Bad punting days - regular closed/raided, refused service

[jandross45]

Earlier this week I went for a punt at one of my regulars, may beauty massage in enfield only to discover that it suddenly closed down. Furniture was dumped out the back, signs removed etc.. I later was told that it was raided with something to do with the local council, not surprised as they advertised their ladies as "students" but some didn't speaka word of English. Anyway the memories will live on...

However, I decided to give le soleil in croydon a fourth chance : first time I went to the place it had cops hanging around, second time I wasn't impressed with the small rooms that are actually a closest under a stairs and I went back a third time because a punter on this forum said it had a really nice room upstairs with a bed... it turned out to be a typical old inner westy mouldy smelling room, obviously bigger but no bed... wasn't feeling it..

Further, I decided to give this place another chance, the only girl available was a gorgeous thai called angel, before we discussed pricing she asked how big it was... I gave an approx size with my hands and she said too big, sorry and walked out. The owner was laughing and i wasn't in the mood anymore so left.

Then I went back a few days later and gave this place another chance stupidly, the only girl available was Abby.... she didn't look half as good/young as the photos they posted and didn't seem to speak English and left the room quickly before I asked how much her tips were going to be. The owner came back in and I told her that I wanted her for one hour with fs, she said no sorry and didnt elaborated further.... as I walked out I told her she is losing money, she replied that she doesn't care....

[Spectra]

A lot of workers come here on a student visa, that’s the in. Nothing wrong with that and as far as I know they are allowed to work a number of hours, 48 in a fortnight and full time during holidays if I remember correctly?

I’ve been to Le Soleil multiple times and never had an issue except a wait once because I’d simply forgotten to book. I was a walk in and I had to wait. Lesson learned on my behalf. My mistake. I know all about the shop and used pretty much every room except the one on ground floor out the back that sides along the walkway. Mimi’s. Different service offered there to what I was looking for so never ventured.

It’s my view they could turn the large room upstairs into two smaller ones with a simple divider facing the front street and even delete the kitchen which is upstairs too. I sat there when I was waiting that time and scoped it out. It’s way too big for something that’s not really used. Who needs a big kitchen? Know all about the stairwell room as my first experience was there and the girl was beautiful and super hot. It’s a pity I don’t remember a lot of their names as I’d have written reviews no doubt. The girls were alway sexy and accomodating, well for me they were.

Getting back to paying, my methodology is always to show a full wallet and make sure they see it. Then IF they’re interested they the MLs initiate it and let your money do the talking.

Just reread the last paragraph of your post, you cannot just front up and say I want FS to reception at a Massage shop. That is a big mistake and you’ll get brushed off. Try 219 the brothel on the other side of the station if you want to walk in and do that. It’s only 400m away, again though I advise booking first, though I’ve had some great experiences there too on just a walk in.

[hellozmane]

You must have a really poor appearance and/or hygiene if they're refusing to see you just like that.

[Orehcac]

Well look on the bright side mate at least you’ve got a big willy lol.

[11Bravo]

Earlier this week I went for a punt at one of my regulars, may beauty massage in enfield only to discover that it suddenly closed down. Furniture was dumped out the back, signs removed etc.. I later was told that it was raided with something to do with the local council, not surprised as they advertised their ladies as "students" but some didn't speaka word of English. Anyway the memories will live on...
Appreciate the intel on May's demise. Good shop, well run, mamasan cared. Shame. Based on off-shore, could be complaints from a competitor trying to put a good shop out of business. Disgruntled customer or ex-employee. Doubt it had anything to do with students, especially since most providers worked at most 2 days a week. Or maybe May's political contributions fell a bit short...?


Further, I decided to give this place another chance, the only girl available was a gorgeous thai called angel, before we discussed pricing she asked how big it was... I gave an approx size with my hands and she said too big, sorry and walked out. The owner was laughing and i wasn't in the mood anymore so left.In ALL my experience, many years, many lands, never been asked THAT. Methinks the question, or any question, was just an excuse for her to pass.


Then I went back a few days later and gave this place another chance stupidly, the only girl available was Abby.... she didn't look half as good/young as the photos they posted and didn't seem to speak English and left the room quickly before I asked how much her tips were going to be. The owner came back in and I told her that I wanted her for one hour with fs, she said no sorry and didnt elaborated further.... as I walked out I told her she is losing money, she replied that she doesn't care....

I'd suggest some serious self-evaluation if you've been turned down by 2 different providers. From previous posts sounds like you dress well, so perhaps it's attitude? Maybe each, when business was good (only girl available), figured THEY could do better with a bit of patience. And kudos to an owner who looks after her workers.

[yellow_sub]

Interesting to see that Thai girl ask that question. You must be very tall or…big?

Owners will never say they provide FS. You said it in your first paragraph, places get raids.

Plenty of other shops around, don’t get personal from rejections.

[Zimmerman]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why? And it's a massage shop, not everyone will be willing to do FS. If you want to do FS guaranteed go to a brothel...
And as someone pointed out above good for the mamasan to defend her shop

[faruk]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why?

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

[11Bravo]

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

Economics... same as she'll provide FS but won't DFK...

[GoldfishMan]

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

The girl is weird or is it the BF? Maybe he knows about her job, let's her continue doing it, and said "you can give blowjobs and let guys grope you, but you can't fuck them"?

[yellow_sub]

Economics... same as she'll provide FS but won't DFK...

Hahahah, lips are for boyfriend, everything else for money.

[yellow_sub]

The girl is weird or is it the BF? Maybe he knows about her job, let's her continue doing it, and said "you can give blowjobs and let guys grope you, but you can't fuck them"?

Spoke to a few ML. They have a way to lay out things so the BF will keep one eye shuts.

[11Bravo]

Hahahah, lips are for boyfriend, everything else for money.

And THAT is literally a true statement, heard from a WG.

[mn69]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why? And it's a massage shop, not everyone will be willing to do FS. If you want to do FS guaranteed go to a brothel...
And as someone pointed out above good for the mamasan to defend her shop

This is very common. In a nutshell....

Alot of Thai working girls have a Farang "boyfriend". He most likely knows about her job as they met while he was a customer (this is always how it starts)

The "boyfriend" is an old bald fat Farang who is just a walking ATM machine for her. She most likely has a real Thai BF/Husband back in Isaan/Thailand and a few kids/family members she is sending money back to...

[Itskens112]

A lot of workers come here on a student visa, that’s the in. Nothing wrong with that and as far as I know they are allowed to work a number of hours, 48 in a fortnight and full time during holidays if I remember correctly?

I’ve been to Le Soleil multiple times and never had an issue except a wait once because I’d simply forgotten to book. I was a walk in and I had to wait. Lesson learned on my behalf. My mistake. I know all about the shop and used pretty much every room except the one on ground floor out the back that sides along the walkway. Mimi’s. Different service offered there to what I was looking for so never ventured.

It’s my view they could turn the large room upstairs into two smaller ones with a simple divider facing the front street and even delete the kitchen which is upstairs too. I sat there when I was waiting that time and scoped it out. It’s way too big for something that’s not really used. Who needs a big kitchen? Know all about the stairwell room as my first experience was there and the girl was beautiful and super hot. It’s a pity I don’t remember a lot of their names as I’d have written reviews no doubt. The girls were alway sexy and accomodating, well for me they were.

Getting back to paying, my methodology is always to show a full wallet and make sure they see it. Then IF they’re interested they the MLs initiate it and let your money do the talking.

Just reread the last paragraph of your post, you cannot just front up and say I want FS to reception at a Massage shop. That is a big mistake and you’ll get brushed off. Try 219 the brothel on the other side of the station if you want to walk in and do that. It’s only 400m away, again though I advise booking first, though I’ve had some great experiences there too on just a walk in.

219 still up and running?

[Spectra]

219 still up and running?

After the fire next door in January this year? It was closed for a while, the fumes from a hundred plus electric bikes going up was bad, the smoke covered a whole block. A lot of stuff was thrown out, mattresses etc. I saw the mamasan out in the street asking when they could open. It had to get checked over as they were very close to the fire and the heat was quite intense.

[RodgHerMoore]

OP should just go to try other places. Similar comments made in other threads. Sydney is such a big city, so many other places and girls you can go to. No point fixating on this.

Good luck brother J!

[AHLUNGOR]

Interesting thread, thanks for the efforts from the OP.

He did post a consolidated review on many shops and a good effort. As far as size goes, have a read of what he posted below and draw your own conclusions……… haha


Ps. Assuming the D is for his dick…… lol


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Abby 70 + 100FS, takes the D very well, terrible massage but 10/10 enthusiasm with everything else. chinese late 20s -30s, nice petite shaven body.

Sally 70 + 100FS, cant take the D very well, terrible massage but gets her face between your @sschecks and goes BL-ALALALALALA, thai early to late 30s, kinda nice body with tats, bolt ons that have missed the service date, she doesn't speak a word of English but understands hand gestures well.

Barbie 70 + 100FS, cant take the D very well (pulled translate out on her phone 30 mins into it and said "pain" "big" "long") she finished off with a good HJ then a good CBJ, chinese lates 20's or 30s, nice unshaven petite body with some boltons that needed some major service, she jokes and is funny at times but can kinda have an attitude sometimes.

[jandross45]

Hi guys, thankyou for your replies.. in the meantime I tried out a few places.

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Additionally, its a legal business that pays taxes, follows regulations and does not exploit visa dodgers. These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.

However, I will recommend lily @ Marrickville, nice rooms, shower, good attitude and a threesome is 250 altogether - 1 hour.

Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required.

I have friends and "colleagues" in their 20's and 30's that participate in these activities too and have the exact same problems. Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it. Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.

Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... I would put them on a lower level than the guy that wifed up Mia Khalifa.... at least she isn't draining his finances.

[Zimmerman]

Hi guys, thankyou for your replies.. in the meantime I tried out a few places.

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Additionally, its a legal business that pays taxes, follows regulations and does not exploit visa dodgers. These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.

However, I will recommend lily @ Marrickville, nice rooms, shower, good attitude and a threesome is 250 altogether - 1 hour.

Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required.

I have friends and "colleagues" in their 20's and 30's that participate in these activities too and have the exact same problems. Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it. Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.

Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... I would put them on a lower level than the guy that wifed up Mia Khalifa.... at least she isn't draining his finances.

I think it's more so that if you want to have guaranteed full service then go to a brothel, if you are okay with not having it then go to an rnt shop and chose who you like, or chose who you know offers FS. At the end of the day ladies in massage shop are only obligated to offer what they feel comfortable with and within what is offered or included in the shop price.

[jandross45]

You missed my point. But you're 100% right l, they are only obligated to do what they feel comfortable doing. Also, I have no obligation for anything and I am only gonna tip the amount I feel comfortable paying. Several times I've walked out the door with an angry owner following behind me and angry mumbling gibberish after I told them I'm not paying brothel prices.

[yellow_sub]

Hi guys, thankyou for your replies.. in the meantime I tried out a few places.

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Additionally, its a legal business that pays taxes, follows regulations and does not exploit visa dodgers. These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.

However, I will recommend lily @ Marrickville, nice rooms, shower, good attitude and a threesome is 250 altogether - 1 hour.

Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required.

I have friends and "colleagues" in their 20's and 30's that participate in these activities too and have the exact same problems. Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it. Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.

Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... I would put them on a lower level than the guy that wifed up Mia Khalifa.... at least she isn't draining his finances.

Oh I totally agree some of the MLs are getting outrageously greedy. The supply is down after covid and inflation blablabla….and I am sure the owners don’t have much control neither. Ah…missed the old days.

I will just stick to the big establishments if I want to go all the way. No point doing it on a small massage table and get pissed off.

[Mybadwilly22]

Alright, mate. Pull up a stool, crack open a VB, and let’s unpack this saga of yours. Now, I’ve read through your epic odyssey of punting, and I gotta say, this isn’t just a thread—it’s a Shakespearean comedy with a bit of tragedy and a lot of slapstick. You’ve got closures, heartbreaks, awkward moments, and enough grievances to start your own union. So let’s take a deep breath and figure this out.

First off, your regular joint getting raided? That’s like losing your favourite local pub because some tool complained about the noise. I get it—it stings. But let’s not act surprised here. They advertised “students” who didn’t speak English. Mate, if you didn’t see the flashing neon sign that said “Council Bait”, that’s on you. It’s like walking into a fish market and wondering why it smells like fish. The memories will live on, sure, but the council’s just doing what the council does—ruining the fun.

And then, like a true romantic, you went looking for a rebound. Enter Le Soleil, the place you gave four chances. Four. Mate, even my mum doesn’t give me that many chances when I forget her birthday. First, you see cops hanging around—did you think they were the welcoming committee? And then there’s the dodgy room under the stairs. Look, if Harry Potter didn’t like living there, why would you think it’s a good punting spot?

But let’s get to the juiciest bit: Angel. Ah, the angel who asked how big it was. Now, my professional opinion as a world-class sex therapist? That was code for “I’m not interested.” She wasn’t asking for logistics, mate; she was politely closing the door. The fact she walked out mid-demonstration of your hand-sized ruler just proves it. That wasn’t rejection; that was her sparing your feelings. Think of it as a mercy out. And let’s be honest—no one needs that kind of awkwardness. That’s not a service, that’s trauma with a side of laughter from the owner. Classic Sydney.

Then there’s Abby. Poor Abby, who couldn’t even stick around long enough to hear your offer. And the owner’s laughing again? Mate, if two people in the same establishment are laughing at you, you might be the punchline. Abby didn’t even need to speak English—her exit said it all. She pulled the classic Aussie move: “Nah, I’m good.” And let’s not pretend telling the owner she’s losing money was gonna win you points. Her reply? “I don’t care.” Mate, that’s corporate poetry. Put it on a bumper sticker.

Now, your critiques of massage shops—spot on in some ways. Some of them do want brothel prices for hostel-level service. But here’s the kicker: you’re the common denominator in these tales of woe. Every joint can’t be wrong. At some point, you’ve gotta ask yourself, “Am I the problem?” It’s like every time you visit, the vibe shifts from “Welcome!” to “How quickly can we get rid of this bloke?” Maybe it’s your approach, mate. Showing up, measuring things with your hands, and dropping FS demands isn’t exactly subtle. You’re not at Bunnings, and the workers aren’t picking out the right screw.

Now, about the racism you brought up. Yeah, it’s disgusting and unacceptable. But you also mentioned some of your Indian mates getting turned away. Look, I hate to say it, but you and I both know some blokes don’t put enough effort into hygiene. A whiff of BO in a tiny massage room is like setting off a stink bomb in a closet—it lingers, mate. If you know someone’s guilty of that, send them a gift basket with deodorant and a note that says, “From one punter to another.”

On the flip side, Lily @ Marrickville? That’s a win, mate. Clean rooms, showers, and a threesome option? That’s the Holy Trinity of punting. Lily gets a gold star. And your mention of Ginza is smart. If you’re paying top dollar, go somewhere legal, legit, and luxurious. No moldy rooms, no language barriers, no drama—just a proper punt.

As for the advice from the other blokes here? They’ve got some gems. Spectra told you to let your wallet do the talking and stop dropping FS like it’s a menu item. Solid advice. 11Bravo suggested self-reflection, and honestly, mate, he’s right. When two different workers bail on you, and the owner laughs, it’s time to rethink the approach. Maybe dial down the “I want FS now” energy and work on your charm. And Zimmerman? Legend. He explained why Angel might’ve been off-limits—boyfriend drama, mate. Happens to the best of us.

So here’s the deal, champ: You’re not cursed. You’re just navigating Sydney’s punting scene like a bloke on his L-plates. Take a step back. Stop treating every shop like it owes you something. Work on the hygiene, the attitude, and the patience. Stick to places like Lily or Ginza where you know what you’re getting. And for the love of all things Aussie, stop measuring yourself in public—it’s weird, mate. No one’s impressed, least of all Angel.

And remember: Every punting tale’s got lessons, laughs, and sometimes a bit of humility. You’ve got the stories; now get the strategy. Happy punting, mate.

[jandross45]

Alright, mate. Pull up a stool, crack open a VB, and let’s unpack this saga of yours. Now, I’ve read through your epic odyssey of punting, and I gotta say, this isn’t just a thread—it’s a Shakespearean comedy with a bit of tragedy and a lot of slapstick. You’ve got closures, heartbreaks, awkward moments, and enough grievances to start your own union. So let’s take a deep breath and figure this out.

First off, your regular joint getting raided? That’s like losing your favourite local pub because some tool complained about the noise. I get it—it stings. But let’s not act surprised here. They advertised “students” who didn’t speak English. Mate, if you didn’t see the flashing neon sign that said “Council Bait”, that’s on you. It’s like walking into a fish market and wondering why it smells like fish. The memories will live on, sure, but the council’s just doing what the council does—ruining the fun.

And then, like a true romantic, you went looking for a rebound. Enter Le Soleil, the place you gave four chances. Four. Mate, even my mum doesn’t give me that many chances when I forget her birthday. First, you see cops hanging around—did you think they were the welcoming committee? And then there’s the dodgy room under the stairs. Look, if Harry Potter didn’t like living there, why would you think it’s a good punting spot?

But let’s get to the juiciest bit: Angel. Ah, the angel who asked how big it was. Now, my professional opinion as a world-class sex therapist? That was code for “I’m not interested.” She wasn’t asking for logistics, mate; she was politely closing the door. The fact she walked out mid-demonstration of your hand-sized ruler just proves it. That wasn’t rejection; that was her sparing your feelings. Think of it as a mercy out. And let’s be honest—no one needs that kind of awkwardness. That’s not a service, that’s trauma with a side of laughter from the owner. Classic Sydney.

Then there’s Abby. Poor Abby, who couldn’t even stick around long enough to hear your offer. And the owner’s laughing again? Mate, if two people in the same establishment are laughing at you, you might be the punchline. Abby didn’t even need to speak English—her exit said it all. She pulled the classic Aussie move: “Nah, I’m good.” And let’s not pretend telling the owner she’s losing money was gonna win you points. Her reply? “I don’t care.” Mate, that’s corporate poetry. Put it on a bumper sticker.

Now, your critiques of massage shops—spot on in some ways. Some of them do want brothel prices for hostel-level service. But here’s the kicker: you’re the common denominator in these tales of woe. Every joint can’t be wrong. At some point, you’ve gotta ask yourself, “Am I the problem?” It’s like every time you visit, the vibe shifts from “Welcome!” to “How quickly can we get rid of this bloke?” Maybe it’s your approach, mate. Showing up, measuring things with your hands, and dropping FS demands isn’t exactly subtle. You’re not at Bunnings, and the workers aren’t picking out the right screw.

Now, about the racism you brought up. Yeah, it’s disgusting and unacceptable. But you also mentioned some of your Indian mates getting turned away. Look, I hate to say it, but you and I both know some blokes don’t put enough effort into hygiene. A whiff of BO in a tiny massage room is like setting off a stink bomb in a closet—it lingers, mate. If you know someone’s guilty of that, send them a gift basket with deodorant and a note that says, “From one punter to another.”

On the flip side, Lily @ Marrickville? That’s a win, mate. Clean rooms, showers, and a threesome option? That’s the Holy Trinity of punting. Lily gets a gold star. And your mention of Ginza is smart. If you’re paying top dollar, go somewhere legal, legit, and luxurious. No moldy rooms, no language barriers, no drama—just a proper punt.

As for the advice from the other blokes here? They’ve got some gems. Spectra told you to let your wallet do the talking and stop dropping FS like it’s a menu item. Solid advice. 11Bravo suggested self-reflection, and honestly, mate, he’s right. When two different workers bail on you, and the owner laughs, it’s time to rethink the approach. Maybe dial down the “I want FS now” energy and work on your charm. And Zimmerman? Legend. He explained why Angel might’ve been off-limits—boyfriend drama, mate. Happens to the best of us.

So here’s the deal, champ: You’re not cursed. You’re just navigating Sydney’s punting scene like a bloke on his L-plates. Take a step back. Stop treating every shop like it owes you something. Work on the hygiene, the attitude, and the patience. Stick to places like Lily or Ginza where you know what you’re getting. And for the love of all things Aussie, stop measuring yourself in public—it’s weird, mate. No one’s impressed, least of all Angel.

And remember: Every punting tale’s got lessons, laughs, and sometimes a bit of humility. You’ve got the stories; now get the strategy. Happy punting, mate.

That's some great rhetoric right there with some great humour. However, there are no lessons to be learned or attitude adjustments needed because we are dealing with illegal shops, money launderers and women with no morals or dignity.... and I'm a simple man looking to get my ding dong serviced at the best possible price.

I'm very well dressed, clean, late 20's, 6 ft, gym three times a week, I'm not ugly but not a Brad Pitt either... so I might look intimidating... I don't drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble so I think this pleasure investment is well deserved once a week from my end as the time invested in Tinder, chatting, drinks, dinner is not worth it anymore.

However, out of the 10-15 shops I received service, Le Soilel is the only shop I have had problems with and was stupid enough to give it many chances due to the reviews on this site.. bad luck for me... maybe, but after seeing some of the other guys that go into this shop, what they look like and how they carry themselves, I'm getting some major simp vibes from types that would probably cut their left arm off before mildly offending one of these girls, the girls know this and they know how to take advantage of this type. Additionally, I got some major trafficking vibes from le soleil, one girl was sitting on chair hidden behind a curtain, like she was playing hide and seek where you walk in, quiet dehumanising and it really ruined my mood. No doubt the owner told her to be there.

Further, I'm straight up about full service... that's why I am there like half the guys that walk in. Imagine paying $80 for an hour and 30 mins in she says ohhhh too big or wants $300 dollar tip for FS but I shouldn't need to explain that....common sense??, I want to know how much I am paying before it happens, I'm not interested in being swindled. They dress in the most skimpy clubbing outfits in a massage pallor, and I'm awkward??

And flashing cash around is the dumbest thing you could do.... you'll end up getting robbed blind while you're on the massage table face down, finger up the bum and totally distracted or at the very least you have no room for negotiating now because she has seen all those pineapples.... you would be an absolute moron to do that in SE Asia.

And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. These girls mainly deal with pasty bald boomers with a beer gut and a terrible perverted personality.. yet they get on their knees and do anything for them.... for a price. Even ginza says 'no indian' on their website... may beauty massage was banned on this forum for saying straight up 'no Nepalis for Sia' on the advertisement, its a culture thing.. I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.

[mn69]

And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. These girls mainly deal with pasty bald boomers with a beer gut and a terrible perverted personality.. yet they get on their knees and do anything for them.... for a price. Even ginza says 'no indian' on their website... may beauty massage was banned on this forum for saying straight up 'no Nepalis for Sia' on the advertisement, its a culture thing.. I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.

Girls are allowed to refuse to service Indian/Nepalese or any other South Asian ethnicity of their choice.

I think it will be the customer who will get a legal notice of sexual assault or rape if he forces himself onto a girl who doesn't want to get intimate with him

Welcome to the Western World bro

God Bless Australia !!
And God Bless the United States of America !!

[jandross45]

[QUOTE=mn69;3234272]Girls are allowed to refuse to service Indian/Nepalese or any other South Asian ethnicity of their choice.

I think it will be the customer who will get a legal notice of sexual assault or rape if he forces himself onto a girl who doesn't want to get intimate with him

/QUOTE]

Wow!! you just went and made up something I didn't even say and completely irrelevant.

Australian has laws written as something called legislation... and that says that your business cannot openly discriminate customers based on race whether it is a fish and chips shop, 'massage' pallor or brothel. Sure, a girl can refuse service and not obligate why but you cannot advertise it and walk straight up to my mate in this instance when he walks in.... and say 'no Indian, leave, leave, not welcome!'.... and that's the owner before he got to see the girls... but it happened to him several times at different places in different ways.

[Spectra]

That's some great rhetoric right there with some great humour. However, there are no lessons to be learned or attitude adjustments needed because we are dealing with illegal shops, money launderers and women with no morals or dignity.... and I'm a simple man looking to get my ding dong serviced at the best possible price.

I'm very well dressed, clean, late 20's, 6 ft, gym three times a week, I'm not ugly but not a Brad Pitt either... so I might look intimidating... I don't drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble so I think this pleasure investment is well deserved once a week from my end as the time invested in Tinder, chatting, drinks, dinner is not worth it anymore.

However, out of the 10-15 shops I received service, Le Soilel is the only shop I have had problems with and was stupid enough to give it many chances due to the reviews on this site.. bad luck for me... maybe, but after seeing some of the other guys that go into this shop, what they look like and how they carry themselves, I'm getting some major simp vibes from types that would probably cut their left arm off before mildly offending one of these girls, the girls know this and they know how to take advantage of this type. Additionally, I got some major trafficking vibes from le soleil, one girl was sitting on chair hidden behind a curtain, like she was playing hide and seek where you walk in, quiet dehumanising and it really ruined my mood. No doubt the owner told her to be there.

Further, I'm straight up about full service... that's why I am there like half the guys that walk in. Imagine paying $80 for an hour and 30 mins in she says ohhhh too big or wants $300 dollar tip for FS but I shouldn't need to explain that....common sense??, I want to know how much I am paying before it happens, I'm not interested in being swindled. They dress in the most skimpy clubbing outfits in a massage pallor, and I'm awkward??

And flashing cash around is the dumbest thing you could do.... you'll end up getting robbed blind while you're on the massage table face down, finger up the bum and totally distracted or at the very least you have no room for negotiating now because she has seen all those pineapples.... you would be an absolute moron to do that in SE Asia.

And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. These girls mainly deal with pasty bald boomers with a beer gut and a terrible perverted personality.. yet they get on their knees and do anything for them.... for a price. Even ginza says 'no indian' on their website... may beauty massage was banned on this forum for saying straight up 'no Nepalis for Sia' on the advertisement, its a culture thing.. I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.


MATTHEW 7:16
“By their fruits so shall you know them”.

[mn69]

[QUOTE=mn69;3234272]Girls are allowed to refuse to service Indian/Nepalese or any other South Asian ethnicity of their choice.

I think it will be the customer who will get a legal notice of sexual assault or rape if he forces himself onto a girl who doesn't want to get intimate with him

/QUOTE]

Wow!! you just went and made up something I didn't even say and completely irrelevant.

Australian has laws written as something called legislation... and that says that your business cannot openly discriminate customers based on race whether it is a fish and chips shop, 'massage' pallor or brothel. Sure, a girl can refuse service and not obligate why but you cannot advertise it and walk straight up to my mate in this instance when he walks in.... and say 'no Indian, leave, leave, not welcome!'.... and that's the owner before he got to see the girls... but it happened to him several times at different places in different ways.

People have a right in Australia. Its un-democratic to force women to get intimate with men they don't want to. Otherwise its sexual "servitude" Even if its written in law.

You can be an expert all you want in "Law"

If an Aboriginal-Australian woman tells your Indian mate to "f*ck off", will he go and cry to the courts and claim "discrimination".... same rights apply with these Asian women.

[yellow_sub]

That's some great rhetoric right there with some great humour. However, there are no lessons to be learned or attitude adjustments needed because we are dealing with illegal shops, money launderers and women with no morals or dignity.... and I'm a simple man looking to get my ding dong serviced at the best possible price.

I'm very well dressed, clean, late 20's, 6 ft, gym three times a week, I'm not ugly but not a Brad Pitt either... so I might look intimidating... I don't drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble so I think this pleasure investment is well deserved once a week from my end as the time invested in Tinder, chatting, drinks, dinner is not worth it anymore.

However, out of the 10-15 shops I received service, Le Soilel is the only shop I have had problems with and was stupid enough to give it many chances due to the reviews on this site.. bad luck for me... maybe, but after seeing some of the other guys that go into this shop, what they look like and how they carry themselves, I'm getting some major simp vibes from types that would probably cut their left arm off before mildly offending one of these girls, the girls know this and they know how to take advantage of this type. Additionally, I got some major trafficking vibes from le soleil, one girl was sitting on chair hidden behind a curtain, like she was playing hide and seek where you walk in, quiet dehumanising and it really ruined my mood. No doubt the owner told her to be there.

Further, I'm straight up about full service... that's why I am there like half the guys that walk in. Imagine paying $80 for an hour and 30 mins in she says ohhhh too big or wants $300 dollar tip for FS but I shouldn't need to explain that....common sense??, I want to know how much I am paying before it happens, I'm not interested in being swindled. They dress in the most skimpy clubbing outfits in a massage pallor, and I'm awkward??

And flashing cash around is the dumbest thing you could do.... you'll end up getting robbed blind while you're on the massage table face down, finger up the bum and totally distracted or at the very least you have no room for negotiating now because she has seen all those pineapples.... you would be an absolute moron to do that in SE Asia.

And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. These girls mainly deal with pasty bald boomers with a beer gut and a terrible perverted personality.. yet they get on their knees and do anything for them.... for a price. Even ginza says 'no indian' on their website... may beauty massage was banned on this forum for saying straight up 'no Nepalis for Sia' on the advertisement, its a culture thing.. I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.

Wow, brother J. That’s some crazy speculation and acquisition you have with this shop when you go into trafficking lol

And now you are back to your original point, you said you ask the owner about full service, surely she will refuse to answer. I think “you need to know how much you are paying” that apply to both sides, girls can offer/refuse any services by choice in any moment and so do you, either up front or when you are ass naked. You can get up blue balled and walk, leave a pineapple for courtesy if the girl is stripped and move on. You sounded handsome and fit, the other 10-15 spots can make you feel like king.

To the racism bit, what else you can say, stereotypes are everywhere? Girls or owners aren’t going to do an interview for each customers before they pay I guess.

With all these, I think we have enough for a case to report, muhahaha

[jandross45]

[QUOTE=jandross45;3234287]

People have a right in Australia. Its un-democratic to force women to get intimate with men they don't want to. Otherwise its sexual "servitude" Even if its written in law.

You can be an expert all you want in "Law"

If an Aboriginal-Australian woman tells your Indian mate to "f*ck off", will he go and cry to the courts and claim "discrimination".... same rights apply with these Asian women.

Again, you just completely made up something that I did not say and then made up a hypothetical situation that is not relevant, it would be relevant if the aboriginal women owned a cake shop and told the Indian man to **** *** because of his race but no.

[jandross45]

With all these, I think we have enough for a case to report, muhahaha

Maybe shops should say 'big cocks welcome' on their Aus99/locanto ads, so I don't have any further issues.

[Mybadwilly22]

Alright, Jandross, mate, sit down and strap in because I’ve taken the liberty of giving your thread a proper deep dive. You know why? Because my week’s done. Punting? Sorted. House? In order. Gardening? Finished. Even squeezed in a couple of movies and ate out twice. So yeah, I’m bored out of my bloody mind, and your thread is giving me life. You’ve put your heart out there, and now I’m here to return the favor by telling you exactly why your punting life is like a bad sitcom.

Let’s Start With the Basics: Frustration Central

Mate, I can feel your frustration oozing through the screen. Shops closed, dodgy setups, refusals, and a parade of disappointment. I get it—it’s like you’re the Charlie Brown of punting. Every time you show up, someone moves the damn ball. But here’s the thing: it sounds like you’re walking into these places expecting a Westfield-level of professionalism. You’re not at Tiffany’s, mate—you’re at Le Soleil, where the most consistent thing is the inconsistency.

You’re throwing around terms like “trafficking vibes” and “money-laundering setups.” Now, I’m not saying you’re wrong, but expecting transparency and ethics from a massage shop is like expecting a kebab shop at 3 a.m. to have Michelin stars. You’ve got to adjust your expectations, mate. Otherwise, it’s just going to be disappointment on repeat.

The Defensiveness Chronicles

Alright, let’s talk about how you’ve turned your own hygiene and charm into a defensive wall taller than the Great Bloody Wall of China. You’re clean, respectful, and polite—got it. But here’s the kicker: just because you’re ticking the boxes doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed a green light. It’s not a bloody Bunnings return policy where if you show the receipt, they’ve got to take you in.

And let’s not pretend WLs aren’t human. You might be the cleanest, nicest bloke in the world, but if you’re coming in with a transactional vibe—dropping FS expectations like you’re ordering a quarter chicken and chips—it might rub them the wrong way. You said it yourself: “I make it clear upfront.” Mate, there’s upfront, and then there’s up-front-like-a-salesman. Sometimes, subtlety’s the way to go. Think whisper, not megaphone.

Racial Discrimination: The Sticky Issue

Now, let’s tackle the elephant in the room—or should I say the naan in the curry? You’re absolutely right to be pissed about outright racism. It’s ugly, unprofessional, and illegal. But here’s the thing: while not all Indians smell, it’s consistent enough to be a stereotype. And WLs, for better or worse, rely on first impressions. So yeah, your mate may be the exception, but that doesn’t stop WLs from bracing themselves like they’ve walked into a spice shop.

Is it fair? Hell no. But in an unregulated industry where everyone’s winging it, WLs are going to lean on stereotypes—lazy or not. And unless your mate rolls in smelling like Sauvage and exuding Jason Momoa vibes, it’s a hard sell.

Your Rational Approach Is a Double-Edged Sword

Now, I’ve got to give it to you: you’ve got the logical mind of an engineer. You see punting as a “pleasure investment” and approach it with the same precision most blokes save for picking a new BBQ. That’s commendable. But here’s where it backfires—punting isn’t about logic. It’s chaos, mate. It’s rolling the dice at the casino and hoping the dealer’s in a good mood.

You want transparency, and I get that. But this isn’t Coles, where every item’s labeled with a price per kilo. It’s the wild west. And walking in demanding FS upfront is like going on a first date and asking for the bill before the entrees. It’s efficient, sure, but it kills the mood.

The Forum Feedback: Comedy Gold

Mate, let’s talk about the legends in this thread. They’ve been dishing out advice, and you’ve been batting it away like an out-of-form cricketer. Spectra’s line, “By their fruits, so shall you know them,” deserves a bloody standing ovation. Translation: if the shop looks dodgy, don’t expect the service to be top-tier. Meanwhile, yellow_sub is out here basically saying, “Mate, if you don’t like the game, why are you still playing?” And he’s not wrong.

The thing is, they’re not trying to have a go at you—they’re trying to help you stop digging this hole you’re in. But instead of listening, you’re doubling down, blaming the shops, and wondering why the spade feels heavier.

Cautionary Tales You Don’t Want to Be

Now, I’ve got to warn you—you’re veering dangerously close to becoming one of the forum’s horror stories. Look at these threads:
• “WL’s Request to Decline Visits”: The guy who couldn’t read the room. Don’t be Zigman, mate. If someone’s uncomfortable, back off.
• “Bad Punting Days”: Shops closed, raided, rejected—it’s like a bloody punting apocalypse. Don’t turn every shop visit into a story of woe.
• “I Got Played by a ML”: Thinking it’s love when it’s just business? Mate, don’t even start.
• “Got Assaulted on My Way to a Punt”: If the universe is throwing signs that punting isn’t your thing, maybe take the hint before you’re writing the sequel.

These blokes are cautionary tales for a reason. Learn from their missteps.

Final Thoughts: Time for a Reset

So here’s my two cents: take a deep breath, lower those expectations, and let go of the need for control. This is punting, mate—not a corporate transaction. You’ve got to learn to roll with the punches, laugh at the mishaps, and focus on finding places that consistently deliver.

And while you’re at it, maybe give the forums another read—this time with an open mind. The advice is there, mate. It’s up to you to use it.

Cheers, Jandross. Keep us updated on your punting adventures—and maybe skip Le Soleil next time, yeah?

[blanet]

I get it—it’s like you’re the Charlie Brown of punting. Every time you show up, someone moves the damn ball.

Hahaha and he keeps coming back to Lucy or should I say Le Soleil to get dudded out of the punt.

[yellow_sub]

Hahaha and he keeps coming back to Lucy or should I say Le Soleil to get dudded out of the punt.

Now you said it, maybe they are real life Charlie and Lucy! Charlie can’t let go

[jandross45]

Alright, Jandross, mate, sit down and strap in because I’ve taken the liberty of giving your thread a proper deep dive. You know why? Because my week’s done. Punting? Sorted. House? In order. Gardening? Finished. Even squeezed in a couple of movies and ate out twice. So yeah, I’m bored out of my bloody mind, and your thread is giving me life. You’ve put your heart out there, and now I’m here to return the favor by telling you exactly why your punting life is like a bad sitcom.

Let’s Start With the Basics: Frustration Central

Mate, I can feel your frustration oozing through the screen. Shops closed, dodgy setups, refusals, and a parade of disappointment. I get it—it’s like you’re the Charlie Brown of punting. Every time you show up, someone moves the damn ball. But here’s the thing: it sounds like you’re walking into these places expecting a Westfield-level of professionalism. You’re not at Tiffany’s, mate—you’re at Le Soleil, where the most consistent thing is the inconsistency.

You’re throwing around terms like “trafficking vibes” and “money-laundering setups.” Now, I’m not saying you’re wrong, but expecting transparency and ethics from a massage shop is like expecting a kebab shop at 3 a.m. to have Michelin stars. You’ve got to adjust your expectations, mate. Otherwise, it’s just going to be disappointment on repeat.

The Defensiveness Chronicles

Alright, let’s talk about how you’ve turned your own hygiene and charm into a defensive wall taller than the Great Bloody Wall of China. You’re clean, respectful, and polite—got it. But here’s the kicker: just because you’re ticking the boxes doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed a green light. It’s not a bloody Bunnings return policy where if you show the receipt, they’ve got to take you in.

And let’s not pretend WLs aren’t human. You might be the cleanest, nicest bloke in the world, but if you’re coming in with a transactional vibe—dropping FS expectations like you’re ordering a quarter chicken and chips—it might rub them the wrong way. You said it yourself: “I make it clear upfront.” Mate, there’s upfront, and then there’s up-front-like-a-salesman. Sometimes, subtlety’s the way to go. Think whisper, not megaphone.

Racial Discrimination: The Sticky Issue

Now, let’s tackle the elephant in the room—or should I say the naan in the curry? You’re absolutely right to be pissed about outright racism. It’s ugly, unprofessional, and illegal. But here’s the thing: while not all Indians smell, it’s consistent enough to be a stereotype. And WLs, for better or worse, rely on first impressions. So yeah, your mate may be the exception, but that doesn’t stop WLs from bracing themselves like they’ve walked into a spice shop.

Is it fair? Hell no. But in an unregulated industry where everyone’s winging it, WLs are going to lean on stereotypes—lazy or not. And unless your mate rolls in smelling like Sauvage and exuding Jason Momoa vibes, it’s a hard sell.

Your Rational Approach Is a Double-Edged Sword

Now, I’ve got to give it to you: you’ve got the logical mind of an engineer. You see punting as a “pleasure investment” and approach it with the same precision most blokes save for picking a new BBQ. That’s commendable. But here’s where it backfires—punting isn’t about logic. It’s chaos, mate. It’s rolling the dice at the casino and hoping the dealer’s in a good mood.

You want transparency, and I get that. But this isn’t Coles, where every item’s labeled with a price per kilo. It’s the wild west. And walking in demanding FS upfront is like going on a first date and asking for the bill before the entrees. It’s efficient, sure, but it kills the mood.

The Forum Feedback: Comedy Gold

Mate, let’s talk about the legends in this thread. They’ve been dishing out advice, and you’ve been batting it away like an out-of-form cricketer. Spectra’s line, “By their fruits, so shall you know them,” deserves a bloody standing ovation. Translation: if the shop looks dodgy, don’t expect the service to be top-tier. Meanwhile, yellow_sub is out here basically saying, “Mate, if you don’t like the game, why are you still playing?” And he’s not wrong.

The thing is, they’re not trying to have a go at you—they’re trying to help you stop digging this hole you’re in. But instead of listening, you’re doubling down, blaming the shops, and wondering why the spade feels heavier.

Cautionary Tales You Don’t Want to Be

Now, I’ve got to warn you—you’re veering dangerously close to becoming one of the forum’s horror stories. Look at these threads:
• “WL’s Request to Decline Visits”: The guy who couldn’t read the room. Don’t be Zigman, mate. If someone’s uncomfortable, back off.
• “Bad Punting Days”: Shops closed, raided, rejected—it’s like a bloody punting apocalypse. Don’t turn every shop visit into a story of woe.
• “I Got Played by a ML”: Thinking it’s love when it’s just business? Mate, don’t even start.
• “Got Assaulted on My Way to a Punt”: If the universe is throwing signs that punting isn’t your thing, maybe take the hint before you’re writing the sequel.

These blokes are cautionary tales for a reason. Learn from their missteps.

Final Thoughts: Time for a Reset

So here’s my two cents: take a deep breath, lower those expectations, and let go of the need for control. This is punting, mate—not a corporate transaction. You’ve got to learn to roll with the punches, laugh at the mishaps, and focus on finding places that consistently deliver.

And while you’re at it, maybe give the forums another read—this time with an open mind. The advice is there, mate. It’s up to you to use it.

Cheers, Jandross. Keep us updated on your punting adventures—and maybe skip Le Soleil next time, yeah?

“WL’s Request to Decline Visits” and “I Got Played by a ML” .....jeez man not really relevant to me... those guys sound a bit autistic and have stalking vibes, as I already said I went to le soleil as a walk in and didn't really care what girl I got, it was always a backup for me as the street is so busy and I could get seen easily. Also, I only did this because I thought I was just really unlucky the first few times I went and these forums kept saying it is really good. Maybe you weirdos are spoiling it for the simple men such myself that want my ding dong serviced weekly by whoever.

On the side note: I always give these girls a fake name as a few of them have actually asked what I do for a living?, how much I make?, do I have a family?..... you know what that means..... and I'm plain not interested.... I just want my ding dong serviced.

But a vast vast.... vast majority of my punts have been positive and I never get the same girl twice... and I always want to try out a new shop.

Ultimately, this aint no horror story as its the only place that has ever refused service for me.... specifically because of my ding dong size.... I would say its a comedy thread with some off topic bickering from boredom.

[Spectra]

Le Soleil has rear lane access. It’s the second shop up the lane on the left. I like the place and would never say a bad thing about it.

Mybadwilly22 you misread my post “by their fruits so shall you know them” was relating to jandross45 and NOT the shop.

[mn69]

Again, you just completely made up something that I did not say and then made up a hypothetical situation that is not relevant, it would be relevant if the aboriginal women owned a cake shop and told the Indian man to **** *** because of his race but no.

I just don't understand why people keep screaming "racism" if a shop or a girl is "no Indian"

If a shop or girl offering intimate services is "no Indian", that is not racism or discrimination or whatever you want to call it

Thats called their "God Given Right"

How would you like it if your mum or sister were forced to service men they don't want to....

[GoldfishMan]

they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch...

No you can't. Ginza prices are around $300 for the hour, give or take $20.
You've got blinkers on, mate. All because of your frustration with being able to afford punting in this COL crisis. Plenty others in the same boat as you. Fap to some quality porn and save your money.

[personaa]

Calling MLs with no morals or dignity is really sad bro. I personally won't judge the MLs/WLs in such a dehumanising manner. Sure there are some who are just greedy but aren't we all in a free market.

Some of these MLs/WLs are more human compared to some of my ex-gfs.

[11Bravo]

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Really, is Ginza having a sale I don't know about? As GoldfishMan posted, not at their normal rates.


These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... Let me see... The MP is illegal because they are conducting illegal activity, but aren't you aiding and abetting said illegal activity by requesting the illegal activity being conducted in their premises? YOUR moral high ground seems a bit slippery.


we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.So perhaps you're upset that the seller is not willing to provide you with a discount? Where I come from, that's what we call a free market.


Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required. Again, where I come from, it's the seller that sets the price; up to the buyer whether he accepts or not. Likewise with services to be provided. And perhaps, just perhaps, the provider enjoys the freedom (say what, heresy, she has freedoms?) to decide who she sees, what she provides, and how much she charges. Some people enjoy assembly line work, others piecemeal work...


Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it.Au contraire, drossboy, seems they are handling it just fine, WITH LAUGHTER, while it's your ilk that can't handle it.


Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.Ah yes, so why are you espousing the virtues of Ginza when they are guilty of this, in your opinion, vile act?

For me, it's simple. There's a box of 100 cookies, 1 of which is contaminated and can cause you serious injury. You won't know until you try. Myself, and it seems most providers, are willing to chuck the box in the bin rather than take the risk. Anyone who is even a casual observer is aware of South Asian attitudes of entitlement when it comes to women. So it's not just the BO, that is easily ascertained; the entitled attitudes can be easily hidden until in the room.


Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... AKA "sour grapes"...


However, there are no lessons to be learned or attitude adjustments needed because we are dealing with illegal shops, money launderers and women with no morals or dignity.... and I'm a simple man looking to get my ding dong serviced at the best possible price.As I pointed out above, in an illegal shop. And I'd STRONGLY suggest you spend less time with your Indian friends because a certain sense of entitlement pervades your posts: Well, of course "she has no morals or dignity" because she told me no (and lets NOT forget, LAUGHED...) Yes indeed, no morals or dignity for not submitting to Mr Entitled.


I'm very well dressed, clean, late 20's, 6 ft, gym three times a week, I'm not ugly but not a Brad Pitt either... so I might look intimidating... I don't drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble so I think this pleasure investment is well deserved once a week from my end as the time invested in Tinder, chatting, drinks, dinner is not worth it anymore.So the world, or at least she, owes you. Like I say, where I come from, we call that entitlement.


Le Soilel is the only shop I have had problems with and was stupid enough to give it many chances due to the reviews on this site.. bad luck for me... maybe, but after seeing some of the other guys that go into this shop, what they look like and how they carry themselves, I'm getting some major simp vibes from types that would probably cut their left arm off before mildly offending one of these girls, the girls know this and they know how to take advantage of this type.Seems Aesop was right. Perhaps some of the girls like an easy going guy, not one with a bend over and brace attitude.


Additionally, I got some major trafficking vibes from le soleil, one girl was sitting on chair hidden behind a curtain, like she was playing hide and seek where you walk in, quiet dehumanising and it really ruined my mood.OK, Mr Hawaii-5-O, but a reasonable alternative is she just doesn't want to be seen by some entitled piss-ant, saving her the trouble of saying no (she must be selfish, denying the shop a chance at some laughter).


Further, I'm straight up about full service... Gee, I thought that was well-covered in SYD Punting 101, the difference between an MP and a brothel. But here again, that pesky freedom of choice rears its ugly head.


I'm not interested in being swindled. And she's not interested in YOUR business. Seems straightforward to me.


They dress in the most skimpy clubbing outfits in a massage pallor, and I'm awkward?? Oh, those Jezedbels, those scheming harlots tempting men with their dress, only to exercise... wait for it... wait for it... you know it's coming... free will. Is there no God that will smite these evil sinners...


And flashing cash around is the dumbest thing you could do.... you'll end up getting robbed blind while you're on the massage table face down, finger up the bum and totally distracted I certainly don't flash cash, but I also don't carry a butt plug that I use to hide my stash while I'm in the shower. I've had no trouble leaving a WG sleeping in my bed while I've gone to work, forgoing a rushed morning wakeup for an afternoon delight when I've returned. The only thing missing? The dust on my tables and shelves...


And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. Or practical experience with a clean, dressed well, had abs and spoke with a classy British accent entitled Indian... In fact, they might be the worst risk as they think they have the most rank, certainly well above some, how did you put it, "woman with no morals or dignity".


I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.Or it's called risk analysis, and easier to implement a blanket ban than individual vetting.


it was always a backup for me as the street is so busy and I could get seen easily. Sorry, I don't understand. If YOU are not breaking any laws, why is there a problem if you are seen?


Maybe you weirdos are spoiling it for the simple men such myself that want my ding dong serviced weekly by whoever.Actually, in MY experience, it's the likes of YOU that makes the likes of ME look good. I don't overpay, I don't tip, I just treat her as a person that doesn't owe me anything unless MUTUALLY agreed to.


I just want my ding dong serviced.And people in hell want ice water... Seems a NO brainer for me, but maybe you're of the slow type, so I'll explain carefully: Just...........go...........to...........a........ ...brothel.


Ultimately, this aint no horror story as its the only place that has ever refused service for me.... specifically because of my ding dong size.... Damn, you really are thick, aren't you.

You really come across as that little kid who didn't get his way and now is pouting in the corner. "It's not fair, they didn't play nice, they didn't play by my rules, it's not fair". Boo hoo.

[Double_Adapter]

Place your bets lads, $100 on this jandross45 bloke being Indian

[The giver]

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

haha so true, this reminds me of one situation when I was in my 20s. I was in a "situationship" with a WL and she got upset at me because I was seeing other girls. What about her? A lot of women are just irrational.

[The giver]

You missed my point. But you're 100% right l, they are only obligated to do what they feel comfortable doing. Also, I have no obligation for anything and I am only gonna tip the amount I feel comfortable paying. Several times I've walked out the door with an angry owner following behind me and angry mumbling gibberish after I told them I'm not paying brothel prices.

haha I stopped going to massage parlours for this exact reason. Most hot girls are charging minimum $150 and it's just standard not diamond, why would I pay that much when I can go to Ginza or similar places?

[The giver]

And yes.. my Indian mate was born in Australia, he is very clean, dresses well, has abs and speaks in almost a classy British accent, its just a deep grained hatred and racism, nothing to do with smell. These girls mainly deal with pasty bald boomers with a beer gut and a terrible perverted personality.. yet they get on their knees and do anything for them.... for a price. Even ginza says 'no indian' on their website... may beauty massage was banned on this forum for saying straight up 'no Nepalis for Sia' on the advertisement, its a culture thing.. I dont think they fully get it until they are served with a litigation notice.

I understand the frustration from classy and well groomed Indians, but you gotta look at it from the girls perspective. They don't know their personality until they're in the room. Seems like they've had enough bad experiences with violent and smelly Indians/Nepalese etc (taxi drivers?) that take their incel anger out on them. Even if it's a minority of bad apples, it's easier to just make a blanket ban instead of trying to vet every customer. BTW not all girls say no indian.

[mn69]

Place your bets lads, $100 on this jandross45 bloke being Indian

Oh yeh, he is Indian for sure. Speaks like an arrogant entitled one too. He is probably a newly migrated Indian who thinks he knows the "law" here in Australia and that he has "rights" now.

No Australian or Westernised Indian speaks in the manner that he did. No wonder alot of girls refuse to see him

[Rainyex28]

Rejection is part of life. A women can refuse to do a sexual service with you. Whether or not she has a reason, IT DOESN'T MATTER. It's not the same as refusing to serve you some food at the local sushi shop. If you think it's unjust, go call up A Current Affair, speak your mind. Hopefully they listen and let you air out your grievances on national TV.

[The giver]

That would be a hilarious segment. Who's game enough to go on precorded TV and complain about the negatives of punting?

[yellow_sub]

Hahahaah, “Refused service, Sydney underground world of trafficking and money laundering”

[jandross45]

Can we make this "I bet he is indian 100%" bet thing official?

[11Bravo]

Can we make this "I bet he is indian 100%" bet thing official?

Indian heritage or Indian attitude, same to me.

[johnny]

Place your bets lads, $100 on this jandross45 bloke being Indian

The girl rejected him for being too big so can’t be Indian! 😂😂

[iamthewalrus]

Then I went back a few days later and gave this place another chance stupidly, the only girl available was Abby.... she didn't look half as good/young as the photos they posted and didn't seem to speak English and left the room quickly before I asked how much her tips were going to be. The owner came back in and I told her that I wanted her for one hour with fs, she said no sorry and didnt elaborated further.... as I walked out I told her she is losing money, she replied that she doesn't care....

Read this OP again.
After being rejected again,at LSM this time by Abby, did you ask the owner (Candy) for FS ? I may have misread that sentence.
if thats the case, its an absurd request. She puts her girls first.
Shes a much smarter person than you take her for. In her view shes isn't losing money with someone of your arrogance departing the shop.

[ColesBag]

This jandross bloke has been pulled apart into pieces like a chicken nugget. Piss funny. What a fucking tool.

[Partyallnight]

i do not understand how customer can be so unlucky so many times.
I think he must do something wrong or his attitude to WL is very bad

[Keeping Up]

Knowing Angel she’s just a bit picky. Doesn’t enjoy Indians like a lot of ladies.
Knowing Candy she’s awesome and runs a good shop and wouldn’t give a shit if this bloke never darkened her doorway again. The shop will survive just fine.

[trampslikeus55]

Strange how this thread keeps rolling along. Here are my thoughts, even though you didn't ask. Firstly, as a punter that visited May Massage my price list on 3 occasions finished at 3P. The OP must have had a very accommodating regular or I must look like a soft touch. Secondly, the demise of MM appears to have been due to breaches in council zoning obligations, exactly the requirement the OP is only interested in. Rather than ranting maybe his good fortune has come to an end and living in 2024 is just tough

[colin.oscopy]

wrong thread..sorry

[11Bravo]

Strange how this thread keeps rolling along. Here are my thoughts, even though you didn't ask. Firstly, as a punter that visited May Massage my price list on 3 occasions finished at 3P. The OP must have had a very accommodating regular or I must look like a soft touch. Secondly, the demise of MM appears to have been due to breaches in council zoning obligations, exactly the requirement the OP is only interested in. Rather than ranting maybe his good fortune has come to an end and living in 2024 is just toughYes, May's demise was the FIRST paragraph. But the 3 following were ALL about how unfairly (boo-hoo) he was treated at LSM. That, to me, seems like a bit of a "good fortune ending" rant. 1:3 - that would be MY reading comprehension score.

[GoldfishMan]

i do not understand how customer can be so unlucky so many times.
I think he must do something wrong or his attitude to WL is very bad

My thoughts exactly.

[jandross45]

LSM is trash regardless of how good the girls look. I found a few better places in the meantime where my.large.penis.was appreciated. Some double BJs, one girls rusty trombone me while the other sat mouth opened waited for the cum shot.... and none of it was in a renovated stair closest. Some new reviews coming soon...

[yellow_sub]

LSM is trash regardless of how good the girls look. I found a few better places in the meantime where my.large.penis.was appreciated. Some double BJs, one girls rusty trombone me while the other sat mouth opened waited for the cum shot.... and none of it was in a renovated stair closest. Some new reviews coming soon...

Glad you are finally happy mate, look forward to your ARs.

[iamthewalrus]

LSM is trash regardless of how good the girls look. I found a few better places in the meantime where my.large.penis.was appreciated. Some double BJs, one girls rusty trombone me while the other sat mouth opened waited for the cum shot.... and none of it was in a renovated stair closest. Some new reviews coming soon...

Your response is idiotic and narcissistic.

Most others would agree LSM is a good shop, but the girls and Candy didn't tolerate your BS attitude.

[Keeping Up]

Candy puts the good customers in the upstairs room with the queen bed and chaise lounge. Rabble gets put under the stairs by the look of it.

[jandross45]

Imagine defending someone that exploits women, launders money and other illegal activities.

[Keeping Up]

Not defending anyone. Purely stating facts

[MasterPaizuri]

Imagine defending someone that exploits women, launders money and other illegal activities.

Mate.

You do bring up some good points, but I agree with a lot of the responses, you sound like a narcissist wanker.

Firstly, unless you have proof that Candy or any mamasan you don't like launders money, exploits women and does "other illegal activities" then be quiet.

Your pram is running out of toys since you keep throwing them out.

Secondly, do you just assume that the girls/mamasans in shops where you get your way AREN'T laundering money or exploiting the girls or involved in illegal activities??

Are you that far into your own little echo chamber that you can't see how insane some of the things you're saying are?

I've been to LSM s couple of times - it's a great place. I was also offered FS upfront - before I even paid.

I didn't demand it and honestly I was a bit surprised to be asked upfront multiple times.

If you want FS no matter what, then go to a brothel.

Otherwise, you're going to a Toyota dealership demanding they'll let you test drive the owners Lambo.

The owner is going to say no if you come in with unreasonable, rude and quite frankly insane requests like the girls owe you something cause you have a few dollars in your pocket.

Get over yourself.

If anyone is trying exploit these girls, it's you for not respecting them or their boundaries.

I doubt you've ever thought that far, but hopefully you'll take some feedback since there's some solid advice being given here by some senior members with far more experience than I in the punting game and personally, I've followed a lot of the good tips and haven't had a bad punt or bad Interaction yet.

Peace.

[11Bravo]

Imagine defending someone that exploits women, launders money and other illegal activities.
Again, Mr Hawaii-5-O, where's the proof? Seems that, TO YOU, she exploits women because she protects the ladies from your BS. Money laundering? Perhaps only because she didn't take your money... And illegal activities? It seems YOU are the one requesting illegal activities on her premises. Where I come from, you're what we call a hypocrite. Just like a little child, doesn't get his way, takes his balls and goes home crying. Then brags about all the great games he's been playing elsewhere. You don't like a shop? Fine, but slander/libel (I'm NOT a lawyer, can't tell the difference)... just STFU.




You do bring up some good points, but I agree with a lot of the responses, you sound like a narcissist wanker.

Firstly, unless you have proof that Candy or any mamasan you don't like launders money, exploits women and does "other illegal activities" then be quiet.

Your pram is running out of toys since you keep throwing them out.

Secondly, do you just assume that the girls/mamasans in shops where you get your way AREN'T laundering money or exploiting the girls or involved in illegal activities??

Are you that far into your own little echo chamber that you can't see how insane some of the things you're saying are?

I've been to LSM s couple of times - it's a great place. I was also offered FS upfront - before I even paid.

I didn't demand it and honestly I was a bit surprised to be asked upfront multiple times.

If you want FS no matter what, then go to a brothel.

Otherwise, you're going to a Toyota dealership demanding they'll let you test drive the owners Lambo.

The owner is going to say no if you come in with unreasonable, rude and quite frankly insane requests like the girls owe you something cause you have a few dollars in your pocket.

Get over yourself.

If anyone is trying exploit these girls, it's you for not respecting them or their boundaries.

I doubt you've ever thought that far, but hopefully you'll take some feedback since there's some solid advice being given here by some senior members with far more experience than I in the punting game and personally, I've followed a lot of the good tips and haven't had a bad punt or bad Interaction yet.
Well said and on point. But experience says "falling on deaf ears"...

[Meng]

It's quite convenient that establishments that denies service to him are sex traffickers and the places that treat him well aren't.

[personaa]

Been to LSM 2-3 times and never had any issues and I find Candy quite polite, She also makes some good recommendations definitely one of the finer Mamasans in Syd.

[yellow_sub]

It's quite convenient that establishments that denies service to him are sex traffickers and the places that treat him well aren't.

The fact that these so called sex trafficker and trafickee denied him makes me sad now lol

[11Bravo]

The fact that these so called sex trafficker and trafickee denied him makes me sad now lol
Actually, if you think about it, it's proof she wasn't being trafficked, she had a choice and exercised it. I don't think trafficked women have such choices, and I certainly don't think traffickers give them any. Hoisted by his own petard...

[yellow_sub]

I still looking forward to the dirty trombone ARs by the not traffickers and not money launderers.

I also think someone told Candy about this post.

[ColesBag]

LSM is trash regardless of how good the girls look. I found a few better places in the meantime where my.large.penis.was appreciated. Some double BJs, one girls rusty trombone me while the other sat mouth opened waited for the cum shot.... and none of it was in a renovated stair closest. Some new reviews coming soon...

You're a fucking spastic & a liar.

[jandross45]

I'm just a young bloke looking to have a crack in life and trying to get my ding dong played with. And I brought out all the butthurt senile boomers defending an illegal shop owner with their hooker name (candy). You bananas need a life.

[jandross45]

Bra she ain't gonna give you a discount or freebies for defending her, stop ya simpin.

[stallionmachine123]

Never in my 14 years of punting have I been examined or questioned how big my dick is before a session 😂😂

If it’s to big only thing you will get denied is FS but HJ will always be on the cards.

[jandross45]

It's happened twice before and I didn't ask it, maybe you need to up your game.

[jandross45]

Nope, I have hadd multiple girls complain about my size halfway through fs, unfortunately I am the problem.

[stallionmachine123]

It's happened twice before and I didn't ask it, maybe you need to up your game.

Your the one getting rejected at the door maybe you need to up your game

[MasterPaizuri]

LOL Stallion bro don't bother.

I'll bet anything that this dude is a Joe Rogan/Andrew Tate/Jordan Peterson lobotomite incel who thinks if he's not the hero in every situation, then he's victim and everyone is wrong.

Imagine being such a c*ckhead that you can't even get an alleged "illegal shop owner" to do you a solid and exploit her workers.

That's how much of a moron you are.

Can't even pay someone you accuse of being a criminal to *checks notes* do the very thing you're accusing her of 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 even with all your money

The level of self own and cognitive dissonance is staggering 🤣🤣🤣

Stay alpha bro lmao

[Keeping Up]

Anyone on here who feels the needs to boast about their dick is obviously an insecure needledick.

[Robstorie44]

I wonder if he drives an expensive Mercedes AMG, or something thing else to substitute for inches??

[pocket rocket]

You're a fucking spastic & a liar.

Right on the money, ColesBag, very well said !!!!

[pocket rocket]

Nope, I have hadd multiple girls complain about my size halfway through fs, unfortunately I am the problem.

Why don't you try posting some movies or pics to OnlyFans.com ? It's a website where you can post homemade amateur porn ... I understand you can make some pretty good $$$ from it, if you're any good, hung like a horse and fuck like a champion ............

And then we can all see for sure the immense prowess of your gigantic cock .........

[jandross45]

Why don't you try posting some movies or pics to OnlyFans.com ? It's a website where you can post homemade amateur porn ... I understand you can make some pretty good $$$ from it, if you're any good, hung like a horse and fuck like a champion ............

And then we can all see for sure the immense prowess of your gigantic cock .........

It's also masala flavour cuz I'm indian

[11Bravo]

Nope, I have hadd multiple girls complain about my size halfway through fs, unfortunately I am the problem.
Learn how to read a room. When she says "Oh, cannot, too big", that's a fob off to sooth your ego (the providers are VERY astute); the actual, factual translation is, "Fuck off, I don't want that nasty dick anywhere near my pussy". They use code-word subtlety to avoid bruizing your ego and thus room blow-ups. To repeat myself, they are very astute in judging character (or is that characterS?).

And rather than multiple, unquoted, 1 line SMALL counter-punches, (or maybe you're speaking to all, or just seeking to raise your cred with higher post counts - BTW, that doesn't work when it's crud), why don't you go for the KO, doing what you say:

Some new reviews coming soon...

Now I have no doubt that anyone who's spent anytime in SYD, even the occasional visitor, can find such as you mentioned, though there might be some doubt as to YOUR factual statement (for the record, I'm inclined to believe as it certainly is possible) so why don't you put up, or else, STFU.

[jandross45]

I'm getting death threats in my inbox, very sad

[yellow_sub]

I'm just a young bloke looking to have a crack in life and trying to get my ding dong played with. And I brought out all the butthurt senile boomers defending an illegal shop owner with their hooker name (candy). You bananas need a life.

Oh my friend here. Do yourself a favour, the more you bring this up the more you are reminding people you got rejected by your standard - a low life joint with illegal activities.

Stop at you want to get your enormous dick played with and share your reports with the others should be enough.

[Zoobender]

I'm getting death threats in my inbox, very sad

Post the screenshots bro. Name and shame. Death threats are serious. Linq would go to the police for less than that

[mn69]

It's also masala flavour cuz I'm indian

Bro, we were all correct about guessing that you are Indian !


I'm getting death threats in my inbox, very sad

Don't worry. Alot of the guys in this forum are most likely Old Boomer Fat Middle Aged Bald Chinese guys or Farang guys who would probably struggle for breath after throwing their first punch.

Zero threat in real life.

[11Bravo]

I'm getting death threats in my inbox, very sad

As Zoobender said, post a screenshot. Seems you're a "Law & Order" man, so report the DM to the sys-admin, get the sender banned. Threats of physical violence are terminal offenses by the posted rules. Or is this just more poor me BS?

BTW: FOAD is in the same family as "too big, cannot". Both not meant to be taken literally, both just dismissals of your presence.

[blobfish2024]

As Zoobender said, post a screenshot. Seems you're a "Law & Order" man, so report the DM to the sys-admin, get the sender banned. Threats of physical violence are terminal offenses by the posted rules. Or is this just more poor me BS?

BTW: FOAD is in the same family as "too big, cannot". Both not meant to be taken literally, both just dismissals of your presence.

It’s been 2 days since OP reply, either the death threat came true or it’s no true at all.

[jandross45]

It’s been 2 days since OP reply, either the death threat came true or it’s no true at all.

No blobfish,
It's a burner account and it has been delt with. Judging by the people that comment hear and what I've said I have a good idea who it is.
The thing is I've made some very good points about the sad pathetic boomers on this post that are dating hookers and don't want to face reality and it really upset them.
I'm overseas now and don't want to spend time replying to these losers that have no family, no friends and there only existence is to defend an illegal brothel.
Now have a good day and take those little blue pills until your superannuation runs out and that hooker that has been playing you leaves you on your ass.

[thepoonter]

Wtf happens here? Mods ban these spam posters

[iamthewalrus]

Maybe a good thing as the thread was going nowhere . Many wise men advising an immature idiot to pull his head(s) in and he continued to post his BS . Best to close this toxic thread IMO.

[rooter]

I think the random symbols were the most meaningful thing posted here. If you look at the screen sideways and squint your eyes a bit and rub your ear and twerk your nipples you can see the hidden spiritual meaning. It's Very Vedic! The Mahabarata the Baghavad Gita the Kuma Sutra its all there

[DeltaT]

I think the random symbols were the most meaningful thing posted here. If you look at the screen sideways and squint your eyes a bit and rub your ear and twerk your nipples you can see the hidden spiritual meaning. It's Very Vedic! The Mahabarata the Baghavad Gita the Kuma Sutra its all there

You’re extrapolation left out semen retention, it’s written in the script if you look closely.

[iamthewalrus]

I think the random symbols were the most meaningful thing posted here. If you look at the screen sideways and squint your eyes a bit and rub your ear and twerk your nipples you can see the hidden spiritual meaning. It's Very Vedic! The Mahabarata the Baghavad Gita the Kuma Sutra its all there

haha excellent analysis.

[11Bravo]

Well, waaaaay back at the start, the banned "forgot his name already" was complaining about Le Soleil Massage, about THEIR poor attitude. Just happened to recently visit the shop, and, of course, the Jack-Off was totally wrong.

I was familiar with the back entrance, being very familiar with Mimi. So I just used the rightmost door. Entered the shop, obviously tripped a flare, as a girl was walking down the hall to greet me, small water bottle (for me) in hand. Asked if I had a booking; Yes, Summer. Great.

Now the point of the post:
She asks me, "Upstairs or Downstairs?" Hmmm, this seems a bit premature, I was kind of hoping for a bit of foreplay first... Then I saw she was indicating a room. OK, my bad. The room looked a bit small, dark, so I said upstairs, also realizing she probably WASN'T Summer. My bad #2.

Up the stairs, nice room. As I'm waiting for Summer, I remember a post of a downstairs, under the stairs, not-prime room. So that was it. And IT suddenly hits me. The reason for the question. She, taking note of my ... ... ... maturity, POLITELY asking, in a round-about way, if I could do stairs. Actually, I was a bit hurt... then Summer entered, and all thoughts of pain disappeared... So LSM IS concerned about customer care (or perhaps liability, but I'll stay with the former).

On leaving, I wanted to give a thumbs-up (NOT a finger) to the receptionist. On entering the lobby, one thing really hit me. All the privacy cubicles with the curtained fronts. I did see a pair of feet below one, and apology to you, sir, for the first thought that came to my mind - that guys taking a dump... Swear to God, first thought. The receptionist, as I was fumbling with my phone, pointed me to a cubicle, and all I could think of was "I don't have to take a dump..."

Exited the rear door with a smile on my face. Short AR posted in the AR thread.