big fan of lots of makeup or coloured lenses, and actually think she could do with a little less makeup/fake lashes to let her natural features stand out more - especially her eyes - but I know that's the look most other people go for, which is why we have all those filtered photos. In this case, the photos were accurate once you factor in the filtering (widening eyes and whitening skin).
Slightly large front teeth, but adds to the cuteness.
Overall, she's cute and becomes cuter when she smiles
Second tip for noobs: find reviews if face matters to you, and always take website photos with a huge grain of salt

Body: 7/10 Nice B-cups. They're big enough to have a nice rounded underside hang, but small and tight enough to not sag at all. A little too small for a good handful. Small tattoo above right breast.
Her waist to hip ratio from the front/back is insane: narrow waist to wide hips to nicely rounded ass. She definitely does have a noticeable belly going, but only when she's on all fours would you see it. Not a problem or a criticism at all, but the descriptions given by others and the website are accurate. Large tramp stamp.
Lasered smooth pussy, thick mound, and positioned pretty low. Very tight entrance, and thick hood hiding her tiny clit.
Tight little winky butthole, but unfortunately she had a noticeable hemorrhoid.
Overall, her body was great in all the right ways, but looking closer and experiencing it was not as great as it could have been.

Service/Experience: 5/10 I had had a long day at work, so was pretty tired by the end of my shift (not bad, but drained). It was cooler and raining for most of the day, but by the time I started walking to GE, the sun was out and it was a lot warmer than I expected it to be, so was sweating up a storm by the time I got there. I was early, so was directed to the room, and took that opportunity to shower because was feeling pretty gross. I was done when she came in, so she had a quick one by herself. After my own shower, I already felt pretty sleepy and relaxed while waiting for her. While trying to chat to her, I realised just how little English she knew. Even when I said I had 'had a long day/was tired', she just smiled and tilted her head. I told her it was my first time punting, which I don't think she understood either, but she did understand when I asked if it was her last day.

In terms of service, while I was tired from the day I'd had, it also felt like she'd either just got up after a nap, or was tired. She was very passive, and while letting me lead, didn't really prompt much. DFK was nice in the beginning, but fell off during the session. It felt like FOAM during DATY/FIV/PIV, but I guess she was wet enough to pussy slide without lube. During 69 is when I got an eyeful of her hemorrhoid. And there were a few moments of teeth during BBBJ, even though I'm a bit below average in size. I also realised we forgot to mouthwash at the beginning of the session. Third tip for noobs: don't go for someone labelled inexperienced if you really need someone to lead and show you what to do.

As the session went on, my tiredness, her lack of initiative and service, and the inability to connect all kind of compounded. I found it difficult to stay hard when she dommed me up (I'm one of those people who really feel nothing with them on - it's always been raw with regular checks, STI free, and BC pills with previous partners), so had to finish myself off in her mouth at the end.

Overall: 6/10, the language barrier made it the most difficult to make a connection, and while a lot of it was me just not feeling it (and I know I don't have anything to compare it to) I have to say Nozomi's service was pretty disappointing (especially for $310). I think she's a sweet girl, and I get she's inexperienced, but I feel like she could have tried a lot more.

Fourth tip for noobs: last days are a gamble

I asked her if she would be back, and she said 'maybe' (she says she's a 20yo student), so I would put it closer to 'no' than 'yes', but who knows.
She gave me a hug goodbye, and when I wished her a safe flight home, she gave a very genuine smile and thank you.
I really do wish her the best, even though we didn't click.

I would like to give a shout-out and big thanks to the GE reception gents.
They were very helpful, and asked about my experience (I just told them 6/10 as I was still tired and didn't elaborate much other than she could have tried more), and answered some questions I had on other girls.
I would have stayed and asked more to get a better idea of who I should be choosing to get the experience/service I want, but they were very busy with the rest of you blowing up their phones for bookings on a Friday night, so left.
And when I got home, I had a quick shower and passed out from the long day.

A disappointing first ever punt, but not really anyone's fault, and more a myriad of unfortunate circumstances. At least it was a good learning experience.
Definitely not going to be my last experience. The dating scene and apps are horrible at the moment, and I'd rather drop money every few weeks and know what I get with a punt than spend the same time being one of dozens chatting up the same woman online who's not even trying to keep a conversation going, or a coffee/dinner date that goes nowhere because same thing. Hell, at this point, I'm willing to learn Japanese so I can converse with the Ginza girls - at least they'll be more interesting.
I'll plan better next time to make sure I'm rested and ready to go, and likely go with one of the Korean service queens I keep reading about.

Anyway, that was a long post. Hopefully I'll be back next time with good news and a proper AR.

Oh, and if anyone has any suggestions/recommendations for ladies who provide very good service and can lead, please send them my way and TIA.

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welcome long time lurker but first time posting

The above was lets just say a very interesting read...

so you have been lurking for a long time and obviously read heaps and heaps of reviews so i gather you have a rough idea which girls are the service queens and guaranteed to give you a good time?

yet you even say so yourself that you knew it was Nozomi last day and know how this can turn out but you still went ahead with booking her?

not to discount your review or call it non factual but i feel like the score is a bit harsh esp if she did all the diamond services and you managed to finish and CUM

While i acknowledge you put heaps and heaps of disclaimers and even note your performance coming down to possibly being tired and also the girl... i dont think the girl should be called out if you go soft and struggle to get hard?

most of all this part of the AR specifically sounds super suss NGL.... "As the session went on, my tiredness, her lack of initiative and service, and the inability to connect all kind of compounded. I found it difficult to stay hard when she dommed me up (I'm one of those people who really feel nothing with them on -it's always been raw ....

You mention "When I did ask who was available, they said Nozomi. I checked the website" -- Nozomi clearly has "limited english in her profile" if you are looking to chat and connect why did you still pick her then?

you say this "A disappointing first ever punt, but not really anyone's fault" which is kinda contradicting and then go on to critique the girl quite a bit..

also the story doesnt add up.... from memory J Maki at club was also inexperienced/green apple?

so you want good experience and expect the girl to lead etc but opt to go for the ones tagged inexperienced?

Better luck next time and i think you are right go for the K Queens... tried tested and well reviewed ones

Its probably a smart and wise choice to go for the experienced girls if you want a good time and breaking ur punt virginity with an inexperienced girl on her last day....

i dont usually come out to defend the girls but ive seen her like 7 times all consistent services...

shes been around for like 2 weeks and this is the first bad review... based on your join date and even mentioning yourself you have been lurking would of thought the above points you called out as tips to noobs would have been obvious and deterred you from seeing Nozomi

i just feel like shes overly critiqued in the above AR and the score on service esp since you also mentioned how tired and out of it you were (drained physically)

[hornedbeast]

One should limit criticism of girl if tired and limp

[secret0]

Sorry about your FIRST experience... keep punching I say.
FWIW Ginza and Empire are 2 of the best places for this hobby in the world, IMHO. I am not saying that lightly. It is indeed the only place where management have asked me going into a session about preferences and then asking for a review on the way out.........

I could tell you horror stories from my days in Africa, Thailand, Singapore, Las Vegas, NYC, New Orleans, Budapest etc.... some of which are deathly dangerous or, in the case of Hungary, where only about 3 in 10 punts are any good. In those FL places one has to really research and work at it to get results (I used to love the chase)....... these days I like a sure thing and Ginza has many of those..... Then again, in Morocco, I had 11 girls in a 6 month period, all of whom I met socially, all of whom were fucking awesome... YMMV

The great thing about Ginza is that management are excellent and proactive, plus all the ground work is done for you because each lady is available in the one place... 25-30 a day at Empire and a bit less at Ginza Club.

I RECOMMEND...... that YOU tgo through all the profiles and pictures without reading reviews..... find the girls in the exact style you like....and only go with them to start. Maybe try one of the service oriented K ladies, Rebecca, Misha, Chaerin, Ari etc or if you want YOUNGER try K Choo or other performer... but once again find the exact style for you.

e.g. I like small busty girls, petite flat chested ladies, or if a lady is tall she either has to be huge busted (like a C Cici, C Alice etc) or have a model-esque body like K Julia.

The 1st 4 girls I did at Empire were all as I walked off the street "blind" as it were, with no booking or preconceived ideas as I hadn't found this forum yet... a guy off ISG had done a review AR on C Coco so I gave Ginza a go.... luckily I lucked my way into J Honoka 1st who to date of 70+ p4p lasses around the world is my favourite (ever)... in 35+ years of doing this... then Misa, then Chaerin and then others at Ginza mixed in with some Russians, Ukrainians, Moroccans and Aussies I've lucked into.

From my own research I then get a "playbook" of who to do next or if I really LUST for a girl, I go back to her...... see J Honoka, J Misa, K Chaerin, K Choo, J Omi, J Marie etc.. my only no repeat so far will be J Aona because we didn't gel, more due to my tastes then her ability.....

My current to do list in some type of order (ladies in Sydney at the moment) = V Erin, K Julia, C Alice, C Cici, V Honey, J Konan, K Tina etc etc... if they are working when I'm in Sydney then I book the 1st one I can on the quietest, earliest time possible... (say try a Monday late morning when many of the K girls are on)

Good luck young mate
So as we say YMMV but keep punching

Thanks, mate. Yes, I've pretty much decided on only visiting Ginza E/C and No5 Marrickville (maybe 42G), based on everything I've read on the forum - like you said, excellent and proactive management (I wrote this before they replied to my post, but didn't get through), and they definitely care about the girls and the service, and actually do something about it.

My original plan was to visit J Maki at GC, as she fit the usual type of girl I'm attracted to and there weren't any reviews of her, but she disappeared off the roster overnight. Later when I asked GE reception about Nazuna (as she was another I had in mind for same reasons), they didn't recommend her and said she was leaving soon too.

Thanks for the recommendations for K service queens.

Hopefully I return with better news next time.

[secret0]

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welcome long time lurker but first time posting

The above was lets just say a very interesting read...

Hi Jack,

Sorry, I get that you feel defensive about the girls, and to be honest, I would feel the same way too (reading your post about reception/girls telling you about that customer being violent made me angry and made me feel empathetic for and defensive of the girls too, even if I haven't even met them yet). But I still feel the service she provided warranted the score I gave.

It wasn't just the website I went off. Despite knowing the last day variation, and her status as 'inexperienced', for the week before, I've been reading all the reviews for the Ginza girls (and I read all your posts multiple times), and those reviews also factored into making the booking. While the website says "inexperienced", the punters (including yourself) say she is 'service oriented' and provide service way above all the other J girls. I get there's no universal punter's definition of 'inexperienced', but if everyone (including yourself) is saying she provides some level of service, and I receive service that doesn't match (or come close), should I not be saying I didn't receive that level of service? And is that the same with other girls who are labelled 'inexperienced' but have reviews dating back over a year?
Yes, I did put in that I was tired, and while that did factor a lot into it, I would be complaining too if I wasn't tired and she provided the same service she did that day. And even in my state, I felt like I was doing most of the work to make it enjoyable for the both of us.
Yes, I took the gamble knowing it was her last day, but should I (and others) not say anything if it feels like a girl is phoning it in on her last day? As customers, should we all just spend money on substandard service and just take it on the chin?

Yes, I'm learning all this as someone completely new, so sorry I don't know absolutely everything right from the start (even with all the reading I've done of everyone else's completely differing experiences), and definitely YMMV factors in a lot. I think she is a sweet girl, and genuinely wish her the best, but as a customer, I don't think I received a good level of service, based on the expectations set by others and regardless of my own state at the time.

I swear, I'm not trying to attack you (and definitely not her), nor am I trying to start an argument (I know all the above might seem like it, but I'm really asking those in good faith), but I have detailed all the mitigating factors and titled my post as unfortunate events for a reason, a lot of things contributed to what happened, but despite all that, if you remove it all - hell, remove me from that - if some other punter received the same level of service, they would be complaining too.

Anyway, I do hope to return with better news from my next punt, and look forward to more of your reviews.

[Meng]

I personally think secret0's review was quite balanced and he put a lot of disclaimers.

We should encourage ARs on this forum both good and bad. People shouldn't feel scared to write a not so good AR about a girl so long as it's balanced and highlights the good and the bad which secret has done.

In regards to going with a girl that's on their last day. It's very common that when you're horny and fully prepared to punt. It's a bit too hard to just walk away when every other girls are booked out and only a few are available. God knows it's happened to me a few times.

I don't usually book way ahead and usually enquire on the day. So if the girls I want to see are all booked out. I'd still take a punt and go for ones I've never seen before.

[holi_day]

OP's AR was well balanced I think. I was very happy with my session with Nozomi hence I did an AR. Even the most popular WL can't guarantee to please every single customer.

There were a couple of red flags that how OP's session did not go well. OP was at low energy level, both inexperienced hence no leads/initiatives, last day of work for Nozomi (I do hope she will come back)...

When I was new to punting I preferred experienced ladies who can take care of things. Now I have developed my own routine and preferences, I prefer leading the session with younger girls who are accommodating and responsive.

Better luck next time OP. Your AR was excellent!

[massage addict]

I personally think secret0's review was quite balanced and he put a lot of disclaimers.

We should encourage ARs on this forum both good and bad. People shouldn't feel scared to write a not so good AR about a girl so long as it's balanced and highlights the good and the bad which secret has done.

In regards to going with a girl that's on their last day. It's very common that when you're horny and fully prepared to punt. It's a bit too hard to just walk away when every other girls are booked out and only a few are available. God knows it's happened to me a few times.

I don't usually book way ahead and usually enquire on the day. So if the girls I want to see are all booked out. I'd still take a punt and go for ones I've never seen before.

I agree 100% all reviews are good reviews even the unfortunate ones. as far as when your horny and you get stuck with what's free at the time.... Fuck it still happens to me these days after 26 years of punting. hahaha That's why its punting!

I thought it was excellent review and look forward to more from Secret0

[Digby]

I’m of the opinion that a guy has to be “hot to trot” and ready for action the moment he steps into a pay for sex situation. It is a mindset and I suppose we all have at one time or another turned up with not enough motivation thinking magic will happen and when it doesn’t go like you expected you learn your lesson, move on and some punters write reviews about it.

If you’ve had a hectic day and are overworked you’re doing yourself, the WL and the place you visit a disservice. Generally speaking if you know your day is going to be busy and you’re either tired or lack motivation then message the shop with enough notice and reschedule. It’s not like they lost a customer as you’re still going.

[javlover]

I didn't think the review was harsh. OP presented both sides of the story (as opposed to one side only). Though I agree with what everyone else said about punting when you know you're tired - don't do it. You'll never get a good outcome when trying to achieve anything tired, not just punting.

[NC3]

Sorry about your FIRST experience... keep punching I say.
FWIW Ginza and Empire are 2 of the best places for this hobby in the world, IMHO. I am not saying that lightly. It is indeed the only place where management have asked me going into a session about preferences and then asking for a review on the way out.........

I could tell you horror stories from my days in Africa, Thailand, Singapore, Las Vegas, NYC, New Orleans, Budapest etc.... some of which are deathly dangerous or, in the case of Hungary, where only about 3 in 10 punts are any good. In those FL places one has to really research and work at it to get results (I used to love the chase)....... these days I like a sure thing and Ginza has many of those..... Then again, in Morocco, I had 11 girls in a 6 month period, all of whom I met socially, all of whom were fucking awesome... YMMV

The great thing about Ginza is that management are excellent and proactive, plus all the ground work is done for you because each lady is available in the one place... 25-30 a day at Empire and a bit less at Ginza Club.

I RECOMMEND...... that YOU tgo through all the profiles and pictures without reading reviews..... find the girls in the exact style you like....and only go with them to start. Maybe try one of the service oriented K ladies, Rebecca, Misha, Chaerin, Ari etc or if you want YOUNGER try K Choo or other performer... but once again find the exact style for you.

e.g. I like small busty girls, petite flat chested ladies, or if a lady is tall she either has to be huge busted (like a C Cici, C Alice etc) or have a model-esque body like K Julia.

The 1st 4 girls I did at Empire were all as I walked off the street "blind" as it were, with no booking or preconceived ideas as I hadn't found this forum yet... a guy off ISG had done a review AR on C Coco so I gave Ginza a go.... luckily I lucked my way into J Honoka 1st who to date of 70+ p4p lasses around the world is my favourite (ever)... in 35+ years of doing this... then Misa, then Chaerin and then others at Ginza mixed in with some Russians, Ukrainians, Moroccans and Aussies I've lucked into.

From my own research I then get a "playbook" of who to do next or if I really LUST for a girl, I go back to her...... see J Honoka, J Misa, K Chaerin, K Choo, J Omi, J Marie etc.. my only no repeat so far will be J Aona because we didn't gel, more due to my tastes then her ability.....

My current to do list in some type of order (ladies in Sydney at the moment) = V Erin, K Julia, C Alice, C Cici, V Honey, J Konan, K Tina etc etc... if they are working when I'm in Sydney then I book the 1st one I can on the quietest, earliest time possible... (say try a Monday late morning when many of the K girls are on)

Good luck young mate
So as we say YMMV but keep punching

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'''Ginza and Empire are 2 of the best places for this hobby in the world''' ... Yes, Ginza is unique, the management really listen the feedback from the customers, their rates are logical and fair, Ginza has the best rate structure, they read the 'financial market' so right [ average rate is 290$ [ 250$ to 330$ ] for an hour and for 30min. average rate is 180$] when other shops are minimum 300$ for an hour and also when you say 'Ginza service', is a measure of comparison. Is not easy to remain number one for so many years.

p.s. keep the rate [these days] under 300$ for an hour with this level of service is genius move.

[thepoonter]

I just skim through the thread but I agree with some of the recent comments. I think OP AR is fair as it outlines the pros and cons. We should encourage ARs, both good and bad and the punters will suss out if the ARs are honest or not.

[Jack-Jack]

You need full energy to fuck and shoot cum. Avoid booking if you will be so tired from the start. Next time you will enjoy more.

Agree on this ^^ or rather not see a girl whos already on her last day and has 'Inexperienced' in her profile as it kinda compounds everything into a bad experience when ur not feeling it for sexy time not to much ur first punt...
Esp if you are ready to fall asleep after a long hot shower

[Jack-Jack]

yes, what the fellas said, you need energy to enjoy it and perform well. also agree with belvaros, i've been around in diff countries and ginza is by far the best i've tried.
try book the girls earlier in the day (early afternoon), i have them either before lunch or few hours after lunch or before dinner (which is not possible for some people dep on schedule i know).
coffee also helps (for me anyway) if you're doing an early session. good luck and have fun!

Agree on this ^^ or rather not see a girl whos already on her last day and has 'Inexperienced' in her profile as it kinda compounds everything into a bad experience when ur not feeling it for sexy time not to much ur first punt...
Esp if you are ready to fall asleep after a long hot shower

[Jack-Jack]

Hi Jack,

Sorry, I get that you feel defensive about the girls, and to be honest, I would feel the same way too (reading your post about reception/girls telling you about that customer being violent made me angry and made me feel empathetic for and defensive of the girls too, even if I haven't even met them yet). But I still feel the service she provided warranted the score I gave.

It wasn't just the website I went off. Despite knowing the last day variation, and her status as 'inexperienced', for the week before, I've been reading all the reviews for the Ginza girls (and I read all your posts multiple times), and those reviews also factored into making the booking. While the website says "inexperienced", the punters (including yourself) say she is 'service oriented' and provide service way above all the other J girls. I get there's no universal punter's definition of 'inexperienced', but if everyone (including yourself) is saying she provides some level of service, and I receive service that doesn't match (or come close), should I not be saying I didn't receive that level of service? And is that the same with other girls who are labelled 'inexperienced' but have reviews dating back over a year?
Yes, I did put in that I was tired, and while that did factor a lot into it, I would be complaining too if I wasn't tired and she provided the same service she did that day. And even in my state, I felt like I was doing most of the work to make it enjoyable for the both of us.
Yes, I took the gamble knowing it was her last day, but should I (and others) not say anything if it feels like a girl is phoning it in on her last day? As customers, should we all just spend money on substandard service and just take it on the chin?

Yes, I'm learning all this as someone completely new, so sorry I don't know absolutely everything right from the start (even with all the reading I've done of everyone else's completely differing experiences), and definitely YMMV factors in a lot. I think she is a sweet girl, and genuinely wish her the best, but as a customer, I don't think I received a good level of service, based on the expectations set by others and regardless of my own state at the time.

I swear, I'm not trying to attack you (and definitely not her), nor am I trying to start an argument (I know all the above might seem like it, but I'm really asking those in good faith), but I have detailed all the mitigating factors and titled my post as unfortunate events for a reason, a lot of things contributed to what happened, but despite all that, if you remove it all - hell, remove me from that - if some other punter received the same level of service, they would be complaining too.

Anyway, I do hope to return with better news from my next punt, and look forward to more of your reviews.

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Thanks for the reply mate. Honestly i was not expecting this AR and my comments to blow up like that LOL

First off all (and FWIW) - i'm not trying to have a go at you or attack you either as i did specifically mention " i acknowledge you put heaps and heaps of disclaimers and even note your performance coming down to possibly being tired"

I am all for honest ARs good or bad and not trying to deter you from this or like discourage dishonest ARs from anyone - just putting that out that to clear the air

I was more curious what made her service so bad to warrant such a score i.e she refused you pounding deep on her or put her legs up to prevent deep thrust
she refused diamond service like No CIM or no DATY or no shower BBBJ
Or restrict touching her boobs and only LFK no DFK etc etc 5/10 for service sounds like a horrible experience but seems like she did all things diamond and tried her best to get you hard?

I am 99% sure she will be back so if there's something that was off with her service i may avoid her when she does a return stint as so much talent happening right now

I am NOT trying to be some white knight for Nozomi as their are other positive reviews on her here anyway so maybe ur experience just came down to YMMV unfortunately?

As i said "Better luck next time and i think you are right go for the K Queens... tried tested and well reviewed ones" or even some of the C girls that are good ones out there like C Alice C Cindy who will blow ur brains fucking

I do wish you well in ur punting journey and happy to recommend top girls but yea like others have said Ginza have heaps of talent on both rosters - so hopefully you have better luck next time and have a good experience

FWIW - there are girls i would not see or go near .... not even if someone paid for my punt i mean some have telling signs like Nazuna
The fact that reception warded you off from Nazuna but not Nozomi also shows that reception are honest with feedback and they prob vouch for Nozomi feedback > Nazuna?

I'm just saying... set your expectations and use that to filter and scan girls to increase your chance for a good time e.g. Nozomi already has "Limited English" which for most knows is pretty much little to no english.
So if you are looking to chat with the girl and connect on that front expect to use lots of google translate - just as an example

Anyways you do you bro - at the end of the day its YOUR AR and of course you are entitled to your scores esp on service even if it is YMMV

And you quite rightly did call out all the pros and cons in what others have said is a balanced review. lmaoo at the comment you read all my ARs - i feel flattered
I'm not trying to attack you (and definitely not her), nor am I trying to start an argument either...

i do occasionally do bad or not so good ARs too if the girl doesn't match profile or feel that the service was bad but this is normally quite rare as i am so selective with whom i see

What i will say as a tip is better luck with your next punt; hopefully its a much more memorable one and you walk out drained and limp from the session with the girl
Chalk it down as a L and solider on and better luck with next punt -- FWIW K Ari K Zoe and K IU all dont have no korean all provide top service and well reviewed maybe give them a shot

But since you have been doing you research i am sure you are already well aware of these K Girls

"Noob tip" - embrace the diamond services and dont shower alone, shower together is often good for some sexy time and prequel for what's to come plus get to chat her up and feel her body not to mention the shower bbbj ����

"Noob tip" nothing wrong with being tired and still going to punt but when i am tired i'll go see a super star or an experienced girl where i know i can be a starfish and dont set myself up for failure and have a dud experience
plenty plenty of ARs on here who some of these superstars are ...

Happy punting peace out

[Jack-Jack]

One should limit criticism of girl if tired and limp

^^ ahhahahahaha yea....

[BigDTPSE]

Jack jack the valiant punting knight, protector of whores, disputer of negative reviews and cleaner of Ginzas bathrooms and toilets.

hahah this made me chuckle. I can see both sides on this though and scores don't mean anything IMO cuz a 7 or 8 from X is not the same as 7 or 8 from Y.
we all have diff preferences and scores lol. that's why in my ARs I don't really score and just write down my exp and let the reader score it for themselves.

[Jack-Jack]

Jack jack the valiant punting knight, protector of whores, disputer of negative reviews and cleaner of Ginzas bathrooms and toilets.

oh look the troll has returned for some entertainment - yay time for some fun xD

"Disputer of negative reviews"?? Examples? which was the last AR besides this one for J Nozomi? hmmm

cleaner for Ginza.... yea bro I am there cleaning day and night and rub goat milk all over my body and?

Are you still lurking and just talking shit like this forum is reddit or you actually go see girls - still waiting for u to break ur ginza virginity

you seem to have searched the shop entrance so you know how to get there...
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?132932-Want-to-try-out-Ginza&p=3120700&viewfull=1#post3120700

I'd rather be a punting Knight that do the shit u get up to mate.....

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?134019-Pregnant-Girls&p=3152407&viewfull=1#post3152407

you sir defs have an acquired taste to say the very least...
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?134064-Sisi-Mature-Escort-Blacktown-Area-Intel&p=3151853&viewfull=1#post3151853

Your comments in that post above "Looks like a fat ass ready to be pounded hard.
Bend her over, close your eyes, hold your breath and go to town."

this clearly shows ur character not only rough fucking girls and treating them like shit but an absolute ass of a misogynist calling these girls whores

[Jack-Jack]

hahah this made me chuckle. I can see both sides on this though and scores don't mean anything IMO cuz a 7 or 8 from X is not the same as 7 or 8 from Y.
we all have diff preferences and scores lol. that's why in my ARs I don't really score and just write down my exp and let the reader score it for themselves.

maybe i should start doing this.... lol

i pretty much give the same scores i give to reception as i post here to be transparent and write the sesh details and photos to beef it up

but yea maybe i should stop scoring girls ...

[Jack-Jack]

FWIW....... i do bad ARs where its warranted...

and i think honest feedback should always be given to help Ginza improve and maintain their quality....

Just look at J Tomo
Right after my session they changed her profile stats for her boobs cos i said it was way off and her service being meh...
They dropped her price same day only to eventually fire her

and my AR for K Mia - her price dropped on the same day from $330 to $320

I have had bad apples in the bad and thats just the game of punting ....

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?134296-J-Miley-Made-JACK-Smiley-Smiley-Snow-White-Skin-(Pls-Be-Gentle)-Loves-DFK

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?132934-J-Cherry-JACKs-new-baby-best-face-of-2024-Her-face-with-that-pacifier%85

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?127225-J-IWA-Pretty-BUT-Basic-AF%85felt-like-Mini-Jack-was-a-Chuppa-Chupp-in-her-mouth

I've been punting for a while and have my fair share of duds when i go TOFTT......... - thats simply the game of punting whats more important is the shop taking on the feedback

[BigDTPSE]

maybe i should start doing this.... lol

i pretty much give the same scores i give to reception as i post here to be transparent and write the sesh details and photos to beef it up

but yea maybe i should stop scoring girls ...

yea that's the thing, your ARs were really helpful to me but i ignored all your scores (and everyone else's for that matter) cuz our preferences are not the same and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I just read what's written in the AR about the girl and the experience and come up with my own score in my head relative to my preferences lol.
I think this worked well for me because all the girls I saw I had a great experience with (Alice, Misha, Marie/Hotaru and SIA) and the punters reviews (yours included helped me decide to pick these girls out of the hundreds of possible options in syd lol).

[Jack-Jack]

yea that's the thing, your ARs were really helpful to me but i ignored all your scores (and everyone else's for that matter) cuz our preferences are not the same and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I just read what's written in the AR about the girl and the experience and come up with my own score in my head relative to my preferences lol.
I think this worked well for me because all the girls I saw I had a great experience with (Alice, Misha, Marie/Hotaru and SIA) and the punters reviews (yours included helped me decide to pick these girls out of the hundreds of possible options in syd lol).

You're welcome! xD

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[belvaros]

Meant to be a forum about pussy pounding... not a combative argument every thread.

YMMV

IMHO