Influx of jap girls

[Seafood]

Why does it seem like there are so many jap we and ml in shops now, is it so hard to make a living in Japan. Are the girls brought in by agencies on working tours. Spoke to one girl who said she worked in Adelaide, brisbane and Perth. Wow like a concert tour.

[Wayne]

Why does it seem like there are so many jap we and ml in shops now, is it so hard to make a living in Japan. Are the girls brought in by agencies on working tours. Spoke to one girl who said she worked in Adelaide, brisbane and Perth. Wow like a concert tour.

Exchange rates, free trade agreements, Trump and China. Japan has a dramatically falling population, triggering a slide in its economy just as China’s economic growth has slowed and you’ve got a convicted rapist in the White House. Amounting to a perfect wave for Japanese lovelies to surf their way into Australian brothels.

[HiredGoon]

Insert ChadDunderthock quote about host club debt here...

[de69]

Insert ChadDunderthock quote about host club debt here...

bahahahahha thats gold... yea waiting for him to catch onto this thread LOL

[andrewv]

Why does it seem like there are so many jap we and ml in shops now, is it so hard to make a living in Japan. Are the girls brought in by agencies on working tours. Spoke to one girl who said she worked in Adelaide, brisbane and Perth. Wow like a concert tour.

1. Japanese girls do not make as much working in Tokyo shops as they do in Sydney shops, with the same number of men. In Australia, they are "premium" product and get much more.
2. They actually like to travel, and they fund their trips plus save money to take back home.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis for these girls. Remember, in Japan, most of the girls look like the ones you pay $300+ for in Australia. Nothing special about them.

[jenlai29]

1. Japanese girls do not make as much working in Tokyo shops as they do in Sydney shops, with the same number of men. In Australia, they are "premium" product and get much more.
2. They actually like to travel, and they fund their trips plus save money to take back home.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis for these girls. Remember, in Japan, most of the girls look like the ones you pay $300+ for in Australia. Nothing special about them.

Yep, I agree! We are definitely paying the premium plus import tax!

[Endo123]

1. Japanese girls do not make as much working in Tokyo shops as they do in Sydney shops, with the same number of men. In Australia, they are "premium" product and get much more.
2. They actually like to travel, and they fund their trips plus save money to take back home.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis for these girls. Remember, in Japan, most of the girls look like the ones you pay $300+ for in Australia. Nothing special about them.

Interesting, I could be wrong, but a cursory glance at their rates in Tokyo indicated the rates were similar. So maybe they get less of a cut over there than here.

[HiredGoon]

Yep, I agree! We are definitely paying the premium plus import tax!

Kinda curious to know what the fuck you're talking about.

[jenlai29]

Kinda curious to know what the fuck you're talking about.

When I was in Japan this year, I paid about half the amount we would pay here. Our prices are definitely premium for the selection we get.

[MrPB]

1. Japanese girls do not make as much working in Tokyo shops as they do in Sydney shops, with the same number of men. In Australia, they are "premium" product and get much more.
2. They actually like to travel, and they fund their trips plus save money to take back home.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis for these girls. Remember, in Japan, most of the girls look like the ones you pay $300+ for in Australia. Nothing special about them.

I think this is the most likely answer and from general chats, what most girls are here for.

[Wayne]

I think this is the most likely answer and from general chats, what most girls are here for.

Yes, seems so. One of the current Ginza girls was telling me she’s been to 54 countries. Not for work, just so she could say she’d been to these places.

[GoldfishMan]

1. Japanese girls do not make as much working in Tokyo shops as they do in Sydney shops, with the same number of men. In Australia, they are "premium" product and get much more.
2. They actually like to travel, and they fund their trips plus save money to take back home.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis for these girls. Remember, in Japan, most of the girls look like the ones you pay $300+ for in Australia. Nothing special about them.

That applies to girls who work this trade in Japan.
For those that don't and have other regular jobs there, which in my experience constitutes the bulk of the FIFO girls, I think the biggest attraction for them is they get to earn the big $$$ here anonymously without the risk of meeting acquaintances. Salaries in Japan for regular jobs are notoriously low, just take a look at job ads on LinkedIn. Typical Asian salary range.

[Smack]

Exchange rates, free trade agreements, Trump and China. Japan has a dramatically falling population, triggering a slide in its economy just as China’s economic growth has slowed and you’ve got a convicted rapist in the White House. Amounting to a perfect wave for Japanese lovelies to surf their way into Australian brothels.

Who is the convicted rapist ?and when was the conviction ? and what was the sentence?

[puntmewarrior]

Mainly the currency has taken a beating the last few years and economy down too

[ChadThunderrcock]

Japan is a wealthy country. Probably even wealthier than our country

Japanese girls are not living in poverty and are not forced into prostitution because of lack of opportunities like in poor Third World countries. They can easily make a comfortable living working a normal job just like all the normal non-WL girls.

They do it to pay off their massive host club debts and to keep supporting their favourite Japanese host/idol.

[HiredGoon]

Japan is a wealthy country. Probably even wealthier than our country

Japanese girls are not living in poverty and are not forced into prostitution because of lack of opportunities like in poor Third World countries. They can easily make a comfortable living working a normal job just like all the normal non-WL girls.

They do it to pay off their massive host club debts and to keep supporting their favourite Japanese host/idol.

There he is! Where you dropped on your head as a child?

[KakeyA]

I’m in Tokyo right now. I can head to Okubo, pick up a freelancer from the park and pay JOY150,000 - 200,000 pay for a love hotel and do BBJ CIM for an hour, that money goes all to the girls. The ones that do delivery health have to pay for the driver to take them there and back and have the company take a bigger cut.
Salaries have not gone up but the cost of living really has. I can se why coming to Australia in the Japanese winter would be so attractive

[Meng]

I’m in Tokyo right now. I can head to Okubo, pick up a freelancer from the park and pay JOY150,000 - 200,000 pay for a love hotel and do BBJ CIM for an hour, that money goes all to the girls. The ones that do delivery health have to pay for the driver to take them there and back and have the company take a bigger cut.
Salaries have not gone up but the cost of living really has. I can se why coming to Australia in the Japanese winter would be so attractive

Do you mean 15,000 -20,000? Your price listed above is like 1.5k -2k AUD for 1 hour lol.

[andrewv]

I’m in Tokyo right now. I can head to Okubo, pick up a freelancer from the park and pay JOY150,000 - 200,000 pay for a love hotel and do BBJ CIM for an hour, that money goes all to the girls. The ones that do delivery health have to pay for the driver to take them there and back and have the company take a bigger cut.
Salaries have not gone up but the cost of living really has. I can se why coming to Australia in the Japanese winter would be so attractive

Are you sure you meant 200,000 yen? That's about $2,000 Aussie dollars. One digit too many?!

[GoldfishMan]

Maybe JOY is a different type of currency, lollll!

[Joun23]

Most Jap WL/ML don't have uni degrees so impossible to get a job that pays good salaries. They come here to support their family and kids, making money to pay tuition fees and of course some for payong debts and buying luxury goods.
My old Jap regulars told me:
rates would be similar but more profits and customers
paying no income tax
no risk of bumping into friends, families and acquaintances
They tell their friends and families that they work at cafe or restaurants in Aus and earn good money.

[ChadThunderrcock]

I’m in Tokyo right now. I can head to Okubo, pick up a freelancer from the park and pay JOY150,000 - 200,000 pay for a love hotel and do BBJ CIM for an hour, that money goes all to the girls. The ones that do delivery health have to pay for the driver to take them there and back and have the company take a bigger cut.
Salaries have not gone up but the cost of living really has. I can se why coming to Australia in the Japanese winter would be so attractive

I heard these Freelancers are not that good. Other punters who tried said they only let you go one round. And alot of times. No DFK or anything else. Just a quickie basically. They leave once you're done. It can be 20 minutes. It can be one hour.

[KakeyA]

Are you sure you meant 200,000 yen? That's about $2,000 Aussie dollars. One digit too many?!

Totally stuffed that up didn’t I.
One too many zeros. 15,000 -20,000 yen plus rental for love hotel for about 6,000 yen. I can speak good Japanese, much better than I can do maths apparently.
I’m here with my wife, who won’t pay for data roaming which gives me some time to do my own thing when she catches up with friends. No IPhone tracking what happiness.
Not all places accept credit cards so I’ve got a bunch of cash that I’m controlling so I’m in paradise but I can’t use delivery health due to the security building that I’m in and credit cards but I’m off topic.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

Japanese women are rubbish service. Don't fall for that innocent pretentious act.

[stallionmachine123]

Japanese women are rubbish service. Don't fall for that innocent pretentious act.

I saw Moe from MAC who gave me good service and then the following week saw someone else who isn’t Jap.

Angela goes to me huh you waste your money with Japanese.

Weird cookie Angela lol

[Apha1401]

can anyone comment on new girl Asuka at 331concord. Her photo screams fc2ppv but can't find if it's fake or real photo.

[priapus1966]

It's worth remembering that a Japanese girl can work in Oz for few weeks and she will not pay much, if any tax on those earnings.

[Wayne]

I’ve spent a bit of time in Japan recently and its economy is shot. Heaps of stats tell the story - declining population, zero growth, CPI going backward at speed. And then there is the favourable relationship it has with the Australian government and our great image. Little wonder these Japanese girls jump on an opportunity to make a few quick bucks down here. What’s been commented on before is that most of the girls are indebted and it’s an easy way for them to solve the problem. Personally, I’m more than happy to help.

[GoldfishMan]

I’ve spent a bit of time in Japan recently and its economy is shot. Heaps of stats tell the story - declining population, zero growth, CPI going backward at speed. And then there is the favourable relationship it has with the Australian government and our great image. Little wonder these Japanese girls jump on an opportunity to make a few quick bucks down here. What’s been commented on before is that most of the girls are indebted and it’s an easy way for them to solve the problem. Personally, I’m more than happy to help.

Yeah, very difficult to see them get out of the vicious cycle they've been on since their crash in the 90s.
Don't forget, they were the second largest economy at their peak. The fall to 4th clearly shows the trajectory that they're on and it must hurt everyone there in terms of their living standards.

[Wayne]

Yeah, very difficult to see them get out of the vicious cycle they've been on since their crash in the 90s.
Don't forget, they were the second largest economy at their peak. The fall to 4th clearly shows the trajectory that they're on and it must hurt everyone there in terms of their living standards.

Once had a business lunch with a very high level Sony executive who told me Japan’s critical mistake was not understanding the impact personal computing would have. The consequence was that its world-leading electronics industry missed the mobile phone tsunami. They basically lost the race to the Europeans and Americans. One of several reasons for their economic decline. Think the innate Japanese xenophobia is a major issue and their refusal to allow immigrants. Another issue I’ve heard of is Japanese women’s late entry to the feminist revolution. Whereas the 60s was when western women started getting equal pay and property rights - and especially critically, access to cheap contraception - this didn’t happen in Japan until relatively recently. Nowadays Japanese women are playing catchup, not interested in marriage and child rearing. You’re right, can’t see how they can arrest their decline.

[GoldfishMan]

Once had a business lunch with a very high level Sony executive who told me Japan’s critical mistake was not understanding the impact personal computing would have. The consequence was that its world-leading electronics industry missed the mobile phone tsunami. They basically lost the race to the Europeans and Americans. One of several reasons for their economic decline. Think the innate Japanese xenophobia is a major issue and their refusal to allow immigrants. Another issue I’ve heard of is Japanese women’s late entry to the feminist revolution. Whereas the 60s was when western women started getting equal pay and property rights - and especially critically, access to cheap contraception - this didn’t happen in Japan until relatively recently. Nowadays Japanese women are playing catchup, not interested in marriage and child rearing. You’re right, can’t see how they can arrest their decline.

Agreed about immigration, but I think it might not be entirely their own doing. Current net immigration is about 180k with a total population of about 124 million. That's a pitiful number and it's even considered a "high number" compared to previous years. They are well known for being xenophobic, but on the other hand the salaries in Japan are really low compared to global salaries for the same roles. I mean so low that you would have second thoughts about going there to make a living if you were in another developed country.

The mobile phone tsunami, I think you meant the smartphone tsunami? Cos they were a strong player in mobile phones before the Blackberries and Iphones hit the market. Sony Ericsson was still a big player around the time the Iphone 3 came out.

[Wayne]

The mobile phone tsunami, I think you meant the smartphone tsunami? Cos they were a strong player in mobile phones before the Blackberries and Iphones hit the market. Sony Ericsson was still a big player around the time the Iphone 3 came out.

Sony had to get into bed with Ericsson because they miscalculated the marketability of mobile phones. That was actually the topic of my conversation with the Sony exec. They had developed a mobile data device, PHS, but soon realised it did not have the scalability of the GSM systems. It was a real “oh shit” moment for them. They scrambled but missed the greatest marketing opportunity of the 90s. Then Jobs leapfrogged over both the Europeans and the Japanese with his first iPhone. The Koreans realised what was going on, and with their access to US military codes, gave Samsung a critical advantage over Japanese manufacturers. Now of course, Chinese companies have caught up and passed them all. The electronics industry once underpinned Japanese exports but that is simply not the case and longer. They’ve lost their great advantage.

[chemistry84]

Yen is weaker, most of these girls have looked outwards for gigs as someone pointed up they make more money in AUS then they would do in Japan shops.

And funnily enough I have gotten BBBJ/CIM from one Japanese girl that was a wedding planner back home and another that is a qualified nurse too! Kinda mental if you think about it.

[Sinkie]

The last Jap girl I saw said Japanese men have no money. Her words, not mine. Then I googled Japanese Salary after tax, I think she's telling the truth

[jenlai29]

Yen is weaker, most of these girls have looked outwards for gigs as someone pointed up they make more money in AUS then they would do in Japan shops.

And funnily enough I have gotten BBBJ/CIM from one Japanese girl that was a wedding planner back home and another that is a qualified nurse too! Kinda mental if you think about it.

Yeah, it seems like the economy is quite bad. I’ve been with plenty of girls who have normal jobs back in Japan. It’s much less common to come by true Japanese brothel girls that come here to Aus

[KakeyA]

Yen is weaker, most of these girls have looked outwards for gigs as someone pointed up they make more money in AUS then they would do in Japan shops.

And funnily enough I have gotten BBBJ/CIM from one Japanese girl that was a wedding planner back home and another that is a qualified nurse too! Kinda mental if you think about it.

Look I'm in my 50's so it is not like I hang out with young Japanese, but I have a good Japanese friend that is 49 that I have known since I was about 25, and she has a lot of parties at her place and invites all these young Japanese girls there, and all of them, without exception are nurses that have studied their arses off to get qualified, seen that being a nurse in Japan is either looking after the really old, or being stuck under male doctors that want to get in their pants, are on crap salaries and work really bad hours.
They come over there, spend a year or two trying to get good enough at English to pass the exam to convert their qualifications to Australia to stay. It is not much of a wonder that some are willing to supplement their income with a little "physical labour" here to get them through it.

I always wondered if I would meet one of them at a massage and figured if I did, that they won't tell my friend as to do that, they would need to let on that they are a WL/ML but that would be an awkward meeting but it would probably enhance my excitement at the time, and more so the next time I met them

[KakeyA]

OK, so my wife was out with some friends last night so I finally got some free time. She isn't using international data roaming so no issues with her knowing where I was (she can track my location).
I went down to Shin Okubo to where the Tachinbo's were and watched the guys coming and going before I settled on someone and talked to them.
I asked her now much and it was 1.5 (JPY15,000) for sex with a condom and 2 (JPY20,000) for BB. I asked how long that got me and she told me I got to come once and anymore I had to pay more.
I agreed and we walked around the corner towards a love hotel (JPY3,000) and chatted with the girl. She was 22, from Akita (up North) and a uni student and her parents didn't have that much money so she had to supplement her baito (part time job) with this work to cover the rent and for extra spending. She told me she had only been doing this for about 6 weeks but god knows how true that was.
She was about 155 cm in height, very slim and with long black hair (Ok, I just described the typical 22 year old female) with an average ok face, nothing to write home about and pretty made up with those nails that they love to do.
I opted for protected sex as I'm married and bringing an STD home is a quick route to a divorce.
I was conscious of the fact that I was leaving all my belongings in the room with her so I asked her to shower together with me, which was a great thing as she started off by ensuring that my off fella was really clean, got me all soaped up and rubbed me up and down for a few minutes before washing me off and toweling me dry.
Went to the bed and and she started to give me a hand job, but I wanted to prolong as much as I could if I was only going to get one shot off, so I started touching her too. She had really small breasts, about B cups, but with these really big nipples that stuck out a fair bit so I started playing with them and moved down to play with her and get her wet. She started to really enjoy that so I kept going and spent about 5 minutes and she was making these really excited sounds, arching her hips and then she said she was coming. I'm no mind reader but her pussy was clinching really hard around my fingers, so I took her word for it.
She recovered, started kissing me, kissing my nipples (not sure why Japanese girls like that and I am not really a fan TBH) and giving me a hand job. Slipped on the dom, and I slowly entered, and by that stage I was really enjoying so did a bit in mish, asked her to turn over and did doggy and she was super skinny, could really see her rib cage. I was getting really excited so I went back to mish and came.
She was then pretty quick to finish up, get dressed and go back to the street, makes sense, as she only gets paid her deed, so hanging around with me takes time way from the next customer.

Was fun, but a little bit rushed, and lacking any connection as she knew I was never going to see her again. Would I do this again? I think if I do again, I will try to go to an establishment. There are lots of pink salons around where I am staying (about 10 minutes walk) and I would (will) probably wander over. I am not entirely sure, but I think pink salons are more like booths where you can get a hand job. Have to wander over and see what happens next time my wife catches up with her friends.

[Wayne]

OK, so my wife was out with some friends last night so I finally got some free time. She isn't using international data roaming so no issues with her knowing where I was (she can track my location).
I went down to Shin Okubo to where the Tachinbo's were and watched the guys coming and going before I settled on someone and talked to them.
I asked her now much and it was 1.5 (JPY15,000) for sex with a condom and 2 (JPY20,000) for BB. I asked how long that got me and she told me I got to come once and anymore I had to pay more.
I agreed and we walked around the corner towards a love hotel (JPY3,000) and chatted with the girl. She was 22, from Akita (up North) and a uni student and her parents didn't have that much money so she had to supplement her baito (part time job) with this work to cover the rent and for extra spending. She told me she had only been doing this for about 6 weeks but god knows how true that was.
She was about 155 cm in height, very slim and with long black hair (Ok, I just described the typical 22 year old female) with an average ok face, nothing to write home about and pretty made up with those nails that they love to do.
I opted for protected sex as I'm married and bringing an STD home is a quick route to a divorce.
I was conscious of the fact that I was leaving all my belongings in the room with her so I asked her to shower together with me, which was a great thing as she started off by ensuring that my off fella was really clean, got me all soaped up and rubbed me up and down for a few minutes before washing me off and toweling me dry.
Went to the bed and and she started to give me a hand job, but I wanted to prolong as much as I could if I was only going to get one shot off, so I started touching her too. She had really small breasts, about B cups, but with these really big nipples that stuck out a fair bit so I started playing with them and moved down to play with her and get her wet. She started to really enjoy that so I kept going and spent about 5 minutes and she was making these really excited sounds, arching her hips and then she said she was coming. I'm no mind reader but her pussy was clinching really hard around my fingers, so I took her word for it.
She recovered, started kissing me, kissing my nipples (not sure why Japanese girls like that and I am not really a fan TBH) and giving me a hand job. Slipped on the dom, and I slowly entered, and by that stage I was really enjoying so did a bit in mish, asked her to turn over and did doggy and she was super skinny, could really see her rib cage. I was getting really excited so I went back to mish and came.
She was then pretty quick to finish up, get dressed and go back to the street, makes sense, as she only gets paid her deed, so hanging around with me takes time way from the next customer.

Was fun, but a little bit rushed, and lacking any connection as she knew I was never going to see her again. Would I do this again? I think if I do again, I will try to go to an establishment. There are lots of pink salons around where I am staying (about 10 minutes walk) and I would (will) probably wander over. I am not entirely sure, but I think pink salons are more like booths where you can get a hand job. Have to wander over and see what happens next time my wife catches up with her friends.

Great report, thanks for posting. I agree that’s is generally better if the worker knows - or at least thinks - you’ll see her again. I’ve always found the sex is just better than with one offs.

[sloaneranger]

OK, so my wife was out with some friends last night so I finally got some free time. She isn't using international data roaming so no issues with her knowing where I was (she can track my location).
I went down to Shin Okubo to where the Tachinbo's were and watched the guys coming and going before I settled on someone and talked to them.
I asked her now much and it was 1.5 (JPY15,000) for sex with a condom and 2 (JPY20,000) for BB. I asked how long that got me and she told me I got to come once and anymore I had to pay more.
I agreed and we walked around the corner towards a love hotel (JPY3,000) and chatted with the girl. She was 22, from Akita (up North) and a uni student and her parents didn't have that much money so she had to supplement her baito (part time job) with this work to cover the rent and for extra spending. She told me she had only been doing this for about 6 weeks but god knows how true that was.
She was about 155 cm in height, very slim and with long black hair (Ok, I just described the typical 22 year old female) with an average ok face, nothing to write home about and pretty made up with those nails that they love to do.
I opted for protected sex as I'm married and bringing an STD home is a quick route to a divorce.
I was conscious of the fact that I was leaving all my belongings in the room with her so I asked her to shower together with me, which was a great thing as she started off by ensuring that my off fella was really clean, got me all soaped up and rubbed me up and down for a few minutes before washing me off and toweling me dry.
Went to the bed and and she started to give me a hand job, but I wanted to prolong as much as I could if I was only going to get one shot off, so I started touching her too. She had really small breasts, about B cups, but with these really big nipples that stuck out a fair bit so I started playing with them and moved down to play with her and get her wet. She started to really enjoy that so I kept going and spent about 5 minutes and she was making these really excited sounds, arching her hips and then she said she was coming. I'm no mind reader but her pussy was clinching really hard around my fingers, so I took her word for it.
She recovered, started kissing me, kissing my nipples (not sure why Japanese girls like that and I am not really a fan TBH) and giving me a hand job. Slipped on the dom, and I slowly entered, and by that stage I was really enjoying so did a bit in mish, asked her to turn over and did doggy and she was super skinny, could really see her rib cage. I was getting really excited so I went back to mish and came.
She was then pretty quick to finish up, get dressed and go back to the street, makes sense, as she only gets paid her deed, so hanging around with me takes time way from the next customer.

Was fun, but a little bit rushed, and lacking any connection as she knew I was never going to see her again. Would I do this again? I think if I do again, I will try to go to an establishment. There are lots of pink salons around where I am staying (about 10 minutes walk) and I would (will) probably wander over. I am not entirely sure, but I think pink salons are more like booths where you can get a hand job. Have to wander over and see what happens next time my wife catches up with her friends.



Thanks KakeyA. Curious if you are or at least speak Japanese? I strolled round Okubo a couple months back and saw some VERY enticing tachinbos but didnt have much time plus wasn't sure if the non Japanese thing would be an issue. It's definitely a risky way to punt but there's definitely a thrill to it I'm keen to explore next time im in Tokyo.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Yeah, it seems like the economy is quite bad. I’ve been with plenty of girls who have normal jobs back in Japan. It’s much less common to come by true Japanese brothel girls that come here to Aus

Got nothing to do with the Economy my friend.

Its all Host Club debts that they have to pay off and they need to keep earning to be able to keep visiting their favourite hosts back in Japan.

[KakeyA]

Thanks KakeyA. Curious if you are or at least speak Japanese? I strolled round Okubo a couple months back and saw some VERY enticing tachinbos but didnt have much time plus wasn't sure if the non Japanese thing would be an issue. It's definitely a risky way to punt but there's definitely a thrill to it I'm keen to explore next time im in Tokyo.

Hey Sloneranger
IÂ’m an Aussie Caucasian but I speak fluent Japanese.
The Tachinbos in Shin Okubo used to all be Chinese or SE Asian but now they are exclusively Japanese.
I think itÂ’d be hard to talk, negotiate and deal with one of them unless they spoke reasonable English or you spoke Japanese a bit.
The google translate on a phone would probably not be that attractive to anyone and even then, you appear as a risk to them.

However there are plenty of places on this forum that introduce you to escort agencies that speak English and will come to your place.

For me, I donÂ’t use them as I am married and staying in a monthly apartment with my wife so I wonÂ’t risk bringing someone back here as my wife would 100% spring me

My wife has a few nights planned over the next few weeks where she goes out with friends so when IÂ’ve been walking back from the train station IÂ’ve been eyeing out a few places that offer male only massages so IÂ’ll try those, get a massage and see what happens from there.

I reckon for you the English speaking escorts are probably the best way to start