Who are still punting here.

[PleadInsanity]

Besides “ED69”. Has everyone stopped punting or taking a long break. So few AR getting posted. Cost of living is biting hard.

[forgotmyumbrella]

I do, but it’s been a series of duds lately so I’ll refrain from mentioning any

[Icegodofhungary]

I’m punting regularly (probably more than I should) but I’ve cut back on posting reviews since some fuckwit accused me of taking payment or favours for reviews (I don’t) and telling girls I’m a reviewer to get better service (also dont). It takes some time and effort to write a decent review, not worth the hassle just to get accused of bullshit.

I’ve seen similar accusations recently against other ARs. Almost seems like if anyone posts a positive review for one of the less popular or less known shops people will come out of the woodwork to accuse them of being a shill.

I actually did post a new review a few days ago, but it quickly got bumped down to page 5 or something by the shops bumping their old reviews every couple of hours. I accept that’s legit and within the forum rules, and the shops essentially pay to keep this forum free for us punters, so it’s all good - but it does add an extra barrier for posting new ARs if you know the casual forum users never going to see or benefit from them before they get bumped into oblivion.

[Peter69]

Only really at my regular at Panja as moneys a little tighter these days so taking a risk isn’t a good idea for me, at least with my regular I know I’m going to be satisfied

[minimaleffort]

Besides “ED69”. Has everyone stopped punting or taking a long break. So few AR getting posted. Cost of living is biting hard.

You said it bro, cost of living is really creeping up, had been for a couple of RnT’s in the last few months but mostly with well-reviewed and known MLs.

[Mr Nice]

I have been punting hard but mostly regulars for the past month or at shops that prefer not to have a review. Agree with comments above re getting hassled got posting a review or thread. Good thing that a few of the biggest arseholes appear to have been banned.

Time to get back to ARs gentlemen

[MrPB]

I've noticed the slow down of reviews as well.

But I also have slowed right down in punting, and when I do, it's my regulars. I assume it's the same for many too.

The cost vs benefit of masturbating at home vs the time and cost to go out is surreal.

[Roydemeo]

Unspoken side effect of the cost of living crisis…everyone is back to doing their wives!

[blackm0nk]

I wouldn’t call my self a “punter”, more of a dabbler. My interest in seeking services really fluctuates but being on this forum, it really gets me enthusiastic and I just need to strike while the iron is hot otherwise it’s another few months before I feel the urge again lol. I can easily go years without the touch of another human and that’s something I want to change. I think Zozo Massage (for the rimming) is my next target though.

[yellow_sub]

I’m punting regularly (probably more than I should) but I’ve cut back on posting reviews since some fuckwit accused me of taking payment or favours for reviews (I don’t) and telling girls I’m a reviewer to get better service (also dont). It takes some time and effort to write a decent review, not worth the hassle just to get accused of bullshit.

I’ve seen similar accusations recently against other ARs. Almost seems like if anyone posts a positive review for one of the less popular or less known shops people will come out of the woodwork to accuse them of being a shill.

I actually did post a new review a few days ago, but it quickly got bumped down to page 5 or something by the shops bumping their old reviews every couple of hours. I accept that’s legit and within the forum rules, and the shops essentially pay to keep this forum free for us punters, so it’s all good - but it does add an extra barrier for posting new ARs if you know the casual forum users never going to see or benefit from them before they get bumped into oblivion.

Or posting something negative and get accused you are other shops owners.

[SlippinJimmy]

Writing reviews is a thankless task, if the reviewer isn't given any encouragement or thanks from the thousands that read the reviews, it easy just to think fuck it and not add anything

[Icegodofhungary]

Writing reviews is a thankless task, if the reviewer isn't given any encouragement or thanks from the thousands that read the reviews, it easy just to think fuck it and not add anything

True man.

On that note, shout out to ED69 in particular, his reviews are so good - and so frequent! I don’t know how the man finds the time (to punt that often OR write the reviews!)

[Veets]

I’ve cut back a lot and almost never revisit the same girl due to them drastically increasing their fee. In the 24 years of punting only a few are actually worthy of paying that extra.
The rest I can’t justify paying more for the same or less

[ironmonk]

I wouldn’t call my self a “punter”, more of a dabbler. My interest in seeking services really fluctuates but being on this forum, it really gets me enthusiastic and I just need to strike while the iron is hot otherwise it’s another few months before I feel the urge again lol. I can easily go years without the touch of another human and that’s something I want to change. I think Zozo Massage (for the rimming) is my next target though.

Months without an urge...that's true monkmode right there.

I too identify as a dabbler rather than a punter honestly. Only go to shops 1x a fortnight on average. Not sure why I browse this forum often, it's actually pretty hard to quit lol

[I_luv_doggie.]

Just very time poor at the moment.

[putsputs]

I mostly repeat popular long stay regulars, who already have a lot of ARs written about them. I occasionally write a comment here and there.

[Dave23]

Yep still punt once or twice a month seen a private on Monday night

[Wayne]

Writing reviews is a thankless task, if the reviewer isn't given any encouragement or thanks from the thousands that read the reviews, it easy just to think fuck it and not add anything

Agree. There is so little incentive to bother anymore. I would have posted a dozen reviews over the last year and don’t think any got any discussion. Really don’t know why I return to this website. Stockholm syndrome or something.

[dewayne]

Hard to want to write a thoughtful AR when the same 20 or 30 ARs just get bumped by the shops constantly

[schloong]

Yeah I agree with others. I'm still seeing my reg but not as regularly & really not worth "rinse & repeat" AR's.

My radar is still on 'tho & currently exploring some other joints...

[tkicks]

This site is more chat than review orientated. If you want reviews you have to use xxx or TNT and most same people won't tolerate the moderator nonsense associated with those sites

[Double_Adapter]

So if I understand this correctly

Glowing ARs
- Shop owner trying to drum up business
- Punter is a shill pocketing kickbacks and freebies from a shop

Negative ARs
- Competitor trying to undermine shop
- Butt hurt punter banned from a shop
- Chicks refused to service him (eg Indian, morbidly obese, etc)

Juicy Extras ARs
- Punter is lying or exaggerating
- Punter has blurred fantasy with reality
- Other punters pile on, questioning credibility of review

No Details ARs
- Filler review from a punter chasing 50 posts
- Review spawns endless questions and speculation
- Review is deemed bullshit

No ARs at all
- Punter is a sex forum parasite, leeching without contributing
- Punter is a selfish cunt keeping hidden gems to himself

Another words "you're fucked if you post an AR, and you're fucked if you don't"

[11Bravo]

It takes some time and effort to write a decent review, not worth the hassle just to get accused of bullshit.

I’ve seen similar accusations recently against other ARs. Almost seems like if anyone posts a positive review for one of the less popular or less known shops people will come out of the woodwork to accuse them of being a shill.

I actually did post a new review a few days ago, but it quickly got bumped down to page 5 or something by the shops bumping their old reviews every couple of hours. I accept that’s legit and within the forum rules, and the shops essentially pay to keep this forum free for us punters, so it’s all good - but it does add an extra barrier for posting new ARs if you know the casual forum users never going to see or benefit from them before they get bumped into oblivion.

Without a doubt; writing an AR (at least what I consider an AR, more than a couple of lines of "She's good, I enjoyed") takes time and effort. And for what?


Boo Birds
"BS, nobody can have that much fun. I went, she wasn't attractive. She gave me marginal service. Shill". "THOSE aren't a LARGE rack - by MY definition; liar." Negative AR's? No problem. But when you look at their "body of work"... questions, negative comments, but any good time AR's... MIA or, at best, sparse. So where are their good times? Too lazy to post? Gatekeeping? Or "Composition challenged" - can't string some sentences together to make a paragraph, a couple of paragraphs together to make an AR? Past-history, "I miss Sue, she was great, too bad she retired" doesn't count as a positive.


One-Way Streets
Comments and questions, so many questions. But NEVER any followup, payback, reciprocity.

After An AR
"How old is she? How tall? Weight? Shoe size? Left handed or right handed?" But never a subsequent AR describing their experience.


General
Too easy to take 10 seconds to post a question rather than RTFF, UTFSE, expecting the unpaid to answer.


Scammers
Posting one line comments, crud, to up their post count (even a thread for that). Then, nothing, or more crud comments, questions. Their contributions... a steaming pile of excrement? Nah, that's an exaggeration. More like a trail of diarrhea dribbles.


Lurkers
They exist on all free forums. But they do contribute, their visits up the visitor counts, increased advertising rates.


So why write AR's? Some lingering sense of gratitude for the help that the forum has provided.

HOWEVER, and you know there has to be a HOWEVER, if for no other reason than to dissuade the above with a TL/DR.
If you require AR's to punt, then all I can say is baa, baa, baa. Plenty of intel here, shop and roster threads, with photos (yea, I know all about photos). But it's a start. Does the shop have a website, WeChat, locanto? Photos, descriptions? Then, the only tried and true method: BOTG.

For the record: I understand about no repeat AR's for regulars. Would just be a copy and paste - why they're regulars.

Myself: Drydocked, getting the barnacles scraped off.

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For shop buried AR's on the AR thread, I use a solution given by another (sorry, forgot who). Use the "Sort Threads by Thread Start Time". Not a perfect solution, but it does help.

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Damn, a perfect synopsis by Double_Adapter. Guess it took me a couple of minutes too long in proofreading. SALUTE.

[ergoproxy]

I haven’t been, for a while now. Been quite busy for the last month and a half. I did book one today this arvo.

[Wayne]

So if I understand this correctly

Glowing ARs
- Shop owner trying to drum up business
- Punter is a shill pocketing kickbacks and freebies from a shop

Negative ARs
- Competitor trying to undermine shop
- Butt hurt punter banned from a shop
- Chicks refused to service him (eg Indian, morbidly obese, etc)

Juicy Extras ARs
- Punter is lying or exaggerating
- Punter has blurred fantasy with reality
- Other punters pile on, questioning credibility of review

No Details ARs
- Filler review from a punter chasing 50 posts
- Review spawns endless questions and speculation
- Review is deemed bullshit

No ARs at all
- Punter is a sex forum parasite, leeching without contributing
- Punter is a selfish cunt keeping hidden gems to himself

Another words "you're fucked if you post an AR, and you're fucked if you don't"

Not necessarily. I’ve been filing reviews here for over 15 years. I have always written my reviews in the hour or so after my session as a way of reliving the moment. It’s like “I just paid $X for a session, I want to get my money’s worth”. I’ve never written a review for or against a shop. The fact is that most of my interactions with working girls have been positive. So I tend to write glowing reviews. Even when I’ve had a dud punt I find a reason for it and explain. I never blame the working girl. I think mostly because they are getting the rough end of a business pineapple: selling your body really is the pits! Dud punts are never the girl’s fault. It’s mostly the brothel owner’s greed and poor management.

[11Bravo]

Not necessarily. I’ve been filing reviews here for over 15 years. I have always written my reviews in the hour or so after my session as a way of reliving the moment. It’s like “I just paid $X for a session, I want to get my money’s worth”. I’ve never written a review for or against a shop. The fact is that most of my interactions with working girls have been positive. So I tend to write glowing reviews. Even when I’ve had a dud punt I find a reason for it and explain. I never blame the working girl. I think mostly because they are getting the rough end of a business pineapple: selling your body really is the pits! Dud punts are never the girl’s fault. It’s mostly the brothel owner’s greed and poor management.

Good insight, good attitude. IME, your attitude is a great predictor of the experience you'll have. Good attitude, she'll have the same. Disappointed attitude, the "Well, if I HAVE to", will also be mirrored. On meeting, if she doesn't meet my expectations, I can bail, or, much more often, I'll look for something that I do find attractive and go with that. I'm there to enjoy; she's there to make money; more often than not, both of us satisfied. I do understand YMMV, and it's up to her on what she'll provide to me in an RnT. If it's not what I'm hoping for, hopefully, we can reach an agreement on some level of service and price that's agreeable to both.

I will slightly disagree. I've certainly had a few that were bad punts, on her. Most likely a BFL turning a LT, with an insistence of pay before, into a ST. Simple "always pay AFTER" lesson, forgotten due to complacency, relearned. That fact is simply reported in the FR.

As I've often said, regardless, bottom line, I'll KNOW what HER experience is like for ME. For most I'll post an initial AR, but not all. Given it's my time and coin, up to me.

[Wayne]

I will slightly disagree. I've certainly had a few that were bad punts, on her. Most likely a BFL turning a LT, with an insistence of pay before, into a ST. Simple "always pay AFTER" lesson, forgotten due to complacency, relearned. That fact is simply reported in the FR.

You’re right about the tricks some girls use to get extra money out of you. But I’d say that is down to bad management practice. Well managed knocking houses incorporate that into their work culture. For example, the best run brothel in Sydney lists the specific services the girls offer. If the customer wants extras then the girl, if she is willing, is instructed to provide it then accompany the customer to the desk afterward to pay. The girl gets the money for the extra - the shop doesn’t even get a cut. It means everything is clear and there is no sense of being tricked. It’s all about service.

[11Bravo]

YouÂ’re right about the tricks some girls use to get extra money out of you. But IÂ’d say that is down to bad management practice. Well managed knocking houses incorporate that into their work culture. For example, the best run brothel in Sydney lists the specific services the girls offer. If the customer wants extras then the girl, if she is willing, is instructed to provide it then accompany the customer to the desk afterward to pay. The girl gets the money for the extra - the shop doesnÂ’t even get a cut. It means everything is clear and there is no sense of being tricked. ItÂ’s all about service.

Respect. My example of MY bad punts was offshore, bar freelancers, where they are INDEPENDENT contractors, paid directly. Yes, you do have to negotiate EVERYTHING, menu, price, number of shots, time of departure, but since it's a MUTUAL job interview, gives you time to really gauge her attitude towards you. You want a lineup? Bar full of potential. Since nobody's wearing name tags or numbers, FR's don't bother with names, it's venues, up to you to go see. Truth is, I couldn't come up with an example here.

In SYD, I'll agree. One shop, I don't speak the language, but clear the mamasan was telling the provider to hurry up and finish as there was another batter on deck. We were finished, and, to her credit, the provider asked if she could leave 10 minutes early. She was a regular, no problem. Provider did return the favor on my next visit. Another shop, a punter came in at the quarter hour, demanding to see a specific girl for an hour. Mamasan told him he could have 45, she had a booking top of the hour. He demanded, or he would leave. "Sorry, please try another time". Respect. So yes, management plays a big part here.

Maybe it's the harbor, but easy sailing in SYD, IMO. YMMV :cool2:

[Icegodofhungary]

Not necessarily. I’ve been filing reviews here for over 15 years. I have always written my reviews in the hour or so after my session as a way of reliving the moment. It’s like “I just paid $X for a session, I want to get my money’s worth”. I’ve never written a review for or against a shop. The fact is that most of my interactions with working girls have been positive. So I tend to write glowing reviews. Even when I’ve had a dud punt I find a reason for it and explain. I never blame the working girl. I think mostly because they are getting the rough end of a business pineapple: selling your body really is the pits! Dud punts are never the girl’s fault. It’s mostly the brothel owner’s greed and poor management.

Great attitude and great reason to write reviews. After a while even a lot of the good punts start to blur together or be forgotten. If I jot down some notes afterwards - even if not detailed enough for a proper AR - a later re-read can jog my memory of a good punt or girl. I generally don’t keep any notes on the bad ones; even if I later cant recall the exact details I tend to remember if I don’t want to see a particular girl again.

[Icegodofhungary]

Three punts so far this week; will be four if tonight’s planned works out. Two with widely reported on regulars; one another regular I’ve previously written an AR on - so no need for another AR on either of them. Tonight will be a repeat if I can get the timing to work, otherwise may take a chance on a first day, ‘first time in Syd’ girl.

If so, and if the experience is ok or good I may write an AR. If it’s bad, maybe not. I try to keep in mind a girl’s experience, and that if it’s not a great punt for me it may be due to lack of experience on her part, or her not liking something about me - I wouldn’t want to risk curtailing her future earnings via a bad review for reasons outside her control or that might be purely circumstantial. Although I may be attributing too much weight to my own words there.

[Double_Adapter]

The Magic Ratio

How many positive/good punts does it take to outweigh the psychological effects of a single negative/bad punt?

A ton of research suggests the magic ratio is 5:1
Meaning it takes at least five good experiences to neutralize the effects of just one bad experience.

This principle lines up with why most seasoned punters have a go-to regular.

[11Bravo]

Meaning it takes at least five good experiences to neutralize the effects of just one bad experience.
This principle lines up with why most seasoned punters have a go to regular.
5/1 ratio? For me, that 1 has no effect. Sure, hitting a homerun due to a "softball" pitch from a regular is fun, but always? You read an interesting AR, see an interesting roster photo... Sometimes you gotta step up to the plate when lady-luck is throwing hardballs. Sure, you can strikeout, but the possibility of a hit... too enticing. A "disappointing" experience, the realty not matching my fantasy... no problem, now I know. Next. Now, a BAD punt, a beanball, getting shit on... that might take some TLC recovery.


Great attitude and great reason to write reviews. After a while even a lot of the good punts start to blur together or be forgotten. If I jot down some notes afterwards - even if not detailed enough for a proper AR - a later re-read can jog my memory of a good punt or girl. I generally don’t keep any notes on the bad ones; even if I later cant recall the exact details I tend to remember if I don’t want to see a particular girl again.
Good point. Sometimes when I'm bored, I'll take a look at some previous decade's FR's. Given I'm a bit verbose... they can be some fun reads, bringing back some great memories.

[massage addict]

I’m punting regularly (probably more than I should) but I’ve cut back on posting reviews since some fuckwit accused me of taking payment or favours for reviews (I don’t) and telling girls I’m a reviewer to get better service (also dont). It takes some time and effort to write a decent review, not worth the hassle just to get accused of bullshit.

I’ve seen similar accusations recently against other ARs. Almost seems like if anyone posts a positive review for one of the less popular or less known shops people will come out of the woodwork to accuse them of being a shill.

I actually did post a new review a few days ago, but it quickly got bumped down to page 5 or something by the shops bumping their old reviews every couple of hours. I accept that’s legit and within the forum rules, and the shops essentially pay to keep this forum free for us punters, so it’s all good - but it does add an extra barrier for posting new ARs if you know the casual forum users never going to see or benefit from them before they get bumped into oblivion.

Thats why 99% of my reviews go in the private section. Oops i only just posted one in the public section. :surprise:

[urmumsurdad]

I’ve punted every day for the past two weeks from $170 to $330 in price. Kill me now 🥲 I’ve got a session in a few mins 🙃

[Shitsyeah]

I’ve punted every day for the past two weeks from $170 to $330 in price. Kill me now 🥲 I’ve got a session in a few mins 🙃

Care to write some reviews on any of your recent Punts. Cheers

[urmumsurdad]

Care to write some reviews on any of your recent Punts. Cheers

Yeah, I should. I’ll write them up tonight, the ones I clearly recall.

[RodgHerMoore]

Writing reviews is a thankless task, if the reviewer isn't given any encouragement or thanks from the thousands that read the reviews, it easy just to think fuck it and not add anything

Yeah I'm getting that way too. Also saying regulars there's no point re-posting.

Also if the punt is a dud I usually don't post as it's YMMV unless it's an absolute terrible punt or i think a girl has been talked up too much.

I rather keep it positive and report the good ones who deserve repeat business.

Also for smaller or newer shops that don't advertise i post in the private section in case they don't want the publicity.

[11Bravo]

Thats why 99% of my reviews go in the private section. Oops i only just posted one in the public section. :surprise:


Also for smaller or newer shops that don't advertise i post in the private section in case they don't want the publicity.
While the private section shields posts from non-member lurkers, it's all too easy to game the system and gain entry. DM's with known members have an increasing allure.