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WhoreMonger69
20-07-2025, 02:38 PM
I just made an account after lurking in this forum for years and wanted to ask something from the punters on this forum

I have become too used to Ginza service that i don't think seeing a western/white girl is worth it.

How hard is it to find a western/white girl that will do bbj, dfk basically everything they do at Ginza except for rimming because i don't expect them to do that.

Escorts are not an option, im not that rich unfortunately.

I had my eye on Amanda Heavens and Miss Heavens and would like some intel on that place or any other shops that might have western talent that is worth seeing.

Cant even ask Western shops the question without getting told to fuck off so yeah.

Thanks and apologies if my formatting is bad.

ergoproxy
21-07-2025, 05:09 AM
I’ve pondered on this before as well before. Having used to seeing asians in n5m, and frequent visits from ginza, I wouldn’t ever try seeing a western girl.

But that all changed lol. I added in upmarket bathhouse in my rotation years ago (I haven’t been back in a long while after the price increase) and met some great western girls that made me visit them more often than I thought I would.

It’s a different kind of itch. Now that I punt much less than before, I’m quite selective on who I go to. I have a western and an Asian (whom I’m waiting to come back) that I always see now. I rarely try/sample new ones now, unless vetted by the pros here.

With regards to miss heavens, (I’ve not been to Amanda) best you go in and have look at the line up. Ask for the full one. I rocked up once and was introduced to them all properly. I got French kissed by half of them just having viewed the lineup. Then you’ll see who you connect with. Rooms are elegant. Much like a 5 star hotel. I ended up frequenting the Asian in the lineup - Naru.

So to answer your question, it will be hard until you find that right one la. Dont expect them to deliver as well as the asians. Just my 2 cents.

Others maybe able to shed some more light on this. I’ve seen some punters review girls from ATMC. Their lineup on westerns look solid.

Migala
21-07-2025, 06:09 AM
Storm used to work at Ginza. She is definitely one of the best that includes lots of dfk and diamond services, but she's gone. I heard she's back working on other places, but I've been attracted to Asian girls that I'm not seeing western girls anymore

justincase
21-07-2025, 08:52 AM
I can see only one benefit in punting a western woman, but I've forgotten it.

fnmfnmfnm
21-07-2025, 09:12 AM
Edited for interest

fixatedperson
21-07-2025, 01:08 PM
I started fucking Asians because Western WLs are too expensive but I now prefer them.

I have seen an older Western WL who was ok. I would like to try a younger Western ML but there are so many Asian WLs I never seem to get around to it.

Jollyrogermench
22-07-2025, 07:44 PM
Asians are much more submissive and compliant than western girls. Once you go Asian you don’t go back.

Veets
23-07-2025, 07:27 AM
From my experiences with full service
99% of my best were westerners
I have had a couple of shitty attitudes from western girls but they still got the job done cold.
Asians have denied myself certain positions or denied me penetrating at all due to size and I find the super star Asian girls who are hot favourites love their routines and have to be in control as itÂ’s a transaction and they wonÂ’t to do their job/act.
Anytime I disrupt their control by switching things up the mask of them enjoying it slips and they show signs of frustration or worse.

On the massage front Asians are the only choice and are always the most fun

Adamhaha
23-11-2025, 10:38 AM
Storm used to work at Ginza. She is definitely one of the best that includes lots of dfk and diamond services, but she's gone. I heard she's back working on other places, but I've been attracted to Asian girls that I'm not seeing western girls anymore

Bro do you know where Strom is working now? Appreciate it

Migala
23-11-2025, 09:32 PM
Bro do you know where Strom is working now? Appreciate it

She must be in her home right now, lol.

Last time, a punter told me that she was working at Centrefolds, but now it seems she's not rostered there anymore.

forgotmyumbrella
24-11-2025, 05:24 AM
Ginza literally has French girls on the roster right now.
Western girls are just more expensive. Can't expect the same service for the same rate and of course you'll end up disappointed. Just basic logic

ditchtheboss
24-11-2025, 07:15 AM
In my experience Western girls are more worth as sugar babies rather than WLs. I get more than diamond type experience with western SBs in comparison to what they offer in the shops. The key is to just build rapport and the proverbial doors to fun open wide

Namewastaken
24-11-2025, 04:38 PM
Bro do you know where Strom is working now? Appreciate it

Is this the deaf Storm? I saw her up the coast near Coffs Harbour last year, I think she lives up that way but travels on occasion. Haven't heard from her since last year though

alexgab
28-11-2025, 12:35 PM
Most of Western girls Vagina is like fucking a Sock.

putsputs
28-11-2025, 04:25 PM
Is this the deaf Storm? I saw her up the coast near Coffs Harbour last year, I think she lives up that way but travels on occasion. Haven't heard from her since last year though

Storm's service was amazing, definitely on par with the top Korean and Japanese girls. Hoping she comes back

woodland
28-11-2025, 10:23 PM
there was a girl on scarlet blue called Lily Evans (also Isaballa Cooper) she was excellent. if anyone knows if she is still in the business, let me know

AUSSIEHOTGUY
29-11-2025, 01:08 AM
Most of Western girls Vagina is like fucking a Sock.

Lol. Any particular type of sock - footballers?
Must be very loose and abrasive.

My last Cauc that I fucked was in 2008. Its been all Asians since and I'm not going back.

Asians have better bodies, tighter and smoother skin, smell and taste better. And most of all know how to please a man and keep their mouths shut.

Sure there the rare occasional ones that complain that my 'cock is too big', that I 'fucka too long', and that her 'pussy no good' etc.

But any punter who's been in the game long enough knows Asians are the better value for money. Anywhere in the world. period.

88bangbang
29-11-2025, 04:11 AM
Is this the deaf Storm? I saw her up the coast near Coffs Harbour last year, I think she lives up that way but travels on occasion. Haven't heard from her since last year though

This reminds me I was stupid enough to knock on the door at Ginza to check it was okay to come in.

Rogerram
29-11-2025, 06:39 AM
Worst part of most western WLs I have seen is that before the punt they take you to a light and inspect your Johnson for diseases. It's a massive turn off.

BiggieSmalls
29-11-2025, 12:36 PM
How hard is it to find a western/white girl that will do bbj, dfk basically everything they do at Ginza except for rimming because i don't expect them to do that.

Escorts are not an option, im not that rich unfortunately.



Unfortunately that’s the problem. I don’t think it’s the level of service that is the issue. You can get what you want! It will just cost you a lot more and you’re likely to get knocked back more at any price.

Personally I think the idea of rating a whole race of WLs service in big groups is silly but generally with Western WLs you’ll either need to pay more or lower your standards a lot.

I like seeing both Asian and Western WLs. You just need different expectations of the service you’ll receive (unless you have $ to burn). Asian is better for PSE with BBBJs and CIM etc. I think Western is better for a more real experience (GFE I guess). Less fake moaning, less fake bubbly enthusiasm and less lube haha.

I think Western WLs have stepped up their game though. Ten years ago you always had to pay extra for DATY, kissing or sometimes even nipple licking. This is sometimes included now so hopefully that trend continues.

Mojo
29-11-2025, 04:08 PM
Worst part of most western WLs I have seen is that before the punt they take you to a light and inspect your Johnson for diseases. It's a massive turn off.
True. I don't know what to make of that inspection routine. From my limited cauc experience is that you should also check for any nasty odours too.

acinom
29-11-2025, 07:34 PM
Most of Western girls Vagina is like fucking a Sock.

Do you fuck socks often bro?

Ron the rimmer
30-11-2025, 05:37 PM
Do you fuck socks often bro?

Another fucked up moron response

GoldfishMan
30-11-2025, 05:50 PM
One thing about them that puts me off is the body hair. Especially blonde or fair haired girls. They tend to be quite hairy on the forearms but it's hard to spot it from afar. Asian girls are a lot less hairy around their body.