Ginza expanding?

[aussiegaigin]

Noticed an article in newspaper the other day that Ginza had acquired a further 2 adjacent properties in Cleveland St and had applied to council for DA to expand facilities. There were the usual objections due to being close to schools, etc.

[Wayne]

There’s been a stink stirred up by a local Surry Hills resident against it. But I reckon Clover will ok it. Good for the local economy. And what other business wants to operate on Cleveland Street? Seems sex, food and alcohol are the only businesses that still make money in the old bricks and mortar shops.

[themort]

There’s been a stink stirred up by a local Surry Hills resident against it. But I reckon Clover will ok it. Good for the local economy. And what other business wants to operate on Cleveland Street? Seems sex, food and alcohol are the only businesses that still make money in the old bricks and mortar shops.

I used to live in an apartment that backed onto the Alley where you get into Ginza and I have to admit I've never been ;)

[ditchtheboss]

I used to live in an apartment that backed onto the Alley where you get into Ginza and I have to admit I've never been ;)

You know, when I go to either of the Ginza shops I often think how often I would punt if I lived there. I must confess I recently inspected an apartment walking distance to empire. Got to be objective about it and think with the right head

[ColesBag]

There has been a stink by the local mosque. LOL.

[themort]

There has been a stink by the local mosque. LOL.

Yeah they can fuck off and have their 9 year olds.

[Roydemeo]

Members of a Sydney mosque have hit out over expansion plans by a nearby brothel amid fears it will have a detrimental “moral and ethical” impact on the community.
The Redfern Mosque is on the warpath with Surry Hills massage parlour The Ginza Club over its proposal to more than double the capacity for clients attending the venue.
Plans for the Cleveland St brothel show two adjacent heritage terraces would be converted into sex service rooms, boosting its capacity from nine to 19 rooms
Hank Evecek – treasurer of the Redfern Islamic Society and Redfern Mosque, located 45m from the brothel – believes the development is “morally and ethically” incompatible with the local streetscape.
“It’s a big concern because we already see a lot of men sitting in cars waiting for their time to get into the brothel and activity in backstreets with people coming and going,” he said.
We have women and children attending the mosque that have to walk past the brothel and we don’t know what kind of people that are going in and out of that premises.
“We have young boys that might get curious about what’s happening in the building and that’s a concern as well.

“It’s incompatible with our culture and morals.”
Mosque member Ergul Uybadin said the brothel expansion could have particular impacts during the holy month of Ramadan which sees religious activities held at the mosque during night-time periods.
During Ramadan we finish our final prayer at 10pm and when we leave it’s the same time that people are coming in and out of the brothel,” she said.
“There’s probably a need for it in the community but why does it have to be so close to our building?”
Julie Bates, a planning representative for the brothel, defended the proposal and rejected suggestions the expansion would be detrimental to the local area.
Ms Bates – speaking at a meeting held by the City of Sydney Council to discuss the plans – said brothel staff and clients would be indistinguishable from other members of the general public because they “want to protect their privacy and safety.”
“From the exterior, the development looks like nothing other than a normal residence and there will be nothing there to identify it as a brothel,” she said.
“It will have no adverse effects on the area.”
Ms Bates further noted the NSW Government had decriminalised prostitution and the City of Sydney Council was now conducting fewer random compliance checks on the industry.
But not all local residents are convinced of the merits of the expansion with the council receiving multiple submissions from residents opposing the plans due to issues including parking congestion, noise and the brothel’s proximity to Inner Sydney High School.

One resident said the development risked turning Surry Hills into a “red light district” akin to Kings Cross.
Resident Cameron Sangster said neighbours were already enduring parking congestion and noise impacts from the brothel including the sound of washing machines running at the site for 14 hours a day.
Despite their objections, the City of Sydney Local Planning voted to support the development at a meeting last week after finding it was located in an area with a “broad mix of commercial uses”.

Ms Uybadin said members of the mosque had been left “disappointed” by the decision but have convened a meeting with nearby homeowners this week to discuss any further avenues they could take to challenge the approval.

[Roydemeo]

Fucken towelheads, whores have been getting put away in Surry Hills since the 1800’s if it’s incompatible with your culture fuck off back to your war zones and pray there.

[hornedbeast]

We welcome an expansion to Ginza Club HQ Branch. A great economic boost to Surry Hill's.

[hadog]

Half the commercial buildings in that section of Cleveland street are empty, and they have a cry about washing machines running for 14hrs. FFS. Plus pretty sure with the call to prayer that happens 5 times a day is more annoying that a fat dude huffing for 30 secs or a dude sitting in a car.

[holi_day]

I am only hoping Ginza to update their rooms. Especially in GC, just a bit too old and worn.

[hornedbeast]

As if you could hear the washing machines over the semi trailers and buses on Cleveland Street. The alleyway out the back (aka 'Bald Cunt Alley') has never been an oil painting - used more often by drunks for a piss.

[themort]

“It’s incompatible with our culture and morals.”

Sorry to hear it - off you fuck to a country that has your proper morals, like raping children and stoning rape victims while the perpetrators walk free.

Nobody is forcing you to enter - so bog off and look in your own backyard.

Anyway as I said I lived in the back alley which was rear entrance to 3 different brothels, I never heard a thing, and it was rare to see a guy sheepishly walking up there.

My Mrs and I would make bets on a guy going in there while we were driving up the alley to get to our car park. The only sad part was during COVID when it was very obvious there were girls cooped up in there.

[Wank_Somemore]

Fuck they're annoying hypocrites. We can't say Merry Christmas in workplaces and anything related to Jesus Christ. Yet they can parade the office with their Ramadan bullshit. Before I was made redundant, they even had the balls to tell me they would be slow at work because they were fasting.

[personaa]

They are concerned? How about questioning their own morals of being able to marry 4 women at once. Yeah sure!

[tezzaman18]

Whilst unlawful under our Marriage Act to some morals is not an issue as their Holy Quran permits polygamy (obviously subject to stipulated conditions). These women who accept this arrangement may not need to work to survive many thanks to the Centrelink single mothers pension. And the man is only too happy to house them all under one roof!!!!!!!


They are concerned? How about questioning their own morals of being able to marry 4 women at once. Yeah sure!

[CantCme]

Ginza should hire some goats... why not tap into the towelhead market

[hornedbeast]

Fuck they're annoying hypocrites. We can't say Merry Christmas in workplaces and anything related to Jesus Christ. Yet they can parade the office with their Ramadan bullshit. Before I was made redundant, they even had the balls to tell me they would be slow at work because they were fasting.

I'm sure your employer didn't have the balls to make them redundant

[Roydemeo]

Ginza should hire some goats... why not tap into the towelhead market

Goatza Club & Goatza Empire.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Oh look - the “religion of peace” is at it again!

Cancer on the world

[JJBlows]

They already took rae lil black from us, their not gonna take ginza as well.

[Bunningsnag]

Fuck they're annoying hypocrites. We can't say Merry Christmas in workplaces and anything related to Jesus Christ. Yet they can parade the office with their Ramadan bullshit. Before I was made redundant, they even had the balls to tell me they would be slow at work because they were fasting.

You can’t say Merry Xmas at work ? Or mention anything about Jesus ? Where on earth are you working where you can’t do that ? There is no workplace that doesn’t allow you say Merry Xmas.

[Wayne]

There is something called Nikah mut'ah in Islam. I have pasted the wikipedia entry on it below. A mosque complaining about the presence of a brothel reeks of hypocrisy. But then, religion is just another word for exerting power over others.

Nikah mut'ah Arabic: نكاح المتعة, romanized: nikāḥ al-mutʿah, "pleasure marriage"; temporary marriage: 1045  or Sigheh (Persian: صیغه ، ازدواج موقت) is a private and verbal temporary marriage contract that is practiced in Islam in which the duration of the marriage and the mahr must be specified and agreed upon in advance  It is a private contract made in a verbal or written format. A declaration of the intent to marry and an acceptance of the terms are required as in other forms of marriage in Islam.

[HitNMiss]

Don’t understand why they say the boys/men will get curious to go . I’ve been to places where whole groups of Muslim men come together and punt like a boys night out .

[MrPB]

Whilst I disagree with the racist comments here, I do support the development of Ginza as subjectively, it supports me and the people of this forum.

Objectively, I can see the perspective of the some of the residents, but would like to remind them the context and landscape of Surry Hills, that is to be an entertainment district.

[crhaayn]

I just hope Ginza Club retains the way they house the girls during their shift. Giving girls their own room for the entire shift, I think, works out so well for us punters. I've had so many sessions start out with DFK and plenty of groping after knocking on their doors. And no awkward waiting in the rooms.

[Icegodofhungary]

Most religions include generous servings of ignorance, lies and hypocrisy. While it no surprise that a religious organisation or individuals are objecting to this expansion with little basis, let’s face it, if it was a church, synagogue or temple a few doors down instead of a mosque, you’d have that group leading the objections instead.

So it’s not unreasonable to rail against religious hypocrisy and ignorance in general, but it’s a pity people have to be racist pricks about it.

[Icegodofhungary]

They already took rae lil black from us, their not gonna take ginza as well.

Yeah, hopefully she'll come to her senses soon and realise that porn has a more noble history than most religions.

[HiredGoon]

Don’t understand why they say the boys/men will get curious to go . I’ve been to places where whole groups of Muslim men come together and punt like a boys night out .

Kinda weird that you talked to dudes about their religion in a brothel.

[woolynight]

You know, when I go to either of the Ginza shops I often think how often I would punt if I lived there. I must confess I recently inspected an apartment walking distance to empire. Got to be objective about it and think with the right head

If you looking for flatmates let us know lol

[Daysgone]

I just hope Ginza Club retains the way they house the girls during their shift. Giving girls their own room for the entire shift, I think, works out so well for us punters. I've had so many sessions start out with DFK and plenty of groping after knocking on their doors. And no awkward waiting in the rooms.

I also think its a great system currently. Workers having their own rooms gives the business more incentive to keep the rooms clean and tidy, keeping the workers and customers happier. I wonder if its comparable to having your own office (albeit hot-desking) in the business world.

[ChadThunderrcock]

There has been a stink by the local mosque. LOL.

There’s been a stink stirred up by a local Surry Hills resident against it. But I reckon Clover will ok it. Good for the local economy. And what other business wants to operate on Cleveland Street? Seems sex, food and alcohol are the only businesses that still make money in the old bricks and mortar shops.

What if all the people opposing this is our Indian bro's who are sour & mad about all the "No Indian" girls that they can't see lol

[crhaayn]

I also think its a great system currently. Workers having their own rooms gives the business more incentive to keep the rooms clean and tidy, keeping the workers and customers happier. I wonder if its comparable to having your own office (albeit hot-desking) in the business world.

Yeah that's a good point. Ginza's 278 shop has a number of broken beds in their rooms (sunken in the middle) and I feel like if a girl was made responsible for their room, they'd be more inclined to report any issues back up to management. Ginza 310 definitely has that vibe where the rooms feel nicely maintained.

[JJBlows]

Yeah, hopefully she'll come to her senses soon and realise that porn has a more noble history than most religions.

Classic female convert story, she had a guy she really likes get in her ear about converting to Islam and she did it for/because of him.

[Obama]

Yeah that's a good point. Ginza's 278 shop has a number of broken beds in their rooms (sunken in the middle) and I feel like if a girl was made responsible for their room, they'd be more inclined to report any issues back up to management. Ginza 310 definitely has that vibe where the rooms feel nicely maintained.

Yes, very true.
Some of the beds are past their use by date well and truly.
And some simply aren't designed for sex.

There is one bed in a room down the opposite corridor from Rm 7 (can't think of the #) which has or had a wooden frame extending 5+cm out which dug into your shins when in standing doggy!

[crhaayn]

There is one bed in a room down the opposite corridor from Rm 7 (can't think of the #) which has or had a wooden frame extending 5+cm out which dug into your shins when in standing doggy!

Worker's comp for the girls!