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WhoreMonger69
20-07-2025, 02:38 PM
I just made an account after lurking in this forum for years and wanted to ask something from the punters on this forum

I have become too used to Ginza service that i don't think seeing a western/white girl is worth it.

How hard is it to find a western/white girl that will do bbj, dfk basically everything they do at Ginza except for rimming because i don't expect them to do that.

Escorts are not an option, im not that rich unfortunately.

I had my eye on Amanda Heavens and Miss Heavens and would like some intel on that place or any other shops that might have western talent that is worth seeing.

Cant even ask Western shops the question without getting told to fuck off so yeah.

Thanks and apologies if my formatting is bad.

ergoproxy
21-07-2025, 05:09 AM
I’ve pondered on this before as well before. Having used to seeing asians in n5m, and frequent visits from ginza, I wouldn’t ever try seeing a western girl.

But that all changed lol. I added in upmarket bathhouse in my rotation years ago (I haven’t been back in a long while after the price increase) and met some great western girls that made me visit them more often than I thought I would.

It’s a different kind of itch. Now that I punt much less than before, I’m quite selective on who I go to. I have a western and an Asian (whom I’m waiting to come back) that I always see now. I rarely try/sample new ones now, unless vetted by the pros here.

With regards to miss heavens, (I’ve not been to Amanda) best you go in and have look at the line up. Ask for the full one. I rocked up once and was introduced to them all properly. I got French kissed by half of them just having viewed the lineup. Then you’ll see who you connect with. Rooms are elegant. Much like a 5 star hotel. I ended up frequenting the Asian in the lineup - Naru.

So to answer your question, it will be hard until you find that right one la. Dont expect them to deliver as well as the asians. Just my 2 cents.

Others maybe able to shed some more light on this. I’ve seen some punters review girls from ATMC. Their lineup on westerns look solid.

Migala
21-07-2025, 06:09 AM
Storm used to work at Ginza. She is definitely one of the best that includes lots of dfk and diamond services, but she's gone. I heard she's back working on other places, but I've been attracted to Asian girls that I'm not seeing western girls anymore

justincase
21-07-2025, 08:52 AM
I can see only one benefit in punting a western woman, but I've forgotten it.

fnmfnmfnm
21-07-2025, 09:12 AM
Only western girls worth it are the undervalued ones who do privates. I’ve got a good western girl who does outcalls in her place for $400 an hour and basically everything except for BB and anal on the table.

Every other western girl is overpriced and usually not service led. Asians are, on the whole, more consistent and reliable as well as cheaper

fixatedperson
21-07-2025, 01:08 PM
I started fucking Asians because Western WLs are too expensive but I now prefer them.

I have seen an older Western WL who was ok. I would like to try a younger Western ML but there are so many Asian WLs I never seem to get around to it.

Jollyrogermench
22-07-2025, 07:44 PM
Asians are much more submissive and compliant than western girls. Once you go Asian you don’t go back.

Veets
23-07-2025, 07:27 AM
From my experiences with full service
99% of my best were westerners
I have had a couple of shitty attitudes from western girls but they still got the job done cold.
Asians have denied myself certain positions or denied me penetrating at all due to size and I find the super star Asian girls who are hot favourites love their routines and have to be in control as itÂ’s a transaction and they wonÂ’t to do their job/act.
Anytime I disrupt their control by switching things up the mask of them enjoying it slips and they show signs of frustration or worse.

On the massage front Asians are the only choice and are always the most fun