No TT no extras

[Steve03]

This week has been one of the worst in terms on punting: a ne at joyful (Lily) and another at Golden Time (Jessie).

Both times the ML showed no interest or enthusiasm in their service. Only saving grace was Jessie’s massage was awesome.

Both times there was no TT, the only indication of extras were in n the flip. A very direct question - ‘so what would you like?’. The response ‘a fucking massage’.

Joyful had been woeful since Jane’s departure. Not sure what has happened with to Sasa who was good.

Never going g back again to both places.

Sorry punters for the rant. Just annoyed, that’s it!!

[JJBeck]

Agree, Joyfull is not Joyfull since Jane left

Golden Time confirmed that Jessie only massage, no extras

[Steve03]

She did offer NHJ but was not until the flip, so I refused. Just like punters walk off B&S, rhey should refuse extras if the ML doesn’t show any interest - well thats my honest opinion at least

[harry444]

For me, TT is a very important part of the experience. I've mentioned in another thread that I go to Daily mostly now. Always plenty of TT there. I suppose that they know by now that I end up paying a lot more. But I can see the problem if a girl gives lots of TT, which is basically a free sex service, then the guy opts for no extras. Probably wouldn't get that treatment on the first visit.

[thunder545454]

She did offer NHJ but was not until the flip, so I refused. Just like punters walk off B&S, rhey should refuse extras if the ML doesn’t show any interest - well thats my honest opinion at least

What do you mean by show interest? she asked you what you wanted is that not showing interest?

If I go see a girl 3 times, by the third time she doesn't need to ask anymore she knows what I am after.

Don't be so sensitive, some guys only want a massage and some guys try to grope a girl to death with no intention of paying for extras.

Once they get to know you they will treat you better as they want you to come back, but first time meeting to them your just a random dude you expecting too much, they encounter all kinds of people they don't know you yet.

Ive had a session with a girl who was pretty stand offish first time I went very wary girl even made me pay first, but she was hot so I went back again, next time I went in she took me by the hand led me to a room closed the door and french kissed me, we had many great sessions together, I even would tease her about do I need to pay first today, she said she just worries cause she has had guys run off without paying her before, why cause she didn't know me yet.... give them a chance.

[Steve03]

Sorry didn’t mean to be emotional or anything.

When the WL asks you questions like have you been here before? Was she (referring to the girl I saw before at the shop) was good? I feel it’s them finding a way in to know the customer. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Now to paying upfront pay, I have been asked that many times especially if the WL is seeing me for the first time - completely understand there are dick heads out there that run out after getting what they want. So happy to pay upfront, but still there has to be some indication of something happening.

Sorry that is just my expectation.

[VFlowers]

This week has been one of the worst in terms on punting: a ne at joyful (Lily) and another at Golden Time (Jessie).

Both times the ML showed no interest or enthusiasm in their service. Only saving grace was Jessie’s massage was awesome.

Both times there was no TT, the only indication of extras were in n the flip. A very direct question - ‘so what would you like?’. The response ‘a fucking massage’.

Joyful had been woeful since Jane’s departure. Not sure what has happened with to Sasa who was good.

Never going g back again to both places.

Sorry punters for the rant. Just annoyed, that’s it!!

And, have you communicated the reason for your unhappiness and your not going for extras to the MLs / shops?
In this new QLD era of legal and unregulated sex work, more and more providers end up in this business to make a quick buck, the shop owners are more than happy to fill their rosters, but you know.........'training in one day'....nobody is telling these largely inexperienced girls what customers are looking for.
And we customers are all different with different expectations, too. Some don't want to waste time with a massage, or have a bit of it after the action, some expect a proper massage, some regard the massage part as some sort of foreplay etc.
Now that there are no legal repercussions anymore, we all, customers, MLs, and shops need to learn how to communicate better.

As I understand it, Herps has sold his shop and retired from the industry. With all his experience, maybe he could use his retirement to create some sort of interactive online course for MLs with plenty of video material..... ;)
And maybe one for customers, too.

[JJBeck]

Happy for the girls to train on me

[Steve03]

And, have you communicated the reason for your unhappiness and your not going for extras to the MLs / shops?
In this new QLD era of legal and unregulated sex work, more and more providers end up in this business to make a quick buck, the shop owners are more than happy to fill their rosters, but you know.........'training in one day'....nobody is telling these largely inexperienced girls what customers are looking for.
And we customers are all different with different expectations, too. Some don't want to waste time with a massage, or have a bit of it after the action, some expect a proper massage, some regard the massage part as some sort of foreplay etc.
Now that there are no legal repercussions anymore, we all, customers, MLs, and shops need to learn how to communicate better.

As I understand it, Herps has sold his shop and retired from the industry. With all his experience, maybe he could use his retirement to create some sort of interactive online course for MLs with plenty of video material..... ;)
And maybe one for customers, too.

I did at Joyful - been a long term customer and have a good rapport with Skye. Not at the other one as I don’t know the owner

[HughJorgan]

This week has been one of the worst in terms on punting: a ne at joyful (Lily) and another at Golden Time (Jessie).

Both times the ML showed no interest or enthusiasm in their service. Only saving grace was Jessie’s massage was awesome.

Both times there was no TT, the only indication of extras were in n the flip. A very direct question - ‘so what would you like?’. The response ‘a fucking massage’.

Joyful had been woeful since Jane’s departure. Not sure what has happened with to Sasa who was good.

Never going g back again to both places.

Sorry punters for the rant. Just annoyed, that’s it!!

I heartily agree with you and did manage to find a lady who does it the way I like out at Smile Thai Massage near the bridge in Clontarf. The massage was excellent and the clothed hj very pleasant, I think her name is Gypsy but my hearing is bad so could be wrong. She's just average to look at (40 ish) but a very happy person who really puts an effort into everything she does.

[COOLBRI]

The main problem with Joyful is 100 per hour and No shower. Ridiculous.
Legends! lets do not encourage this high price shops.