Booked an Hour at 888, Lost 5 Minutes to Shower — Fair or Not?

[DucatiBoy]

Had a small thing happen today that got me thinking — just wanted to hear your thoughts on it.

I had a booking with Sugar today at 2:00 PM. I arrived a few minutes early and was brought into the room right on time. Paid, took a quick shower, then the service started.

I don’t usually check the time, but this time I happened to glance at my phone right before the service began — it was around 2:08. The session ended at exactly 3:00.

So even though I booked 60 minutes, I only got about 52–55 minutes of actual service after the shower.

Just wondering — is this normal?

Does shower time usually count as part of the session?

Or are there places where the clock starts after the shower?

Would be good to hear others’ experiences or how this is typically handled.

[Who Killed Tangerine]

Clock starts when shes ready for session as far as Im concerned.
If shes ready at 2pm and you are having a shower, thats too bad. 1 hour finishes at 3pm

If shes off having a shower, going to the toilet, grabbing a bite to eat, yapping with someone else and she doesnt come in to the room until 2:08 pm, thats when the hour starts. If she has a 3pm booking, too bad. I get an hour.

If you want to have a shower, do it in your own time or accept you are using her time.
You can ask her to wash you at 200pm

[nosha]

I always wondered about this as well, I think it shouldn't be counted. You doing them a favour, being freshly showered before booking. The time should start, when the massage starts.

[Kingpoo]

If I need a shower, i just arrive early. If they start the timer on when the massage starts, it will affect their next booking and they try to be on time.
The most lenient and generous with time I have experienced is with Krystal from TT Nundah. Went over time and no rush at all.

[Who Killed Tangerine]

I always wondered about this as well, I think it shouldn't be counted. You doing them a favour, being freshly showered before booking. The time should start, when the massage starts.

Where does this end?
You booked at eg 2.
I have to take a dump. Have my lunch before we start session. Better go back home and feed the cat first too.
Start time is 2 and the ml is ready, thats when the time starts. If you are brushing your teeth, learning a foreign language, polishing your shoes…..too bad.

Now if the lady isnt ready and you are, thats a different story.
You book at a certain time and shes ready, then the clock has begun.

Want to shower, get there early.

[iamking]

You should have a shower pre appointment. If you book at 2pm, then either take one at home or arrive early, take a shower and see the ML at 2pm exactly. Don't pay before the shower. If the ML showers at 2pm then either start the session when she enters the room at 2.08pm for 60 minutes, but be very clear about it, or change it to 45 minutes, again be clear about it. Different shops and girls have rules. Most of the time the ML will be flexible and apologetic from my experience, as long as you're not being rude or aggressive about it. Some owners don't give the girls enough time between customers, and I definitely want my ML to be clean for my session. Communication is the key.

[thunder545454]

If you want to shower prior that should included in your 1 hour of time.

That said on subject of time these girls are too greedy, they book guys up back to back to back without breaks, then they try to steal time to make up for it.

We have all had a girl go to get change or whatever and disappear for 5minutes ive had them wander off, then come back with no change and I ask where is my change oh right wanders back off, like what was she doing for 5 minutes then? probably eating or on her phone.

Me I don't care too much about time seems like focusing on the wrong thing, I more care about the service, if they do a great job sucking the soul out of me, I am happy to fuck off 5 or 10mins early, I don't want to hug them or get a head massage, once I nut I want to quickly move onto doing other shit with my day.

[harry444]

The shower can be viewed as part of the service provided, so is a part of the one hour service. I always shower before. Often asked I want a shower, but decline. However out of respect to girl, not a bad idea. Anyway, get over it, it's only 5 mind

[Bluetea]

Let’s be real—no one’s sweating a couple of minutes. It’s all about the service, the looks, and the vibe she gives off

[Chopper007]

If you make a booking at 2, the clock starts at 2, the girls may be a couple of minutes late, you may be a couple of minutes late. It's not hard to understand. Let me ask you this one, what about all the times customers are 10,15 or 20 minutes late? Should tge customer pay fir that time? The shops allocated that time slot to that customer, but now has only enough time for a 45mins booking instead of the hour booking that he made? The shop losses money now and the girl losses money because the punter couldn't be on time. What do you think should happen in that situation?

[VFlowers]

If you make a booking at 2, the clock starts at 2, the girls may be a couple of minutes late, you may be a couple of minutes late. It's not hard to understand. Let me ask you this one, what about all the times customers are 10,15 or 20 minutes late? Should tge customer pay fir that time? The shops allocated that time slot to that customer, but now has only enough time for a 45mins booking instead of the hour booking that he made? The shop losses money now and the girl losses money because the punter couldn't be on time. What do you think should happen in that situation?

If I made a booking for a particular time, and I arrived late, I would find it more than fair that I had to pay for the time I booked while the actual massage/service time were reduced by the amount of time I was late.

And, if I made a booking and arrived on time, I would be VERY unhappy if I had to wait because the girl's last client was late and she still gave him the full time...

[JJBeck]

I notice this at a popular shop with popular girls, being late because previous session finish late and she shower in your time or is just plain late due to overrun of sessions

I just stop seeing her and the shop
Plenty of other places to go

[VFlowers]

Another pet hate of mine is when they take ages between taking you into the room and reappearing to actually start the massage.
The day it takes me more than 90 s to jump out of my clothes and onto the massage table is probably the day I need to retire from this hobby altogether.
I always make it a point to throw a very obvious glance at the clock on the wall when that happens...

[FredWard63]

I don't mind the lady showering, usually I'm drying off and getting dressed and during that time we chat, so all good. What I do mind is what VFlowers noted. Some carry it to an extreme and when then happens, I mention it.

[Scotty from Marketing]

If the lady greets you at 2 or earlier and has piss farted around and comes into the room at 7 minutes after the hour. As soon as she shuts the door, I tell her the time and say we will finish at 3:07 if we need to.
Often it finishes early anyway, but you have to stand your ground and make yourself clear.
Huffing and puffing in silence or after the event teaches no lessons

[Herpetology]

Next time shower with the girl

Just ask her to shower you

That is what we do

Guys

Please ask king Bris99 man who knows all shops Mr Smithchips?

Where is Mr Smithchips gone the King Pin he can answer all your questions


I miss his shit poo bag comments Herps

Any Idea what shops he goes to?

I need to catch up for a coffee

[Hermes At Home]

As long as the ML doesn’t keep you waiting too long after taking your money and telling you to get undressed, I reckon everything else is fine.

[Becareful]

Im starting to get annoyed at my regular at mirage108/platnium she is always behind by like 8 to 10mins and finishes early from 5 to 10mins. I get that she is late but why should I forfeight my time especially when im a regular and every time the people she has before me finishes on time. If she does it one more time I will probably stop seeing her because that just disrespectful.

[KushKat]

My view is that the shower time shouldn't be included; showering is doing everyone a favour

[Becareful]

Ignore this post thought it was sydney :)

[VFlowers]

Im starting to get annoyed at my regular at mirage108/platnium she is always behind by like 8 to 10mins and finishes early from 5 to 10mins. I get that she is late but why should I forfeight my time especially when im a regular and every time the people she has before me finishes on time. If she does it one more time I will probably stop seeing her because that just disrespectful.

There is a thread in the Brisbane 'general discussion' section about seeing MLs regularly.
Some guys there explain how some MLs start to take their regulars for granted, drop service quality, start cutting time and similar. Maybe have a look. Not seeing that regular of yours at least for a while might be a good idea under the circumstances you described.

[Asmodeus]

I always arrive 5 minutes before my booking to those shops that have a shower even though I'm clean and had a shower at home.
Let's the ML know I'm fresh.

Recently on a rare occasion that I didn't have a shower I was given the option up front cbj or of I shower bbbj.

I'd challenge for Olympic gold in the sprint I ran to the shower that fast.

Likewise I don't mind if the ML comes to the room a couple of minutes later if she was in the shower. Like them I prefer fresh so 5 minutes out of 60 is nothing. I'm considerate of my fellow punters so to save time at the end we shower together 😁

[Chopper007]

If I made a booking for a particular time, and I arrived late, I would find it more than fair that I had to pay for the time I booked while the actual massage/service time were reduced by the amount of time I was late.

And, if I made a booking and arrived on time, I would be VERY unhappy if I had to wait because the girl's last client was late and she still gave him the full time...

I believe you would flowers, but 98 out of 100 don't, they don't even offer to pay the time they booked, only the time the finally arrived at, and the store and the girls lose money every day because of this.

[toga]

Pointing out another facet to the original post.

Went to my booking at the time I was supposed to. Because the fucker in front of me kept the ML back, extracting every minute of "his hour". So I started five minutes late (she had to shower in my time booked). I don't sweat such things though.

However, the guy coming after me turned up 8 minutes early. Kept ringing the bell. All the girls were busy so my ML (who he'd booked with) had to leave my booking to answer the friggin door.

From my discussions with various MLs, it's these fuckers - staying over time or coming in early or arriving late but still wanting their time - which are at fault.

Guys need to make sure they don't try and extend (or be late and still expect their hour) their bookings as it impacts on the next bookings.

Further, if you get there early, unless prearranged, stay the fuck in your car until it's closer to your time. It's so inconsiderate.

My ML was great and made up for this situation. But she ends up losing, all because such guys think they are the be all and end all.

[Asmodeus]

Pointing out another facet to the original post.

Went to my booking at the time I was supposed to. Because the fucker in front of me kept the ML back, extracting every minute of "his hour". So I started five minutes late (she had to shower in my time booked). I don't sweat such things though.

However, the guy coming after me turned up 8 minutes early. Kept ringing the bell. All the girls were busy so my ML (who he'd booked with) had to leave my booking to answer the friggin door.

From my discussions with various MLs, it's these fuckers - staying over time or coming in early or arriving late but still wanting their time - which are at fault.

Guys need to make sure they don't try and extend (or be late and still expect their hour) their bookings as it impacts on the next bookings.

Further, if you get there early, unless prearranged, stay the fuck in your car until it's closer to your time. It's so inconsiderate.

My ML was great and made up for this situation. But she ends up losing, all because such guys think they are the be all and end all.


You're absolutely right that if we pay for an hour, we rightly expect an hour and feel understandably annoyed if part of that time is eaten up for the reasons you mention. I've also had my booking held up as the ML was still in the car having a drawn-out goodbye with her bf. This can have a flow on affect for several bookings.

Coming up early —

You've nailed the general etiquette: don't come up early unless instructed, and when you do, be discreet — one ring, no loitering.

2–3 minutes before the scheduled time is reasonable. Any earlier can be intrusive.

Some girls do ask clients to come early
This can be to cut short an uncomfortable or unwanted booking.

I've recently had a ML ask me to come early so she could move on the client she was with as she claimed he was manipulative and expecting to pay much less than everyone else. She saw this as the only way to discourage him from booking her.

You are right. Some guys think they are the be all and end all and have unreasonable expectations of quality providers.

Bottom line:

This stuff happens because not all players (clients & workers) are considerate.
But if everyone operated on mutual respect, most of these issues wouldn’t exist.

[FredWard63]

So you must have missed out on your 9am booking with Lily is it? Stop complaining old man, sit in your uber car where you belong

As for others turning up early. Maybe they just wana have a shower beforehand cause they been out in the sun all day, fucking working a real job. Not like some pretend pimp who leaches money off girls. It's not our problem you can't come, maybe lay off the blue pills abit, they are making you so angry. Pill popping freak

Your discussions with various ML? Lol please. You are big noting yourself here. Stop being such a simp. You fucking pay just like everyone else. The other guys do exactly the same services as you too and you are driving her around town like a fucking clown?? Don't be a sukker your whole life guy, your not the be all and end all in this city. The girl doesn't lose money idiot. Your milking money from these girls, who is the loser here? Are you too stoned?? Wake up

We do what we wana do man, this isn't China ok? We turn up early or stay late. Fuck you.

Pull your fucking head in or I will report you to the Special Forces Major General alright?

I really don't understand the need for such an antogonistic response. It doesn't seem to add anything to the discussion; it doesn't appear to be all that clever; it doesn't appear to be all that insightful. It just appears crass and juvenile.

[harry444]

I contribute to a couple of different forums. This one seems to attract the most dickheads so I usually keep to myself now. Don't take it too personally Toga.

[VFlowers]

Just keep bow down to your master guys, its fine. You know everything. We are just the ones with low post counts right? Have you ever thought about why that is? We actually have a life and been out here doing it for a decade or more. How about that?

We don't know just a handful of girls and rely on second hand info. This is the playbook we created. We are not into this simp shit or sukking each others dicks either for fukking tips from you. Girls that T5 is now promoting as stars. We fukked them two years ago. Thats yesterdays news guy. Need do better than that

You know it's gotten really bad when people start to compete for, or brag about being the 'best', most 'successful' or most experienced punter........i.e. guys who have had to pay women (or other individuals) for sex......perhaps for decades...

[massage-tragic]

I really don't understand the need for such an antogonistic response. It doesn't seem to add anything to the discussion; it doesn't appear to be all that clever; it doesn't appear to be all that insightful. It just appears crass and juvenile.

100% agree with your comments Fred. There is so much juvenile behaviour on this site.

[FredWard63]

It's the worlds oldest profession for a reason dude. You don't pay when you go to the shop? Haha ok guy, wow tell us how master? I don't need to explain anything to you lol we are talking about shops here it's not for relationships, fake pr husbands, visa boyfriends and pimps. Maybe you should think before you open your mouth

Any relationship costs whichever way you look at it, one way or another so I am not sure what you are on about. I am interested to know how you do in shops for free though, please share? Maybe you drive them in your car like an around town clown too. Good for you. Some Indian cabbie can do the same and get more play from them than you could. Be smart

Perhaps some self-reflection on the last 2 words of your message is in order. Having read through your contributions, I'm left thinking you should have written "Be smart, because that is well beyond my capabiliites."

[JJBeck]

The last couple of time I went to 888, I was not offered a shower.
I normally go home and shower, except if the girl joins me.

As mentioned before, the girl should shower at the end of a session to not take up time of the next customer

[harry444]

I have the utmost respect and sympathy for the girls. I think I'm pretty normal, but...... I'm sure this attitude is not restricted to just this forum.

[FredWard63]

It's funny how you were so quiet when I posted about Naomi and now here you are! You got your knickers in a knot cause you paid 300 and I didn't. And you say I am juvenile? Lol and you question me as to if this is true or not? All because you and others paid more? Is this what it's come to?

I would thought you were a better negotiator than me, since your such a wizard master and all. Maybe that's why you are upset?

I can't help it if I am smarter than you. Just deal with it

Hmm...I think you were having that discussion with someone else, toga, I recall. Blurring of realities is a sign of depersonalisation or derealisation disorders. Perhaps you should seek help?

[Cmnothingelse]

Is money that tight that you're having a whinge about a $70-$80 dollar shop fee and not getting VFM? Fellas... The girls make bugger all off the shop fee. Probably why it's called a shop fee.

And holy gloryhole batman, there's more agro in here than a 90's puppet...

[JJBeck]

Some of the ML mention there is a pill selling dickhead around
Selling diet pills that have serious side effects
Not saying it is anyone, just that the ml mention it

Sounds like there is truth to the pulling selling lowlife, whom ever it is.

[FredWard63]

who knows what goes through subzero's tortured intellect. Given his delusions and insecurities one tends to think he might be partaking of the odd chemical additives.

[FredWard63]

what a strange little man, quite tiresome really. I think I'll leave you to your insecuritues and delusions. You seem quite harmless, so I'll let you be.

[Phaser74]

Only thing thats insecure around here is the tampon about to slip out of that canyon you call a vagina faggot ladyboy lover lol

Stop projecting your fake reality onto others, maybe you are Chinese? This isn't how we do things here in Australia.

You need to sharpen up your reviews cause it's just not cutting it here anymore. The info on those girls is a couple of years old, you need to do better than that

The format sucks, you are not providing enough details on what goes on in the room. You need to be more specific and more graphic the better. You post reviews like your Mum is going to find out or something. Have a go for once in your life

Thank you for highlighting things that have frustrated others for ages.
The reviews are dogshit. Pure and simple. Manufactured, only specific shops and about as useful as a fart in an elevator. Simple reviews for the simple minded

As for the pushers….ive heard from many a girl talk about these guys. Prescription and non prescriptions drugs given with no professional medical training and almost forced upon them. “You’ve put on some weight. I can help” etc. “You work long shifts and need to stay awake. Take this”. Then badger them into services they dont want to do at discounted rates because they are good guys trying to help.

[FredWard63]

I'm unclear as tohow my reviews are frustrating for you. Is it that you require more pornographic detail to help you satisfy your needs? If so, Literotica.com is an excellent resource that will more than help you fill that need.
As for my reviews, your interest in them will ensure that I'll keep posting them, so thank you. As for the insightful observations you and your colleagues wish to make...well let's just say that you will find that you could not locate my interest in them with the most powerful of telescopes. That's my final word on the matter.

[Pdaddy]

5 mins here and there is normal but there are girls that take the piss, and use multiple moments during a booking to shorten the actual massage part. Then try to finish you off 10-15 minutes before end of booking. When you add it up, you’re paying for an hour booking that lasts 30 mins all up. If you’re getting FS at parlours, it makes more sense to visit an escort or brothel in most cases.
Though some girls are worth the price… :)
Also, if the place is booking back to back appointments, there should be waiting rooms and a reception. Kind of like a brothel setup (rose castle, Asian star etc).