The Real Issues After Dating a Massage Girl

[shaneOppa896]

Just wondering what others think.

If you end up in a relationship with a massage girl, how do you handle it?

Things like the nature of the job, trust, and future complications a— do they become hidden sources of stress?

Anyone been in this situation or thought about it seriously? Would love to hear your take.

[JR_punter]

I had a casual relationship with a ML a while ago.

Was never going to be long term, but I liked to hear the stories of what she got up to, and some of the customers she encounted.
Lot of weird people out there, including me. hahaha.

Anyway yeah you wouldnt want to be too serious about it.

[Keep'n'itgoing]

It takes a certain type of person to handle it. I don't think many could do it but a surprising number of MLs have boyfriends or husbands.

You need to set the boundaries and have a certain amount of trust but it is still hard to do.

The stories they have are out there and you hear about the types of customers that frankly need to be educated on how to be a member of society.

You do get to hear the inside scoop on shop owners and girls.

Keep'n

[CumShot]

I'm not so interested in fellow punters.

What I found with my massage girl experiences is about priority. There is something that happens to her by being exposed to 7-8 cocks per day and what that does to their mind.

[L3xLuthor]

Why would you want to put yourself through that type of hell?! Unless you are ok with having the knowledge that your missus is fondling (like cumshot mentioned) possibly 7-8 cocks a day and thats a watered down image

[Amazoneddy]

Just wondering what others think.

If you end up in a relationship with a massage girl, how do you handle it?

Things like the nature of the job, trust, and future complications a— do they become hidden sources of stress?

Anyone been in this situation or thought about it seriously? Would love to hear your take.

I live with a girl reviewed in these pages. It’s fantastic seeing here everyday. In the shower, in bed. Yes guys pay to see her. I know what she does with cocks. At times I get jealous about full service customers. But it’s just a money transaction. I see the girl over dinner, hear her thoughts and dreams. I met her as a customer. I wanted more. She tells me what happens, so I trust her. Some days I get stressed about the sex. But I see her undress at home. Go out with her. The sex is great.

[Cmnothingelse]

I live with a girl reviewed in these pages. It’s fantastic seeing here everyday. In the shower, in bed. Yes guys pay to see her. I know what she does with cocks. At times I get jealous about full service customers. But it’s just a money transaction. I see the girl over dinner, hear her thoughts and dreams. I met her as a customer. I wanted more. She tells me what happens, so I trust her. Some days I get stressed about the sex. But I see her undress at home. Go out with her. The sex is great.

Genuinely curious, is there still sex that isn't 'dutiful' or 'reluctant'? ML I see a bit, she has a boyfriend. I always wonder that, like others have said above, she's having sex several times a day, then goes home to her BF who probably wants to have sex too. Kind of like a tradie who works all day then goes home and has to do that trade at home.

[shugienyc]

Takes a special bond and trust. Been through it in reverse where I dated girls and then found out later they were WL, or a WL has asked me out, hmm.

All were liars and rather despicable except 1. One ruined my life so completely that I am still working out WTF happened to me 21 years later

Went out with a pornstar, lovely lady but fucked up, a truly lovely gal who got put on the drip (as it were).

Dated strippers = worst of the lot, truly awful girls in the main.

Trust, communication and integrity are key, don't read the forums, make sure there are boundaries but I would guess the odds of success are extremely low
like 1 in 1000......I've been hit on by a few much younger WL recently so I test them out... see if they respond to texts when there is zero $ for them... most just ghost you but 1, 2, or 3 special girls respond... then do I believe there is a chance with 1... maybe...

I am trying this again with a very special lady and my heart is involved for once.... we will see....... I know...... and I am friendly with WL that have coffee with me and drinks etc, so I hear all the stories.... all the fake stuff some do to impress clients, other WL jealousy etc.

The true pros understand it is just a job... the real REAL pros will not be fake at any time with any client but many WL and ML are happy and phoney with all, so horses for courses.

The challenge is working out who is who in the zoo... and don't believe a lot of shit you hear otherwise.

Its a tangled web indeed !

AMAZON Eddy has the right idea and knows.... trust yourself and let go of the jealousies as Eddy does and it can work.... TRUST

[shugienyc]

And several WL I have seen in the last year are married, have BF, have horrible drug habits, gambling, a grandma (very young) and yada yada yada.
So let the lady reveal to you over time who she is before you leap...... I think it takes a full year to see a person's full self

Good Luck

[BrisbaneSwede]

If you have even the smallest of jealous bones in your body, dont do it.

I went out with someone who did nude modelling, suicidegirls, stripping.

It was great until I went to a function for the girls and fans could also buy tickets. Seeing the fans and her interaction with them I changed and couldnt handle it.

[Pdaddy]

I live with a girl reviewed in these pages. It’s fantastic seeing here everyday. In the shower, in bed. Yes guys pay to see her. I know what she does with cocks. At times I get jealous about full service customers. But it’s just a money transaction. I see the girl over dinner, hear her thoughts and dreams. I met her as a customer. I wanted more. She tells me what happens, so I trust her. Some days I get stressed about the sex. But I see her undress at home. Go out with her. The sex is great.

The jealousy part is one thing, but are you not worried about STD’s?

[Wineglass985]

Deleted. Not applicable.

[Fungus the Bogeyman]

Now, after a failed marriage and over 2 years of life without sex, I realised that normal sex can be stripped away from men easily and can be hard to come by. Looking back, I would not hesitate to marry that girl simply because I could enjoy great sex with her. Sex is very important for the wellbeing of men and it is the bedrock of a healthy and vibrant life.

If I get the chance to meet a ML whom I like very much and who likes me too, not by words, but by her attitude and behaviour towards me, and she gives me great sex experience, I wouldn’t hesitate to take her out for a date and even propose to her to live together with me. I don’t care about anything else now.

Life is too short. I have to enjoy the moment.

Have you learnt nothing?
You think if you marry that ml the great sex would continue?
Once she had her claws on you for money, house, visa or whatever, she would take you for everything and not give it a second thought.
Character matters. Sex providers have none.
Have fun with them. Move on

[Wineglass985]

Have you learnt nothing?
You think if you marry that ml the great sex would continue?
Once she had her claws on you for money, house, visa or whatever, she would take you for everything and not give it a second thought.
Character matters. Sex providers have none.
Have fun with them. Move on

Isn’t the so called normal marriage with a “normal” woman often turns out to be another scam at a much larger scale when it fails? The so called normal decent women can make you live like a monk and still rip millions off you. With a ML, you can at least enjoy the sex they offer at a much lower cost comparably. They can also be a good companion. They are humans. Some of them have genuine good souls as there are things that cannot be faked. Of course I will take all the necessary precautions to protect my assets from any potential further loss. But it’s ok for me to help them to achieve their dreams like setting down here permanently as long as they are willing to be engaged in a genuine relationship with me. It’s ok.

[Blt]

First, maybe make sure you can actually afford it.

Second, these kinds of relationships rarely last — if you're too possessive, she’ll just see you as someone interfering with her income.

Unless your money or emotional support makes it worth her time, don't expect too much.

[MartyMcHardy]

As long as everyone’s having fun.

[shaneOppa896]

I once dated a so-called “high-end” Instagram model.
Turns out her private life was a mess too—always hanging out with different guys, hooking up casually. So let’s stop pretending that sex workers are the only ones who “sleep around.” Plenty of people outside the industry are just as wild—if not more.

This whole “ML = messy and untrustworthy” mindset? It’s mostly outdated male fantasy trying to feel morally superior.
If you’re serious about dating an ML, here are just three things you actually need to focus on:
1. Go get tested together — trust starts with action
If you want peace of mind and a serious connection, go do the medical check together. Clear results speak louder than anxious thoughts.
2. Don’t treat her like your personal property
The more possessive you get, the more likely she is to lie or pull away. Give her space, and you might be surprised how loyal she actually becomes.
3. Worried she’s still seeing clients? She’s also worried you’re out playing around
Let’s not pretend you’re some saint while she’s the only one with a past. She knows the risks just like you do, and trust goes both ways.

—

At the end of the day, she’s providing a service—not selling her soul. You’re buying pleasure, not moral superiority.
If you’re emotionally compatible, have amazing sex, and can actually communicate, there’s no reason things can’t work long-term.

[gpeck80]

"This whole “ML = messy and untrustworthy” mindset? It’s mostly outdated male fantasy trying to feel morally superior."

Women by their very nature are chaotic, emotional and their loyalty can shift as quickly as the wind. Very few dont fit that cliche.

[Wineglass985]

Looks like quite a few women haters are on this forum. I do hate certain women as they hurt me so much. But I don’t hate them generally. Some MLs give me great sexual pleasure and helped to cure my depression through sex and good communication with them. I like them very much and feel grateful to them.

[Ghost of BarneyRubble]

First, maybe make sure you can actually afford it.

Second, these kinds of relationships rarely last — if you're too possessive, she’ll just see you as someone interfering with her income.

Unless your money or emotional support makes it worth her time, don't expect too much.
Interesting post.
How long can mls do this work?
At some stage they cannot handle it any longer, the money isn’t worth it or they just want to move on and have a normal life.
Then what? The money they earn doing this isn’t available out there for a large percentage. Best to grab a branch before falling to the ground eh?

[Amazoneddy]

Interesting post.
How long can mls do this work?
At some stage they cannot handle it any longer, the money isn’t worth it or they just want to move on and have a normal life.
Then what? The money they earn doing this isn’t available out there for a large percentage. Best to grab a branch before falling to the ground eh?

Thanks GBR and all the others who replied to my post. I thought there could be some very negative replies I’ve been pleased by the respect and caution most guys have shown. It’s new territory for me too. Yes she is a woman with normal wants and needs and yes, I have been jealous some days, especially if ML has had 2-3 FS on that shift. We talk about it quite a lot and yes some days she’s too tired for more action. Sometimes I see other MLs for a change. ML is ok with that, since she sees so many guys. 5-7 on a usual day. Yes the money is good, but that’s her choice when to move on. Happy to answer any questions since the tone of all posts has been curious and kind.

[Gtlyer]

Thanks GBR and all the others who replied to my post. I thought there could be some very negative replies I’ve been pleased by the respect and caution most guys have shown. It’s new territory for me too. Yes she is a woman with normal wants and needs and yes, I have been jealous some days, especially if ML has had 2-3 FS on that shift. We talk about it quite a lot and yes some days she’s too tired for more action. Sometimes I see other MLs for a change. ML is ok with that, since she sees so many guys. 5-7 on a usual day. Yes the money is good, but that’s her choice when to move on. Happy to answer any questions since the tone of all posts has been curious and kind.

Interesting story! So you two still are living together while both of you keep doing what you used to do. One keeps being pounded by others and one keeps pounding others. You must have amazing sex together, right? Otherwise, I can’t imagine how strong a mind can be to maintain a relationship like this.

[A Nice Guy]

First, maybe make sure you can actually afford it.

Second, these kinds of relationships rarely last — if you're too possessive, she’ll just see you as someone interfering with her income.

Unless your money or emotional support makes it worth her time, don't expect too much.

Never a truer word spoken, you may be the nicest of guys but it counts for nothing if you don't have the financial means to support the lifestyle she has become accustomed to.

Enjoy the moment for what it's worth as it's unlikely to last and end in heartbreak.

[CumShot]

Thanks GBR and all the others who replied to my post. I thought there could be some very negative replies I’ve been pleased by the respect and caution most guys have shown. It’s new territory for me too. Yes she is a woman with normal wants and needs and yes, I have been jealous some days, especially if ML has had 2-3 FS on that shift. We talk about it quite a lot and yes some days she’s too tired for more action. Sometimes I see other MLs for a change. ML is ok with that, since she sees so many guys. 5-7 on a usual day. Yes the money is good, but that’s her choice when to move on. Happy to answer any questions since the tone of all posts has been curious and kind.

Great, so you can both 'tolerate' the current situation. Where does it lead? What is the future relationship? What common interests do you have (other than massage shops)? How closely are you and her family values aligned?

Apart from the 'success' of dating a massage girl why are you in the arrangement? Are you a visa ticket?

[Herpetology]

I owned a Massage Shop for 3 years


I sold my Massage Shop May 2025 to relocate February 2026

I Dated a few ML

I still hang out with 4 ML now

They are fine

I lived with a mature ML for 8 months 2024 a Taiwanese

I have a younger Taiwanese ML living in my spare room now


I mainly like Thai girls, and I know if you treat them well, they will look after you

I do not have a problem with dating ML

[RLC]

I have dated massage ladies over the years. The following is based on my experiences:
1) They are in debt for a range of reasons but the common element is they have been scammed/cheated out of money and now have to repay
2) They have all tried other lines of work but decided it was too much effort and so chose to do massage
3) They all want to stay in Australia
4) All of them had children back in their home country
5) 4 of them were married to some dude who they said was madly in love with them but once the visa kicks in for them to stay intend to leave the guy the next day. One girl said she told the guy he was too big for her so just gives him a hj while she sucks and f@cks across Brisbane. To ensure she has only limited contact with him she picks shops away from where he lives and stays at the shop overnight as much as possible.
6) All are insanely insecure. Last one, she asked me to help one of the other MLÂ’s with some advice. I did and she flew into a fit of fury because I was apparently too attentive to her friend another time on which I ended it, she recommended one of her colleagues while she was away because I had genuine soreness. The massage hit the spot, and because I tipped her well for a good job she declared it was proof I was in love with the other woman.
7) They all wanted babies- pity I have had a vasectomy that was cleared and in over a decade no pregnancy scares.
8) They all after a month or so begin the emotional control and shaming stuff to try and manipulate you.

This is just my experience and of course is not representative necessarily of all MLÂ’s

[VFlowers]

I have dated massage ladies over the years. The following is based on my experiences:
1) They are in debt for a range of reasons but the common element is they have been scammed/cheated out of money and now have to repay
2) They have all tried other lines of work but decided it was too much effort and so chose to do massage
3) They all want to stay in Australia
4) All of them had children back in their home country
5) 4 of them were married to some dude who they said was madly in love with them but once the visa kicks in for them to stay intend to leave the guy the next day. One girl said she told the guy he was too big for her so just gives him a hj while she sucks and f@cks across Brisbane. To ensure she has only limited contact with him she picks shops away from where he lives and stays at the shop overnight as much as possible.
6) All are insanely insecure. Last one, she asked me to help one of the other MLÂ’s with some advice. I did and she flew into a fit of fury because I was apparently too attentive to her friend another time on which I ended it, she recommended one of her colleagues while she was away because I had genuine soreness. The massage hit the spot, and because I tipped her well for a good job she declared it was proof I was in love with the other woman.
7) They all wanted babies- pity I have had a vasectomy that was cleared and in over a decade no pregnancy scares.
8) They all after a month or so begin the emotional control and shaming stuff to try and manipulate you.

This is just my experience and of course is not representative necessarily of all MLÂ’s

I might be wrong, but that sounds like you had your experiences mostly with the south-east Asian ML variety.

[harry444]

I've had a couple of ML GF's. Both a bit "strange". eg, texting while having sex.

[RLC]

I might be wrong, but that sounds like you had your experiences mostly with the south-east Asian ML variety.

You are 100% correct. 5 Chinese and 1 Korean.

I did feel sorry for one of the guys who had married one of the Chinese ML I was seeing. There was multiple occasions I had just blown a load into his Mrs at the shop and when I left I would see him sitting in his car waiting for her. One time he was standing just up from the shop waiting for her as I walked out having just cum in her mouth. We locked eyes as I walked past. I was driving off when I saw her come out, plant a deep kiss on him then skip off with him. She said he believed her when she said she offered no extras as he was naive and stupid and this allowed her to keep most of the money as he thought she was earning very little. Needless to say when she started bs with me it ended fast.

[Gentlemanscarfacethird]

Yes. RLC they prey on naïveté.

I’ve had a few confide in me. They like to unload their burdens if your a listener.

Lots seem to have kids, partners, debts or a wild history. Others seem nice and genuine… but who knows. I think best to err on the side of caution and keep them at an entertaining arms length.

[RLC]

Yes. RLC they prey on naïveté.

I’ve had a few confide in me. They like to unload their burdens if your a listener.

Lots seem to have kids, partners, debts or a wild history. Others seem nice and genuine… but who knows. I think best to err on the side of caution and keep them at an entertaining arms length.

You are right about arms length. I made the mistake with the last one of half believing she was genuine but bits of her story slowly unwound, parts she didn’t realise I had already worked out. Let her get a little too close in hindsight.

[Holdan427]

I married a ML a number of years ago helped her with PR. We agreed that after we were married she would not provide FS. However, some time after marriage, I discovered she was still doing FS so I told her to leave. She then tried to extort $200k from me> Took her to court - the judge was very scathing but didn't depart her FFS.

So not learning from my first mistake, I started going out with another asian ML. However this one worked in a few shopping centre shops and so I thought all was good. Although she was often cagey about telling me exactly what days she worked at which shops. Until I discovered she was working a few days a week at a well known RnT shop in CBD. So trust blown and relationship ended.

[VFlowers]

You are 100% correct. 5 Chinese and 1 Korean.

I did feel sorry for one of the guys who had married one of the Chinese ML I was seeing. There was multiple occasions I had just blown a load into his Mrs at the shop and when I left I would see him sitting in his car waiting for her. One time he was standing just up from the shop waiting for her as I walked out having just cum in her mouth. We locked eyes as I walked past. I was driving off when I saw her come out, plant a deep kiss on him then skip off with him. She said he believed her when she said she offered no extras as he was naive and stupid and this allowed her to keep most of the money as he thought she was earning very little. Needless to say when she started bs with me it ended fast.

No, LOL, I am actually 100% wrong. SE Asia doesn't include China and Korea, that's East Asia. Was thinking more Thailand, Philippines etc. I'm really surprised to read that 5 of them were Chinese.

[RLC]

No, LOL, I am actually 100% wrong. SE Asia doesn't include China and Korea, that's East Asia. Was thinking more Thailand, Philippines etc. I'm really surprised to read that 5 of them were Chinese.

Interesting as the Chinese all played the same/similar game to what I have read of other groups so just threw them in there with the rest.

[half]

Maybe I'm naive but I would have assumed most MLs dont date their clients but this thread implies it happens often. I guess they see a guy with money to burn and go for him when he expresses interest?

[RLC]

Maybe I'm naive but I would have assumed most MLs dont date their clients but this thread implies it happens often. I guess they see a guy with money to burn and go for him when he expresses interest?

I have visited shops over the last 2 decades at least 4-500 times I would guess and it’s happened about 6 times for me.

[Up2me]

Unless you are open minded enough to be ok with the girl servicing other guys (because 9 out of 10 will), then just remember, she's not really your GF, it's just your turn.

[APL]

Unless you are open minded enough to be ok with the girl servicing other guys (because 9 out of 10 will), then just remember, she's not really your GF, it's just your turn.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

[CumShot]

I’ve had a few confide in me. They like to unload their burdens if your a listener.

Lots seem to have kids, partners, debts or a wild history. Others seem nice and genuine… but who knows. I think best to err on the side of caution and keep them at an entertaining arms length.

I think could also apply for the massage girls to remember also. Us punters have our baggage and secrets also.

[Fitch]

I live with a girl reviewed in these pages. It’s fantastic seeing here everyday. In the shower, in bed. Yes guys pay to see her. I know what she does with cocks. At times I get jealous about full service customers. But it’s just a money transaction. I see the girl over dinner, hear her thoughts and dreams. I met her as a customer. I wanted more. She tells me what happens, so I trust her. Some days I get stressed about the sex. But I see her undress at home. Go out with her. The sex is great.

This is cope level 10

[Fitch]

Only a fool would take a sex worker seriously.

[nervous]

I started talking to a ML, she wanted my number so I could see in her in other shops. She started messaging me and telling me where she was working and we started to get friendly. About 2 months in she started messaging me that we should move n together and split the bills to save money. Needless to say i quickly shut down the idea. But they always have an ulterior motive.

[RLC]

I started talking to a ML, she wanted my number so I could see in her in other shops. She started messaging me and telling me where she was working and we started to get friendly. About 2 months in she started messaging me that we should move n together and split the bills to save money. Needless to say i quickly shut down the idea. But they always have an ulterior motive.

I had one who delegated me the simple task of solving all her life problems for her. Bit of a nasty one she was. She hated her husband, hated the house she lived in, claimed it was cheap and tacky- sent me a video of the place and my thought was it was a livable decent place albeit a fraction small. Red flags everywhere all take no give. Her only redeeming feature was swallowing after bj and natural anal.

[pepkoakrapovik]

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[RLC]

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lol. I think that trying to pick up ML’s at a shop would be more worthwhile to be honest.

[spitgirls]

Great thread….I too have been talking to a ML & gotten closer but after reading ppls comments I am going to step back, haha. Its hard when they give u a gf experience & u see them multiple times but its just a job for them after all is done

[CatWizard]

One ML said to me recently that her boy enjoys bareback privileges at home as though it were some kind of reward.

Another mentioned that her man gets none at all, since he sleeps in and by evening she’s too sore to offer what’s left.

It’s hard to see how any of this serves the supposed “benefit” of these cuckolds, or wittols, to revive an old and fitting word.

For my part, a financial exchange for a sexual one is the furthest I’d wander from my own boundaries or values with these women. They are artists in their craft and experts in prancing and dancing their way through the circuitry of male emotion leaving both fascination and ruin in their wake.

[dave.j8811]

Dated a few over the years. You get to know how competitive the shop life is. How cold some of the MLs really are and how disappointing some punters behave. The ones I dated was before the laws changed. But you can never truly trust a SW. They are so used to getting 4 pines for a nhjbs that they expect you to pay for everything. The younger ones do it to pay for visa/school and holidays, the older ones some married with kids do it for the tax free income.

[rojerramjet]

One ML said to me recently that her boy enjoys bareback privileges at home as though it were some kind of reward.

Another mentioned that her man gets none at all, since he sleeps in and by evening she’s too sore to offer what’s left.

It’s hard to see how any of this serves the supposed “benefit” of these cuckolds, or wittols, to revive an old and fitting word.

For my part, a financial exchange for a sexual one is the furthest I’d wander from my own boundaries or values with these women. They are artists in their craft and experts in prancing and dancing their way through the circuitry of male emotion leaving both fascination and ruin in their wake.

Well put..........

[wyejmfhi]

Totally agree, the scene's changed a lot. These days I stick with online setups - they're cleaner and safer. Met some surprisingly real women through pawg hookups (htttps://www.nearhookups.com/pawg-hookup/), and it's been fun without all the fake promises. When everyone's upfront, the connection just happens naturally.

[Nonodemerit]

My cases:

1. WL : 'would U be my fuck buddy outside the shop?'
Me : 'happy to'
WL : 'im married. Is it okay?'
Me : ' yes '
This last few years until she left her husband after she got visa and the half of the house. No damage for me but I felt sorry for her ex-husband.

2. WL :' I need place to stay in Brisbane. I'm new to here.'
Me : ' okay, I can provide....'
WL : 'cool.'
The day she moved in she asked me to do drugs together. I said no. She left few months later.

3. WL : 'I like you.'
Me: 'okay, thanks.'
WL : 'here is number. Please don't use me only for fuck. That happened before. Please be gentle and kind to me.'
Me: 'no probs.'

Few weeks later she left bris for some reason. It ended.


So.... Dating WL is okay? Maybe. Idk.

[thunder545454]

Don't date them, ive tried it a few times, it's never gone well, yes the sex is ridiculous, but the headaches are insane, you will get an STD, no whatever what they say when a guy inevitably puts enough $$$ on the table they will all take the risk.

There are guys who will splash money to take them to a hotels, they all claim they never do it, they all do it whenever they get the chance.

There is zero honesty with them honesty doesn't exist in that world, mentally they are gone.

If they found you at work, then guess what every guy who comes in is your potential replacement, if someone with abit more money abit better looking shows up, you will be out on your ass in 3 seconds, doesn't matter what you have done for her and anything can think of as to why she would show you a sliver of loyalty, she won't men are completely disposable to these girls.

The only way to treat them is like they treat same as they treat men, take them out fuck them string them along tell them whatever they want to hear, just like they are telling you all the things they think you want to hear.

Keep going to massage joints and dump their ass if anything younger hotter comes along.

[Fitch]

If you can get passed her getting railed by multiple guys a day, you'll be ok.

[Nonodemerit]

true that ......

[Holdan427]

Don't date them, ive tried it a few times, it's never gone well, yes the sex is ridiculous, but the headaches are insane, you will get an STD, no whatever what they say when a guy inevitably puts enough $$$ on the table they will all take the risk.

There are guys who will splash money to take them to a hotels, they all claim they never do it, they all do it whenever they get the chance.

There is zero honesty with them honesty doesn't exist in that world, mentally they are gone.

If they found you at work, then guess what every guy who comes in is your potential replacement, if someone with abit more money abit better looking shows up, you will be out on your ass in 3 seconds, doesn't matter what you have done for her and anything can think of as to why she would show you a sliver of loyalty, she won't men are completely disposable to these girls.

The only way to treat them is like they treat same as they treat men, take them out fuck them string them along tell them whatever they want to hear, just like they are telling you all the things they think you want to hear.

Keep going to massage joints and dump their ass if anything younger hotter comes along.

100% agree mate - they are lying kents with no abilty to form real emotionally balanced relationships. I have dated 3 Thai ML's - never again.

[dave.j8811]

Maybe cause they’re Thai? Hahahaha

[BrisbaneSwede]

Maybe cause they’re Thai? Hahahaha

The white ones are just as bad. Every one of them becomes desensitised and is a money extractor.

[Nonodemerit]

The white ones are just as bad. Every one of them becomes desensitised and is a money extractor.

its true. but its happening.

shitstorm is coming.

[Fitch]

its true. but its happening.

shitstorm is coming.

We are in the shitstorm. It arrived decades ago.

[Nonodemerit]

We are in the shitstorm. It arrived decades ago.

Thanks for that. It's good to know that I'm not alone in this game ;)

the question is how can I get out of this vicious circle....

I remind myself she is only a good fuck and be grateful getting this for free. But this grew on me.... Shitstorm... Something is wrong with me apparently....

[Holdan427]

Thanks for that. It's good to know that I'm not alone in this game ;)

the question is how can I get out of this vicious circle....

I remind myself she is only a good fuck and be grateful getting this for free. But this grew on me.... Shitstorm... Something is wrong with me apparently....

Mate there is nothing "wrong" with you.

The most important thing I have learned is that they cannot form "normal" relationships. So inititally during the honeymoon period, everything is good. And you are looking at her through rose coloured glasses - perfectly normal. The danger here is that the rose coloured glasses hide the red flags. And there are plenty of them. For example: 1. they are fucking and sucking other men for money; They are liers - you can never be sure if she is telling the truth; they are cunning - she will use emotional blackmail and that tantalising pussy to keep you on the hook; and they lack an ability for intimacy - she won't engage in foreplay - deep kissing, caressing, cuddling - that gets eroded whith each new cock she takes to the point where she can no longer offer it.

So as many of the other learned gentlemen have offered - fuck them, enjoy the moment; move on

[RLC]

Thanks for that. It's good to know that I'm not alone in this game ;)

the question is how can I get out of this vicious circle....

I remind myself she is only a good fuck and be grateful getting this for free. But this grew on me.... Shitstorm... Something is wrong with me apparently....

Nothing wrong with you. Remember they have had good practice with this and know all the tips and tricks from pussy power to gaslighting to playing the victim etc to manipulate you for whatever reason they have.

This is a fine line but for me, I try to just enjoy the moment and always keep in mind that it is simply fun while it lasts. Personally, I play a ‘three strike’ red flag role. By that I mean three red flag actions towards me personally. Once I hit the three I am out. A strike could be I know they lied to me deliberately or tried to emotionally manipulate me in some manner.

That’s how I play it, others will have different methods but that is what I am comfortable with. Usually they last as my ‘girlfriend’ maybe 3 months.

But remember, all good things come to an end 😊

[Nonodemerit]

I know the facts, and I appreciate what Holdan47 and RLC pointed out, but honestly, I'm still completely drawn to this. I'm only human with flaws(many of them)

So far, she hasn't asked me for PR or money. It's about the sex and the little thrills here and there.

I'm going to give myself a couple of months to enjoy it as it is. Then, I'll hopefully move on.

Constantly reminding myself that there are 'bigger fish in the pond than this cunning liar' isn't helping me at all. I wonder if I'll finally learn my lesson soon. The whole thing feels so stark.

Well, happy punting, boys

[JustLooking6969]

I had a casual relationship with a ML a while ago.

Was never going to be long term, but I liked to hear the stories of what she got up to, and some of the customers she encounted.
Lot of weird people out there, including me. hahaha.

Anyway yeah you wouldnt want to be too serious about it.

Agree. Don't take it seriously. I've been out with a few ML's recently, you know, just for fun, nothing serious. See them for maybe 3-4 weeks and then the drama creeps in and I'm off.

Before that, I had a very long term relationship with an ex-WL. Fucking great sex for the first few years, thought I snagged a winner...but gradually dried up towards then end. Broke up with her a couple of years ago. Thought I could give her "a better life", but in the end not what she wanted. She started seeing someone almost straight after we split and then had a string of men thereafter....(many pump and dump situations I gather). I'm pretty sure she's gone back into the trade.

I've found most of them have some sort of psychological problem or personality disorder (NPD or BPD or both!), probably from childhood trauma/neglect. My ex defo had NPD (covert). She was abused by her mum and I think her step-dad fiddled.

It is true, too many cocks does something to them. My ex also said she did enjoy some clients (around 15%-20%) and went out with quite a few punters at the same time, so, keep that in the back of your mind.

If you do find one you think is actually interested in you or seems to care about, just remember it's her feelings for the moment. A woman is only loyal to her emotions.

It's right about the work thing. My ex tried to find normal jobs after we broke up, but she's back because the money's too good and easy work for her. Normal jobs are too hard.

Anyway, your decision, but it could fuck up your life like it did mine!!!!

cheers

[Herpetology]

As I said in the past, I never dated my massage Staff who worked in may massage shop

My Lifestyle is hanging out with massage ladies and girls who own shops or who work in shops

Over the last 3 years I dated 2 other massage girls and they were fine

A Thai girl 35 years and Taiwanese lady 54 years old

My Ex -Staff have contacts and girlfriends, so I am Introduced to massage ladies

Maybe I have the advantage as I owned a message shop for 3 years

I treat them well and they are fine and happy


I sold my Business May 2025

We all know massage girls lure customers in use them with fake shit and take money while servicing another punter at the same time

I have 5 lady friends who own massage shops, and they are all married to Australia men and are happy

[Herpetology]

Not all massage girls are fake Sir

[Puntonthego]

Agree. Don't take it seriously. I've been out with a few ML's recently, you know, just for fun, nothing serious. See them for maybe 3-4 weeks and then the drama creeps in and I'm off.

Before that, I had a very long term relationship with an ex-WL. Fucking great sex for the first few years, thought I snagged a winner...but gradually dried up towards then end. Broke up with her a couple of years ago. Thought I could give her "a better life", but in the end not what she wanted. She started seeing someone almost straight after we split and then had a string of men thereafter....(many pump and dump situations I gather). I'm pretty sure she's gone back into the trade.

I've found most of them have some sort of psychological problem or personality disorder (NPD or BPD or both!), probably from childhood trauma/neglect. My ex defo had NPD (covert). She was abused by her mum and I think her step-dad fiddled.

It is true, too many cocks does something to them. My ex also said she did enjoy some clients (around 15%-20%) and went out with quite a few punters at the same time, so, keep that in the back of your mind.

If you do find one you think is actually interested in you or seems to care about, just remember it's her feelings for the moment. A woman is only loyal to her emotions.

It's right about the work thing. My ex tried to find normal jobs after we broke up, but she's back because the money's too good and easy work for her. Normal jobs are too hard.

Anyway, your decision, but it could fuck up your life like it did mine!!!!

cheers

Yes couldn’t agree more with this, everyone in similar situations all end like this including my experience many us ago. My advice is don’t bother there are many find sensible women out there without the mental instability of a ex-ML or WL.

[William73]

Those gold-digging bitches were inherently greedy—they took the job just to chase money. Why should we be stupid enough to give them genuine feelings or even consider dating them? There are so many better women out there

[JJBeck]

Wonder what the guy think that ended up with Red
If he know her past, was he a customer

I never knew her, but base on a few reviews and comments she sounded like she offered a full menu
If she ended with a guy, his view will be interesting

[WatersWish]

Just wondering what others think.

If you end up in a relationship with a massage girl, how do you handle it?

Things like the nature of the job, trust, and future complications a— do they become hidden sources of stress?

Anyone been in this situation or thought about it seriously? Would love to hear your take.

They’re humans too with needs like everyone else. Treat her with respect, love what she does, and fill in all the gaps of what’s missing in her life - get to know her. At the end of the day, she provides a service to people without an emotional connection she would be craving. It’s just that, nothing more. It’s just a job for her - guys come in for a short time, and then leave… Be everything else. Adjust your mindset and have fun.

And seriously, how hot 🔥 would it be to have a girlfriend like that. Take pleasure. Enjoy the ride, and treat her like you’re the luckiest person to have her in your life. It’s a unique situation.

[CatWizard]

Those gold-digging bitches were inherently greedy—they took the job just to chase money. Why should we be stupid enough to give them genuine feelings or even consider dating them? There are so many better women out there

Why do you see MLs then? Are you continuously getting out-selected in preference for "Better Men"?

Like many Men, many Women get themselves into financial troubles too. Unlike many Men, many Women have fewer options to earn that type of money to help them get out of their problems. Even today.

Many MLs are forced in through their predicament. They have large debts, poor families back home they are supporting, or they've been subject to some kind of racket or are in other types of trouble. Maybe you're a little pissed off because you're slogging your arse off at work for a measly pay (your gold), and then you're getting out-earned by some hot bird who lays on her back to fuck you (out of no real choice of hers mind you (unlike yours...)), which she's probably vomiting in her mouth whilst taking your weight, your hot smelly breath invading her personal zones, and your cheap aftershave.

Its not greedy, its fucking brave man! I wouldn't say it's easy money either. Probably some of the hardest money to earn. I would say for you that it's an easy lay, though. Just flash some cash and get some gash. I bet you're too scared of the better women out there, and that they wouldn't service your needs, either because of your attitude, or something else toxic about you.

Gold diggers are out there, but you're generalising.... a little too much?

[Fitch]

They’re humans too with needs like everyone else. Treat her with respect, love what she does, and fill in all the gaps of what’s missing in her life - get to know her. At the end of the day, she provides a service to people without an emotional connection she would be craving. It’s just that, nothing more. It’s just a job for her - guys come in for a short time, and then leave… Be everything else. Adjust your mindset and have fun.

And seriously, how hot 🔥 would it be to have a girlfriend like that. Take pleasure. Enjoy the ride, and treat her like you’re the luckiest person to have her in your life. It’s a unique situation.

Bro please 🙏 stop. Are you high? You're setting him up for failure. Stop watching Disney movie please

[Nonodemerit]

Bro please �� stop. Are you high? You're setting him up for failure. Stop watching Disney movie please

Well said. MLs are not monsters. but, not everyone can switch their conscience on and off like MLs do. This will tell a lot about them.

I'm enjoying spending time with a ML outside the shop for now. it's free and fun. she's one of the popular girls(lucky me, she asked first). If anything goes south like being asked for PR or money, I will step out instantly.

She said she doesn't have a boyfriend, but I only assume she is seeing more than just me. No drama please ;)

[YadaYadaYada93]

Yeah, some ML’s definitely are monsters, and greedy, all about the Visa, money etc.

My mate is going through it right now.

Fell for the popular ML who asked him out, even though she was living with a boyfriend at the time. 🚩

Then came the visa (huge legal fees) 🚩 then baby trapped (supposed to be on birth control) 🚩

Then he finds out she has a boyfriend (hopefully not you Nonodemerit haha) and that she has been working as a ML in secret (squirrelling away loads of cash) despite him paying for everything. And now he is having to deal with child custody issues where he’ll end up paying way more than he should be, because she isn’t declaring her very large income and savings.

My mate has been absolutely used and broken by this experience, she clearly never loved him and just wanted residency and whatever else she could get from him. And no, she doesn’t have big debts or other issue mentioned in the thread above either. She is just completely money driven.

My mate is definitely not feeling like the “luckiest guy” having a “unique experience” as mentioned in this thread lol.

[JJBeck]

Is a zebra white with black stripes or black with white stripes?
Does not matter, it is still just a zebra

[Nonodemerit]

Yeah, some ML’s definitely are monsters, and greedy, all about the Visa, money etc.

My mate is going through it right now.

Fell for the popular ML who asked him out, even though she was living with a boyfriend at the time. ��

Then came the visa (huge legal fees) �� then baby trapped (supposed to be on birth control) ��

Then he finds out she has a boyfriend (hopefully not you Nonodemerit haha) and that she has been working as a ML in secret (squirrelling away loads of cash) despite him paying for everything. And now he is having to deal with child custody issues where he’ll end up paying way more than he should be, because she isn’t declaring her very large income and savings.

My mate has been absolutely used and broken by this experience, she clearly never loved him and just wanted residency and whatever else she could get from him. And no, she doesn’t have big debts or other issue mentioned in the thread above either. She is just completely money driven.

My mate is definitely not feeling like the “luckiest guy” having a “unique experience” as mentioned in this thread lol.

Mate.... What's her nationality?

I may fit in this scenario(knock on woods). Not as a boyfriend then, but soon-to-be boyfriend?

Hmmm. is a shitstorm coming?

[Nonodemerit]

Is a zebra white with black stripes or black with white stripes?
Does not matter, it is still just a zebra

It's not a zebra. it's me being colorblind. Zebras do what they do.

It's me who keeps falling for the well-curated moaning, the choreographed position changes, and the good-for-nothing whispers(only you can make me cum or I have never felt this way before) in my ear.

To be honest. I don't have a potbelly, but I'm also not fatally attractive enough to make a girl who fucks with several men a day, three to four days a week, settle down with just one regular cock(I am not hung). They love sex. If they didn't, none of those girls would choose this line of work for the money. Some women, even attractive ones, would rather stay poor than be pounded by a couple of dozen random men weekly base for a few years(they get old). How can they rationalize this otherwise?

And here I am, colorblind, hoping this time it's not a zebra.

If this obvious scenario turns out to be a shitshow involving money or a visa, I will step out cold turkey. But my dick says differently. shit man....

[JJBeck]

The little brain always win the argument

[YadaYadaYada93]

Mate.... What's her nationality?

I may fit in this scenario(knock on woods). Not as a boyfriend then, but soon-to-be boyfriend?

Hmmm. is a shitstorm coming?


Her nationality is Taiwanese

Hopefully no shitstorm coming for you mate

[Tavs]

Enjoy it like a fun park ride. The entertainment will stop and time to hop off.

[Tavs]

Yeah, some ML’s definitely are monsters, and greedy, all about the Visa, money etc.

My mate is going through it right now.

Fell for the popular ML who asked him out, even though she was living with a boyfriend at the time. 🚩

Then came the visa (huge legal fees) 🚩 then baby trapped (supposed to be on birth control) 🚩

Then he finds out she has a boyfriend (hopefully not you Nonodemerit haha) and that she has been working as a ML in secret (squirrelling away loads of cash) despite him paying for everything. And now he is having to deal with child custody issues where he’ll end up paying way more than he should be, because she isn’t declaring her very large income and savings.

My mate has been absolutely used and broken by this experience, she clearly never loved him and just wanted residency and whatever else she could get from him. And no, she doesn’t have big debts or other issue mentioned in the thread above either. She is just completely money driven.

My mate is definitely not feeling like the “luckiest guy” having a “unique experience” as mentioned in this thread lol.

Is he sure the kid is his? Maybe needs to go on Maury?