Buying in to a shop?

[johnny blaze]

Anyone got experience with this? Would you do it again or not worth it in your experience?

[Herpetology]

Easy to do as long as you can work with the girls

Be Professional, kind and caring


Plan the Geographical area

It is ad Unique experience for me as a mature Australian

Do not touch or play with your staff

Herps

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[CumShot]

Anyone got experience with this? Would you do it again or not worth it in your experience?

what are you hoping to achieve? As Herpies says, keep it professional.

What else could you do with your money? What's the opportunity cost of being involved in an unstable business? Are the returns spectacular? Do you have a particular skillset that can add value to the operation that the existing owner doesn't have. Do you have interstate connections to assist with a pipeline of ladies? Are you a digital marketing guru that can leverage and manage SM channels?

If the returns are so good, what's the motivation of the existing owner(s) to need you?

[johnny blaze]

What am I hoping to achieve? Same as any business venture, to make money? I don’t know if the returns are any good, that’s why I’m asking the question dumbass.

From the outside the business model doesn’t look that profitable once all outgoings are considered unless you’re skimming some off the girls tips too.

You can’t tell me any of the current shops are particularly well ran, no offence to anyone but there is frequent booking fuck ups, dirty shops, ugly girls. I could easily change things but I’m not sure if the money is there? Anyone have any input?

[Falcon2005]

What am I hoping to achieve? Same as any business venture, to make money? I don’t know if the returns are any good, that’s why I’m asking the question dumbass.

From the outside the business model doesn’t look that profitable once all outgoings are considered unless you’re skimming some off the girls tips too.

You can’t tell me any of the current shops are particularly well ran, no offence to anyone but there is frequent booking fuck ups, dirty shops, ugly girls. I could easily change things but I’m not sure if the money is there? Anyone have any input?
You asked here, some responded and you called them a dumbass ? People's motivation to go into business vary including the level of return they are going to be satisfied with.
As with any business venture it needs research in to potential market, competition, fixed costs vs variable, break even points and probably the biggest one to consider is staffing. That goes for a lot of businesses, so the question is how do you attract the good staff (not ugly) and still maintain competitive pricing etc. Really it isnt too had to set up a new shop, make it look good etc as long as it is in a good position. It comes back to management and quality of the ML's

[johnny blaze]

You asked here, some responded and you called them a dumbass ? People's motivation to go into business vary including the level of return they are going to be satisfied with.
As with any business venture it needs research in to potential market, competition, fixed costs vs variable, break even points and probably the biggest one to consider is staffing. That goes for a lot of businesses, so the question is how do you attract the good staff (not ugly) and still maintain competitive pricing etc. Really it isnt too had to set up a new shop, make it look good etc as long as it is in a good position. It comes back to management and quality of the ML's
Yeah mate, forgive me for being a bit short but all that is pretty obvious, just the basics involved with any start up. What I’m asking for is numbers, nobody seems to want to divulge those

I have an edge in finding good staff due to my current occupation, so that part will be easy for me as well as managing advertising and admin. The real question and most vital is how shops are splitting the cash to the ML’s.

[toga]

The real question and most vital is how shops are splitting the cash to the ML’s.


Depends on shop fee amount and the ML. Usually the ML receives from the hourly shop fee between $25-$35. Extras are normally kept by the girl (although I heard one shop was getting a cut from that - could be just a rumour).

[HughJorgan]

Yeah mate, forgive me for being a bit short but all that is pretty obvious, just the basics involved with any start up. What I’m asking for is numbers, nobody seems to want to divulge those

I have an edge in finding good staff due to my current occupation, so that part will be easy for me as well as managing advertising and admin. The real question and most vital is how shops are splitting the cash to the ML’s.

I doubt that there are many (If any) on here who could accurately answer your question and if they could are highly unlikely to divulge accurate information on a public forum. You probably need to do your homework and decide for yourself whether the pros outweigh the cons (Yes that could be read a couple of different ways). There certainly is a crying need for a good clean well run shop in lots of areas around Brisbane. I wouldn't get too concerned about getting pretty girls as personality and competence will generally overcome that in at least 80% of the time although you don't want downright ugly. As for splitting the cash I think a common scenario is that the shop takes the massage fee and the girls keep the extras. However I know at least one legit massage shop that charges $85 for one hour and they manage to pay staff and overheads and apparently a profit out of that so I guess there is a fair bit of room to manouvre. Even the massage shops in the major shopping centres don't charge much more than that and they usually have to pay sky high rents.

[johnny blaze]

Depends on shop fee amount and the ML. Usually the ML receives from the hourly shop fee between $25-$35. Extras are normally kept by the girl (although I heard one shop was getting a cut from that - could be just a rumour).

Yes this is what I’ve heard. Doesn’t seem profitable if the shop is only making $40/h per girl but I’ve heard of a few shops that take a cut out of tips.

I’ve seen some shops are renting out the room to the girl at a set rate per day then it’s up to her to make a profit for herself

[massage-tragic]

Yes this is what I’ve heard. Doesn’t seem profitable if the shop is only making $40/h per girl but I’ve heard of a few shops that take a cut out of tips.

I’ve seen some shops are renting out the room to the girl at a set rate per day then it’s up to her to make a profit for herself

How does the shop know how much the girl makes from tips? But I have heard of shops taking the whole shop fee and the girls only making money from tips. I don't know whether that is true but if it is no wonder they are so keen for extras! But I think it is fair to say the girls get a smaller portion of the shop massage fee than they did a few years ago.

[Bed Wrecker]

Sadly most guys think running a shop is getting first shot at new ladies and free fuck test runs.
Any shop owner who has run this way strangely doesnt get mls to stay long and they close up.

The best shops have managers that can earn 300k plus. Unless you are prepared to suck dick or take it in the puss, this wont be you.

The male manager/owners need an ml to organise, recruit and basically run the shop.

A certain 5 Star establishment has a guy who is ruthless, relentless, has good contacts and works his arse off.
This isn’t you.

[johnny blaze]

Sadly most guys think running a shop is getting first shot at new ladies and free fuck test runs.
Any shop owner who has run this way strangely doesnt get mls to stay long and they close up.

The best shops have managers that can earn 300k plus. Unless you are prepared to suck dick or take it in the puss, this wont be you.

The male manager/owners need an ml to organise, recruit and basically run the shop.

A certain 5 Star establishment has a guy who is ruthless, relentless, has good contacts and works his arse off.
This isn’t you.

Haha ok mate, whatever you reckon

[Bed Wrecker]

Haha ok mate, whatever you reckon
For someone who wants to ask a genuine question you are being a real dick in replies
Theres tons of money in shop ownership but you seem clueless to figure it out and given your replies, anyone willing will just tell you to go fuck yourself.

[johnny blaze]

For someone who wants to ask a genuine question you are being a real dick in replies
Theres tons of money in shop ownership but you seem clueless to figure it out and given your replies, anyone willing will just tell you to go fuck yourself.
Mate you’re the one who came in here trying to throw jabs, don’t be upset when you get a bit back. I’m open to any constructive feedback you have.

I have been contacted by a few helpful members here and I greatly appreciate their input, I have some meetings to attend once I’m back in Queensland.

[johnny blaze]

I might give you tips but not accurate, used have a shop before short time. For me? Not really great experience.

1. Hard to find good ML without 5~7 customers regularly visiting each ML, if you have 3 MLs daily running, at least 15~20 customers regularly visiting daily. Without regular customers its very hard to keep the Good ML. Actually finding ML isn’t hard, keep them working is hard.

2. If its small shop owner should have to be Female, people guys normally not really happy with answering the phone by male voice. If its busy shop could able to run reception lady or manager but not really budget left after all outgoing deduct.

3. Owner never takes MLs tips in my experience even single $$$. Hourly fee divided approx half owner and ML.

15~20 regular customers daily visit venues normally making $5~600 daily with outgoing but the thing is that kind of busy shop never sell the business I guess.

Some good guy runs business very well but he has a strong source of ML from legit brothel.


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Thanks mate for your input. Yes this is more in line with the numbers I was working out.