Star Cherry Bad experience

[Bluetea]

Saw Cherry’s pics on WeChat — she was wearing a Japanese-style robe and looked pretty decent at first glance. I assumed she might be on par with girls like Hibiki or Ami. The place promotes itself as a Japanese-style shop, so even if she wasn’t Japanese, I expected some level of quality.

But nope — total disaster. She opened the door and I thought, “Wait, isn’t this the same girl from SSDS?” I’m not 100% sure about the name, but I’m convinced it’s the same person I turned down at SSDS just last week. I didn’t want to be rude by walking away again, so I stayed. Big mistake.

They claim she’s in her 20s — in reality, she’s easily 35 or older. I went for the $150 BJ option, and honestly, it was a nightmare. Zero skill, way too much teeth, and even painful at times. No clue what she was doing — no technique, no sensuality, no foreplay, just clumsy and awkward from start to finish.

Total waste of time and money. Never going back. If the owner cares at all about their shop’s reputation, they seriously need to tighten up quality control.

[toga]

Maybe the service did reflect that she remembered you walking on her last week at SSDS. LoL.

There's many other good ones there, you said it yourself. Just don't see her.

[Eric_li]

That’s gotta be SSDS A****, right? Can someone confirm?

If it is, no wonder — she’s honestly pretty terrible


Maybe the service did reflect that she remembered you walking on her last week at SSDS. LoL.

There's many other good ones there, you said it yourself. Just don't see her.


Yeah, I’m with you on that. Honestly, only Ami and Hibiki are worth mentioning — and even then, Ami’s got a way better attitude than Hibiki. Rennie (the one who went back to Melbourne) was solid too. No clue if she’s ever coming back though

Service is solid, but don’t bother trying to chat — their English will leave you more confused than anything

[Kingpoo]

There is also a Cherry from China in TT Carina. Not sure if its the same person

[The Forsaken One]

Duplicate post...

[FredWard63]

There is also a Cherry from China in TT Carina. Not sure if its the same person

I very much doubt it. The Cherry at TT Carina/5 Star is nothing like the photo, she also is not in her mid 30s. I've reviewed that Cherry on 15 April...
Cherry, Chinese. Tall, well built, curvy, not fat. If you only want the typical small Asian body then Cherry is not that. Excellent English. Pretty. Full menu available, YMMV. Very very good service, not passive. Good firm massage. Great personality, good sense of humour, fun to chat with. Prices within the expected range. Will certainly return.

[The Forsaken One]

That’s gotta be SSDS A****, right? Can someone confirm?


If it is, no wonder — she’s honestly pretty terrible




Yeah, I’m with you on that. Honestly, only Ami and Hibiki are worth mentioning — and even then, Ami’s got a way better attitude than Hibiki. Rennie (the one who went back to Melbourne) was solid too. No clue if she’s ever coming back though

Service is solid, but don’t bother trying to chat — their English will leave you more confused than anything

Same girl.
Pretty bad now star are accepting SSDS rejects

[Staedtler]

This thread smells like a stitch up

[thunder545454]

Saw Cherry’s pics on WeChat — she was wearing a Japanese-style robe and looked pretty decent at first glance. I assumed she might be on par with girls like Hibiki or Ami. The place promotes itself as a Japanese-style shop, so even if she wasn’t Japanese, I expected some level of quality.

But nope — total disaster. She opened the door and I thought, “Wait, isn’t this the same girl from SSDS?” I’m not 100% sure about the name, but I’m convinced it’s the same person I turned down at SSDS just last week. I didn’t want to be rude by walking away again, so I stayed. Big mistake.

They claim she’s in her 20s — in reality, she’s easily 35 or older. I went for the $150 BJ option, and honestly, it was a nightmare. Zero skill, way too much teeth, and even painful at times. No clue what she was doing — no technique, no sensuality, no foreplay, just clumsy and awkward from start to finish.

Total waste of time and money. Never going back. If the owner cares at all about their shop’s reputation, they seriously need to tighten up quality control.

That old and getting tossed around shop to shop, you would assume she would atleast be out to please.

Crazy how some of the frumpy ones give the worst service.

I got very average looking woman at SSDS once punting blind, but god dam she massaged the shit out of me, then jerked me off better than anyone ever has, knew how to work the stick wasn't in a rush, knew her job did it to perfection, that I can respect.

These average girls who aren't spring chickens and don't aim to please need to just go do something else stop wasting everyone's time.

[Pome]

I'll just come out and say it- this post is complete bullshit. This evening I've done some investigating and I can only conclude that Blue tea is not being honest.

Here are the facts:
1. Cherry is visiting Brisbane from Melbourne short term.
2. She is attractive and looks early 20's.
I've looked into Blue tea as well. He seems to post very positively about take 5.
3. Poppy (Star massage owner) is an excellent operator. If you go to the shop, you know this. The shop is customer focused and the girls are happy working there.

So, Blue tea I'd like to you to answer a few questions...
1. Did you actually go to Star massage? I have serious doubts.
2. Are you a shop owner? I think you are.

If that's the case, I really think you are a lowlife. Poppy and the girls at Star work hard to provide great experiences for customers- they don't deserve this.
This forum is for punters! There is no place for this bullshit here.
I'll wait for your reply.....

[thunder545454]

I'll just come out and say it- this post is complete bullshit. This evening I've done some investigating and I can only conclude that Blue tea is not being honest.

Here are the facts:
1. Cherry is visiting Brisbane from Melbourne short term.
2. She is attractive and looks early 20's.
I've looked into Blue tea as well. He seems to post very positively about take 5.
3. Poppy (Star massage owner) is an excellent operator. If you go to the shop, you know this. The shop is customer focused and the girls are happy working there.

So, Blue tea I'd like to you to answer a few questions...
1. Did you actually go to Star massage? I have serious doubts.
2. Are you a shop owner? I think you are.

If that's the case, I really think you are a lowlife. Poppy and the girls at Star work hard to provide great experiences for customers- they don't deserve this.
This forum is for punters! There is no place for this bullshit here.
I'll wait for your reply.....

If star is confident this is another shop owner, just get a lawyer onto it, if it turns out to be true, the defamation costs would be well into 6 figures.

This is australia not asia, you can sue the pants off people here for their mean internet words if you can prove there was intent to seriously harm someone reputation, another shop owner post that kind of thing to harm another business, the $$$ would be tremendous.

If really think it's another shop drop the hammer on their heads, im here with my popcorn ready to watch the shit show.

Imagine being dragged to court for posting something like that and having to stand infront of a judge and explain yourself, then getting written up with a picture in the paper, murdersome.

[Who Killed Tangerine]

If star is confident this is another shop owner, just get a lawyer onto it, if it turns out to be true, the defamation costs would be well into 6 figures.

This is australia not asia, you can sue the pants off people here for their mean internet words if you can prove there was intent to seriously harm someone reputation, another shop owner post that kind of thing to harm another business, the $$$ would be tremendous.

If really think it's another shop drop the hammer on their heads, im here with my popcorn ready to watch the shit show.

Imagine being dragged to court for posting something like that and having to stand infront of a judge and explain yourself, then getting written up with a picture in the paper, murdersome.

Thats a nice fantasy, but how many of these cases end up in court?
There is so much shit written on the internet and the legal system so cumbersome not many would engage.
Add in foreign owners with likely shaky visa statuses and unless the owner was particularly incensed it would go nowhere.

There is a chinese mafia type element in shop ownership, not management. I think they have other ways to ruin other shop owners. It will only take a few popular mls being poached to make things real uncomfortable.

[blobfish2024]

Yes can confirm Cherry TT/5 Star is not the same person OP posted

[Kingpoo]

Yes can confirm Cherry TT/5 Star is not the same person OP posted

OP posted same girl in SSDS and did not say about 5 star/TT

[Bluetea]

I'll just come out and say it- this post is complete bullshit. This evening I've done some investigating and I can only conclude that Blue tea is not being honest.

Here are the facts:
1. Cherry is visiting Brisbane from Melbourne short term.
2. She is attractive and looks early 20's.
I've looked into Blue tea as well. He seems to post very positively about take 5.
3. Poppy (Star massage owner) is an excellent operator. If you go to the shop, you know this. The shop is customer focused and the girls are happy working there.

So, Blue tea I'd like to you to answer a few questions...
1. Did you actually go to Star massage? I have serious doubts.
2. Are you a shop owner? I think you are.

If that's the case, I really think you are a lowlife. Poppy and the girls at Star work hard to provide great experiences for customers- they don't deserve this.
This forum is for punters! There is no place for this bullshit here.
I'll wait for your reply.....

Poppy’s actually a reliable ML — I saw her back when she was Ali at SSDS, then again as Poppy at 5 Star, and later as Mizuki at T5. Gotta admit, sometimes it’s not even on purpose — you book thinking it’s someone new, and turns out it’s the same girl under a different name. Out of politeness, you don’t just walk out, you roll with it. Now that she’s older and running her own shop — fair enough, that’s business.

I never said the shop was terrible or that the owner’s a bad guy — I just said it could use a bit more quality control. Girls like Kira, Hibiki, Ami, and Chloe from Taiwan (usually only works half-days), plus the one from Melbourne — name starts with R, can’t remember the spelling — they were all decent. Some of the better ones, really.

But honestly, the way you’re coming at me with all this heat... what’s the deal? You the guy bankrolling Poppy’s shop or what?

Or is it that only praise for your side chick’s shop is allowed, and any criticism is off-limits

[Pome]

Blue tea- on reading this I can accept you are a punter. Thanks for clarifying.

Your criticism yesterday was way over the top and unfair- you did say you were not going back and implied the owner was not serious about quality control. This couldn't be further from the truth and is unfairly damaging to an excellent business.
As you say there are plenty of good MLs at the shop. Why then try to damage the business overall? Did you mention your disappointment to Poppy? I know for a fact she would have responded...

If you had written a review based on your session with the ML only then my reaction would have been very different.

I'm not bankrolling anything- your lack of thought and care for hard working people's livelihoods certainly got my blood boiling.

I suggest you reach out to Poppy and explain what happened. I'm sure she can suggest a girl that meets your requirements.

[thunder545454]

Thats a nice fantasy, but how many of these cases end up in court?
There is so much shit written on the internet and the legal system so cumbersome not many would engage.
Add in foreign owners with likely shaky visa statuses and unless the owner was particularly incensed it would go nowhere.

There is a chinese mafia type element in shop ownership, not management. I think they have other ways to ruin other shop owners. It will only take a few popular mls being poached to make things real uncomfortable.

Chinese mafia element LOLLLLL now who is talking fantasy.

That dork who runs 5 star, the short guy who runs take 5, the old lady who runs SSDS, the ex ML bosses like poppy and kat, these are chinese mafia give me a break, all them combined couldn't punch a hole through a slice of super soft white bread.

Yes being sued for defamation is a real thing in australia, I have a family member who sued over a facebook community post about their dog and got a 5 figure pay out.

[Who Killed Tangerine]

Chinese mafia element LOLLLLL now who is talking fantasy.

That dork who runs 5 star, the short guy who runs take 5, the old lady who runs SSDS, the ex ML bosses like poppy and kat, these are chinese mafia give me a break, all them combined couldn't punch a hole through a slice of super soft white bread.

Yes being sued for defamation is a real thing in australia, I have a family member who sued over a facebook community post about their dog and got a 5 figure pay out.
You are confusing managers with owners. With one or two exceptions.
Most of those that people think are owners are just middle men/women with an anonymous boss
Ownership dont give a rats arse about the running of the business. They leave that to the managers who have total autonomy.

Owners care when their laundry is threatened and are not running to their local solicitor/cop shop to find resolutions.

As for defamation, must have been a pretty serious comment about a dog to warrant a 5 figure payout.

[thunder545454]

You are confusing managers with owners. With one or two exceptions.
Most of those that people think are owners are just middle men/women with an anonymous boss
Ownership dont give a rats arse about the running of the business. They leave that to the managers who have total autonomy.

Owners care when their laundry is threatened and are not running to their local solicitor/cop shop to find resolutions.

As for defamation, must have been a pretty serious comment about a dog to warrant a 5 figure payout.

who am I confusing? the dorky guy doesn't own 5 star?

Take 5 ive met the owner his an avid poster on the forum, you should go look on take 5 threads 7 out 10 posts are his....

Kat isn't an owner? you must be new.....

Alot of the owners do claim to only be managers not owners that is true, if you ask them they will say their the only manager, its so they can tell dopey guys who complain alot, sorry nothing they can do owners rules..... you must complain alot.

[Hermes At Home]

Glad you were careful with the wording — this isn’t the A-name girl from SSDS, it’s actually Cherry. But just to be clear, Cherry from SSDS/Star and Cherry from TT are not the same person, even if the names are the same

[Mr Robot]

I'll just come out and say it- this post is complete bullshit. This evening I've done some investigating and I can only conclude that Blue tea is not being honest.

Here are the facts:
1. Cherry is visiting Brisbane from Melbourne short term.
2. She is attractive and looks early 20's.
I've looked into Blue tea as well. He seems to post very positively about take 5.
3. Poppy (Star massage owner) is an excellent operator. If you go to the shop, you know this. The shop is customer focused and the girls are happy working there.

So, Blue tea I'd like to you to answer a few questions...
1. Did you actually go to Star massage? I have serious doubts.
2. Are you a shop owner? I think you are.

If that's the case, I really think you are a lowlife. Poppy and the girls at Star work hard to provide great experiences for customers- they don't deserve this.
This forum is for punters! There is no place for this bullshit here.
I'll wait for your reply.....



It's not hard to see why he and others think you’re backing the shop — since Feb 24 you have posted 20 times, 17 related to Poppy's shop and apart from debating with other "punters" your posts were all positive.
If you aren't the owner (one post accidentally written in Japanese) it's pretty clear you are her number 1 fan.

Let’s be real — like any place, there are standouts and there are duds. Poppy’s had plenty of praise, so when one of her girls doesn’t deliver, it’s fair game to call it out.

Owners have to accept both positive and negative feedback just like any business. It's up to them how they deal with that feedback.
Generally not good customer service to attack the customer providing the feedback.

[Pome]

Mr Robot-I don't think I have hidden the fact that I think it is a good shop. I've had great experiences there and have expressed that on this forum many times. So what?

I believe this post by Bluetea is intentionally trying to harm a shop that has been an excellent addition to the Brisbane RNT scene. He made a number of claims that are just untrue. He cast aspersions over their quality control based on one session with a brand new girl. He said she looks over 35- not true.
As I said earlier, if he'd just kept his comments to the session that's fair game but to say the quality control is an issue is just unfair to Star.

BTW- I am not posting on behalf of the shop, I'm calling out bullshit when I see it.

I don't know what the Bluetea's motivation was but I believe punters have a right to know the facts. Are you suggesting I should just stay quiet?

[Pome]

Also- I never posted in Japanese and it wasn't an accident. It was directed at a Chinese "punter".

[JJBeck]

Majority of my experience at Star are great.
Poppy is still amazing and her style rubs of on her staff.
Few shops where I will do a walk-in without a booking.

[South_Brisbane]

I’ve visited Poppy’s place twice now, and despite living just a two-minute walk from 5 Star, I can genuinely say both experiences at Poppies were worth the drive. My only issue was with the shower facilities at Carina, they weren’t up to par. I’m looking forward to the potential opening of the new premises, whenever that may be?

[Mr Robot]

Mr Robot-I don't think I have hidden the fact that I think it is a good shop. I've had great experiences there and have expressed that on this forum many times. So what?

I believe this post by Bluetea is intentionally trying to harm a shop that has been an excellent addition to the Brisbane RNT scene. He made a number of claims that are just untrue. He cast aspersions over their quality control based on one session with a brand new girl. He said she looks over 35- not true.
As I said earlier, if he'd just kept his comments to the session that's fair game but to say the quality control is an issue is just unfair to Star.

BTW- I am not posting on behalf of the shop, I'm calling out bullshit when I see it.

I don't know what the Bluetea's motivation was but I believe punters have a right to know the facts. Are you suggesting I should just stay quiet?



I completely support people posting regularly about their favourite shop — that’s what forums are for. But when someone shares a different opinion and you’ve only posted about one place, it can come across as a bit one-sided.

One comment about their perception of poor quality control shouldn’t be enough to cause such a strong reaction.

Things like appearance are subjective — they said “over 35,” you said “much younger.” Both are opinions, and both are valid. Isn’t that the whole point of a discussion forum — sharing experiences and perspectives, even when they differ?

From your post history, is it fair to say you mainly visit or review Poppy’s shop?

It seems like someone had a bad experience, shared it, and it wasn’t well received — but that doesn’t mean their view is any less valid.

Why not explore and post about a few other shops too? Maybe some in Carina, if that’s a more convenient area for you?

For the record, I’ve also had many great experiences at Poppy’s — and also at other places.

No one’s saying you should stay quiet. Keep sharing your views — just as others should be free to share theirs too.

[Pome]

Mr Robot - I've never said people shouldn't share their views. Just that they shouldn't post misinformation. Please don't misrepresent what I said- that's really annoying.

I think the strong reaction came from Bluetea who had 1 poor session with a new girl and despite him later saying he'd had good experiences there, he questioned the whole shop. I've already said that I have no problem with him relating a bad experience -Mr Robot I hope this is not too hard for you to grasp.

In addition, I congratulate you on your successful punting record- you must be proud. I hope you continue to enjoy yourself- I certainly will.

[Poppys]

Saw Cherry’s pics on WeChat — she was wearing a Japanese-style robe and looked pretty decent at first glance. I assumed she might be on par with girls like Hibiki or Ami. The place promotes itself as a Japanese-style shop, so even if she wasn’t Japanese, I expected some level of quality.

But nope — total disaster. She opened the door and I thought, “Wait, isn’t this the same girl from SSDS?” I’m not 100% sure about the name, but I’m convinced it’s the same person I turned down at SSDS just last week. I didn’t want to be rude by walking away again, so I stayed. Big mistake.

They claim she’s in her 20s — in reality, she’s easily 35 or older. I went for the $150 BJ option, and honestly, it was a nightmare. Zero skill, way too much teeth, and even painful at times. No clue what she was doing — no technique, no sensuality, no foreplay, just clumsy and awkward from start to finish.

Total waste of time and money. Never going back. If the owner cares at all about their shop’s reputation, they seriously need to tighten up quality control.

I am Poppy.

You are free to write reviews about the girls—that seems to be your hobby, after all.

However, I always strive to create a business that supports both the girls and our customers. When customers have concerns or complaints, they speak to me directly. I take that feedback seriously and use it to improve the shop.

But instead of speaking to me, you chose to post publicly, saying things like “the shop should do better quality control” and that you “will never return.” That feels more like harassment than constructive criticism.

Are you someone who doesn’t even have the courage to speak to me directly?

It seems you know some personal details about me, so perhaps I was the one who gave you the massage? If that’s the case, I find it even more surprising that you would post a comment that could negatively affect my business.

Also, you said you visited the shop and saw Cherry—are you sure about that?

She is 22 years old, and anyone—100 out of 100 people—would say she looks like she’s in her early 20s. you claimed she looks 35 or older. That alone makes me question whether you even received a massage from Cherry?

[iamking]

I had high hopes for Star and Poppy. Was hoping it would turn into the J version of the old T5. Started with a bang, but have to say recently has not lived up to "my expectation" I found better service, value and prettier MLs elsewhere. Not sure if the wechat pictures are meant to be 'hazy', but they do nothing for me either. I prefer accurate photos or none at all. Some shops do send pictures that self delete which i appreciate. I do think that shops are struggling getting quality girls and/or keeping them. SSDS, FG are examples of this. Competition is fierce and a couple of dud punts from the same shop will make me start going elsewhere.
And for the record i agree with Mr Robot. And Bluetea can review any way he likes. His money his visit. He may have high standards, he may be lying or be a shop owner, but I'm pretty sure Star Cherry punters who had a great time would come out and refute him. Fredward had a great time, and i trust his reviews, but he did stipulate if you like a certain type of girl she may not be the one, which you can't tell from the wechat photo when making a booking.

[Mr Robot]

Mr Robot - I've never said people shouldn't share their views. Just that they shouldn't post misinformation. Please don't misrepresent what I said- that's really annoying.

I think the strong reaction came from Bluetea who had 1 poor session with a new girl and despite him later saying he'd had good experiences there, he questioned the whole shop. I've already said that I have no problem with him relating a bad experience -Mr Robot I hope this is not too hard for you to grasp.

In addition, I congratulate you on your successful punting record- you must be proud. I hope you continue to enjoy yourself- I certainly will.


Based on your over the top defence of Poppy and her shop it's clear you have a vested interest in this shop.
You clearly are unwilling to accept any form of criticism let alone address the OP's concern.

I agree with the general sentiment that most of the girls at Poppy’s are of a very high standard. I saw Ami for the first time this week and like others I’ve seen there before her, she was outstanding.

From what I gathered, the original poster wasn’t trying to tear anyone down but simply expressed concern that Cherry might not meet the same standard as the others. I personally haven’t seen Cherry in the room, so I can’t speak from direct experience—but based on appearances alone, if she were lined up alongside some of the other girls, I wouldn’t have picked her either.

Not every comment that isn't glowing is an attack.

I know you will want to have the last word so I'll leave it with you...

[Bluetea]

I am Poppy.

You are free to write reviews about the girls—that seems to be your hobby, after all.

However, I always strive to create a business that supports both the girls and our customers. When customers have concerns or complaints, they speak to me directly. I take that feedback seriously and use it to improve the shop.

But instead of speaking to me, you chose to post publicly, saying things like “the shop should do better quality control” and that you “will never return.” That feels more like harassment than constructive criticism.

Are you someone who doesn’t even have the courage to speak to me directly?

It seems you know some personal details about me, so perhaps I was the one who gave you the massage? If that’s the case, I find it even more surprising that you would post a comment that could negatively affect my business.

Also, you said you visited the shop and saw Cherry—are you sure about that?

She is 22 years old, and anyone—100 out of 100 people—would say she looks like she’s in her early 20s. you claimed she looks 35 or older. That alone makes me question whether you even received a massage from Cherry?

I wasn’t planning to comment again — I was happy to let it go. It was just a simple review about a girl I didn’t like, nothing more.

But since you felt the need to jump in and blatantly lie about her age, alright then — let’s go there.

Yeah, no doubt — Cherry’s English is crap. But when I asked her age, she didn’t even flinch. Just flat-out told me she’s 27 — clear as day.

Let’s be real, girls in this line of work almost always lie down, not up. They shave years off their age, not add to it. So if you’re out here claiming she’s 22, I seriously don’t get why she’d randomly add five years. It just makes zero sense.

What I saw was clearly someone in her early 30s. And honestly, instead of jumping in to defend her, maybe take a good hard look at your own real age — then think about what age you tell clients. You’ll quickly figure out whether your argument holds any weight.

And hey, if this “Cherry” you’re talking about really is 22, then show proof. I swear to God — if you can prove she’s 22, I’ll eat shit live on stream.

And by the way — since you’re the boss, I assume you’ve seen her visa info, right? So think carefully for a second… is she really 22 like you say?
Was she really born in 2003?

[superintend_h]

Our shop contacted by Cherry a few weeks ago, but we couldn’t give her job cause she didn’t understand what we’re saying and she had to use the translation app. Also she didn’t look like 29, over 35 something - I agree.

However, what we don’t understand is how can the girls communicate with the customers with zero English…are the customers still happy with it? And how the shop hiring these type of the girls?

We’re just questioning, nothing more than that.

[JJBeck]

Which shop do you work at our manage?

[Pome]

Looks like Elysian Massage.

[Bluetea]

However, what we don’t understand is how can the girls communicate with the customers with zero English…are the customers still happy with it? And how the shop hiring these type of the girls?

We’re just questioning, nothing more than that.

I don’t know if you are talking about the same person

the English thing isn’t really a big deal. Take Ami from the same shop—her English wasn’t great either at first.

She used to write down her services in her phone notes and was super clear about payment, even telling you the PayID (which was actually Poppy’s personal number).

Last time I saw her, she could explain her menu just fine.

So yeah, language isn’t the issue here.

I just had a not-so-great experience and left a straightforward review. Nothing personal against the shop.

[VFlowers]

I am Poppy.

You are free to write reviews about the girls—that seems to be your hobby, after all.

However, I always strive to create a business that supports both the girls and our customers. When customers have concerns or complaints, they speak to me directly. I take that feedback seriously and use it to improve the shop.

But instead of speaking to me, you chose to post publicly, saying things like “the shop should do better quality control” and that you “will never return.” That feels more like harassment than constructive criticism.

Are you someone who doesn’t even have the courage to speak to me directly?

It seems you know some personal details about me, so perhaps I was the one who gave you the massage? If that’s the case, I find it even more surprising that you would post a comment that could negatively affect my business.

Also, you said you visited the shop and saw Cherry—are you sure about that?

She is 22 years old, and anyone—100 out of 100 people—would say she looks like she’s in her early 20s. you claimed she looks 35 or older. That alone makes me question whether you even received a massage from Cherry?

So, you are admonishing this customer for not contacting you with his feedback directly.
Well, I DID contact you directly and immediately after my very underwhelming experience with one of your MLs, one that YOU picked for me after I told you what I was after. Unfortunately you took that as an opportunity to use me as a practice subject for your least experienced and likely least popular girl - instead of treating me as a paying customer.
Upon your request I provided you with very detailed feedback via email, and yet have not heard anything back, not even a confirmation of receipt.
But no worries, no answer is also an answer, and I now know everything I need to know about you and your shop.

If somebody is interested in details, send me a PM.

Update: After posting here, I got finally contacted by Poppy (after she got contacted by another user), and of course, you guessed it, she claims she never received my mail. No resolution was offered, only accusations that I posted without checking whether she had received my mail. How about maybe having a professional, reliable email address for the shop?

[Bed Wrecker]

So, you are admonishing this customer for not contacting you with his feedback directly.
Well, I DID contact you directly and immediately after my very underwhelming experience with one of your MLs, one that YOU picked for me after I told you what I was after. Unfortunately you took that as an opportunity to use me as a practice subject for your least experienced and likely least popular girl - instead of treating me as a paying customer.
Upon your request I provided you with very detailed feedback via email, and yet have not heard anything back, not even a confirmation of receipt.
But no worries, no answer is also an answer, and I now know everything I need to know about you and your shop.

If somebody is interested in details, send me a PM.
How many shops is that now?

[VFlowers]

How many shops is that now?

You know what? You've made it onto my ignore list now.

[themort]

You know what? You've made it onto my ignore list now.

Too close to the truth?

[Bed Wrecker]

Too close to the truth?
It is possible that Mr Flowers just has a bad run of luck, expects too much or is fussier than most.
Maybe a combination of all of the above.

I have yet to be banned from a shop or refused to go to one. And I’m an arsehole.

No probs expecting decent service for your money. But life’s too short to be throwing tizzy tantrums at multiple shops for problems that are only partly to blame on shops and service providers

God speed on your next visit Mr Flowers, wherever that will be.
May an asian babe fornicate you with all the passion of a nymphomaniac.

[Poppys]

So, you are admonishing this customer for not contacting you with his feedback directly.
Well, I DID contact you directly and immediately after my very underwhelming experience with one of your MLs, one that YOU picked for me after I told you what I was after. Unfortunately you took that as an opportunity to use me as a practice subject for your least experienced and likely least popular girl - instead of treating me as a paying customer.
Upon your request I provided you with very detailed feedback via email, and yet have not heard anything back, not even a confirmation of receipt.
But no worries, no answer is also an answer, and I now know everything I need to know about you and your shop.

If somebody is interested in details, send me a PM.

Update: After posting here, I got finally contacted by Poppy (after she got contacted by another user), and of course, you guessed it, she claims she never received my mail. No resolution was offered, only accusations that I posted without checking whether she had received my mail. How about maybe having a professional, reliable email address for the shop?

I’m truly sorry that we were unable to match you with someone who suited you.
The shop was busy at the time — 3 out of 4 girls were already with clients — so for bookings made under “anyone,” the available girl is assigned.

She is new, and her massage skills and English may still be a bit awkward, but she is hardworking and cute, and we’ve already received good feedback from other customers about her.

I sent you a text stating that I would re-train her in massage techniques, and while I cannot provide training on anything related to extras,I will take your feedback seriously and pass your concerns on to her in order to improve the situation.

However, you claimed that “no resolution was offered” and that there was “only accusation” based on what I wrote.

Wouldn’t you consider my text message a resolution?
It seems that you focused only on the negative parts of my message and completely overlooked the important points.

I’m truly disappointed.
When I gave you a massage the first time, you told me you wanted to support my business.
I considered you a valued customer.

I know you tried booking a few times afterword, but shop was busy you could not get spot. But since then, you never visited again — and now, after finally returning once, just because one girl didn’t suit your preferences, you went out of your way to leave feed back not only on Aust99, but also a 1-star rating on Google Reviews?

It seems that you have already left a 1-star review on at least four massage shops on Google.

Do you really think that was a mature response?
We are all human — we make mistakes.
Life could be a little easier if you chose to be more understanding, rather than being unnecessarily harsh toward massage shops.

Actually, your feedback email ended up in my spam folder (probably because your email address looked like a random or autogenerated one).
For that, I owe you an apology.

Hopefully , you can find someone who truly satisfies you, Good luck

[VFlowers]

Too close to the truth?

Not really.
Just not interested in his contributions anymore.

Mr. BedWrecker knows everything and more importantly, everything better.
He is the perfect punter, knows every shop, every girl between Sydney and Timbuktu, his booking requests always get replied to as a matter of urgent priority, MLs drop everything and everyone to service him the moment he walks through the door, he's never had a single bad punt in all the millennia of his earthly incarnations, girls and shops offer him money to visit, to teach even the most experienced MLs a trick or two, and when other people experience problems, it's invariably their own fault.
I can never hope or aspire to reach this level of perfection, and therefore it is probably way better for my mental health to not read about it anymore....

[Bed Wrecker]

I have bad punts. We all do. I dont generally cry about them on the forum.
The world isnt black and white. People fuck up. Mess up bookings and have bad days.
We choose how to react to the world around us.

Rule #1 - You are a dick and a wallet to them. Don’t take things personally.
Rule #2 - Know your shop. When you refuse to go to one shop anymore, dont go to another shop run by a girl who worked for the other one for years. This shop has had a few current or ex brothel workers through it. Brothel girls are known for their nice, friendly and warm personalities arent they?
Rule #3 - Know your ml. Do you want a nice girl? (Hint there are no nice girls the second they touch that first dick). Do you want a girl that can lick her own arsehole or will throw her dignity out the window for a few shekels? They learn fast on how to extract money from us. Dont let them without setting expectations.
Rule #4 - Managers dont care about you. They want your money. If you bring your baggage, your money isnt important anymore. You can be another shops problem. Number one complaint of owners is western customers. Be like an asian customer. Certain shops cater to asian customers only. For good reason.
Rule #5 - It’s about you and the ml. The rest is bullshit. Learn to assess them quickly. Before handing over money.
Rule #6 - We have the money. Dont hand it over until you have an expectation that will be met. The two legs most of us have, allows us to walk away.
Rule #7 - There are no rules. Be smart, keep your emotions in check and move on. This isnt fucking KMart.

[VFlowers]

Double post due to issues with 'database error'.

[VFlowers]

Alright,so you want to discuss this publicly? Happy to comply.



I’m truly sorry that we were unable to match you with someone who suited you.
The shop was busy at the time — 3 out of 4 girls were already with clients — so for bookings made under “anyone,” the available girl is assigned.

Not true. You offered me to see the available girls, which I declined because I trusted you. My mistake.


She is new, and her massage skills and English may still be a bit awkward, but she is hardworking and cute, and we’ve already received good feedback from other customers about her.

The girl HERSELF told me that there had been several previous customer complaints about her. A month ago she was still a school teacher in Japan, with no background or experience in massage or any related businesses whatsoever. Her service was not simply a bit subpar, which I would have been understanding and accepting of, but unacceptably and inexcusably bad, and this raises serious doubts about your ambition to offer quality services at your shop.


I sent you a text stating that I would re-train her in massage techniques, and while I cannot provide training on anything related to extras,I will take your feedback seriously and pass your concerns on to her in order to improve the situation.

However, you claimed that “no resolution was offered” and that there was “only accusation” based on what I wrote.

Wouldn’t you consider my text message a resolution?
It seems that you focused only on the negative parts of my message and completely overlooked the important points.

No, I would not consider a text message that not even included an apology a 'resolution' for this total waste of my money, time and opportunity.


I’m truly disappointed.
When I gave you a massage the first time, you told me you wanted to support my business.
I considered you a valued customer.

I am truly disappointed, too. I did support your business and tried at least 4-5 times to schedule further visits and NEVER ever got a timely reply to my booking enquiries. AndI explained to you previously that I can't wait 45 min or longer for a reply while parked on the roadside when my overall window of opportunity for a shop visit is only around 90 minutes. With any other shop I would have long given up. And you forgot to mention that after my first visit you asked me to write a favourable Google review for you which I promptly did. I just could not let that stand after what I experienced earlier this week.
If you had truly valued me as a customer you would not have sent your most inexperienced girl, or you would at least have asked if I minded, and as per the above, you DID have more than one girl available at the time.



I know you tried booking a few times afterword, but shop was busy you could not get spot. But since then, you never visited again — and now, after finally returning once, just because one girl didn’t suit your preferences, you went out of your way to leave feed back not only on Aust99, but also a 1-star rating on Google Reviews?

See above. And also as above, the girl did not simply 'not suit my preferences', it was so bad that if I weren't reasonably polite, I would have left in mid-session, and believe me I toyed with the idea.
Writing a public review is only a last resort for me. I ALWAYS contact the business owner or manager first, give them the opportunity to respond and rectify, and ONLY if they ignore me or don't offer a reasonable resolution, do I go public, here and/or elsewhere. This is what in the Internet age online review portals are actually for. And not a single word I wrote is untrue or exaggerated.
Also please note that I did not initially publish a detailed description of what exactly went down, nor did I name the girl.



We are all human — we make mistakes.
Life could be a little easier if you chose to be more understanding, rather than being unnecessarily harsh toward massage shops.

Yes, and normally, when people make mistakes, they apologise, and try to make up for it. Then we can all learn from those mistakes and still end up in a win-win situation.


Actually, your feedback email ended up in my spam folder (probably because your email address looked like a random or autogenerated one).
For that, I owe you an apology.

Hopefully , you can find someone who truly satisfies you, Good luck

I think in the year 2025 you should have perhaps figured out that when you are expecting an email from a new sender and it doesn't arrive as expected, checking the junk mail folder could be a valuable option, rather than asking me several times to double check if I sent my mail to the right address and blaming me for the communication break-off.

And don't you worry. I have a variety of regulars who are always happy to see me. One of them even works in the same building now. Most of my massage shop visits are great.
I just don't tolerate people who take my money, waste my time, and offer nothing valuable in return, and I will not stop to call them out.

Perhaps you'd be surprised to know that quite a few users here contacted me via PM after yesterday's post. And many of them also articulated concerns about the quality experienced at your shop. Work on that instead of complaining that wronged customers feel unhappy.

Good luck to you, too.

[thunder545454]

All I can think about is poor cherry, just getting slandered by the title here all day long.

Can we change the topic to massage boss and customer battle royale instead?

Fuck sake, I been fucked over by many shops.

SSDS I booked a young hot girl one time, she massaged me for 10mins gets called out suddenly, she comes back and goes oh I don't feel well, ill have to let someone else finish I was like eh no problem girls here normally all pretty cute, some bitch looking like she was wheeled out of a senior citizens home comes in to do the rest.

I was thinking where the fuck did this 50+ woman come from, jesus christ so awkward do I demand a refund? do I run for my life? why have I been put in this position.

My young hot booking no doubt got told to go take care of some other guy for some reason and grandma came to me, was I pissed yeah majorly, did I get fucked over yep.

Did I cry scream google one star them, no I declined extras I got up after the massage I left and ive never gone back to that shop again, thats it we don't need to wage war over ever bad punt we experience it's gonna happen, just vote with your feet and never go back.

[VFlowers]

....and while I cannot provide training on anything related to extras.....

This is something I would like to address separately.
And this post is not directed only at Poppy, but also at all other shop owners or girls who might be reading here.
You're not running a massage shop, you only call it that, but you're running a sex business, don't kid yourselves. That is legal in QLD now, and we can talk about it. Clients don't come for the massage, they come for various sexual services and the 'massage' part of a session needs to fit into that concept.
Your business success as a RnT owner is DIRECTLY related to how attractive your girls are and even more importantly, how well they perform with 'extras'.
Therefore, writing you can't or won't train or advise them with regard to 'extras' delivery might be the dumbest thing I've heard all week so far.
Do train them, show them, organise practice sessions with willing guys, or at least give them suitable video material to watch - I'm sure people here would happily contribute playlists.... ;) and THAT is what will make your business successful.
Hardly anything else.

[VFlowers]

All I can think about is poor cherry, just getting slandered by the title here all day long.

Can we change the topic to massage boss and customer battle royale instead?

Fuck sake, I been fucked over by many shops.

SSDS I booked a young hot girl one time, she massaged me for 10mins gets called out suddenly, she comes back and goes oh I don't feel well, ill have to let someone else finish I was like eh no problem girls here normally all pretty cute, some bitch looking like she was wheeled out of a senior citizens home comes in to do the rest.

I was thinking where the fuck did this 50+ woman come from, jesus christ so awkward do I demand a refund? do I run for my life? why have I been put in this position.

My young hot booking no doubt got told to go take care of some other guy for some reason and grandma came to me, was I pissed yeah majorly, did I get fucked over yep.

Did I cry scream google one star them, no I declined extras I got up after the massage I left and ive never gone back to that shop again, thats it we don't need to wage war over ever bad punt we experience it's gonna happen, just vote with your feet and never go back.

And now you've also written about it and named the shop - in the wrong thread.
So what, in your valued opinion, should we use this forum for then?
Also, if you just walk and never return, without providing feedback, will anybody notice? Will anything change or improve?
Poppy has already stated that she will provide more training, potential clients have been warned, hopefully more disappointment and conflict has been avoided. Was that not worth doing?
And mind you, I would have loved to settle this privately.

[FredWard63]

....and what have we learned? This shop, like any of the others, has girls that over time gave a service that ranged from excellent through to so so. We have learned that shop owners are human and not perfect and that they do try to learn and get better. We have learned that some punters don't know when to stop and are driven by a sense of self-rightous indignation tinged with a healthy dose of intolerace. We have learned that some punters just let it go through to the keeper, take a pragmatic approach and adjust their future choices accordingly.

[VFlowers]

Guaranteed my last post in this thread:

You hire a gardening business (also an unregulated industry) to tidy up your yards, mow the lawn, prune the hedges etc. You give clear instructions what you want done. The business sends a guy who's never done any gardening work, who has only recently arrived in Australia and hardly speaks any English, and while he spends two hours at your property, he totally messes up your yard and plants, and nothing he's done is of any acceptable standard. You are charged $200.

Will you pay? Will you just let it go? Will you talk to the owner of the business? What if he doesn't respond? What if he just tells you he will try to train the guy better and offers no other remedy? Will you use the business again? Would you write a review?

Anyway, happy punting.
I've had enough for a while.

[FredWard63]

Thank whatever gods there are for that!

[ococpunt]

Interesting thread... I have actually read most of it

What shop owners and MLs DON'T understand or appreciate is that they are providing a $200-300 per hour service and yet they are either untrained or don't care about it

In most cases, MLs just move onto the next shop and scam the next punter who is probably trying to play nice and shop owner takes in another reject/move on from other shops and slaps onto their customers, happy punting lads

[FredWard63]

Interesting thread... I have actually read most of it

What shop owners and MLs DON'T understand or appreciate is that they are providing a $200-300 per hour service and yet they are either untrained or don't care about it

In most cases, MLs just move onto the next shop and scam the next punter who is probably trying to play nice and shop owner takes in another reject/move on from other shops and slaps onto their customers, happy punting lads

Which is why reviews, preferrably short and sharp (personal bias here), are a useful tool by which to identify the good, the okay, the so so, the poor etc. If more reviews were posted then it would limit the ability of poor performers to play that game. By not posting reviews, punters are partly to blame for this state of affairs.

[Bed Wrecker]

If a girl with absolutely no experience or training is let loose in what frankly is close to a brothel, god help her.

It is the managers responsibility to make sure she does not even see a customer until she understands what is expected of her. Including extras.
The best shops have male trainers whose sole role is to guide a new girl in all relevant matters. Some managers will watch these sessions to steer and guide the girl.

If this girl is not suitable to this shop, she should be routed by a very experienced operator to a shop more suiting her style. Or not let loose until she is ready.

If shes still on the roster next week, i will pop in and do what should have been done before she started.
I know enough Japanese to actually help.

The best shops in Brisbane know exactly what each girls range of options is, including for those special customers, and their price points. Its in everyones interests that customers and mls are suitable.

If guys like to fly by the seat of their pants, then they know what happens.
Those fussy fuckers who must have specific services, should engage with shop management.
Good shops will engage back, but some guys need to know their lane and not ask 50 questions or have back and forths for more than 2 messages.

[jeffsouthwell]

This was both amusing and enlightening!

I dunno if anyone else had the thought, but someone tipped off Poppy to this thread...esp given her post count.

...I wonder who that was?

[Staedtler]

If shes still on the roster next week, i will pop in and do what should have been done before she started. .

While you’re in a training frame of mind, can you swing past Acqua and provide some training to the second tier of girls here? Sunny & Fairy’s abilities have certainly not rubbed off on the new girls rotating through there for the last 6-12mths. Maybe volunteer for a recruitment drive

[FredWard63]

While you’re in a training frame of mind, can you swing past Acqua and provide some training to the second tier of girls here? Sunny & Fairy’s abilities have certainly not rubbed off on the new girls rotating through there for the last 6-12mths. Maybe volunteer for a recruitment drive

To be fair. Do you know of a shop in Bris where all the girls are of the Fairy and Sunny standard? If so, please let me know.

[bucketsandchains]

I’m truly sorry that we were unable to match you with someone who suited you.
The shop was busy at the time — 3 out of 4 girls were already with clients — so for bookings made under “anyone,” the available girl is assigned.

She is new, and her massage skills and English may still be a bit awkward, but she is hardworking and cute, and we’ve already received good feedback from other customers about her.

I sent you a text stating that I would re-train her in massage techniques, and while I cannot provide training on anything related to extras,I will take your feedback seriously and pass your concerns on to her in order to improve the situation.

However, you claimed that “no resolution was offered” and that there was “only accusation” based on what I wrote.

Wouldn’t you consider my text message a resolution?
It seems that you focused only on the negative parts of my message and completely overlooked the important points.

I’m truly disappointed.
When I gave you a massage the first time, you told me you wanted to support my business.
I considered you a valued customer.

I know you tried booking a few times afterword, but shop was busy you could not get spot. But since then, you never visited again — and now, after finally returning once, just because one girl didn’t suit your preferences, you went out of your way to leave feed back not only on Aust99, but also a 1-star rating on Google Reviews?

It seems that you have already left a 1-star review on at least four massage shops on Google.

Do you really think that was a mature response?
We are all human — we make mistakes.
Life could be a little easier if you chose to be more understanding, rather than being unnecessarily harsh toward massage shops.

Actually, your feedback email ended up in my spam folder (probably because your email address looked like a random or autogenerated one).
For that, I owe you an apology.

Hopefully , you can find someone who truly satisfies you, Good luck

On a lighter note , what's your handicap sitting at now Poppy???

[Staedtler]

To be fair. Do you know of a shop in Bris where all the girls are of the Fairy and Sunny standard? If so, please let me know.

No, unfortunately, I don’t know of any shops that have a roster full of Sunny’s and Fairy’s standard… but I wasn’t implying on bringing their tier 2 girls up to Sunny and Fairy standard, but simply bring them up to an acceptable standard. A standard that isn’t a terrible massage followed by equally terrible service by a girl that can’t even maintain some acceptable level of grooming (notably, a 10 day growth on the cooch that felt like 20 grit sandpaper rubbing across your skin). All whilst expecting the same payment as a lady that provides very good service. Perhaps management everywhere should implement apprentice rates… until the girl provides a good service they get less pay, just like everyone else in the world.

To be fair, there is one or two other girls at Acqua that are acceptable. But a large majority of Acqua’s new girls over the last several months have been average at best and quite a few have been awful. If it was just one or two over a period of time, you would let it go and not make comment - as is typical across the board, you get below average at all shops. But it seems to be very poor recruiting and training (or lack of) from management’s behalf over a period of time… which seems suitable for this thread.

[Aquaman]

This VFlowers guy is the male equivalent of a Karen. What a massive pain in the arse, an insufferable bore.

[iamking]

I'm not sure why I'm bother entering this fray.
I'm a customer to now 4 shops. Along the way I've dropped some previous regular shops because standards dropped, MLs high turn over, ML very low turn over, shops living off past reputations, and yes bad interactions with MLs. I usually give them a few chances. I tell the owner/manager, and they normally apologise and try setting up a "better" girl. I've been trained on which I enjoyed, and I've had "superstars" that were duds or overpriced leaving me disappointed. I've mentioned some in the past on the forum as well as in PM'S.
I think I am fussy. I pay good money and expect a certain level of service. That does not mean fs or bbbj every single time. Nor do I expect the ML to give me an intimate PS or GF experience every time.
I do expect the girl to look a certain way based on photo, description or recommendation. If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.
Some punters prefer to just duck around, just another fussy to pump, other punters want to feel some connectivity. Some want different compared to home others want to feel like a stud. We all have different reasons.
Poppy as an ML, has been around for a long time to know this, including customers who just want to talk. Poppy as a shop owner is still new, and I'm sure what she envisioned and what some of her loyal punters and defenders say has made her defend her "baby" the way she has. Considering the turnover of MLs in her shop, training beyond massage is essential. If Poppy really wants to be the best around, an extras menu for each girl would go a long way, as well as skill or experience level. If that is too hard go the gold, diamond packages like in some brothels.
As much as I like Poppy the ML, Poppy the owner needs to relax. Defending her shop and MLs on here hasn't reflected well either. Take the good with the bad. Overall most punters have been very positive to Star and most of the girls. No shop has a roster full of diamonds. BTW well said FredWard63
Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

[Staedtler]

If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.


This would be the best way for operators to manage their new staff - and ideally, let people know at the time of booking, not once you’ve driven 30min and handed over the shop fee. The Punter can then either adjust their expectations prior to the session, choose someone else or go elsewhere.

[VFlowers]

Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

Thanks, King!
I didn't want to post here anymore, but now I feel I have to.

My experience was NOT with Cherry. I have since opened a new review thread for the girl I saw.
I only used this thread, because it was here that Poppy attacked another user for not contacting her first after he had a similar experience at her shop. Well, I did and you've all read the rest.

Users, who don't like me or my posts have various very simple options: Don't read and scroll past them. Or, even better, put me on your ignore list, that's what it's there for. Click on my name next to one of my posts, click or tap 'view profile', and then under my avatar picture, click the second option 'Add to Ignore List'. And you will never see any of my posts again.

Have a great weekend.

[jeffsouthwell]

No, unfortunately, I don’t know of any shops that have a roster full of Sunny’s and Fairy’s standard… but I wasn’t implying on bringing their tier 2 girls up to Sunny and Fairy standard, but simply bring them up to an acceptable standard. A standard that isn’t a terrible massage followed by equally terrible service by a girl that can’t even maintain some acceptable level of grooming (notably, a 10 day growth on the cooch that felt like 20 grit sandpaper rubbing across your skin). All whilst expecting the same payment as a lady that provides very good service. Perhaps management everywhere should implement apprentice rates… until the girl provides a good service they get less pay, just like everyone else in the world.

To be fair, there is one or two other girls at Acqua that are acceptable. But a large majority of Acqua’s new girls over the last several months have been average at best and quite a few have been awful. If it was just one or two over a period of time, you would let it go and not make comment - as is typical across the board, you get below average at all shops. But it seems to be very poor recruiting and training (or lack of) from management’s behalf over a period of time… which seems suitable for this thread.

Just vote with your feet (or money!) and go elsewhere. Best way to drive change is $$$

[jeffsouthwell]

I'm not sure why I'm bother entering this fray.
I'm a customer to now 4 shops. Along the way I've dropped some previous regular shops because standards dropped, MLs high turn over, ML very low turn over, shops living off past reputations, and yes bad interactions with MLs. I usually give them a few chances. I tell the owner/manager, and they normally apologise and try setting up a "better" girl. I've been trained on which I enjoyed, and I've had "superstars" that were duds or overpriced leaving me disappointed. I've mentioned some in the past on the forum as well as in PM'S.
I think I am fussy. I pay good money and expect a certain level of service. That does not mean fs or bbbj every single time. Nor do I expect the ML to give me an intimate PS or GF experience every time.
I do expect the girl to look a certain way based on photo, description or recommendation. If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.
Some punters prefer to just duck around, just another fussy to pump, other punters want to feel some connectivity. Some want different compared to home others want to feel like a stud. We all have different reasons.
Poppy as an ML, has been around for a long time to know this, including customers who just want to talk. Poppy as a shop owner is still new, and I'm sure what she envisioned and what some of her loyal punters and defenders say has made her defend her "baby" the way she has. Considering the turnover of MLs in her shop, training beyond massage is essential. If Poppy really wants to be the best around, an extras menu for each girl would go a long way, as well as skill or experience level. If that is too hard go the gold, diamond packages like in some brothels.
As much as I like Poppy the ML, Poppy the owner needs to relax. Defending her shop and MLs on here hasn't reflected well either. Take the good with the bad. Overall most punters have been very positive to Star and most of the girls. No shop has a roster full of diamonds. BTW well said FredWard63
Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

Absolutely spot on king. 100% this.