Inflation - ridiculous 😞

[Misohappy]

Anyone noticed privates are charging ridiculous rates these days? Even Milfs I know that have been working for 10 years who used to charge 200-250 an hour back in their prime are raising rates to $350.

Also I met a brazilian in a massage parlour the other day and paid her 70+200 for FS - wasnt bad and after the deed she told me she works private but had to do a few shifts at the parlour because it was so quiet and she was running out of money.
I asked how much she charged private and she said $450 an hr 😅 - after I just fucked her for $270 🤣

Honestly - dont these girls know Australia is tough these days 😅

[local]

Anyone noticed privates are charging ridiculous rates these days? Even Milfs I know that have been working for 10 years who used to charge 200-250 an hour back in their prime are raising rates to $350.

Also I met a brazilian in a massage parlour the other day and paid her 70+200 for FS - wasnt bad and after the deed she told me she works private but had to do a few shifts at the parlour because it was so quiet and she was running out of money.
I asked how much she charged private and she said $450 an hr 😅 - after I just fucked her for $270 🤣

Honestly - dont these girls know Australia is tough these days 😅

This shows you how lacking in business acumen these ladies are.

The supply and command curves will show the best selling point, but they just have no idea.

I was asked by a very old friend to check their pricing a few weeks ago and after going thru their books was able to reprice a few things. With a week not only was their turnover up, but so was their profit.

Apply same to private ladies working and the harder times now and ahead, $450 is generally too high especially if they run with plus for every little thing so a minimum session might be $600 for a client, who will look around for cheaper.

Yes your Brazillian dropped more than the difference because she only got a part of that $270 and still has her private overheads not being covered....

[Pattyherb]

Offer them 170 fs as that how much a brothel charges and that's on the books. If they say no, walk out the door. Everyone needs to do it amd we can collectively being prices down

[badone]

in tough times,
yet if we keep paying , they will keep putting the price up.
Ginza now a lot of girls over $300
NHJ - normally $50 some want $70 or more .

guys that then add tips on top of this force the price up because they know they can get it .

stick to a plan , if we all pay / offer the same prices will come down.

[GoldfishMan]

That's why I've effectively quit punting. It's easy to quit. Each time I prevent myself from punting, I'm "earning" the same amount I would've paid for the punt in NET income.

Meaning on a $300 1hr punt, I would've paid myself $500+ (this depends on your tax bracket, obviously) simply by NOT going for it. If you really do make $500 /hr, good on you, go for it. But how many of us actually do?

It's a ridiculous amount of money to be spending just to get your rocks off.

[ChadThunderrcock]

This shows you how lacking in business acumen these ladies are.

The supply and command curves will show the best selling point, but they just have no idea.

I was asked by a very old friend to check their pricing a few weeks ago and after going thru their books was able to reprice a few things. With a week not only was their turnover up, but so was their profit.

Apply same to private ladies working and the harder times now and ahead, $450 is generally too high especially if they run with plus for every little thing so a minimum session might be $600 for a client, who will look around for cheaper.

Yes your Brazillian dropped more than the difference because she only got a part of that $270 and still has her private overheads not being covered....

These ladies don't exactly have the brains of Elon Musk, so there will be no business acumen

Few of the ML's I see was charging more for the same extras. Her reasoning: She needs to make up for loss of income as theres is not as much customers in these current times

These ladies go against Business logic. If there is less customer's. They will jack the prices up, instead of giving discounts or better prices.

[woodland]

if you offer $300 on scarlet blue when all the other ladies are offering $800, then you attract the bad apples.

WLs are not really interested in more jobs, so its not a simple supply demand thing for them
its not like selling lemonade at a lemonade stand.

[ChadThunderrcock]

if you offer $300 on scarlet blue when all the other ladies are offering $800, then you attract the bad apples.

WLs are not really interested in more jobs, so its not a simple supply demand thing for them
its not like selling lemonade at a lemonade stand.

So basically their higher price point at $800 is to exclude all the low class cheap Charlie bogan clients

So that they will only attract the upmarket upper class wealthy clientele.

And hopefully just need to see 1 client. Rather than 3 clients for the same amount of money

[Hedonisticfun]

Anyone noticed privates are charging ridiculous rates these days? Even Milfs I know that have been working for 10 years who used to charge 200-250 an hour back in their prime are raising rates to $350.

Also I met a brazilian in a massage parlour the other day and paid her 70+200 for FS - wasnt bad and after the deed she told me she works private but had to do a few shifts at the parlour because it was so quiet and she was running out of money.
I asked how much she charged private and she said $450 an hr 😅 - after I just fucked her for $270 🤣

Honestly - dont these girls know Australia is tough these days 😅

Honestly.. don't these girls know Australia is tough these days ??? WTF !!! Tough in every other fkn country too . Girls gotta pay rent , food , expenses just like punters doing it tough are . Punting is a luxury when you get down to it , its business for the girls .. ask your boss for raise and see how you go instead of pricing girls down

[Hedonisticfun]

Offer them 170 fs as that how much a brothel charges and that's on the books. If they say no, walk out the door. Everyone needs to do it amd we can collectively being prices down

Yeah let's all do that and drive the prices down , let's apply that to fuel , groceries , rent , housing as well . Fkn great idea

[ChadThunderrcock]

Honestly.. don't these girls know Australia is tough these days ??? WTF !!! Tough in every other fkn country too . Girls gotta pay rent , food , expenses just like punters doing it tough are . Punting is a luxury when you get down to it , its business for the girls .. ask your boss for raise and see how you go instead of pricing girls down

I would say that us Punters are still doing better than any of these girls. Even if we don't realize it.

If you can afford the luxury to punt in these "tough" economic times, then you're still doing well in my books. Whereas these girls are doing it to make money to pay their rent, food, debt & so on.

[Hedonisticfun]

So basically their higher price point at $800 is to exclude all the low class cheap Charlie bogan clients

So that they will only attract the upmarket upper class wealthy clientele.

And hopefully just need to see 1 client. Rather than 3 clients for the same amount of money

Exactly.. most Asians will do quantity hence cheaper prices in brothels and massage parlours for extras whilst higher priced escorts are only looking at limited numbers with wealthier clients .
Low class cheap Charlie bogans .. how many here crow about the bargain they got driving down the price with the girls

[Hedonisticfun]

That's why I've effectively quit punting. It's easy to quit. Each time I prevent myself from punting, I'm "earning" the same amount I would've paid for the punt in NET income.

Meaning on a $300 1hr punt, I would've paid myself $500+ (this depends on your tax bracket, obviously) simply by NOT going for it. If you really do make $500 /hr, good on you, go for it. But how many of us actually do?

It's a ridiculous amount of money to be spending just to get your rocks off.

Punting has always been a luxury..simple case of you if haven't got the money to waste you can't enjoy the hobby

[banong]

It's time to reach out to Miss Palmer for some assistance

[GoldfishMan]

It's time to reach out to Miss Palmer for some assistance

You can pay "her" $300 each time "she" helps prevent you from punting, lol

[Supersmashbros]

It's time to reach out to Miss Palmer for some assistance

I read this yesterday. Didn't get it until now lol

[ironmonk]

Few of the ML's I see was charging more for the same extras. Her reasoning: She needs to make up for loss of income as theres is not as much customers in these current times


Probably due to lifestyle creep, and not willing to budge on their end when income starts drying up. Hence charging higher rates.

[Hedonisticfun]

Probably due to lifestyle creep, and not willing to budge on their end when income starts drying up. Hence charging higher rates.

Simple economics and pure business sense .. if punters are finding it difficult to fund their hobby / luxury then WLs / MLs that are doing it as a business are surely going to raise their prices just like every other industry

[ironmonk]

Simple economics and pure business sense .. if punters are finding it difficult to fund their hobby / luxury then WLs / MLs that are doing it as a business are surely going to raise their prices just like every other industry

Raise prices vs improve OFFER - which is the more viable?

Like trying to make all your money on the frontend. Doesn't sound like pure business sense to me...

[chemistry84]

Expecting a few shops and girls to either leave or close up. Plenty of massage shops definitely on the quiet side now and you'd get girls messaging you 'when you coming to me see me babe?' etc.

FS (200) in a massage shop on top of the massage fee (50) is just not worth it.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Probably due to lifestyle creep, and not willing to budge on their end when income starts drying up. Hence charging higher rates.

Simple economics and pure business sense .. if punters are finding it difficult to fund their hobby / luxury then WLs / MLs that are doing it as a business are surely going to raise their prices just like every other industry

Raise prices vs improve OFFER - which is the more viable?

Like trying to make all your money on the frontend. Doesn't sound like pure business sense to me...

Jacking up prices for same services because there is less customers goes against the Laws of Supply & Demand.

I'm not a Cheap-Charlie. I'm happy to pay more if I am getting more for the money. Like increase time with her or improved services. But I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I am getting charged more for same services to make up for the loss of income due to her getting less customers.

Agree. For us punters. Punting is a luxury. Just like being able to travel or play golf. Not a necessity to survive.

But for these girls, working as a ML/WL and making money is a matter of their survival

[11Bravo]

Honestly.. don't these girls know Australia is tough these days ??? WTF !!! Tough in every other fkn country too . Girls gotta pay rent , food , expenses just like punters doing it tough are . Punting is a luxury when you get down to it , its business for the girls .. ask your boss for raise and see how you go instead of pricing girls down
Simple economics and pure business sense .. if punters are finding it difficult to fund their hobby / luxury then WLs / MLs that are doing it as a business are surely going to raise their prices just like every other industry
I would say that us Punters are still doing better than any of these girls. Even if we don't realize it.

If you can afford the luxury to punt in these "tough" economic times, then you're still doing well in my books. Whereas these girls are doing it to make money to pay their rent, food, debt & so on.

Agree. For us punters. Punting is a luxury. Just like being able to travel or play golf. Not a necessity to survive.

But for these girls, working as a ML/WL and making money is a matter of their survival

As said above, the providers aren't doing this as a hobby, it's their livelihood. It's not yours.

And how many of you (2nd person plural) have asked your company for a salary/hours cut so that the company can remain competitive in this environment? How many of the independent contractors have lowered their rates, absorbing their rising costs, to help their clients? Always amusing to me how it's always the fault of those sneaky, conniving, scheming harlots that are to blame for our troubles. They should cut their income so we can increase ours by sending less on luxuries...

[Pattyherb]

As said above, the providers aren't doing this as a hobby, it's their livelihood. It's not yours.

And how many of you (2nd person plural) have asked your company for a salary/hours cut so that the company can remain competitive in this environment? How many of the independent contractors have lowered their rates, absorbing their rising costs, to help their clients? Always amusing to me how it's always the fault of those sneaky, conniving, scheming harlots that are to blame for our troubles. They should cut their income so we can increase ours by sending less on luxuries...

Holy fkn shit ������������

You're right bro. Go hand over your entire superannuation, they deserve it more than you.

[11Bravo]

I'm , I've seen a number of recessions, a number of price increases, both general and individual. It's life.

MY solution is simple. I KNOW what her experience is worth to ME that day. If I can [i]get it for that, or lower, I do. If not, I just say "No thank you". IF she makes a counter-offer, I apply the same logic. I don't whine, berate her, complain. She has her floor, I have my ceiling. I know what her experience is worth to me, she knows what my experience is worth to her. It's just business.

I will also say that being a REGULAR customer does have value to her. A regular, steady income that she can count on, has a much higher cost in losing. Much more of an anchor to existing rates. Plus, you're known.

[Niceguy11]

I'm , I've seen a number of recessions, a number of price increases, both general and individual. It's life.

MY solution is simple. I KNOW what her experience is worth to ME that day. If I can [i]get it for that, or lower, I do. If not, I just say "No thank you". IF she makes a counter-offer, I apply the same logic. I don't whine, berate her, complain. She has her floor, I have my ceiling. I know what her experience is worth to me, she knows what my experience is worth to her. It's just business.

I will also say that being a REGULAR customer does have value to her. A regular, steady income that she can count on, has a much higher cost in losing. Much more of an anchor to existing rates. Plus, you're known.

That is why some privates in Melbourne have 5 or so clients and that's it. Regulars make it easy for a WL and punters.

[11Bravo]

Distinguishing a general vs individual price hike:

If I contact a regular for a booking and she's busy, OK. If she's busy every time I contact her, she's moved upmarket and her floor is higher than my ceiling. That's an individual price hike.

Now if that happens with more than 3 of my regulars, that's a general price hike.

In any case, it's my choice to apply my logic: how much is her experience worth to me?




Holy fkn shit ������������

You're right bro. Go hand over your entire superannuation, they deserve it more than you.

I just view any OTT price quote as a "doesn't hurt to ask", just like I'm free to politely decline. I just don't whine about it.

[Hedonisticfun]

Raise prices vs improve OFFER - which is the more viable?

Like trying to make all your money on the frontend. Doesn't sound like pure business sense to me...

Raise prices vs improve OFFER ... how many other businesses have raised their prices without ANY change in service , quality or quantity. You want , you pay

[Hedonisticfun]

Expecting a few shops and girls to either leave or close up. Plenty of massage shops definitely on the quiet side now and you'd get girls messaging you 'when you coming to me see me babe?' etc.

FS (200) in a massage shop on top of the massage fee (50) is just not worth it.

' not worth it ' ... haha only got back into the punting scene about 8 years ago . Was surprised the $20 brothel girl found in any brothel in the 1980s had gone up to $250-$300 , escorts $500-$800. What's a punt worth ? What's a house worth ? Just not worth it haha

[11Bravo]

You want , you pay
Indeed... That's why I never compare now and then, or here and there. It's either worth it to you, or it's not. Simple.

[Hedonisticfun]

I'm , I've seen a number of recessions, a number of price increases, both general and individual. It's life.

MY solution is simple. I KNOW what her experience is worth to ME that day. If I can [i]get it for that, or lower, I do. If not, I just say "No thank you". IF she makes a counter-offer, I apply the same logic. I don't whine, berate her, complain. She has her floor, I have my ceiling. I know what her experience is worth to me, she knows what my experience is worth to her. It's just business.

I will also say that being a REGULAR customer does have value to her. A regular, steady income that she can count on, has a much higher cost in losing. Much more of an anchor to existing rates. Plus, you're known.

Well commented ! Bravo 11Bravo 👏 I've only been punting again in the last 8 years after a hiatus of some 30 years . In my mid 60s and the last 2 years I have really been giving it a burl MLs and WLs . Last week I did a sleepover ($5k) with a regular different from one I've done with 3 times . Wasn't as good and probably won't do again but will do sessions with her again . This week did a session with a regular and have organised a sleepover with her in a fortnight. Next day saw a regular ML and a day later , a threesome at a massage parlour. Service standards vary even I lose a bit of enthusiasm but overall I keep them happy like they keep me happy and though I have tried elsewhere , I keep these as regulars as I satisfied and content (AND drained haha)

[tito.mcgiver]

Indeed... That's why I never compare now and then, or here and there. It's either worth it to you, or it's not. Simple.


Well said brother.

From what other brothers seem to complain or whinge is how out of controls the finances have become not only from the client level but also the WL level.

Pre covid, I could indulge in many delicacies of this world; now, my circumstances are different and not complaining but simply not able to afford them.

I can still now and then indulge on those as a little reward to myself. Times have changed.

[personaa]

Prices are ridiculous. Has anyone noticed how Chinese girls are now charging high premiums? Couple of years ago J girls used to be the most expensive punts but things have completely changed. Chinese are now minimum 220 for 30 min and 320-330 for an hour and J girls are averaging 170-190 with some like Mizuha at 230/30 min (Seen her and definitely not worth it). These are prices from 42G and No5.

Now, as a single man with no kids and almost cleared of my mortgage I can afford these rates but I can't get my wallet to pay, it gives me a feeling of being robbed or taken for a ryde. I almost quit punting as well ,maybe once every 4-6 weeks. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[schloong]

Yeah I hear you mate.

I'm comfortable enough but hate being ripped off, so therefore keep my punting restricted to my regular and only occasionally venturing out to other places...

[Misohappy]

Honestly.. don't these girls know Australia is tough these days ??? WTF !!! Tough in every other fkn country too . Girls gotta pay rent , food , expenses just like punters doing it tough are . Punting is a luxury when you get down to it , its business for the girls .. ask your boss for raise and see how you go instead of pricing girls down

I asked my boss for a raise already - it went pretty good actually 😁 - with the extra money they give me, I'll be putting in extra effort to grow their revenue and save them costs by taking on additional responsibilities and help increase efficiency with automation - saving them money and giving them good ROI for investing in me in these difficult times.

Too many WLs these days are completely clueless and ignorant. Expect more money while giving less service - they can go take a hike 🤣😅

And please spare me the "working ladies do it tough too talk" - they actually do better financially than 90% of punters 😅 - I've dated a couple parlour owners and MLs, if only you knew how they really think of us 🤣

[ChadThunderrcock]

Too many WLs these days are completely clueless and ignorant. Expect more money while giving less service - they can go take a hike 🤣😅

And please spare me the "working ladies do it tough too talk" - they actually do better financially than 90% of punters 😅 - I've dated a couple parlour owners and MLs, if only you knew how they really think of us 🤣

These girls have to hustle and make as much money as possible in a short amount of time. They have a short shelf life. Once they get old, they will get less customers & have to compete with the younger girls.

They don't pay tax. Its the only financial advantage they have over punters.

Alot of WL's/ML's look down on most punters, especially the older, fatter, uglier guys. They think of them as "losers" who can't get girls the normal way & have to pay for it.

[chemistry84]

' not worth it ' ... haha only got back into the punting scene about 8 years ago . Was surprised the $20 brothel girl found in any brothel in the 1980s had gone up to $250-$300 , escorts $500-$800. What's a punt worth ? What's a house worth ? Just not worth it haha

Definitely not worth it at a massage shop but value still is decent at proper broths though.

[pmmeyourknee_]

Surprised seeing many men here prefer regulars.

I get that it’s beneficial for the ladies, but for us? Not so sure.
- Consistent service = I already know what to expect. I wouldn't want to jerk off to the same porn video every time. I would search for a new vid.
- Don't fall in love, they're just working. Falling in love with these ladies = falling in love with a cashier that smiles at you.

For me, the fun part of punting is the excitement — wondering what kind of lady I’ll meet. I enjoy seeing different girls with different looks and personalities. Some good, few bad, some amazing. Repeat the amazing ones 2-3x max until the excitement wears off and move on. The best part is there's always new girls & variety.

[11Bravo]

Definitely not worth it at a massage shop but value still is decent at proper broths though.
I think value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Iphone or android? Desktop or notebook? Windows/Mac/Linux? Inside dining in a restaurant with ambiance, tablecloths; or take-away, sitting outside on a bench, watching the passing parade? Or taking the take-away to your favorite harbor overlook? A bottle of house wine with your Italian meal, or a branded vintage? Sushi at a proper sushi bar or Sushi hub? Which are the best values?

Old saying: a cynic knows the price of everything, the value of nothing (NO disrespect to anyone). Einstein was correct: it's all relative to YOUR point of view.



Surprised seeing many men here prefer regulars.

I get that it’s beneficial for the ladies, but for us? Not so sure.
- Consistent service = I already know what to expect. I wouldn't want to jerk off to the same porn video every time. I would search for a new vid.
- Don't fall in love, they're just working. Falling in love with these ladies = falling in love with a cashier that smiles at you.

For me, the fun part of punting is the excitement — wondering what kind of lady I’ll meet. I enjoy seeing different girls with different looks and personalities. Some good, few bad, some amazing. Repeat the amazing ones 2-3x max until the excitement wears off and move on. The best part is there's always new girls & variety.
You're on a deadline to finish punting?

Variety can be had by mixing up regulars. Nothing about "love"; you just don't have to start from zero every time. And there's always time to scout for some to join the pitching rotation. IME they ALL have the same basic equipment; I DON'T want any surprises THERE. I enjoy meeting old buddies for a drink, catching up; I also enjoy shooting-the-shit with the stranger sitting on the next bar stool (BG7 RIP).

In both of the above quotes, it's whatever works for YOU. MP or brothel/regulars or new. There is no right answer.

[Hedonisticfun]

Surprised seeing many men here prefer regulars.

I get that it’s beneficial for the ladies, but for us? Not so sure.
- Consistent service = I already know what to expect. I wouldn't want to jerk off to the same porn video every time. I would search for a new vid.
- Don't fall in love, they're just working. Falling in love with these ladies = falling in love with a cashier that smiles at you.

For me, the fun part of punting is the excitement — wondering what kind of lady I’ll meet. I enjoy seeing different girls with different looks and personalities. Some good, few bad, some amazing. Repeat the amazing ones 2-3x max until the excitement wears off and move on. The best part is there's always new girls & variety.

Consistent service .. same porn video every time . Depends on your perspective . I like the consistent STANDARD of service I receive , I don*t have to second guess whether she will be a dud or not and consequently that applies to money spent. In addition to same porn video , I have a collection of fillies so as not to get bored with one . Occassionally do play the field but have been more disappointed than adding to the stable , better to punt with a guranteed service AND love has nothing to do with it , but respect and admiration does and DOES pay dividends .