Why allow women and sex workers on a forum that reviews them?

[MindTheGap]

It’s a massive conflict of interest. I’ve seen this before and it always ends in tears. Just look at the drama over at Punter Planet over the years.

One bad AR or negative comment about service is all it takes.Or, there’s never an AR of the SW that is on the site that is bad because no one wants the backlash from her.

My comment not directed at any individual herself. Just the concept in general.

Ideally you want ARs to be private amongst members who pay for the service?

[Cassius1]

Surely fairness requires that they or their shop have the opportunity to respond.?

[neveragain]

And how exactly do you propose the admins keep them off the forum? Even if it required paid membership like PP, anyone could still make an account and pay the fee to see reviews mate

[11Bravo]

It’s a massive conflict of interest. I’ve seen this before and it always ends in tears. Just look at the drama over at Punter Planet over the years.

One bad AR or negative comment about service is all it takes.Or, there’s never an AR of the SW that is on the site that is bad because no one wants the backlash from her.

My comment not directed at any individual herself. Just the concept in general.

Ideally you want ARs to be private amongst members who pay for the service?

WTF!?! You're scared of a dissenting post? Here's one right here.

Conflict of interest? Guess this must be one of the bros vs those mentality.

Tears? From who? Crybabies? "Oh, she said something not nice... teacher, teacher..."

Backlash? Oh, I'm hiding in my closet, shaking in fear. (Actually, just checking my asbestos body suit. But here, AUS99, I know I'm not going to need, perhaps some MILD scorching, nowhere near a flame war). If you can't stand some warmth, NOT heat... what are you doing on the internet?

AR's private? I don't think you understand the concept of a public forum, readable by even non-members (OK, fine, they can't post to step on toes... but any member can). I don't whine when someone contradicts/complains/disagrees with any of my posts. Not even the TL/DR; THEIR loss. Myself, steel toe boots...

Myself, I have no problem standing by my posts, including this one. You disagree. Your right, no problem; like I said, multiple opinions.

Multiple opinions are what MAKE a forum. And I'd say a lot more critiques and shared info are passed in the breakroom or amongst work colleagues than any leaks seen here. Well, those "how old is she?" might raise some hackles...

[dewayne]

There is absolutely no way to keep a forum private from providers (or anyone else) for very long. Like if you think about the OP's post for more than 15 seconds you'll understand it.

Don't say anything you don't want getting back to providers, either good OR bad. Don't make a post you can't defend, be respectful as much as you can, but maintain your position as necessary.

The only reason we'd need a platform where providers can't see would be to trash them or talk shit. And that doesn't do anyone any good, whether you're a fellow punter, a provider, or a lurker.

[MindTheGap]

Surely fairness requires that they or their shop have the opportunity to respond.?

Try and join a sex worker forum. You’ll be frozen out and banned immediately they detect you.

[MindTheGap]

And how exactly do you propose the admins keep them off the forum? Even if it required paid membership like PP, anyone could still make an account and pay the fee to see reviews mate

The same way that men / punters are kept out of women’s only forums, sex worker forums, Reddit Sugarbabe forums. It’s called active moderation and senior members working with mods to keep the forum out of reach from those who shouldn’t be in it.

Travel around the world and use forums in the USA. Canada, UK. They all do it the same way as I explained above.

PP gives SWs open season on the forum. So no one ever writes a bad review as they get slammed and PP gets threatened with lawsuits. It’s just a bad idea letting SWs into a review forum. Always ends in tears.

[MindTheGap]

WTF!?! You're scared of a dissenting post? Here's one right here.

Conflict of interest? Guess this must be one of the bros vs those mentality.

Tears? From who? Crybabies? "Oh, she said something not nice... teacher, teacher..."

Backlash? Oh, I'm hiding in my closet, shaking in fear. (Actually, just checking my asbestos body suit. But here, AUS99, I know I'm not going to need, perhaps some MILD scorching, nowhere near a flame war). If you can't stand some warmth, NOT heat... what are you doing on the internet?

AR's private? I don't think you understand the concept of a public forum, readable by even non-members (OK, fine, they can't post to step on toes... but any member can). I don't whine when someone contradicts/complains/disagrees with any of my posts. Not even the TL/DR; THEIR loss. Myself, steel toe boots...

Myself, I have no problem standing by my posts, including this one. You disagree. Your right, no problem; like I said, multiple opinions.

Multiple opinions are what MAKE a forum. And I'd say a lot more critiques and shared info are passed in the breakroom or amongst work colleagues than any leaks seen here. Well, those "how old is she?" might raise some hackles...

You’re great at pouring scorn around.

Can you not see the risks, or just tone deaf?

[MindTheGap]

There is absolutely no way to keep a forum private from providers (or anyone else) for very long. Like if you think about the OP's post for more than 15 seconds you'll understand it.

Don't say anything you don't want getting back to providers, either good OR bad. Don't make a post you can't defend, be respectful as much as you can, but maintain your position as necessary.

The only reason we'd need a platform where providers can't see would be to trash them or talk shit. And that doesn't do anyone any good, whether you're a fellow punter, a provider, or a lurker.

I agree with you that it’s important to be respectful. You don’t want misogynistic behaviour on the forum.

Equally - what makes it valuable is the honesty in the ARs. How often do you read a bad one? Sometimes I can’t tell if the guys who write them are being paid to. I’ve heard of customers getting discounts at shops to write good reviews - what we really want is honesty so we can make an informed decision about how to spend the cash we worked hard to make?

The tighter the security, the more honest the reviews and the more comfortable punters are sharing as they know it won’t trickle back to the ladies themselves. All you need is one screaming banshee that has your phone number, or someone who loved you long time to read about you fucking others and before you know it they are contacting your wife on Facebook - it’s all just basic smart forum security.

[GoldfishMan]

Impossible to police. End of story.

Besides, "ends in tears"? Who's crying? It's all business. Would you cry if your shop wasn't doing well?

[neveragain]

The same way that men / punters are kept out of women’s only forums, sex worker forums, Reddit Sugarbabe forums. It’s called active moderation and senior members working with mods to keep the forum out of reach from those who shouldn’t be in it.

Travel around the world and use forums in the USA. Canada, UK. They all do it the same way as I explained above.

PP gives SWs open season on the forum. So no one ever writes a bad review as they get slammed and PP gets threatened with lawsuits. It’s just a bad idea letting SWs into a review forum. Always ends in tears.

Please tell me how non-sex workers are kept out of sex worker forums, and how men are kept out of women-only forums. Is it by the those admins confirming the real identity (photo ID) of all users before allowing access maybe? Is that something you would want here?

And even if that were the way it was done, sex workers could still get non-sex worker friends (male or female) to get access to the forum and then send them screenshots. It's impossible to enforce mate

[11Bravo]

You’re great at pouring scorn around.

Can you not see the risks, or just tone deaf?
Scorn? This is me being NICE because I do enjoy this forum and don't want to get banned. Internationally..., different vocabulary.

HOWEVER, just as in my AR's (more on that below), I ALWAYS call 'em like I see 'em.

Risks? Well, I guess you must be risk ADVERSE given your posting history. Yes, I did look, and damn, almost fell asleep while looking for AR's posted by you. But yes, I did find ONE, your initial post. Maybe, like me, you're TDY, and I am certainly more verbose, so to save ANYONE the trouble as I call, just check Find latest started threads in my profile by left clicking on my handle.
Those are only the threads I started, not the "add-ons" from MY experience with other AR's, so here's one of a number:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?135242-MILF-massage-with-possible-extras-in-the-city&p=3306443&viewfull=1#post3306443
And given my fondness of regulars (more on that below), while I used to post AR's on repeat visits, I don't anymore; they were just copy n pastes (why they're regulars).

So that's what I'm holding. Call.
MindTheGap,
WHERE'S THE BEEF?
Where are YOUR AR's that might lead to problems if seen by them?


... what we really want is honesty so we can make an informed decision about how to spend the cash we worked hard to make?

The tighter the security, the more honest the reviews and the more comfortable punters are sharing as they know it won’t trickle back to the ladies themselves. All you need is one screaming banshee that has your phone number, or someone who loved you long time to read about you fucking others and before you know it they are contacting your wife on Facebook - it’s all just basic smart forum security.
So where are your contributions to help others "make informed decisions on how to spend the cash we worked so hard to make"? You scared that your trickle might trickle back to the ladies themselves? I really don't think you have anything to worry about. Or are you just using the cone of silence for smart forum security?

As to your:

Never underestimate burning jealousy in a woman. 100x if she is an Asian woman
Have a lot of experience with Asians? I couldn't tell from your footprint. Myself, here, recent arrival, but internationally... I'm an easy search.

Given my fondness for regulars, as I posted elsewhere, cheap mobiles were a watershed in the punting game. I had no trouble with sharing my number, and now my app contact. My knees don't shake every time my phone buzzes. What I DO worry about, not the ladies, but some wannabee punter running his mouth in an inappropriate environment.

Tone deaf? Well, you got me there. I'm old, so that high frequency range has a lot of gaps. But not necessarily a bad thing: I don't hear the little whineys...

You're like that little boy up in his tree house, with the "No Gilrs (SIC) ALLOWED" sign at the top of the ladder. Up there with his other little boy mates, wanting to talk about all the girls, scared to death that one might hear and come up and beat your ass. So pull up the ladder, just in case there are some girls around...

No need to worry about me. I'm a BIG boy; I can take care of myself.

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To the PTB's (Powers That Be): not looking for a flame war, but I do disdain hypocrites... I LIKE a free forum and so see no need for membership restrictions based on job description. I'm not scared of hearing from the other side...

[blobfish2024]

Op is an Indian, end of the debate.

[Double_Adapter]

Interesting question with some equally interesting POVs.

By the same logic, when a chick says 'No Indian' that's essentially her version of an AR on a public platform ie critiquing her punter experiences in her own way. So in theory, we shouldn’t be discrediting their ARs.

[andrewv]

You guys take yourselves very seriously. You are not the fucking board of directors and rulers of punting. You are just blokes who fork out a few hundred dollars to get your rocks off.

Also, remember that the total number of all the men (and women) who have ever used this forum is probably less than 10% of all the customers who go to massage shops and brothels.

As for the comment above about "no Indians", I hate to say it but many non-Indian men find this attractive and go to see girls who don't let Indian men near them. It's a marketing advantage for the girls.

[crhaayn]

A lot of the reviews are in graphic detail (mine included) which can be at odds with those being reviewed. Over the years, I've had a few where a WL identified it was me, and on a repeat visit, they did confront me. One, the WL was upset, as in person, I'm reserved and respectful, but the details I spewed in my AR painted a picture of some horny pervert, which we all are. The shop read my review, and she was also told not to return to work at the shop because of my review, which wasn't bad, just not great. She was eventually called back, and she ended up taking on suggestions to improve. I apologised but explained the forum is a place for punters, and didn't remove my review. She accepted it, and we ended up maintaining a long WL/punter relationship. The others weren't upset, but did make a mention of it, and one did ask to edit out some details, as other punters ended up seeing her to try and get the same routine as she provided me. For context, she had great GFE, and was the type to be spontaneous in her service, and when punters expected the same and she didn't do it the same way as them, one of them revealed to her that he read it from this site.

That all said, this is a public forum, searchable on google. Good operators will use it and understand what we want, and provide feedback to the girls reviewed, as well as incorporate it in how they train their new girls.

[Louisa18ChardRoad]

*Wanders in thread, looks around… realises I took a wrong turn and shouldn’t be in here*

Ciao x

[Curious12]

Its like omegal. Its not like you can keep out old men jerking themselves off infront of minors...

[MindTheGap]

Its like omegal. Its not like you can keep out old men jerking themselves off infront of minors...

Plenty of those in here. Just look out for large fonts, writing in caps and italics and the attention seeking chest beating. It’s a dead giveaway.

[Double_Adapter]

Plenty of those in here. Just look out for large fonts, writing in caps and italics and the attention seeking chest beating. It’s a dead giveaway.

WhaT a load of FUCKEN "HorseShit" !!

[MindTheGap]

Please tell me how non-sex workers are kept out of sex worker forums, and how men are kept out of women-only forums. Is it by the those admins confirming the real identity (photo ID) of all users before allowing access maybe? Is that something you would want here?

And even if that were the way it was done, sex workers could still get non-sex worker friends (male or female) to get access to the forum and then send them screenshots. It's impossible to enforce mate

Explained to you above

Do it yourself - try and join any female only online forum - sex workers, Sugarbabes, Reddit, etc. I’ll be impressed if you get in the front door, even more so if you last a week.

[MindTheGap]

Op is an Indian, end of the debate.

I actually wouldn’t mind that - a decent tan at this time of year anyway.

[MindTheGap]

Interesting question with some equally interesting POVs.

By the same logic, when a chick says 'No Indian' that's essentially her version of an AR on a public platform ie critiquing her punter experiences in her own way. So in theory, we shouldn’t be discrediting their ARs.

I agree with that. She’s putting it on her own page. Does her page allow Indian men a right of reply?

[MindTheGap]

You guys take yourselves very seriously. You are not the fucking board of directors and rulers of punting. You are just blokes who fork out a few hundred dollars to get your rocks off.

Also, remember that the total number of all the men (and women) who have ever used this forum is probably less than 10% of all the customers who go to massage shops and brothels.

As for the comment above about "no Indians", I hate to say it but many non-Indian men find this attractive and go to see girls who don't let Indian men near them. It's a marketing advantage for the girls.

Too true on both counts.

I thought the 10% comment was interesting so thought I’d do some maths.

If I count right there’s about 100 ARs a month here. And a count of massage shops / providers in greater Sydney shows about 2,000 of those.

So assume 5 girls servicing 5 customers a day (low but reasonable) in each one. That’s 1.5m fucks, handjobs, blowjobs a month.

So the representative hobbyist / reviewing punter population one here is circa 0.006%

Small pond, but some MIGHTY BIG FISH looking in their own mirrors 😂

[MindTheGap]

WhaT a load of FUCKEN "HorseShit" !!

Exceptional work. Self awareness is a beautiful quality 😉

[Linza Giz]

I don't mind wl or ml reading reviews or posts here, it's a free forum after all but I think if it impacts the Intel being provided or the recewier being uncomfortable to provide say poor review because they are worried about a confrontation or a issue with shop or girl then it becomes a problem.

[GoldfishMan]

I'll say it again. It's not possible to police. This is an anonymous forum. Trolls come here all the time with all their alts and shit. Even OP is an alt of a previously banned troll.
Now you say you want to "ban" working girls from the site? FMD, if forum admin can really ban anyone they'd ban you first!

[MindTheGap]

I'll say it again. It's not possible to police. This is an anonymous forum. Trolls come here all the time with all their alts and shit. Even OP is an alt of a previously banned troll.
Now you say you want to "ban" working girls from the site? FMD, if forum admin can really ban anyone they'd ban you first!

Show me where I said “I want working girls to be banned” ?