Date with ML after first visit

[dante97]

okay lads, i went to a MP for the first time and after my first visit with fs i asked for the digits and we are going to a bar for a night out.
is she going to demand P if things hit off well and land at a place after?
also if we do does she expect me to get a hotel or something?
can i ask to go to hers?
she's 22 and said she has no friends so im thinking the date is genuine?
if you guys want more information on her let me know, shes very friendly, bubbly :)
this is happening on the 30/10/24 so im kinda freaked out as its my first time

[Akoop]

I went on a few dinner dates with a private girl post punt.

So it wasn't like yours where it was planned in advance, it was more, we'd finish up then go get ramen/a meal and walk around.
She was Japanese and seemed lonely as well, because even before we started doing the dinners, if she didn't have a booking after me, she'd always just let me stay longer and we'd just talk and stuff. We got along really well. She even remembered my birthday and got me a present, a book about Japanese yokai cause I said a few times I like them. I basically started catching feels.

Then covid hit and she went back to Japan.

So it's not entirely weird or out there. Massage girls and private girls are human, and they can and do form human connections with some of their clients. They probably try and ensure they don't, that they keep business and personal separate, but things happen.

If you are really unsure if she's just trying to play you for $$$ you can try and respectfully set the boundaries before hand, but be aware this might still offend her and drive her away. (moot point as I realised now that you are probably on the date now)

[dante97]

I’m actually waiting to pick her up now, picking her up from another spot that she works as ML lol will update how it goes

[Ghost of BarneyRubble]

okay lads, i went to a MP for the first time and after my first visit with fs i asked for the digits and we are going to a bar for a night out.
is she going to demand P if things hit off well and land at a place after?
also if we do does she expect me to get a hotel or something?
can i ask to go to hers?
she's 22 and said she has no friends so im thinking the date is genuine?
if you guys want more information on her let me know, shes very friendly, bubbly :)
this is happening on the 30/10/24 so im kinda freaked out as its my first time
MP or ML?
Big difference

What suburb is the shop in? More info on her?

22 is usually older.

As for what now, up to you.
if you just meet at a bar, have an excuse in case she triggers an alarm.
If things go well, you will figure out where you want to escalate.
Probably best to just assess her out of shop and leave with a boner

[VFlowers]

Well, while there are record immigration numbers, with the government importing as much of the third world as they can get away with, I always hear from MLs how much they would like to stay in Australia, but how difficult it was for them to obtain a permanent visa.
So there is that...
But enjoy your date, and don't listen to an old cynic like myself...

[CumShot]

We all look forward to hearing how your evening went.

I'm hoping your set the standard as no pay.

Last year I caught up offsite with a ML from a Brisbane shop. I think I wrote about it here somewhere. On her day off we had some lunch. Afterwards back to her apartment in Spring Hill. It was her living place with another girl. After that she went back to Sydney and we lost contact. No money changed hands outside the 'formal' shop visit.

[womble]

Yes, I'll be interested as well.

I had a relationship with a private ML a few years ago. Like Akoop I started coming at the end of her shift and stay for a few hours talking. One day she texted me and asked me for lunch. I accepted and learned it was her birthday, so brought along flowers and a card. She was really touched. Took her to a restaurant and walked her home; didn't go inside afterwards, just a peck on the cheek and have a nice afternoon, just like a first date (which it was). Lot of very pleasant memories with her. Lovely girl.

[dante97]

So we had about 3 bottles of soju, convos went really well.

she lives with one other person in the valley but her roommate only comes home like once a week for 2-3 hours at a time.

Didn’t mention anything about payment just treated it as a date night out, she even paid for some of the drinks lol

She said she was drunk and I asked if we should go home and she said yes, just acted natural got her address drove to her place and went straight to business.

I’m seeing her again tonight at her place, might have found a gem.

[dante97]

After we finished up I put my clothes on and she got kinda pissed I was trying to leave, I ended up staying the night and did multiple rounds with her.

In that situation would you guys “simp” and stay the night cause she wanted you too.

Or just leave and not give a damn?

[harry444]

Very nice Womble. I think we need to remember these girls are actually human, with human emotions.

[Robstorie44]

I see that there is no update from dante97 yet.
Maybe he's still on the date???
Or catching up on sleep?
Or too much of a gentleman to share.....

[thunder545454]

Dated 3 different ones, all 3 ended the similar, 2 of them eventually pestering for help aka money even though they were earning mid 6 figures, then all 3 cheated for money, but they still wanted me for all benefits of a boyfriend/relationship.

Doesn't matter what you do or how you show up for them they will not care, they are morally bankrupt, even if you help them with money, they will still go work behind your back.

These days if I get asked for number I give it, I take them out have fun, but after a while when they ask for anything more serious, I say sorry just having fun, I don't take people seriously who sell their body and soul for a living, end of.

Don't get involved with them no matter how sexy and wild they are trust me ive been down the well 3 times and tried so so hard and they are just simply broken.

[dante97]

Dated 3 different ones, all 3 ended the similar, 2 of them eventually pestering for help aka money even though they were earning mid 6 figures, then all 3 cheated for money, but they still wanted me for all benefits of a boyfriend/relationship.

Doesn't matter what you do or how you show up for them they will not care, they are morally bankrupt, even if you help them with money, they will still go work behind your back.

These days if I get asked for number I give it, I take them out have fun, but after a while when they ask for anything more serious, I say sorry just having fun, I don't take people seriously who sell their body and soul for a living, end of.

Don't get involved with them no matter how sexy and wild they are trust me ive been down the well 3 times and tried so so hard and they are just simply broken.

Damn that’s rough bro, yeah I know not to let my emotions take over since the background story is so messed up, but that was a good reminder because apart of me wants to help them but I know in the end the only one who loses is me

[Zag Dez]

I see that there is no update from dante97 yet.
Maybe he's still on the date???
Or catching up on sleep?
Or too much of a gentleman to share.....

Or woken up in a bath of ice and no kidneys


.... or had a hot shower and in the steam of the mirror appeared "Welcome to the AIDS club"



Urban legends from years gone by 🤣

[Holdan427]

Dated 3 different ones, all 3 ended the similar, 2 of them eventually pestering for help aka money even though they were earning mid 6 figures, then all 3 cheated for money, but they still wanted me for all benefits of a boyfriend/relationship.

Doesn't matter what you do or how you show up for them they will not care, they are morally bankrupt, even if you help them with money, they will still go work behind your back.

These days if I get asked for number I give it, I take them out have fun, but after a while when they ask for anything more serious, I say sorry just having fun, I don't take people seriously who sell their body and soul for a living, end of.

Don't get involved with them no matter how sexy and wild they are trust me ive been down the well 3 times and tried so so hard and they are just simply broken.

100% agree - I have had similar experience with 2ML's - money hungry kents. Lying, cheating, selfish pieces of human excrement. Not to be trusted EVER

[Nasu a]

I’ve had an experience of going out one night with a Thai private ML. Agree with above. Always lying, money hungry, never pay for their shit!

[Pdaddy]

There are great girls in this industry, and if you’re able to control your emotions, you can have a lot of fun with some of them.
The problem is most of these girls will be after your money, a visa, etc. They are in this industry for a number of reasons and falling in love is not one of them 😉

[dante97]

So I saw her again 2nd night in a row on 30/10/2024.

Picked her up, drove straight to her place, went straight to business, no payments no trying to chat her up, she was just down to do it.

She told me that if I need to leave for the night that I can and wants to be understanding and knows that I’d be more comfortable sleeping in my home, which is awesome because now I have no pressure of needing to stay the night or dip and go home.

She asked me if we were just sex toys to each other and I said yes. She said that she didn’t like that and wanted more.

I told her that these things aren’t exactly planned out and you have to go with the flow, get to know each other, go on coffee dates, hang out during the day etc.

She agreed and so I think I’m in this ‘situationship’ where I can always go to her place to do the deed, so long as I contribute to her emotional needs by spending time with her doing x y z.

She’s a very nice person and is genuine, she has thoughts of quitting the industry but money is always the main issue, I have no plans on simping for her and spending every dime on her and if any red flags come up I will know to cut it off.

I think for the meantime it’s okay for me to continue seeing her, occasionally taking her out on dates and continuing this exchange between us.

[Fitch]

It's a foolish thought (that's understatement) to get romantically involved with a working girl. Have fun. But at some stage if you don't cut it off, you're quite simply a fool.

[VFlowers]

It's a foolish thought (that's understatement) to get romantically involved with a working girl. Have fun. But at some stage if you don't cut it off, you're quite simply a fool.

While, as so often, there are many shades of grey, I tend to agree that a ML who does FS with a first time customer and immediately agrees to go out on a date, is not one I would target for an outside-of-business relationship.
Could of course be love at first sight...

[Doorman]

I think it can work but it's quite rare. You can sometimes tell when a girl is different and actually genuine, and prepared to make sacrifices.

But at the end of the day its just not worth pursuing in the first place based on the odds and all the emotional baggage.

[Billy Shakespeare]

Ah, dear interlocutor, to partake in the bounteous banquet that is the company of a lady fair is indeed a joy divine, a privilege bestowed by the very hand of Fate. To dine amidst the splendor of her grace is to savor the fruits of affection, where the heart doth revel and the spirit finds solace.

In her presence, the mundane doth transform to gold; every glance a treasure, every word a sonnet. To cherish such moments is to grasp the essence of love itself, where the fortress of womanhood stands not as a bastion to be stormed, but as a sanctuary to be honored and revered.

[Eric_li]

Dating a ML is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. If you can't even handle dating an ordinary woman in real life, what makes you think you can win over someone who deals with countless men every day?

Do you think you're rich, super handsome, or somehow incredibly special? It's like when an ML tells you, "I only kiss you," "I only BBBJ with you," or "I only go bare with you." The truth is, the way she treats you is exactly how she treats others. Stop fooling yourself.

If it's not for the money, do you really think they're doing it just to get screwed every day?

[Fitch]

Just think at the end of a hard day's work being smashed by up to 10 men a day, then it's your turn. True love ❤️

[Flipmeplz]

It can work. My partner of the last 5 yrs is a popular ml. I know what her day job entails and how much she dislikes it. We are happy together.

[Eric_li]

My buddy and I both hooked up with the same ML. She gave us the exact same compliments, praises, and even identical texts. Even in bed, she used the same lines word for word

[RLC]

Just enjoy it while it lasts. I always see these situations as making sure I maximise my VFM knowing that it will fizzle and 99% she has other guys aside from you. Get your share, have your fun then be ready to move on.

[SeeYouNextTime]

It can work. My partner of the last 5 yrs is a popular ml. I know what her day job entails and how much she dislikes it. We are happy together.

5 years is a long time to be working as an ML. Is the fact she dislikes it the reason why you can trust her? Surely being popular means she offers additional services.

[Flipmeplz]

5 years is a long time to be working as an ML. Is the fact she dislikes it the reason why you can trust her? Surely being popular means she offers additional services.

The fact that she dislikes it is not why I trust her. I wouldn't think any of the girls actually enjoy it really. Yes being popular I know what services are on offer and I realise there would be plenty of return customers. Just something you have to deal with being with a ml.