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faruk
25-10-2024, 08:32 AM
I guess it depends how popular the girl is, but in general how much does one regular customer mean to a WL?

Assuming the regular sees her once or twice a week for an hour each time, does losing that regular mean much to her or does that spot get filled up easily with a random walk in?

Bigleaf
25-10-2024, 08:49 AM
It will depend on the girl. They're human after all and you can form genuine meaningful relationships with them. Not all of them see you as a source of money.

The same applies to the customer. Some may see the girl as nothing but meat and relief and others as human.

mn69
25-10-2024, 08:59 AM
I guess it depends how popular the girl is, but in general how much does one regular customer mean to a WL?

Assuming the regular sees her once or twice a week for an hour each time, does losing that regular mean much to her or does that spot get filled up easily with a random walk in?

Unless the customer is a difficult or stalker type that she does not want to see. A regular customer can mean alot to a WL. And very invaluable. Walk-in's will come and go. May see her 2-3 times at most. Then move on. Its rare of WL's to have a long term regular customers.

Most of her regular guaranteed income will come from her regular customer. When its quiet and not much business. A regular customer could be her saving grace.

Zoobender
25-10-2024, 09:00 AM
I think regulars only help girls who aren't already booked out. Ie Kayla at Ginza probaly doesn't care as much about her regulars because she is booked out anyway.

I get messages from girls when they don't have bookings, hey baby I miss you want to come in today? Etc. They probably sending to all the guys in their phone to drum up business.


Usually when they start they need the regulars more and will give out number or provide extra services for no charge. Then they smarten up. If you aren't to demanding or pushy the girls like you. You are basically easy prey for them and an easy day's work.

mn69
25-10-2024, 09:17 AM
I think regulars only help girls who aren't already booked out. Ie Kayla at Ginza probaly doesn't care as much about her regulars because she is booked out anyway

The Covid-19 era really tested how important customers are to any WL's.

I bet she cared about her regulars then.

Candy1234
25-10-2024, 10:00 AM
Just like any business, regulars are cash cows, definitely easier for the girl to plan her days and finance. I’ve once or twice a regular too, to the point the girl expect me to be there that day on that time or she be texting, wassup? Are you ok? Let me know so I can book someone else in. Damn you B#%^*, how dare you cheat on me on my day and time with another punter!!! 😝

All about the money, I think no girl wants to be in this kind of job, well at least 99.91% of them are not there to build a relationship with a bunch of f$&@ up dudes. Yes I guess you can build some connection and she knows what you like, all of the bla bla, but after that many times it just feels like going through the motions.

11Bravo
25-10-2024, 10:25 AM
Smart providers know a regular is money in the bank, and if she changes offices, that client list will move with her, an asset both for her and the new shop (which a smart shop will also appreciate). Sure, it's BUSINESS. We've all gotten that "Hi, long time, no see, I miss you" message (translation: business is slow, I'm sitting here doing nothing, bring your wallet). Given the Asian work ethic, not earning during work hours is anathema for them. Walk-ins are problematic and unknown, a regular is just that, dependable.

Even for the shop/girl where she's fully booked all the time, and you're just the next widget in a long line of widgets on the assembly line to be stamped, processed, polished, finished, out the door, even then, there is something to be said for a regular: a KNOWN quantity. She can relax, not in the form of delivering less, but just relax as in letting a bit of her guard down. She knows you, just as you know her. And you both don't have to start from zero. That's just that little bit of less stress. That DOES count.

Jack-Jack
25-10-2024, 11:10 AM
A lot of girls like regulars because they’re a known quantity and less stressful than just seeing guys they don’t know yet and have to work out and see if they’re arseholes or not.

Yeaaa this is so true!! Esp if you click with the regular it really takes ymmv to the next notch

Jack-Jack
25-10-2024, 11:14 AM
@OP

It depends what you are after and what your are seeking

Do you mean emotionally or financially?

Emotionally wise if you’re her regular and both happy with each other ofc she will treat you extra special to a first time and sex becomes more wild and spontaneous than ticking the box for diamond service for her

It may also have benefits where she’ll tell you in advance what days she’s working etc or which girls she likes and would do a doable with for you that’s not on the menu

You may also click with her so well that you hang out side the shop but that’s another topic….

Financially if the girl is popular enough losing a few regulars won’t mean anything to her there are girls that get booked out so walkins won’t even have a chance to ever see them in lineup lol

tonystark
25-10-2024, 11:16 AM
WL also need to be competitive. If they don't have a good service mindset, they won't make money. I only take phone numbers from WL who demonstrate a strong service mindset!

Jack-Jack
25-10-2024, 11:17 AM
I think regulars only help girls who aren't already booked out. Ie Kayla at Ginza probaly doesn't care as much about her regulars because she is booked out anyway.

I get messages from girls when they don't have bookings, hey baby I miss you want to come in today? Etc. They probably sending to all the guys in their phone to drum up business.


Usually when they start they need the regulars more and will give out number or provide extra services for no charge. Then they smarten up. If you aren't to demanding or pushy the girls like you. You are basically easy prey for them and an easy day's work.

Yea I had this as well … exchanged contacts with the girl but after a few visits and got bored and moved on she still text me I miss you you wanna come see me today?

I working Thurs hope to see you love you

I see that as too hustler vibe and just wants my money not my dick

If you’re gonna hustle me at least make the effort to go how you been?
Busy, haven’t seen you at shop for while or I miss you but sounds more genuine…. You can tell by some messages it’s copy paste and send it as a blast to all her contacts….

mn69
25-10-2024, 11:54 AM
Financially if the girl is popular enough losing a few regulars won’t mean anything to her there are girls that get booked out so walkins won’t even have a chance to ever see them in lineup lol

I think we need another Covid-19 pandemic to humble some of the popular girls 555

They forget about how much they need regulars.

During a pandemic where theres no customers, no income. But they have to pay rent, buy food and ongoing bills/debt to pay should remind them how important their regular customers are...

11Bravo
25-10-2024, 12:31 PM
I think we need another Covid-19 pandemic to humble some of the popular girls 555

They forget about how much they need regulars.
In that case, perhaps you're just a regular to her...

Two sides, same coin: each is replaceable, both punter and provider...

mn69
25-10-2024, 12:49 PM
In that case, perhaps you're just a regular to her...

Two sides, same coin: each is replaceable, both punter and provider...

I'm a businessman. Client retention and customer relationship is number 1 for me.

If you treat all your customers as a number and replaceable, you will soon face bankruptcy in any industry

11Bravo
25-10-2024, 01:08 PM
I'm a businessman. Client retention and customer relationship is number 1 for me.

If you treat all your customers as a number and replaceable, you will soon face bankruptcy in any industry

True, but everyone knows that airlines board first class and business class first, even offering them a drink, while economy... And casinos, those whales will be getting to the head of the line... If business is booming, those sales tend to disappear, well, until the next recession. Myself, I'll pass on recessions, those cut into MY revenue (and I do have empathy for those who REALLY suffer during one, but that's just me). You know what they say, "Be careful what you wish for..."

And everyone is replaceable. Might be difficult, but... certainly if you're a businessman, you understand that. If not, let me know, I'll be your supplier and quickly quadruple the prices or organize your staff to strike...

roooter
25-10-2024, 01:12 PM
As much as a pineapple or granny smith
It a business tx.

Zoobender
25-10-2024, 01:32 PM
The Covid-19 era really tested how important customers are to any WL's.

I bet she cared about her regulars then.

Yep this is a good point. Covid they really loved their regulars. I remember fucking my regulars mouth in to next week at her private incall. She used to work at a shop but during covid went private. Wild night.

mn69
25-10-2024, 01:33 PM
True, but everyone knows that airlines board first class and business class first, even offering them a drink, while economy... And casinos, those whales will be getting to the head of the line... If business is booming, those sales tend to disappear, well, until the next recession. Myself, I'll pass on recessions, those cut into MY revenue (and I do have empathy for those who REALLY suffer during one, but that's just me). You know what they say, "Be careful what you wish for..."

And everyone is replaceable. Might be difficult, but... certainly if you're a businessman, you understand that. If not, let me know, I'll be your supplier and quickly quadruple the prices...

Large companies like Airlines and Casino's can afford to do that, while business is booming. But a WL is one person, a contractor. Hardly even a considered "small business". So retaining as much regulars as possible should be in her best interest, if she was business savvy.

But even Airlines and Casino's bent at the knee's during the wrath of Covid-19 and had to rely on the Government to get through. This is how important customers are.

Yeh for sure. Everyone is replaceable. I'm not saying have one-itis.

Of course some things go South, but retaining and maintaining a good relationship with as many customers as possible is ideal. Were not salary-men in business, so every customer counts.

Reputation is important too. We underestimate how much influence and power a review has over the livelihood of a WL

11Bravo
25-10-2024, 02:06 PM
Large companies like Airlines and Casino's can afford to do that, while business is booming. But a WL is one person, a contractor. Hardly even a considered "small business". So retaining as much regulars as possible should be in her best interest, if she was business savvy.

But even Airlines and Casino's bent at the knee's during the wrath of Covid-19 and had to rely on the Government to get through. This is how important customers are.

Yeh for sure. Everyone is replaceable. I'm not saying have one-itis.

Of course some things go South, but retaining and maintaining a good relationship with as many customers as possible is ideal. Were not salary-men in business, so every customer counts.Definitely they are business savvy. One I knew, my best mate and I both agreed, but for the country of birth, in US, Europe, etc., she'd be the CEO of a mid-size company. They are very sharp at weighing pros and cons...

Contractors, I've worked with and dealt with many. If one was too busy, or raised his prices too much, I just wished him good luck and hired another. Maybe he'd take another gig with us, maybe he wouldn't. No ill will. It's just business. Nothing wrong in having confidence in your own marketability.

For punting contractors, I'm glad she's successful. If nothing else, just that slight shove for me to go out and scout. No harm, no foul. Life moves on, and change is inevitable. Just ask the dinosaurs...

BTW: I and they agree about every customer counting. I'm under no illusion as to exactly WHY they have my contact number in their phones, and it's not solely for my smile.


Reputation is important too. We underestimate how much influence and power a review has over the livelihood of a WL
On this we agree, and why, unless a rip-off, I'm not so inclined to write a bad review. Don't want to break any rice-bowls unnecessarily. And Rep cuts BOTH ways...

94wreckers
25-10-2024, 04:18 PM
sometimes the most beautiful ML is in a shop that is dead.... so they only get 3 to 4 customers per day.... so when you are a regular to that girl, it definitely means alot to them.

That's happened to me a couple times. Its great feeling, have cute little ML telling you that you are the only reason she came into work that day HAHA

Revenant
26-10-2024, 07:26 AM
WL also need to be competitive. If they don't have a good service mindset, they won't make money. I only take phone numbers from WL who demonstrate a strong service mindset!

How often do you sit in a waiting room waiting for the girls to walk in and present? Some have an absolutely bland expression on their face like they don’t want to be there. Maybe those have had no instruction on initial presentation? No smile, no eye contact and no talk. With those kinda vibes how are you meant to pick them? Of course once you’ve established your regulars it’s a different matter but sometimes on spec your in the area and drive by and pay a visit. I get numbers only if I want to go further than a punt. For example if they mention they’ve got a baby, kid or are separated then it’s not happening. I don’t know why but some do this on the first session and I’ll still see them for a regular punt but I’ll never ask for a number.

11Bravo
26-10-2024, 03:00 PM
How often do you sit in a waiting room waiting for the girls to walk in and present? Some have an absolutely bland expression on their face like they don’t want to be there. Maybe those have had no instruction on initial presentation? No smile, no eye contact and no talk.
Punting 101: if she's not making eye contact, smiling (that is speaking)...and yes, it IS personal. Read the room, HARD PASS. QED.

ColesBag
26-10-2024, 03:32 PM
I think we need another Covid-19 pandemic .

No we fucking don't.

Jack-Jack
26-10-2024, 10:18 PM
I think we need another Covid-19 pandemic to humble some of the popular girls 555

They forget about how much they need regulars.

During a pandemic where theres no customers, no income. But they have to pay rent, buy food and ongoing bills/debt to pay should remind them how important their regular customers are...

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lmaoooooooooooooo

i think this is kinda reflected in service hence why some of the prettier girls exhibit JPS KPS and CPS

if the customers and stuff fall down and they are less busy then they better lift their game lol

Jack-Jack
26-10-2024, 10:21 PM
Yep this is a good point. Covid they really loved their regulars. I remember fucking my regulars mouth in to next week at her private incall. She used to work at a shop but during covid went private. Wild night.

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa good point in those days you're like why i never got so many messages from my regular.

Orehcac
26-10-2024, 10:26 PM
Smart providers know a regular is money in the bank, and if she changes offices, that client list will move with her, an asset both for her and the new shop (which a smart shop will also appreciate). Sure, it's BUSINESS. We've all gotten that "Hi, long time, no see, I miss you" message (translation: business is slow, I'm sitting here doing nothing, bring your wallet). Given the Asian work ethic, not earning during work hours is anathema for them. Walk-ins are problematic and unknown, a regular is just that, dependable.

Even for the shop/girl where she's fully booked all the time, and you're just the next widget in a long line of widgets on the assembly line to be stamped, processed, polished, finished, out the door, even then, there is something to be said for a regular: a KNOWN quantity. She can relax, not in the form of delivering less, but just relax as in letting a bit of her guard down. She knows you, just as you know her. And you both don't have to start from zero. That's just that little bit of less stress. That DOES count.

Perfectly worded. Spot on

Niceguy11
26-10-2024, 10:33 PM
A lot of girls like regulars because they’re a known quantity and less stressful than just seeing guys they don’t know yet and have to work out and see if they’re arseholes or not.

Yeah spot on bro. For the WL, its much easier seeing a regular. But yeah, spot on 100%.

Joun23
27-10-2024, 09:05 AM
It's all about money for WLs, securing good source of their income, northing more than that. I usually have a couple of regulars but never give out my number as I am the one holding all the cards and decide when and how frequently to see them. I even tell them I see other girls too to give them a clear message that I'm not a pushover to them.
A few years ago, one of my regulars asked me to see her only while she was working in Sydney. So I asked her back that she should also see me only. She held back and said she would think about it, but we know it never happens haha.

Double_Adapter
27-10-2024, 09:55 AM
What a load of fucken pretentious business horse shit, y'all trying to analyse or solve a sex workers modus operandi. It was these chicks that invented the business models we see today. All this horse shit about business acumen, operational rhythms, navigating strong headwinds, marketing, branding, PR, B2B, GRC, BCP, DR, EHS, NPS ad-nauseam.....WLs literally invented all those fucken concepts and acronyms and the corporate world took them as their own.

A chicks BCP plan is the contacts on her phone, her DR plan is an old bald fat farang, B2B is body-2-body not fucken biz-2 biz, and she don't need no fucken NPS ratings or VOC campaigns to get a gauge on how popular she is as punting forums and AR s take care of all that shit.

When a chick says 'baby, when you come over, I give you good time'
The corporate world says 'It might be constructive to have a face-to-face ideation session where we can whiteboard potential synergies for a win-win outcome'

So next time you hear any of these phrases used in a corporate setting know that it originated in a brothel or sleezy rub 'n tug
- he got the arse
- got bent over backwards
- you're just a number
- cash is king
- got screwed over
- she's vibing (ie using vibrators)
- deep dive
- drill down
- work hard-play hard
- clock watcher
- flesh out
- think outside the box
- touchpoints
- B2B, B2C etc

They don't say 'prostitution is the oldest profession' in the world for nothing.

11Bravo
27-10-2024, 10:48 AM
It's all about money for WLs, securing good source of their income, northing more than that. I usually have a couple of regulars but never give out my number as I am the one holding all the cards and decide when and how frequently to see them. I even tell them I see other girls too to give them a clear message that I'm not a pushover to them. Wow... You ARE hardcore. You really know to keep them in their place. Sure there are many broken hearts, tears shed, waiting in the break room, just waiting for your call... Meanwhile, she's "Next..."

For me, punting is not zero-sum.


A few years ago, one of my regulars asked me to see her only while she was working in SydneyI think that's a very reasonable request. Certainly she shouldn't expect a client to visit her in Brisbane, Perth...

Ah, the English language:love:. Allows such precision... :burn:

Revenant
27-10-2024, 11:04 AM
Punting 101: if she's not making eye contact, smiling (that is speaking)...and yes, it IS personal. Read the room, HARD PASS. QED.

I do read the room and that’s why I don’t select those girls because I read the punt as being lousy. Like a horse a dog or a car, you know just by looking what’s good if you’ve been around.

11Bravo
27-10-2024, 11:34 AM
I do read the room and that’s why I don’t select those girls because I read the punt as being lousy. Like a horse a dog or a car, you know just by looking what’s good if you’ve been around.

Most definitely, agreed; like I said, HARD PASS. My point was, the cold shoulder is not due to a lack of training. Experience works both ways. She too has been around. Like I usually say, 2 sides, same coin. Some we pass over, some they pass over. Guess some just can't accept that they are not Grade-A Prime in EVERYONE'S eyes. It is personal.

DayMan69
27-10-2024, 01:28 PM
Becoming a regular and having a regular makes enormous sense for both sides of this particular coin. When you click and make the jump to regular status, each punt becomes, well, less of a punt and the pleasures become more nuanced and more exotic in my experience. Like a good relationship, except you happily pull on your pants after an hour and walk out the door.

We know what we're getting, what she'll do and what she likes/doesn't like.

She knows you as someone she can somewhat trust, you'll not rip her off, be too rough or disrespectful.

Less stress all round.

JJBlows
27-10-2024, 05:07 PM
When she jumps on birth control for you after you ask her to because you don't like pulling out

You might mean something to her

Kiryu0
28-10-2024, 09:34 AM
When she jumps on birth control for you after you ask her to because you don't like pulling out

You might mean something to her

Damn, that's hot XD

1inchguy
28-10-2024, 03:33 PM
How often do you sit in a waiting room waiting for the girls to walk in and present? Some have an absolutely bland expression on their face like they don’t want to be there. Maybe those have had no instruction on initial presentation? No smile, no eye contact and no talk. With those kinda vibes how are you meant to pick them? Of course once you’ve established your regulars it’s a different matter but sometimes on spec your in the area and drive by and pay a visit. I get numbers only if I want to go further than a punt. For example if they mention they’ve got a baby, kid or are separated then it’s not happening. I don’t know why but some do this on the first session and I’ll still see them for a regular punt but I’ll never ask for a number.

Last year I picked a viet girl from a lineup. It's not even end of the day but she was annoyed she got picked. Legit saw her throw a pillow on the bed from frustration. I should have switched girls after seeing that. .
But I end up doing the deed with her anyway and afterward she was balls enough to ask for my phone number and wanted to see me again. Yeah no thanks. .

mn69
29-10-2024, 09:11 AM
When she jumps on birth control for you after you ask her to because you don't like pulling out

You might mean something to her

Even better. If she trusts you enough to go BB and pull out, even if she is not on birth control

@JJ Blows. Clear your DM inbox when you get time.