Regular taking advantage of me

[Sinkie]

I've been seeing a working lady regularly but instead of the service improving, I feel like she's starting to take advantage of me.

1. She's getting more comfortable saying no, including some stuff she used to do before.
2. She's always late. I've had to wait 10–30 minutes every session. That means she went overtime with others but never with me.
3. Sometimes she said she's tired because the previous punter was rough and asked for cuddles. Why let other punters go rough, then make me pay the price?
4. Once I texted her beforehand to check if she was okay to meet, and she said yes. But when we met, she had pussy pain and I couldn't even stick a finger in. Why not let me know earlier?

At first, I just kept my head down. But after a while, I started thinking, what the fuck is this bullshit?
Anyone else faced this before? Is it common for regulars to become complacent? I'm starting to think it's time to cut her off

[bung72]

I'm starting to think it's time to cut her off

'ya think!!

.....piss this chick off....

She is giving you the full-on wife-experience now.....

[walkaboutbilly]

Find yourself a new provider, someone got way too comfortable with taking your money

[Folcis]

Some girls are grateful for regulars, and some take them for granted.

A bit of give and take is one thing, but if they start taking you for granted, you have to move on.

[MindTheGap]

She’s not your friend
She’s not your girlfriend
She’s not your wife

Vote with your feet - start seeing some others at the same shop or the one next door / across the road.

The best way to get what you want is for her to realise you can get it from someone else.

[11Bravo]

Do I REALLY need to drag out the ole' Yul's "Move On" clip again...

https://youtu.be/1Ar5OdHtQrA?t=68


Some girls are grateful for regulars, and some take them for granted.

A bit of give and take is one thing, but if they start taking you for granted, you have to move on.
Well said. Loyalty and consideration cut both ways.


She’s not your friend
She’s not your girlfriend
She’s not your wife

Vote with your feet - start seeing some others at the same shop or the one next door / across the road.

The best way to get what you want is for her to realise you can get it from someone else.


'ya think!!

.....piss this chick off....

She is giving you the full-on wife-experience now.....
Why bother, taking the time to piss her off? Just Ride On to new, greener pastures, not worth the time and effort to linger...

At some point, IF she texts you, then it's up to you if you return. Holding grudges just not worth it, IME.

[bung72]

Why bother, taking the time to piss her off?

I guess I was using the term 'to piss off' someone, to mean, get rid of them.
I'd start booking other girls at the same shop.

[11Bravo]

I guess I was using the term 'to piss off' someone, to mean, get rid of them.
I'd start booking other girls at the same shop.

Misunderstood; thanks for the correction.

Still, I wouldn't necessarily book from the same shop (unless there was someone I REALLY wanted to see). There are so many shops, why limit yourself? And I wouldn't want to be caught up in interoffice politics, especially if a small shop. Like I said, just not worth it. It's just BUSINESS.

[MindTheGap]

Do I REALLY need to drag out the ole' Yul's "Move On" clip again...

https://youtu.be/1Ar5OdHtQrA?t=68


Well said. Loyalty and consideration cut both ways.




Why bother, taking the time to piss her off? Just Ride On to new, greener pastures, not worth the time and effort to linger...

At some point, IF she texts you, then it's up to you if you return. Holding grudges just not worth it, IME.

Because it works. I’ve used the tactic and ended up getting more than before.

You forget it’s all about the money for them

[11Bravo]

Because it works. I’ve used the tactic and ended up getting more than before.

You forget it’s all about the money for themWorked for you, great.

Myself, I NEVER forget it's just BUSINESS. All depends on how much YOUR cash flow is worth to HER. I just don't play games, MY life is too short. No need for the "same shop" UNLESS there's someone you really want to see. What, you're not showing up, she's thinking, "Oh, he must have joined a monastery" or staying home with a broken heart? I've had some come back (her office, my bar), others not. It's just BUSINESS. Personally, when I lose a regular, I take the opportunity to scout for the next one. And she will be found... well, so far, anyway.

[MindTheGap]

Well there may be others in the same shop

It might be that the shop is the most convenient for your lifestyle and personal circumstances. When I lived 40kms outside of a major city that was an issue for me as options were limited

[MindTheGap]

Worked for you, great.

Myself, I NEVER forget it's just BUSINESS. All depends on how much YOUR cash flow is worth to HER. I just don't play games, MY life is too short. No need for the "same shop" UNLESS there's someone you really want to see. What, you're not showing up, she's thinking, "Oh, he must have joined a monastery" or staying home with a broken heart? I've had some come back (her office, my bar), others not. It's just BUSINESS. Personally, when I lose a regular, I take the opportunity to scout for the next one. And she will be found... well, so far, anyway.

Never underestimate burning jealousy in a woman. 100x if she is an Asian woman

[11Bravo]

Well there may be others in the same shopAs I said:

No need for the "same shop" UNLESS there's someone you really want to see.



It might be that the shop is the most convenient for your lifestyle and personal circumstances. When I lived 40kms outside of a major city that was an issue for me as options were limitedAnd why I always live, or stay, in the big city. Used to drive 70 minutes (120 kph) each way to work just so I could avail myself of the big city opportunities (though on foggy days, would often question that decision as my hands GRIPPED the steering wheel :question:, especially in an environment where many believed in "fate")


Never underestimate burning jealousy in a woman. 100x if she is an Asian womanEver heard "Feed the ducks?"...

All I'm saying is, if it works for you, fine. But when one door closes...

You become less important to a regular, a regular becomes less important to you. 2 sides, same coin.
Cheers.

[thefatness]

Don’t see her anymore. In fact, you should make it known to her that you’re seeing others. Even better if it’s at the same shop. For the ultimate effect ask for a lineup, and from that lineup pick someone else. Make sure she’s in the lineup.

[JJBlows]

Don’t see her anymore. In fact, you should make it known to her that you’re seeing others. Even better if it’s at the same shop. For the ultimate effect ask for a lineup, and from that lineup pick someone else. Make sure she’s in the lineup.

Too much effort bro for that. He should just see another girl and if she happens to see him there the he should just say hello and move on. A girl like that he shouldn't waste any energy on.

I'm curious to know which girl this is

[gedinsyd]

One of my regulars stopped offering one or two things she used to offer too...but it was her choice for health reasons and she stopped doing those things for everyone, to the best of my knowledge. So I simply respected that choice. I understand it could be a dealbreaker for some.
As for the overtime for the previous punter, do you still get your full session time regardless?
Regarding her being okay to meet, I guess she is happy to get the money regardless of whether you can put a finger in her lol.
It could also be that she simply doesn't like you that much and hopes you get the hint...not nice I know but it happens.

[Kiki kong]

OP
You have clear simp‐tom's that you are being taken advantage of.
You do have my simp-athy that she just sees you as a weekly pay check.

Let us know who's your regular is and will do you a solid and bang that pussy outa revenge for you. No need to get your hands dirty for this. We got you bro.

[booty_duty]

Lol... I reckon if you keep seeing her, she'll end up putting a gimp mask on you and tie you to the corner.

Just ditch the bitch and move on.

[justincase]

OP
You have clear simp‐tom's that you are being taken advantage of.
You do have my simp-athy that she just sees you as a weekly pay check.

Let us know who's your regular is and will do you a solid and bang that pussy outa revenge for you. No need to get your hands dirty for this. We got you bro.

Well you explained that simply enough. If you bang her too hard she may become bow legged so just give her a simple bang,

[andrewv]

I've been seeing a working lady regularly but instead of the service improving, I feel like she's starting to take advantage of me.

1. She's getting more comfortable saying no, including some stuff she used to do before.
2. She's always late. I've had to wait 10–30 minutes every session. That means she went overtime with others but never with me.
3. Sometimes she said she's tired because the previous punter was rough and asked for cuddles. Why let other punters go rough, then make me pay the price?
4. Once I texted her beforehand to check if she was okay to meet, and she said yes. But when we met, she had pussy pain and I couldn't even stick a finger in. Why not let me know earlier?

At first, I just kept my head down. But after a while, I started thinking, what the fuck is this bullshit?
Anyone else faced this before? Is it common for regulars to become complacent? I'm starting to think it's time to cut her off

She does not respect you AND she will not improve.
Simply stop this business (yes, it’s business) arrangement and use your money to buy at another shop, you have hundreds of options.

[justincase]

I've been seeing a working lady regularly but instead of the service improving, I feel like she's starting to take advantage of me.
But
2. She's always late. I've had to wait 10–30 minutes every session.

Every room has a clock so while she’s in the bathroom having a shower just wind the hands back twenty minutes or so and you’ll be ahead of yourself but don’t be too greedy and go too far back or the previous punter may come into the room looking for more action.

[justincase]

She does not respect you AND she will not improve.
Simply stop this business (yes, it’s business) arrangement and use your money to buy at another shop, you have hundreds of options.

Simply put, I like it! Have you ever thought about giving advice on a forum? I’d keep the advice simple though and not advise a punter he has hundreds of options. You may find it a simple task but others not so simple.

[chemistry84]

Why do you guys treat some of these girls like your girl-friends. They're WL, if they don't provide the services agreed then move on. If anything they should treat regulars better instead, which isn't the case here.

[RickyPunting]

It's a WL and u keep seeing the same one? That's the fkn headline! FFS get variety not the feels.

[forgotmyumbrella]

Regulars should be looked after but instead she treats them like crap because she knows they'll keep coming, and throws all her attention at random customers who won't see her again. Now isn't that stupid? Can't expect much logic from these chicks anyway

[forgotmyumbrella]

Don’t see her anymore. In fact, you should make it known to her that you’re seeing others. Even better if it’s at the same shop. For the ultimate effect ask for a lineup, and from that lineup pick someone else. Make sure she’s in the lineup.

If you're keen on playing the revenge game, there are way nastier things you could do to make her lose business or even her job. And it'd be pretty easy to do, not that I'm saying you should...

[fixatedperson]

I went through this with an ML. I wouldn't say she took me for granted but the service changed, not necessarily for the worse.

The first time I railed her with my finger in her ass, licked her asshole etc. She later told me she doesn't like assplay and would prefer I stop which I did.

But the familiarity meant the service was different in other ways which I liked. It's all about what you're after.

[Double_Adapter]

OP
You have clear simp‐tom's that you are being taken advantage of.
You do have my simp-athy that she just sees you as a weekly pay check.

Let us know who's your regular is and will do you a solid and bang that pussy outa revenge for you. No need to get your hands dirty for this. We got you bro.

Couldn't have said it better myself - here's the summarised version for the op

1. The constant no's? a SIMP-tom she’s got zero respect for him
2. Her chronic lateness? a SIMP-le sign that his time is worth jack shit to her.
3. Letting rough blokes smash her, then serving him the scraps? SIMP-ly insulting
4. Rocking up with pussy pain but still pocketing his cash? Flat out disrespect. He dropped his boundaries, and now she's SIMP-ly taking advantage and seeing how far she can milk the bloke.

[forgotmyumbrella]

I went through this with an ML. I wouldn't say she took me for granted but the service changed, not necessarily for the worse.

The first time I railed her with my finger in her ass, licked her asshole etc. She later told me she doesn't like assplay and would prefer I stop which I did.

But the familiarity meant the service was different in other ways which I liked. It's all about what you're after.

yeah while you pull back because you're "respecting" her, other punters are definitely going to town fingering her ass furiously. If anything, now that you're a regular, she should allow you to double finger her ass, not stopping you.

[fixatedperson]

yeah while you pull back because you're "respecting" her, other punters are definitely going to town fingering her ass furiously. If anything, now that you're a regular, she should allow you to double finger her ass, not stopping you.

When I want assplay I go to an WL who does anal. There's no need to force a girl to do things she doesn't like when there's other girls who will do it.

[woods23]

Maybe the girl don't like him anymore.
But seems he still persisting her ..why not take him for granted, easy money. If he move on, I don't think she's care . Clearly this is not a regular look after theirs Value regulars.

I got a regular ml for yrs, then she increased her prices, I thought that too much $$$ . So I had moved on. I don't think she will missed me one bit. We some time over flattered ourselves. I guess she has putting up with me for while finally decided to increase...once the bond is broken , it's good bye.

[1inchguy]

Not to that extreme but I have stop seeing regular cause before she used to give me hard massages which is why I see her.
Knees the back, back cracking. Love getting stretched out and calf pains like im seeing physio.
Full service was nothing to boost about. Basically star fish but I like thr massage that's why I come back.
Eventually her massage wasnt hard anymore. She end up talking more.
I reduced our session and rarely see each other. Sometimes she messages me with tempting pictures to get me back in

[11Bravo]

Maybe the girl don't like him anymore.
But seems he still persisting her ..why not take him for granted, easy money. If he move on, I don't think she's care . Clearly this is not a regular look after theirs Value regulars.

I got a regular ml for yrs, then she increased her prices, I thought that too much $$$ . So I had moved on. I don't think she will missed me one bit. We some time over flattered ourselves. I guess she has putting up with me for while finally decided to increase...once the bond is broken , it's good bye.
Exactly.

She moves up-market, you just become a gap-filler, if that. No problem, both move on, it's just business.

Her shine is eclipsed by another, you stop booking. No problem, you don't need to wear a bulletproof vest when you're out 'n about. It's just business.

I had one regular for a number of months, LT every Saturday night. I knew she was new when we met, why she needed a mentor for the negotiations. I was her first customer in country (she told me 6 months later). Then, one week, when I SMS'd to confirm the assignation, she was busy. OK. Same the next week. 3rd week, I simply asked if I was wasting my time. "Yes, sorry; good business". She could do better consistently. No problem, just business. So I became a gap-filler: afternoon delight, ST. Worked for her, worked for me; just business.

PS: When I was relocating back home, I messaged her, asking for one last time, LT. No problem, she agreed, inserting me (pun intended) into her schedule for that night at my LT rate. We had a blast. Still, just business, with respect.

It's just business.

[Sinkie]

It's just business but when she couldn't even do her business then what's in it for me right?

[Sinkie]

Thanks for the input everyone. I've decided to move on from her and I'll find someone else who will value my time and money.

[Sinkie]

For anyone PM'd me asking about her, it's an ML in the city area, not a WL

A few people PM'd me and said they faced the same thing lol. Glad we can share our experience here.

[11Bravo]

It's just business but when she couldn't even do her business then what's in it for me right?

Consider a restaurant you patronize. You have a reservation, get a window table, week after week. Then, the table becomes not-a-window table. Then, you get a "You'll have to wait for a table..." and you see other people arrive after you get tables. And when you do get a table, it's in the alcove by the kitchen. And your order takes a long time, arrives cold. It's just that your business is not all that important to the restaurant's income. What do you do?

She COULD do her business, just not with you. What's in it for you? Knowing it's time to hit the bricks. Time to dine elsewhere.

[schloong]

Sums it up just nicely mate - thanks...

[pmmeyourknee_]

Not all of them like regulars. They see 10 men everyday, 50+ men weekly. You're not special bros. Unless they don't have many customers, Losing you costs them nothing. Always remember that. Move on!

https://i.postimg.cc/TY0jsKFg/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-22-14-pm.png

[pmmeyourknee_]

For anyone PM'd me asking about her, it's an ML in the city area, not a WL

A few people PM'd me and said they faced the same thing lol. Glad we can share our experience here.

It's really fucking sad out there! So many lonely simps being taken advantage by these ladies. They're laughing at you, trust me I know.

[Incognito]

It's really fucking sad out there! So many lonely simps being taken advantage by these ladies. They're laughing at you, trust me I know.

Yea mate, I get some girls telling me how needy some punters are. Gifts, packed lunches, cakes and sweets and even paying for some of their bills. Like WTF

Then again it not my time, energy or my pineapples. So whatever LOL

[pmmeyourknee_]

Yea mate, I get some girls telling me how needy some punters are. Gifts, packed lunches, cakes and sweets and even paying for some of their bills. Like WTF

Then again it not my time, energy or my pineapples. So whatever LOL

Absolutely 100% true I can confirm. Imagine giving them sweets after cumming inside their mouth :shout:

[Studd]

I've been seeing a working lady regularly but instead of the service improving, I feel like she's starting to take advantage of me.

1. She's getting more comfortable saying no, including some stuff she used to do before.
2. She's always late. I've had to wait 10–30 minutes every session. That means she went overtime with others but never with me.
3. Sometimes she said she's tired because the previous punter was rough and asked for cuddles. Why let other punters go rough, then make me pay the price?
4. Once I texted her beforehand to check if she was okay to meet, and she said yes. But when we met, she had pussy pain and I couldn't even stick a finger in. Why not let me know earlier?

At first, I just kept my head down. But after a while, I started thinking, what the fuck is this bullshit?
Anyone else faced this before? Is it common for regulars to become complacent? I'm starting to think it's time to cut her off
A smart WL /ML would pretend to be your friend so she can get away with anything.
End up using you . Can't do this can't do that it's ok you still pay without the service . Because they make believe you are friends. Alot of punters will fall for this.

[F0x]

For anyone PM'd me asking about her, it's an ML in the city area, not a WL

A few people PM'd me and said they faced the same thing lol. Glad we can share our experience here.

Oh so others have also experienced this decline in service with the same girl lol.

Is it a well known shop?

So many choices.

I too have recently just started to switch up my punting to different shops and seeing whats out there.

Sometimes one forgets how much goddamn choice we have.

I mean, there shops EVERYWHERE.

Good luck.

[Hedonisticfun]

It's a WL and u keep seeing the same one? That's the fkn headline! FFS get variety not the feels.

Oh contraire Rick , if you're onto (or into haha) a good thing stick to it . Better to have a good connection and excellent service. Nothing worse than trying new WLs /MLs and being sadly disappointed let alone visiting unhygienic and shabby dumps .Yeah occasionally might find a good one but after a long arduous disappointing search.

[justincase]

Yea mate, I get some girls telling me how needy some punters are. Gifts, packed lunches, cakes and sweets and even paying for some of their bills. Like WTF

Then again it not my time, energy or my pineapples. So whatever LOL

Some guys spend a small fortune on their girlfriends and they’re not even “solid”. What’s the difference? If you’re getting out of it what you want then the spend is justified. Sometimes I think of it as charity and is there anything wrong with being charitable or generous? They can’t all have a great day at work so why not help them out?

[Double_Adapter]

Some guys spend a small fortune on their girlfriends and they’re not even “solid”. What’s the difference? If you’re getting out of it what you want then the spend is justified. Sometimes I think of it as charity and is there anything wrong with being charitable or generous? They can’t all have a great day at work so why not help them out?

Charitable....an interesting choice of word to drop in a joint like this. Ain't nothing wrong with being generous, but the real question is whether you are giving out of kindness, or cause you’re angling for something in return?

Selective Charitable: Only generous with certain chicks hoping your wallet buys you a bit more than the standard service

Opportunistic Charitable: generous when you smell an opening.....a tip here, a gift there, hoping it lands you an extra round, some GFE, a CIM surprise, her real phone number, boyfriend status etc.

Altruistic Charitable: Generous across the board, no strings attached MILFs, GILFs, old Asian boilers, chicks with dodgy hygiene, overweight, the lot and you don’t expect a thing in return. Now that’s the purest form of punter charity right there.

[Sinkie]

Some updates:

I haven't visited her again and she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch. Glad I cut heroff. Without this forum, she'd probably still be milking me dry.

I've found a new girl that I like at a different shop. Fingers crossed. I know better this time.

[Sinkie]

And your order takes a long time, arrives cold. It's just that your business is not all that important to the restaurant's income. What do you do?

She COULD do her business, just not with you. What's in it for you? Knowing it's time to hit the bricks. Time to dine elsewhere.


Not all of them like regulars. They see 10 men everyday, 50+ men weekly. You're not special bros. Unless they don't have many customers, Losing you costs them nothing. Always remember that. Move on!

Unfortunately what you're saying seems to be 100% accurate. Good one

[jedibear]

Some updates:

I haven't visited her again and she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch. Glad I cut heroff. Without this forum, she'd probably still be milking me dry.

I've found a new girl that I like at a different shop. Fingers crossed. I know better this time.Good on you mate. Hope your new girl services you well and don't fall into the trap of letting em take your business for granted.

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[bung72]

I've found a new girl that I like at a different shop. Fingers crossed. I know better this time.

Don't go making the same mistakes now.... keep seeing different girls....

[justincase]

Who doesn’t take advantage of someone?

[ColesBag]

Some updates:

I haven't visited her again and she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch. Glad I cut heroff. Without this forum, she'd probably still be milking me dry.

I've found a new girl that I like at a different shop. Fingers crossed. I know better this time.

It's just business, nothing personal.

Happy fucking at your new locale.

[11Bravo]

I haven't visited her again and she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch. Glad I cut heroff. Without this forum, she'd probably still be milking me dry.
Bitch? Really?!? Why, because she didn't fulfill your fantasy of messaging you, asking about you, that she missed you, so you could message her back with a "F*ck off BITCH"? What exactly did she owe you sans pay?

WADR, I think you still don't understand the methodology of P4P. That's the trouble with punting when you don't have any (or many) IRL experiences with RL relationships, thus mistaking sex for a relationship. You were nice to hear, gave her gifts, tips, put up with substandard service, and for that she owes you what? That's on YOU.

You work for a living? Have a job? Great boss, gives you overtime, achievement bonuses, performance awards... Great. But if you get a better offer from another boss, are you going to stick around? You get complacent, slack off, boss fires you... seems to me that job AND salary wasn't all that important to you. Just BUSINESS.

Even if you don't have a job, certainly you've gone to a restaurant. The waitress who always greets you, gives you a great table, chats with you as she takes your order, brings your food... that's her JOB. Doesn't mean she wants to see you outside the restaurant. When you walk out the door, you're out of her world, and she's on to the next customer. That's her job. It's BUSINESS. You might THINK you have a relationship, a connection... and that's where real life experiences help you differentiate between fantasy and reality.

No, they're not all out to get you. You can have a connection with an acquaintance, just like those work colleagues, other students. You might have lunch together, but how many are you going to invite home for dinner?

You condemn a great actress playing a part in a play that you've bought a ticket for, when after the show's over, she doesn't continue in character? You enjoyed the performance, sent her a bouquet... so what? It's her job; I'm sure she's pleased you were happy. But when another show comes along...

It's not personal. Cuts both ways. What exactly do you own a provider who's given you a great time, free extras, but you're just not that interested after awhile? Continuing repeat business, or do you just move on? It's BUSINESS.

My advice? Lose the entitled attitude, have a good time, enjoy the company. But DON'T mistake it for real life. It's called a gfE for a reason; it's not a GF, no matter how much you want it to be.

[1inchguy]

Some updates:

she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch.

Woah you seem crazy here mate. Maybe its a good thing she didnt reach out to you

[bung72]

My advice? Lose the entitled attitude, have a good time, enjoy the company. But DON'T mistake it for real life. It's called a gfE for a reason; it's not a GF, no matter how much you want it to be.

Good advice.

Last week I saw a really nice girl for the 4th time. I give her her GFE extras money, and generally an extra 50-100, and we have had great sessions.
So she comes in, we hug, she explains how glad she was when she saw it was me who booked her.... Nice, I thought.
In the shower, out. Onto the bed - I lean in for a kiss.....
'So, do you want the girlfriend experience..?'
I'd forgotten to pay her.
My fault. Just totally slipped my mind - the money was in my pocket of my duds.
Paid her, and had a good session.

But - it did bum me just a bit..... it shouldn't have of course.

Be careful guys!

[Sinkie]

Bitch? Really?!? Why, because she didn't fulfill your fantasy of messaging you, asking about you, that she missed you, so you could message her back with a "F*ck off BITCH"? What exactly did she owe you sans pay?



Woah you seem crazy here mate. Maybe its a good thing she didnt reach out to you

I never messaged her "fuck off bitch". Things just ended in silence. Don't forget she was the one manipulating me. I didn't do anything to her

We had been messaging before. It would take her less than 5s to send a message. If I'm not worth even 5s, then I will just disappear as she probably wishes

[11Bravo]

Why, because she didn't fulfill your fantasy of messaging you, asking about you, that she missed you, so you could message her back with a "F*ck off BITCH"?

I never messaged her "fuck off bitch".
Read it again: I said your FANTASY... perhaps you do have a difficult time distinguishing fantasy from reality.


We had been messaging before. It would take her less than 5s to send a message. If I'm not worth even 5s, then I will just disappear as she probably wishes
Bold added for emphasis in the quote. before, and probably? Learn to read the room. Clear that she wasn't interested, so why should she message you? Do you message girls (I assume there's some) that you no longer see, will not see, just to say "hi". Why? You're clutter. Most punters don't want unsolicited messages and most all girls understand that.

So do you always immediately answer your messages even when you're working? You're FIRED. There was another punter on here that rated his friends by their response times. I guess we all have our own criteria. I just never consider myself the center of the universe (more an outside moon with little gravitational pull, but then, I'm never offering a PERMANENT orbit).

It's a gfE. You want a GF? You're looking in the wrong places...


Things just ended in silence.
Old soldiers (providers, punters) never die, they just fade away.




'So, do you want the girlfriend experience..?'
I'd forgotten to pay her.
My fault. Just totally slipped my mind - the money was in my pocket of my duds.
Paid her, and had a good session
Happens to all of us. Reminded me of the time, a girl I'd seen a couple of times. Great service. This time, we finish, she cleans up, I dress. Say goodbye, heading for the door. She asks if I've forgotten anything. I check; no, have my sunglasses, phone, bag. I'm good to go. She asks if I'm sure. I say Yes, I'm sure. "My money..." I sheepishly (baa baa) said sorry, paid her. That girl done did fucked my brains out.

[Folcis]

I never messaged her "fuck off bitch". Things just ended in silence. Don't forget she was the one manipulating me. I didn't do anything to her

We had been messaging before. It would take her less than 5s to send a message. If I'm not worth even 5s, then I will just disappear as she probably wishes

I think what people are trying to gently point out is that you are being overly emotional about this, and it isn't healthy for you to feel this way.

It's easy for me to say this because I'm not in your position, however I get it. I have definitely been cut up in the past in situations like yours, just as some of the girls get jealous and possessive of their customers. It's the nature of this industry.

The reality is there are tons of great providers out there, and the advise you have consistently been given is to look for her and move on from this one without regret or anger. And it is good advise.

[justincase]

The message game… you need to have an IDGAF attitude. Yes they live on their phones and yes they choose if and when they respond to your message so you treat them the same way. Let them hang.

For example one WL I previously wrote about made me wait, so now I’ll txt her once every week or two about something totally irrelevant to punting or dating and yes she’s waiting to go out on a second date but I can’t be bothered to set to a time or a day. So now when I send a txt within 5 minutes she replies back…. She can wait.

Another ML has gone off the radar because I stopped replying to her daily broadcast which she no doubt sent to others. She thinks I’ll chase but I won’t. That game of hers isn’t working now. Yes we dated and was good company but I’m not playing her game. She can wait too. Nothings changed in her life, same friends, same clubs she goes too, same same same. Been there, done that and unless she’s got something different to offer why go back?

[bung72]

The message game…

Messaging?? I played that once outside of punting with an affair.... it did my head in.
I'm very happy to not be messaging these girls, in any case as a married punter it would be very bloody game. Our phones here aren't super secret. Often while driving, my wife will pick up my phone to do something, like send pics of the kids to her phone or something, so I need to keep it pretty sterile! My facebook feed these days would raise her eyebrows I'm sure! :D

[11Bravo]

The message game…
Myself, I don't play games, no interest in video games, no interest in phone games; my life is too short. I like messaging because it's a "at your convenience" style. For punting, with some regulars, I'll give a quarterly ping to check comms, and so when I'm BOTG, it's not a cold call. When BOTG, I'll message rather than call for a booking just so I don't disturb. Simple reciprocity; when she's with me, she's with me, sans interruptions. Like I said, not the center of the universe.

[bhd]

you are getting the VIP wife treatment package .....
you should be grateful... haha..

[justincase]

Myself, I don't play games, no interest in video games, no interest in phone games; my life is too short. I like messaging because it's a "at your convenience" style. For punting, with some regulars, I'll give a quarterly ping to check comms, and so when I'm BOTG, it's not a cold call. When BOTG, I'll message rather than call for a booking just so I don't disturb. Simple reciprocity; when she's with me, she's with me, sans interruptions. Like I said, not the center of the universe.

The exchange of numbers is part of the game.

She gives you her number because you asked for it. I’ve never seen any WL give away a number before she was asked. They don’t spruik like that do they? So you initiate the game and she follows through.


It brings you just that little bit closer and you think it’s gives you an edge. That the punter with her number is getting more of a step in than one without. That you’ll get the next level of treatment because we’re “social”. It’s a feel good moment when she shares her number isn’t it? Even if it IS her work one.

Like chasing a GF the first thing you do is exchange numbers. Without comms nothing transcribes, you want more you communicate more, there is no telepathy.

Whether the messages mean anything or go anywhere is entirely up to you.

[Folcis]

The exchange of numbers is part of the game.

She gives you her number because you asked for it. I’ve never seen any WL give away a number before she was asked.

Well, I'm the opposite. I've never asked for her number and only ever got her number because she reached out to me or asked for my number.

I also only used the number to book sessions. No time for games or bullshit, or dates for that matter.

[11Bravo]

The exchange of numbers is part of the game.

She gives you her number because you asked for it. I’ve never seen any WL give away a number before she was asked. They don’t spruik like that do they? So you initiate the game and she follows through.

It brings you just that little bit closer and you think it’s gives you an edge. That the punter with her number is getting more of a step in than one without. That you’ll get the next level of treatment because we’re “social”. It’s a feel good moment when she shares her number isn’t it? Even if it IS her work one.

Like chasing a GF the first thing you do is exchange numbers. Without comms nothing transcribes, you want more you communicate more, there is no telepathy.

Whether the messages mean anything or go anywhere is entirely up to you.
Damn, that logic is way TOO convoluted for me. As I've said, the biggest advance in PUNTING in 30 years is when providers could afford mobile phones. Not smart phones, simple phones with SMS. I want to see her again, I ask for her contact, and, most often, she provides it. Then it's trivial to find her again. Simple, PRACTICAL, no games involved.

Edge? Steps? Yea, so much easier to arrange a rendezvous when you have comms. No plaintive whining posts of "Does anyone know where she went?" Yes, I DO; I just message her. No wandering around shop to shop, bar to bar, "Oh where oh where can she be?" It saves me steps, time, money (why pay an entrance fee to look for her when she might not be there?) A simple query will do ya; Let your fingers do the walking.

Now, with smart phones, apps with built-in translators, trivial for that next assignation. Don't even have to break a sweat (well, at least before you meet her).

You want to date them? Up to you. Me, I'm here professionally.

TDY, BOTG, hit the ground running...

Exhibit #1:

Hey Jimmi, I rang the shop but was told that Tina no longer there. Just wondering if you have her contact or know which shop she’s working at now?
There's even a thread for that.

[justincase]

Damn, that logic is way TOO convoluted for me. As I've said, the biggest advance in PUNTING in 30 years is when providers could afford mobile phones. Not smart phones, simple phones with SMS. I want to see her again, I ask for her contact, and, most often, she provides it. Then it's trivial to find her again. Simple, PRACTICAL, no games involved.

Edge? Steps? Yea, so much easier to arrange a rendezvous when you have comms. No plaintive whining posts of "Does anyone know where she went?" Yes, I DO; I just message her. No wandering around shop to shop, bar to bar, "Oh where oh where can she be?" It saves me steps, time, money (why pay an entrance fee to look for her when she might not be there?) A simple query will do ya; Let your fingers do the walking.

Now, with smart phones, apps with built-in translators, trivial for that next assignation. Don't even have to break a sweat (well, at least before you meet her).

You want to date them? Up to you. Me, I'm here professionally.

TDY, BOTG, hit the ground running...

Exhibit #1:

There's even a thread for that.

Well the ploy with the ML worked and she’s messaged back all sweet, polite, nice and with good manners. See, what did it take, two or three days? This isn’t about punting, it’s about dating someone you want, anyone can punt them but going the next step is a game of chance.

[11Bravo]

Well the ploy with the ML worked and she’s messaged back all sweet, polite, nice and with good manners. See, what did it take, two or three days? This isn’t about punting, it’s about dating someone you want, anyone can punt them but going the next step is a game of chance.
Come on, let's be serious. You know you can roll those dice, but eventually you will crap out. Meaningless punt, meaningless date, all the same to me. Seems you're the only one who is impressed with your flexing.

[justincase]

Come on, let's be serious. You know you can roll those dice, but eventually you will crap out. Meaningless punt, meaningless date, all the same to me. Seems you're the only one who is impressed with your flexing.

It’s not a flex but a fact. Stating facts are allowed I presume? This one is most definitely living together material and when we’ve been out it’s really wonderful.

Have you ever thought about someone special or someone so unique that in your wildest dreams you thought one day you could have just that? The thought that’s been in the back of your mind for a very long time and then one day that thought becomes reality. Well that’s how she is to me. Before I didn’t respect her as she was a number, punt, date and burn.

Now my thinking is different.

You should be happy for me, at least I’m happy for myself… Now as long as I don’t burn her for some really really stupid reason everything will be fine.

I felt I’d just put it out here and will tell my RL mates when I get around to talking to them. Perhaps my only issue is her friends and what they think of me but I’m sure she’ll think she’s playing me somehow and will present two sides, one for them and one for me.

You only live once @11Bravo so I’ll move forward with this one.

[Double_Adapter]

Come on, let's be serious. You know you can roll those dice, but eventually you will crap out. Meaningless punt, meaningless date, all the same to me. Seems you're the only one who is impressed with your flexing.

Dating, chasing, or gaming a sex worker ain’t fucken flexing, bro. It’s screams desperate and needy simp behavior disguised as confidence. It'd be like buying your own birthday present and acting surprised!........just saying

[11Bravo]

Now as long as I don’t burn her for some really really stupid reason everything will be fine.

I felt I’d just put it out here and will tell my RL mates when I get around to talking to them. Perhaps my only issue is her friends and what they think of me but I’m sure she’ll think she’s playing me somehow and will present two sides, one for them and one for me.

You only live once @11Bravo so I’ll move forward with this one.
Well, you know what they say: the best predictor of future performance is past performance. Like they also say, time will tell. But I'd say not off to a good start by thinking that she's thinking that she's playing... Sorry, just all too convoluted for me.

But needing to post the news here... doesn't strike me as thinking all that differently, more along the lines of "look at me, I'm in a relationship with a working girl..." I'd think the key would be when you stop thinking of her as a working girl and start thinking of her as a person, but that's just me.

I will sincerely say, good luck. You are correct, only one life.


Dating, chasing, or gaming a sex worker ain’t fucken flexing, bro. It’s screams desperate and needy simp behavior disguised as confidence. It'd be like buying your own birthday present and acting surprised!........just saying
LOL when I first read, stopped to reply, read it again, and LOL again. THANKS, brilliant.

[justincase]

Dating, chasing, or gaming a sex worker ain’t fucken flexing, bro. It’s screams desperate and needy simp behavior disguised as confidence. It'd be like buying your own birthday present and acting surprised!........just saying


Aren’t I entitled to another folly?

I’m the one who chases these women whilst you guys pay them then leave and of course I pay them initially but I use it as a filter for an end game. If the sex is good and they’re hot looking then yes I’m dating them.

You only have to go out with a hottie on your arm and see the looks you get and in fact this ML is a most definite head turner. In fact I’d walk her all around town just for the looks she gets from guys of all ages and other women.

Is there anything wrong with that?

How is it simpish or desperate and needy when I control everything? Whether they stay or go is entirely up to me and as I’ve written previously I have a propensity for dumping any of them on a whim.

[Becareful]

Aren’t I entitled to another folly?

I’m the one who chases these women whilst you guys pay them then leave and of course I pay them initially but I use it as a filter for an end game. If the sex is good and they’re hot looking then yes I’m dating them.

You only have to go out with a hottie on your arm and see the looks you get and in fact this ML is a most definite head turner. In fact I’d walk her all around town just for the looks she gets from guys of all ages and other women.

Is there anything wrong with that?

How is it simpish or desperate and needy when I control everything? Whether they stay or go is entirely up to me and as I’ve written previously I have a propensity for dumping any of them on a whim.

You need counselling especially from what you wrote. You sound narcissistic where I even confirmed with ChatGPT...
"Based on the tone and the way the person describes their approach to dating, it could definitely be seen as narcissistic. The focus on control, validation, and objectifying others for personal gain can be traits of narcissism. There's also a bit of detachment from how the women might feel in the situation, which can be a sign of a lack of empathy, something often associated with narcissistic behavior."

[ChadThunderrcock]

Some updates:

I haven't visited her again and she didn't even reached out, clearly she didn't give a single fuck. What a bitch. Glad I cut heroff. Without this forum, she'd probably still be milking me dry.

I've found a new girl that I like at a different shop. Fingers crossed. I know better this time.

Unless you look like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, BTS, SuperJunior, these girls don't want anything to do with you outside of the shop. So they will not reach out or message you. Get a girlfriend if this is what you're after

Otherwise you are just another number/paycheck/customer to her

[jedibear]

Unless you look like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, BTS, SuperJunior, these girls don't want anything to do with you outside of the shop. So they will not reach out or message you. Get a girlfriend if this is what you're after

Otherwise you are just another number/paycheck/customer to herAlternatively, u could also look like Jabba the Hutt but have a big fat bank account and they would also be more than happy to hang out with you outside of the shop...

Sent from my SM-S911B using Tapatalk

[Punt2Win]

Just read the whole thread and what a laugh. There are wolves and there are sheep and one will never be the other. The main problem is some sheep think they're wolves.

Playing hard to get with a female who is washing off the loads of 10 different guys every day...you player you...

[justincase]

You need counselling especially from what you wrote. You sound narcissistic where I even confirmed with ChatGPT..."

Who started this thread???

If he adopted my methodology he wouldn’t be complaining. Just like those other guys in that other thread about losing money to some woman.

The fact I don’t succumb to any skullduggery is a plus for the collective punting brotherhood. Or would you prefer I change my ways and eventually start a thread complaining how I’ve been treated and lost money?

I do have morals and haven’t taken any SW to the cleaners so ChatGPT should be happy!

[justincase]

Playing hard to get with a female who is washing off the loads of 10 different guys every day...you player you...

Yep and those 10 guys paid for that privilege. Then they go back home to their “trophy wives”, the prize they got for coming last. I mean, that’s why they punt isn’t it? The quality pussy back home…

[Punt2Win]

To the tune of Michael Jackson's somebody's watching me...

I'm just an average man, with an average life
I work from 9 to 5, hey hell I pay the price

I can't stand to be left alone, in my average home
but why do I always feel, like I'm in the friendship zone and

I always feel like, my "regular's taking advantage of meeeeeeeeee"...and she wants her privacy whoah whoah
I always feel like, someone thrashed her just before meeeeeeeee... tell me who can it be ?!?!?

[ironmonk]

Just read the whole thread and what a laugh. There are wolves and there are sheep and one will never be the other. The main problem is some sheep think they're wolves.

Playing hard to get with a female who is washing off the loads of 10 different guys every day...you player you...

Spot on lol. Three archetypes: Pimp, Player and Pig.

If you're paying for it you sure aren't a pimp.

And both the player and the pig just exist to make the pimp rich.

[Joun23]

I've been seeing a working lady regularly but instead of the service improving, I feel like she's starting to take advantage of me.

1. She's getting more comfortable saying no, including some stuff she used to do before.
2. She's always late. I've had to wait 10–30 minutes every session. That means she went overtime with others but never with me.
3. Sometimes she said she's tired because the previous punter was rough and asked for cuddles. Why let other punters go rough, then make me pay the price?
4. Once I texted her beforehand to check if she was okay to meet, and she said yes. But when we met, she had pussy pain and I couldn't even stick a finger in. Why not let me know earlier?

At first, I just kept my head down. But after a while, I started thinking, what the fuck is this bullshit?
Anyone else faced this before? Is it common for regulars to become complacent? I'm starting to think it's time to cut her off

Go to the shop when she is on roster and ask for a line-up including her.
Then choose another girl for a refreshing session and make her upset.
I did it once a few years ago to a WL who texted me saying she wanted to see me next time, but I ignored and moved on. Those girls don't deserve your regular donations.
I'm keeping a close eye on two of my regulars at the moment who has kind of started showing the same issue but will give them another chance to improve before I move on

[forgotmyumbrella]

Go to the shop when she is on roster and ask for a line-up including her.
Then choose another girl for a refreshing session and make her upset.
I did it once a few years ago to a WL who texted me saying she wanted to see me next time, but I ignored and moved on. Those girls don't deserve your regular donations.
I'm keeping a close eye on two of my regulars at the moment who has kind of started showing the same issue but will give them another chance to improve before I move on

This is how you play it, they treat you like an ATM, you treat them like a condom. Once it's used up, grab a new one. It's just business
Those who catch feelings lose. That's the game.

[11Bravo]

It’s not a flex but a fact. Stating facts are allowed I presume? This one is most definitely living together material and when we’ve been out it’s really wonderful.

Have you ever thought about someone special or someone so unique that in your wildest dreams you thought one day you could have just that? The thought that’s been in the back of your mind for a very long time and then one day that thought becomes reality. Well that’s how she is to me. Before I didn’t respect her as she was a number, punt, date and burn.

Now my thinking is different.


Aren’t I entitled to another folly?

I’m the one who chases these women whilst you guys pay them then leave and of course I pay them initially but I use it as a filter for an end game. If the sex is good and they’re hot looking then yes I’m dating them.

You only have to go out with a hottie on your arm and see the looks you get and in fact this ML is a most definite head turner. In fact I’d walk her all around town just for the looks she gets from guys of all ages and other women.

Is there anything wrong with that?

How is it simpish or desperate and needy when I control everything? Whether they stay or go is entirely up to me and as I’ve written previously I have a propensity for dumping any of them on a whim.
Damn, well that tune quickly changed, went from "She's the one" to "Dumpable at any time".

That must be the trouble with an over-inflated ego, constantly needs to get pumped up. Like that tire with a slow leak, always having to stop and fill it up. You need approbation from the crowd... always looking around rather than enjoying the company you're with?

You're no different than the OP. The adults here know the difference between punting and dating. In the former, she's playing a role; in the latter, she's herself. With you, it's the same, just a change of venue. And that's your insecurity, never knowing the real person, what she's really thinking. Why you can never trust, always ready to bail. And the thing is, you know it.

You have to control everything? How BORING.

[11Bravo]

Go to the shop when she is on roster and ask for a line-up including her.
Then choose another girl for a refreshing session and make her upset.
I did it once a few years ago to a WL who texted me saying she wanted to see me next time, but I ignored and moved on. Those girls don't deserve your regular donations.
I'm keeping a close eye on two of my regulars at the moment who has kind of started showing the same issue but will give them another chance to improve before I move on


This is how you play it, they treat you like an ATM, you treat them like a condom. Once it's used up, grab a new one. It's just business
Those who catch feelings lose. That's the game.
What is this, high school. By golly gee whiskers, I'm gonna show that Mary Ann... I'm taking Peggy Sue to the prom.

Your fantasy:

After you pick another girl from the lineup, Ms Original will run back to the break room with broken heart.

The reality:

Ms Original goes back to the break room thinking, damn missed another chance at an easy payday. But he still thinks of me. Oh well, maybe he's finally gotten the hint.

And then, after Ms Alt gets back to the break room, Ms Original will clue her in on, if you return, how she can play you.

The adult play is to just walk away. Your barber doesn't give you the great service anymore, to show him up, you pick another barber from the same shop? Just go to another shop, using the Yelp (Aus99) listings.

Why do so many want to play games, seem to fail to understand, it's just BUSINESS.

You treat her like a person, she'll be a person. You treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. IF she stops being a person, you simply walk away, no hissy-fit required.

[1inchguy]

What is this, high school. By golly gee whiskers, I'm gonna show that Mary Ann... I'm taking Peggy Sue to the prom.

Your fantasy:

After you pick another girl from the lineup, Ms Original will run back to the break room with broken heart.

The reality:

Ms Original goes back to the break room thinking, damn missed another chance at an easy payday. But he still thinks of me. Oh well, maybe he's finally gotten the hint.

And then, after Ms Alt gets back to the break room, Ms Original will clue her in on, if you return, how she can play you.

The adult play is to just walk away. Your barber doesn't give you the great service anymore, to show him up, you pick another barber from the same shop? Just go to another shop, using the Yelp (Aus99) listings.

Why do so many want to play games, seem to fail to understand, it's just BUSINESS.

You treat her like a person, she'll be a person. You treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. IF she stops being a person, you simply walk away, no hissy-fit required.

This.
Who wants to play games with wl/ml?
Plus the whole point of the game is to see them naked and fuck them anyway. So if you're already paying them and seeing them as regular whats the point?
The only explanation is wanting freebies?

[Double_Adapter]

Some blokes out here treating a business transaction like a fucken romance novel, going full Romeo and Juliet; and instead of whispering under Juliet’s balcony, they’re at the brothel balcony professing eternal love to an Asian sex worker who’s probably mid-session getting railed by some old bald fat farang....Meanwhile, her phone is blowing up with dm's from random thirsty, needy, clingy and desperate simps spamming her with shit like 'good morning, sweetheart', 'I miss you baby', 'would you like to meet for coffee', 'love you', 'you busy/free now' ad nauseam

It's all fucked!!!.....

[11Bravo]

The only explanation is wanting freebies?
Nah, it's the little boy hurt ego; I'm gonna SHOW her... Like driving for the basket, slam dunk... when the other team and the crowd have already gone home (and the slam dunk bounces off the rim...).

[11Bravo]

Some blokes out here treating a business transaction like a fucken romance novel, going full Romeo and Juliet; and instead of whispering under Juliet’s balcony, they’re at the brothel balcony professing eternal love to an Asian sex worker who’s probably mid-session getting railed by some old bald fat farang....Meanwhile, her phone is blowing up with dm's from random thirsty, needy, clingy and desperate simps spamming her with shit like 'good morning, sweetheart', 'I miss you baby', 'would you like to meet for coffee', 'love you', 'you busy/free now' ad nauseam

It's all fucked!!!.....

Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE... You mean, when I'm sitting in my barber's chair, he asks me how I'm doing, he's just making small talk, REALLY doesn't care? When I'm sitting in the dentist's chair, she asks me how I'm doing, and I say, "Mngh gxocyu hmrcty", she really doesn't care? Say it ain't so, Joe!!!

Guess some just think that by gracing her with their presence for an hour, once, twice, few times a month, it'll be life changing for her... Proves that maturity is not a direct function of age. And education IS expensive.

[Double_Adapter]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE... You mean, when I'm sitting in my barber's chair, he asks me how I'm doing, he's just making small talk, REALLY doesn't care? When I'm sitting in the dentist's chair, she asks me how I'm doing, and I say, "Mngh gxocyu hmrcty", she really doesn't care? Say it ain't so, Joe!!!

Guess some just think that by gracing her with their presence for an hour, once, twice, few times a month, it'll be life changing for her... Proves that maturity is not a direct function of age. And education IS expensive.

Whoa-whoa-whoa bro....This shit is spreading faster than a bad haircut; barber shops included.....Didn’t you get the memo?

https://youtu.be/gScIyQrGWys?si=zGYx0p4j463nb0fj

[11Bravo]

Whoa-whoa-whoa bro....This shit is spreading faster than a bad haircut; barber shops included.....Didn’t you get the memo?

https://youtu.be/gScIyQrGWys?si=zGYx0p4j463nb0fj
No, didn't get the memo until you provided. LOL. How true.

Still, I'm sure some will think "Whoa, that player showed that bitch what was what, he crushed her".

Now, how about the dentist?

[justincase]

Some blokes out here treating a business transaction like a fucken romance novel, going full Romeo and Juliet; and instead of whispering under Juliet’s balcony, they’re at the brothel balcony professing eternal love to an Asian sex worker who’s probably mid-session getting railed by some old bald fat farang....Meanwhile, her phone is blowing up with dm's from random thirsty, needy, clingy and desperate simps spamming her with shit like 'good morning, sweetheart', 'I miss you baby', 'would you like to meet for coffee', 'love you', 'you busy/free now' ad nauseam

It's all fucked!!!.....

I’m of the opinion if the women look hot and sexy and you’ve punted them and had a fun time why not go further and date them? I’m not talking about love or romance as that’s for fools but doing everything else.

She’s hot, you already know she’s good in bed so why not date her? Who cares if she’s acting as long as your perception and your experience is good then why not?

[1inchguy]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE... You mean, when I'm sitting in my barber's chair, he asks me how I'm doing, he's just making small talk, REALLY doesn't care? When I'm sitting in the dentist's chair, she asks me how I'm doing, and I say, "Mngh gxocyu hmrcty", she really doesn't care? Say it ain't so, Joe!!!

Guess some just think that by gracing her with their presence for an hour, once, twice, few times a month, it'll be life changing for her... Proves that maturity is not a direct function of age. And education IS expensive.

Wait a minute, you're saying this therapist i've been seeing, getting me to open up myself doesn't really care about me and that she just doing her job?
And cause shes good looking i should take it as a challenge, get her number and make her fall in love with me?

[Double_Adapter]

I’m of the opinion if the women look hot and sexy and you’ve punted them and had a fun time why not go further and date them? I’m not talking about love or romance as that’s for fools but doing everything else.

She’s hot, you already know she’s good in bed so why not date her? Who cares if she’s acting as long as your perception and your experience is good then why not?

Can men and women ever just be friends? That question has been rattling around since the fucken dawn of time and chick flicks like When Harry Met Sally et al have attempted to answer this very same question.

But what you’re suggesting flips the Hollywood script: Bang a hot hooker, then try to date her, stay "just friends", and hopefully dodge catching feelings for the chick. Yeah….good luck with that. Many blokes here have tried that and have failed miserably.

As one bloke already pointed out, horny blokes eventually become one of the 4 P's: Punter, Player, Pimp or Pig

So the real question is which one will you choose to be?

[justincase]

Good or bad I’ve done all four.

It doesn’t matter what woman you spend time with they all cost money and if that’s the case then I’ll steer the direction and anything else really is simping.

In the long game if you already know from the outset that any relationship will have a shelf life then why waste your time pleasing others? Isn’t it better to please yourself first then them second? Sure spend money on them but make yourself happy while you’re doing that. They all end up with gifts so it’s not like they’re leaving empty handed is it?

They’ll go overseas and you message them when they come back and it’s “I’ve got no money”, “everything is expensive”, “I’ve got bills to pay”, when all you wanna hear is “let’s fuck”, so it’s like if she was smart she’d have shut up about the money till we hooked back up… now that woman has other guys to sponge off why hit me up straight away, we didn’t even get to the sex first… she offered nothing so she gets nothing.

Everything is transactional.

[Joun23]

What is this, high school. By golly gee whiskers, I'm gonna show that Mary Ann... I'm taking Peggy Sue to the prom.

Your fantasy:

After you pick another girl from the lineup, Ms Original will run back to the break room with broken heart.

The reality:

Ms Original goes back to the break room thinking, damn missed another chance at an easy payday. But he still thinks of me. Oh well, maybe he's finally gotten the hint.

And then, after Ms Alt gets back to the break room, Ms Original will clue her in on, if you return, how she can play you.

The adult play is to just walk away. Your barber doesn't give you the great service anymore, to show him up, you pick another barber from the same shop? Just go to another shop, using the Yelp (Aus99) listings.

Why do so many want to play games, seem to fail to understand, it's just BUSINESS.

You treat her like a person, she'll be a person. You treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. IF she stops being a person, you simply walk away, no hissy-fit required.

Why can't I play games with them?
You pay for their service so can have some expectations from their service.
If your WL/ML was not good enough, you can walk away and go to see other girls or places.
However, if your regular starts taking advantages from you, that's when you can play a mind game which makes you feel a little better and make them a little upset.
Broken heart? Hahaha you've gone too far

[11Bravo]

Why can't I play games with them?
You pay for their service so can have some expectations from their service.
If your WL/ML was not good enough, you can walk away and go to see other girls or places.
However, if your regular starts taking advantages from you, that's when you can play a mind game which makes you feel a little better and make them a little upset.
Broken heart? Hahaha you've gone too far
You can do whatever you want.

Myself, it's a waste of time and energy. It's a simple GAME OVER. Time's expired, whistle's blown, she's left the field. And you're out there still running plays? To make yourself feel better? Why? That's a hook. "No, bro, she doesn't have any hooks in me!" Sure she does, you still care, want to "win", be "superior", "make her feel upset". That's a hook (and she knows it). It's you looking backwards; she's looking forward, moved on. Found someone she likes better, maybe financially, maybe with a brighter prospective future, hell, maybe more entertaining. Machts nichts.

All this "taken", when the correct FULL term is "taken/given". "No" is also an answer, and disappointment, that's just the difference between your fantasy and reality. What I don't understand is, when someone has "taken advantage" of you, why wouldn't you be glad she's gone? Seems to me you're just more mad at yourself for being taken advantage of. Satchel Paige: “Don’t look back, something might be gaining on you.”

My best mate gave me the best advice in a civilian matter: Walk away, taking the high road. In the long run, you'll feel better about yourself, regardless. TRUE.

[justincase]

Why not play games? They do. They’re in the business of enticement and if they weren’t so enticing they wouldn’t have a job.

[forgotmyumbrella]

Why can't I play games with them?
You pay for their service so can have some expectations from their service.
If your WL/ML was not good enough, you can walk away and go to see other girls or places.
However, if your regular starts taking advantages from you, that's when you can play a mind game which makes you feel a little better and make them a little upset.
Broken heart? Hahaha you've gone too far

Totally agree. This ain't just poor service anymore. Don't forget we pay to see them, it ain't free. She's basically scamming you. What'd you do to a scammer? Up to you

[11Bravo]

Why not play games? They do. They’re in the business of enticement and if they weren’t so enticing they wouldn’t have a job.

With you, no doubt. They are great mirrors. You play games with them, they play games with you.

Too complicated for me to keep story lines straight. I respect them, they respect me. I'm straight with them, they're straight with me. I just like THAT symmetry.

[11Bravo]

Totally agree. This ain't just poor service anymore. Don't forget we pay to see them, it ain't free. She's basically scamming you. What'd you do to a scammer? Up to you

Only difference between a casual and a regular is that the regular gets a bit more leeway. If she starts to drift, she's warned. Drifts too far, simple, line cut. I don't have the time or energy to waste on "payback"; I'm too busy looking for the next regular, time and energy directed forward, not backward.

[schloong]

Spot on as usual thanks Bravo...