Punting any good for learning sex?

[NoAIr]

Hi all,

Haven't started on my punting journey but have been thinking about it for some time.

A bit of background:
Asian M 20s
I've had one previous ex partner so have a few basics down but definitely nothing substantial especially since they claimed to be asexual.
Apart from this, I haven't had any other sexual partners.

In light of the above, I have a couple questions for any kind soul willing to answer (even if just some)
-Is there a good place (or people) to learn the ropes for sex so I can please any future partners that come along? Massage or FS?
-How risky is punting in general especially for someone who hasn't had the HPV vaccine? I would assume covered is probably safe apart from herpes but how risky is DATY/BBBJ?
-How accommodating are WL to new punters and any recommendations?
-Would you ever tell a future partner about your adventures? Do you tell your friends?
-How addicting is punting?

So far I've had a read of one of the guides to massage parlours in the FAQ and lurked around the forum for a bit for some info.

Otherwise, thank you all for your time reading and for any newbie advice :)
Happy punting!

[bistro]

Hi all,

Haven't started on my punting journey but have been thinking about it for some time.

A bit of background:
Asian M 20s
I've had one previous ex partner so have a few basics down but definitely nothing substantial especially since they claimed to be asexual.
Apart from this, I haven't had any other sexual partners.

In light of the above, I have a couple questions for any kind soul willing to answer (even if just some)
-Is there a good place (or people) to learn the ropes for sex so I can please any future partners that come along? Massage or FS?
-How risky is punting in general especially for someone who hasn't had the HPV vaccine? I would assume covered is probably safe apart from herpes but how risky is DATY/BBBJ?
-How accommodating are WL to new punters and any recommendations?
-Would you ever tell a future partner about your adventures? Do you tell your friends?
-How addicting is punting?

So far I've had a read of one of the guides to massage parlours in the FAQ and lurked around the forum for a bit for some info.

Otherwise, thank you all for your time reading and for any newbie advice :)
Happy punting!

Its a weird question, and its a hard one to answer...

Most people will go to brothel to have sex to release the urge, especially when they are younger like you....rather than learning how to have sex.

If you really want to learn, when you first time to go brothel, ask the receptionist to show you the girl with good service only, usually they will lead you along the way... do this for like 50 times, then you basically know what to do in there and then you can pick whoever you like from their appearance whichever part you like... face, boobs, waist or butt...

Girls like men who takes charge in bed, so when u r comfortable in having sex, you can pick whoever u like and make a move in bed... once u can do this, when u have a new gf, your body will instinctively know how to make a move on women in bed that they cant even resist you anymore..... but yeah, as i said, it will take time, was about to said 100 times with good service ladies, but maybe u can do it less than all of us and do it in 50, because u seem eager to learn.


Dont worry about getting caught by HPV when you do BBBJ or DATY, otherwise u will go softie for overthinking

Find a doctor far away from your place that u can trust to have your blood test regularly, tell them you are young and sexually active and have few different sexual partners... its how to say it professionally without getting ashamed, plus they have antibiotics for it these days so you wont die from it...

Have fun young man....

[fixatedperson]

Yes and no.

Brothels might allow you to learn the mechanics of sex. They won't teach you how to please a partner who is genuinely attracted to you.

Sex with a WL is a business transaction. With a few exceptions, most WLs do not enjoy sex with punters. Their expressions are mostly fake.

Having sex with WLs could create false expectations for how sex would be like in a relationship.

There are also WLs with bad attitudes (most of them in my opinion) who react to punters with negative emotions like impatience, disgust or contempt which could create more insecurities for you.

[Danny801]

Yes and no.

Brothels might allow you to learn the mechanics of sex. They won't teach you how to please a partner who is genuinely attracted to you.

Sex with a WL is a business transaction. With a few exceptions, most WLs do not enjoy sex with punters. Their expressions are mostly fake.

Having sex with WLs could create false expectations for how sex would be like in a relationship.

There are also WLs with bad attitudes (most of them in my opinion) who react to punters with negative emotions like impatience, disgust or contempt which could create more insecurities for you.

Wow interesting thread. Thanks OP for starting.

Q for FP - do you have experience with ML, and if so would what you wrote above apply to ML / massage shops ?

I ask as theres this common notion that ML do not and are not forced to provide all the same services to a punter unlike when you goto FS shop and you pick a diamond or standRd service etc . Tia.

[Danny801]

Re. How addictive- i would stay very for a young man with high T and waking up with wood everyday!!
I started 10 years ago with the idea i would only do it for a year or so to build up some experiences and sample diff cultures and quickly it gets into a mindset you will just do 1 more. And that 1 more keeps on going!!
Admittedly with age I have slowed down , but in my early years I was going 3 a week to MS / private Asians with a budget of $400 a week.

[RandyHandsome]

Agree with above, probably good for learning mechanics but there'll still be a gap. It'll also set your expectations really high as MLs and WLs have this at their job and are very good at it.

I'm sure you could find some mamasans that will put you with someone a bit kinder. Maybe a 90 minute session to go through it all?

[Dave23]

the more you go the more confident you will become and just figure things out as you go.

[11Bravo]

My short answer is don't. Once you cross that line, it becomes easier and easier. And without IRL experiences, you lose track of what's real and what's artificial.

Long answer:
I agree with fixatedperson; it's just business (true for both WL and ML's, brothel and massage shop).

Yes and no.

Brothels might allow you to learn the mechanics of sex. They won't teach you how to please a partner who is genuinely attracted to you.

Sex with a WL is a business transaction. With a few exceptions, most WLs do not enjoy sex with punters. Their expressions are mostly fake.

Having sex with WLs could create false expectations for how sex would be like in a relationship.

There are also WLs with bad attitudes (most of them in my opinion) who react to punters with negative emotions like impatience, disgust or contempt which could create more insecurities for you.



1. Whatever techniques you learn won't be worth the price paid. Better to take the money and use to date where you can have some real fun getting an education. Technique is something, all this male "they want you taking control, leading the way"; yea... But IRL, I'd concentrate on making her feel relaxed, let her be herself, having fun, so she can enjoy. There you have time; you're not on the clock (if you are, time for a reality check). Everything else will just follow. And she not having to worry about damaging a fragile male ego. Being able to laugh at yourself goes a long way in life.

2. Providers are actresses. Will you be sure she's giving you honest advice, the "yea, do that, that's the way, oh yeah baby" (aka FOAM) rather than the "yea, sure, but I was thinking about what I needed to pick up at the market on the way home after work"? Trouble with Ozland is the minutemen mentality; there's no LT, as in all night. Everything is timed rather than having hours to relax and enjoy. And, unlike LT, where you are THE client for the whole working shift (even if she might have had a ST before you pulled her), LT... YOU are IT for that working shift night. Locally, it's not just your session. She might have already been "enjoying" others before you, and she's probably thinking about what will happen the remainder of her shift, will she have clients; if so, she better have energy to satisfy them...

3. Unless you have a well-grounded foundation for REAL sex and responses, some get misled by their prowess... Gee, those providers respond so well, so quickly... these IRL partners... they must be frigid. All too easy to go the easy way once you've crossed the line.

4. Don't tell any IRL partner about your exploits. Oh, she might be understanding, but... you know, you've been there once, who's to say you won't go again... They will remember.

But since you won't heed the above, maybe never even reaching here, as an alternative, I'd say rather than some SYT, pick an experienced mature provider who you can trust. I have no personal experience, but I'd say the provider who posts here, Louisa18ChardRoad, would be an excellent choice. Contact her (it'll take a few more posts to enable DM capabilities for you), or ask direct. Tell her what you want and why. I'd think that she would be a good instructor, honest, informed, rather than BSing.
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?95363-Hi-I%92m-Louisa-from-18-Chard-Road-and-58-(Taylor%92s-Lidcombe)-Ask-me-anything!&p=3624991&viewfull=1#post3624991

To see what she's posted, look at the vetting section in the How to Search here:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=2805733&viewfull=1#post2805733

Bonus? Learning how to seach helps find what you're interested in here.

[AJJ]

Practice makes perfect 👌 👍

[ironmonk]

Good to learn which hole is which

[dewayne]

Don't punt until you're older. Punting sex, even at its best, is very different from rolling around in bed with a real gf for a weekend.

Don't poison the reward centers of your brain with the shortcut saying $$ = pussy. If you punt too much too young you might subconsciously compare every genuine sexual encounter with a dollar amount. And this could lead to objectification of your partners.

Wait until you're older, until you've had your heart broken a few times, until you've had some ups and downs.

You're not going to learn anything amazing from punting this early. You're not missing anything, it'll be there when you're ready.

[NoAIr]

Hey everyone!

Thanks a lot for the insights and really interesting to see how different everyone's views are!
Special shoutout to Bistro and Bravo for your comprehensive responses.
Truth is that because there was a few days delay between this post being made and it going up I ended up going over the weekend to try it out because I couldn't resist.

In light of that, I was thinking of writing a little on my experience to see what my fellow punters think of it overall +/- if it was a normal experience. Also, I think it would be interesting to compare how other people's first times were and what y'all thought of potential next steps (if any).
I've also written it just as a general recount for all the curious perverts out there.

Expectations before going:
-I expected that it wouldn't be as intimate as time with your partner especially since it would be my first time meeting the WL. However, I did believe that I would be put relatively at ease and was expecting friendly service just by the nature of the job. I was also expecting some level of establishing intimacy before the sex. Also note I've been spoiled by VR for years before this with lots of eye contact with beautiful JAV ladies.
-I was hoping to be lead through the process given that it was my first time seeking sexual services and expected that the WLs would likely have faced this scenario before.
-I expected the WL to be good at the act of sex just as a byproduct of experience. I also hoped to learn a bit more about how to optimally have sex in general from a physical mechanics standpoint.
-I hoped to have a big jaw drop moment on seeing the WL because let's face it a lot of them photos are just smoking hot and Asians are definitely up my alley being an Asian myself. I knew the photos are photoshopped but monkey brain likes to dream.
-I was rather apprehensive about going to the brothel - it felt almost like I was trying to break through some kind of invisible mental barrier just by the label alone and what this might mean for myself.
-I was rather apprehensive about STI transmission and at this time had decided not to engage in DFK or DATY. I was somewhat hesitant about BBBJ but decided that if it happened, it happened.
-I was excited about going! It felt.. like I was doing something naughty and that feeling did not feel very bad at all :)

The experience:
Cost - 270 (arvo discount). For this 'review' I won't disclose where I went and which WL I saw.

I think I had already made a decision to trial a WL the night before, and think I spent most of the night... hard and expectant.
Come morning, I fumbled around on a few websites looking and thirsty over a few different ladies for a few hours before summoning up the courage to add two places on Wechat and asking for recommendations.

The criteria I gave the places were: I'm a first timer, seeking someone who speaks English and has nice breasts.

The services were remarkably responsive and I got responses within a few minutes for both which was very encouraging. Both recommended a number of ladies (primarily Japanese) and I spent another hour or two procrastinating about who to pick (man's an indecisive bitch). Eventually, I opted to go for a WL I thought would be a safe bet after reading whatever reviews were available on the forum. I was given a timeslot but advised there wasn't an ATM available. Getting the money took some time so I was in quite a rush to get to the place on time which I don't think helped the anxiety/excitement in getting there.

On arriving, the place looked a little bit like a warehouse from the outside and had a heavy metal door out the front which I think gave me a little bit of a weird vibe. However, it was fairly clear it was the place I was looking for from the big neon sign out the front. I buzzed in and was greeted by a mamasan who confirmed my appointment and accepted my payment before walking off to advise the WL. The place in itself wasn't particularly remarkable, was fairly quiet and looked pretty normal with a couch for patrons to wait on (not sure what I was expecting). No other patrons were there at this time (makes sense because it was early arvo on Saturday) but I did catch a glimpse of a slightly overweight patron leaving the place who sounded like he had enjoyed his experience.

After a few minutes, I was greeted by the WL who appeared somewhat shy with moderately weak smile. No physical contact was had at this stage. I was led up a flight up stairs, past a small room with beds where a number of other girls were hanging out, and into the room where the action was to take place. The lighting was a dim, reddish/purple colour which honestly made it difficult to see very well. I was advised to take my clothes off and left them on a chair the WL pointed to. The WL also proceeded to strip as if it were business as usual and advised me 'shower'. She was of average (Asian) build, definitely with a little more weight than her photos with a pair of ?C enhanced breasts. There, I was given some mouthwash and she gave my buddy a bit of wash as well as I suspected inspected it for any concerning features. I tried to strike up some small talk but her English wasn't the best and it was definitely a little awkward. I asked her if I could touch her body, to which she said yes but clearly my touches were tentative at best (a common theme with a lot of my touching due to uncertainty).

She then asked me to lay down on the bed and gave me some brief light kisses before moving down the rest of my body toward my member. I would say that her BBBJ was probably good but I definitely wasn't yet in the mood since so far it'd been quiet, awkward and I knew nothing about her except her working name. As such, I went soft a few times but with some coaxing, she was able to get him to stand up. She put on a dom and attempted cowgirl but before long it went soft again. Likely this was because I felt that things were definitely... mechanical as opposed to the passionate experience I had been expecting (however magically this was supposed to happen) and when looking at her face, I felt she had the expression of a person who felt chronically low but had come to terms with her existence (almost like you would see with a tired, middle aged salaryman who doesn't like his job and has little going for him for some time but sticks with it as he has no choice). The idea of continuing to have sex with someone who looked tired/low was (and generally is) unappealing to me and I asked her if everything was okay, to which she replied that she always looked that way.

Because verbal communication was likely going to be a challenge, I asked her to take a break and wondered if some light foreplay might improve her mood. She mentioned that she liked DATY and so after some kissing (we went DFK anyway), I decided to DATY despite the potential risks I had considered before. While she let some moans out from time to time and seemed to make some motions indicating that she was getting close, it was clear from my experience with my previous partner that this was in fact not the case and I eventually abandoned the project, being internally plagued by the idea that it would make sense that meeting a stranger for the first time with some previous awkward interactions likely wouldn't offer the safe space to feel comfortable enough to have an orgasm anyway. Her nipples did get hard though which was some encouragement at least.

I had some more mouthwash, lay by her for a little time and tried to chat a little more, opting to touch her body and face which I think helped perk my member up. This eventually culminated in some missionary, doggy and cowgirl which I could tell she put quite some effort into. I did notice that during all of these, she avoided eye contact which I think stripped any significant kind of connection (or attempt at convincing myself there was a connection). I did, however, get a nice view of her nice breasts and got to have a little fun with them (natural breasts are definitely much more fun and soft though). Because I never did doggy with my previous partner, I definitely got an appreciation that it was mechanically much easier to have sex this way and holding onto her hips and ass was nice. I was eventually able to finish in missionary but definitely had to let my mind wander a bit.

Afterward, we lay on the bed side by side (not cuddling. It definitely felt strange not engaging in aftercare but I didn't feel comfortable asking her to cuddle as I wanted to respect her default choice) where I learned a bit about the difficult circumstances under which she came to work at the brothel. Understandably, it was very much a job for her but she had come to terms with working in the industry because it was good money for someone with 'limited skills' (her words) which I tried to debate but found difficult due to the language barrier. Finally, I had a small solo shower and was escorted from the room before she said goodbye (no hug or anything though).


Thoughts on leaving/later:
-I think that the experience was definitely different to what I expected and did not 'magically' create a sense of connection I was hoping for. It definitely felt like a hollow shell of the sex that you would have with a real partner even if the act/mechanics of the sex are superior. It ultimately felt a little like sophisticated masturbation. The nerves and general lack of knowledge about what is expected of me/I can do definitely didn't help though.
-I also think that the expectation of establishing an amazing connection straight away is likely a bit of a far fetched dream and is simply not realistic and might require repeat visits. I do feel that if I were to have a connection with a WL and saw them a few times, it might be a little dangerous for my heart (and wallet) though.
-I got a better appreciation for the people in the industry - I don't think I had any significant preconceptions that they would all be super sex loving but definitely confirmed my initial thoughts that generally, it's just normal people working at a job
-I, in fact, did learn a little bit about how to have sex! - mostly doggy and how cowgirl could be performed by someone with experience. I also learned how important eye contact was for me.
-Almost 300 dollars for an hour was quite a lot of money but I was not particularly perturbed by this because it was worth trying regardless and it's not every day that I get to have an attractive lady to myself
-On later reflection, I think that if I went in with a different set of expectations ie. to have fun and enjoy the experience, the experience would likely have been much more positive.
-I wonder if the experience would have been different had I asked for something different eg. GFE but that leads me to my next point
-I wonder if I need practice with suspension of disbelief and also just need to let go of overanalysing the whole interaction to better enjoy the experience
-I'm almost certain that now I have some idea of what the process entails, future visits might go a little more smoothly. I sure wish that each worker had a list of things they would consent to though eg. when am I allowed to touch etc.

Here's praying I didn't catch anything.
Right now, I'm a little on the fence as to whether to try again.
Was it a dud punt? Tell me about your thoughts and experiences and happy for any reccs :)
And the killer question: would you say punting is for me?

Also yikes this took an hour to write.

[Linza Giz]

Hey everyone!

Thanks a lot for the insights and really interesting to see how different everyone's views are!
Special shoutout to Bistro and Bravo for your comprehensive responses.
Truth is that because there was a few days delay between this post being made and it going up I ended up going over the weekend to try it out because I couldn't resist.

In light of that, I was thinking of writing a little on my experience to see what my fellow punters think of it overall +/- if it was a normal experience. Also, I think it would be interesting to compare how other people's first times were and what y'all thought of potential next steps (if any).
I've also written it just as a general recount for all the curious perverts out there.

Expectations before going:
-I expected that it wouldn't be as intimate as time with your partner especially since it would be my first time meeting the WL. However, I did believe that I would be put relatively at ease and was expecting friendly service just by the nature of the job. I was also expecting some level of establishing intimacy before the sex. Also note I've been spoiled by VR for years before this with lots of eye contact with beautiful JAV ladies.
-I was hoping to be lead through the process given that it was my first time seeking sexual services and expected that the WLs would likely have faced this scenario before.
-I expected the WL to be good at the act of sex just as a byproduct of experience. I also hoped to learn a bit more about how to optimally have sex in general from a physical mechanics standpoint.
-I hoped to have a big jaw drop moment on seeing the WL because let's face it a lot of them photos are just smoking hot and Asians are definitely up my alley being an Asian myself. I knew the photos are photoshopped but monkey brain likes to dream.
-I was rather apprehensive about going to the brothel - it felt almost like I was trying to break through some kind of invisible mental barrier just by the label alone and what this might mean for myself.
-I was rather apprehensive about STI transmission and at this time had decided not to engage in DFK or DATY. I was somewhat hesitant about BBBJ but decided that if it happened, it happened.
-I was excited about going! It felt.. like I was doing something naughty and that feeling did not feel very bad at all :)

The experience:
Cost - 270 (arvo discount). For this 'review' I won't disclose where I went and which WL I saw.

I think I had already made a decision to trial a WL the night before, and think I spent most of the night... hard and expectant.
Come morning, I fumbled around on a few websites looking and thirsty over a few different ladies for a few hours before summoning up the courage to add two places on Wechat and asking for recommendations.

The criteria I gave the places were: I'm a first timer, seeking someone who speaks English and has nice breasts.

The services were remarkably responsive and I got responses within a few minutes for both which was very encouraging. Both recommended a number of ladies (primarily Japanese) and I spent another hour or two procrastinating about who to pick (man's an indecisive bitch). Eventually, I opted to go for a WL I thought would be a safe bet after reading whatever reviews were available on the forum. I was given a timeslot but advised there wasn't an ATM available. Getting the money took some time so I was in quite a rush to get to the place on time which I don't think helped the anxiety/excitement in getting there.

On arriving, the place looked a little bit like a warehouse from the outside and had a heavy metal door out the front which I think gave me a little bit of a weird vibe. However, it was fairly clear it was the place I was looking for from the big neon sign out the front. I buzzed in and was greeted by a mamasan who confirmed my appointment and accepted my payment before walking off to advise the WL. The place in itself wasn't particularly remarkable, was fairly quiet and looked pretty normal with a couch for patrons to wait on (not sure what I was expecting). No other patrons were there at this time (makes sense because it was early arvo on Saturday) but I did catch a glimpse of a slightly overweight patron leaving the place who sounded like he had enjoyed his experience.

After a few minutes, I was greeted by the WL who appeared somewhat shy with moderately weak smile. No physical contact was had at this stage. I was led up a flight up stairs, past a small room with beds where a number of other girls were hanging out, and into the room where the action was to take place. The lighting was a dim, reddish/purple colour which honestly made it difficult to see very well. I was advised to take my clothes off and left them on a chair the WL pointed to. The WL also proceeded to strip as if it were business as usual and advised me 'shower'. She was of average (Asian) build, definitely with a little more weight than her photos with a pair of ?C enhanced breasts. There, I was given some mouthwash and she gave my buddy a bit of wash as well as I suspected inspected it for any concerning features. I tried to strike up some small talk but her English wasn't the best and it was definitely a little awkward. I asked her if I could touch her body, to which she said yes but clearly my touches were tentative at best (a common theme with a lot of my touching due to uncertainty).

She then asked me to lay down on the bed and gave me some brief light kisses before moving down the rest of my body toward my member. I would say that her BBBJ was probably good but I definitely wasn't yet in the mood since so far it'd been quiet, awkward and I knew nothing about her except her working name. As such, I went soft a few times but with some coaxing, she was able to get him to stand up. She put on a dom and attempted cowgirl but before long it went soft again. Likely this was because I felt that things were definitely... mechanical as opposed to the passionate experience I had been expecting (however magically this was supposed to happen) and when looking at her face, I felt she had the expression of a person who felt chronically low but had come to terms with her existence (almost like you would see with a tired, middle aged salaryman who doesn't like his job and has little going for him for some time but sticks with it as he has no choice). The idea of continuing to have sex with someone who looked tired/low was (and generally is) unappealing to me and I asked her if everything was okay, to which she replied that she always looked that way.

Because verbal communication was likely going to be a challenge, I asked her to take a break and wondered if some light foreplay might improve her mood. She mentioned that she liked DATY and so after some kissing (we went DFK anyway), I decided to DATY despite the potential risks I had considered before. While she let some moans out from time to time and seemed to make some motions indicating that she was getting close, it was clear from my experience with my previous partner that this was in fact not the case and I eventually abandoned the project, being internally plagued by the idea that it would make sense that meeting a stranger for the first time with some previous awkward interactions likely wouldn't offer the safe space to feel comfortable enough to have an orgasm anyway. Her nipples did get hard though which was some encouragement at least.

I had some more mouthwash, lay by her for a little time and tried to chat a little more, opting to touch her body and face which I think helped perk my member up. This eventually culminated in some missionary, doggy and cowgirl which I could tell she put quite some effort into. I did notice that during all of these, she avoided eye contact which I think stripped any significant kind of connection (or attempt at convincing myself there was a connection). I did, however, get a nice view of her nice breasts and got to have a little fun with them (natural breasts are definitely much more fun and soft though). Because I never did doggy with my previous partner, I definitely got an appreciation that it was mechanically much easier to have sex this way and holding onto her hips and ass was nice. I was eventually able to finish in missionary but definitely had to let my mind wander a bit.

Afterward, we lay on the bed side by side (not cuddling. It definitely felt strange not engaging in aftercare but I didn't feel comfortable asking her to cuddle as I wanted to respect her default choice) where I learned a bit about the difficult circumstances under which she came to work at the brothel. Understandably, it was very much a job for her but she had come to terms with working in the industry because it was good money for someone with 'limited skills' (her words) which I tried to debate but found difficult due to the language barrier. Finally, I had a small solo shower and was escorted from the room before she said goodbye (no hug or anything though).


Thoughts on leaving/later:
-I think that the experience was definitely different to what I expected and did not 'magically' create a sense of connection I was hoping for. It definitely felt like a hollow shell of the sex that you would have with a real partner even if the act/mechanics of the sex are superior. It ultimately felt a little like sophisticated masturbation. The nerves and general lack of knowledge about what is expected of me/I can do definitely didn't help though.
-I also think that the expectation of establishing an amazing connection straight away is likely a bit of a far fetched dream and is simply not realistic and might require repeat visits. I do feel that if I were to have a connection with a WL and saw them a few times, it might be a little dangerous for my heart (and wallet) though.
-I got a better appreciation for the people in the industry - I don't think I had any significant preconceptions that they would all be super sex loving but definitely confirmed my initial thoughts that generally, it's just normal people working at a job
-I, in fact, did learn a little bit about how to have sex! - mostly doggy and how cowgirl could be performed by someone with experience. I also learned how important eye contact was for me.
-Almost 300 dollars for an hour was quite a lot of money but I was not particularly perturbed by this because it was worth trying regardless and it's not every day that I get to have an attractive lady to myself
-On later reflection, I think that if I went in with a different set of expectations ie. to have fun and enjoy the experience, the experience would likely have been much more positive.
-I wonder if the experience would have been different had I asked for something different eg. GFE but that leads me to my next point
-I wonder if I need practice with suspension of disbelief and also just need to let go of overanalysing the whole interaction to better enjoy the experience
-I'm almost certain that now I have some idea of what the process entails, future visits might go a little more smoothly. I sure wish that each worker had a list of things they would consent to though eg. when am I allowed to touch etc.

Here's praying I didn't catch anything.
Right now, I'm a little on the fence as to whether to try again.
Was it a dud punt? Tell me about your thoughts and experiences and happy for any reccs :)
And the killer question: would you say punting is for me?

Also yikes this took an hour to write.

Mate this post is longer than how long I lasted when I first had sex. Hope you didn't pop in 30 secs lol

[NoAIr]

Mate this post is longer than how long I lasted when I first had sex. Hope you didn't pop in 30 secs lol

That I did not :shout:

[11Bravo]

Thank you - you've restored my faith in humanity... OK, that might be a stretch, but seriously, thank you. You're the rare type; for most who ask questions, they never provide any feedback. The next time you hear from them, it's another question. Even rarer, your feedback, rather than one of the one or two liner for what passes locally as an AR, was with an informative and entertaining international-style AR. Well done.

If you want my opinion (few do, but that never stops me), I'll respond in kind with a trademarked 11Bravo Slice-n-Dice:


Cost - 270 (arvo discount). For this 'review' I won't disclose where I went and which WL I saw.No need for names; that's not the point; the experience is.


-I expected that it wouldn't be as intimate as time with your partner especially since it would be my first time meeting the WL. However, I did believe that I would be put relatively at ease and was expecting friendly service just by the nature of the job. I was also expecting some level of establishing intimacy before the sex.
You're there for sex, she knows you're there for sex, and that's what she provides. It's a simple transaction, no intimacy required.


-I was hoping to be lead through the process given that it was my first time seeking sexual services and expected that the WLs would likely have faced this scenario before.
Many no doubt have, but you're not special, just like any other is not, just another widget to be shined and polished.


-I expected the WL to be good at the act of sex just as a byproduct of experience. I also hoped to learn a bit more about how to optimally have sex in general from a physical mechanics standpoint.
No doubt she has a lot of experience with sexual acts. But that doesn't mean she'll be a good teacher.


-I hoped to have a big jaw drop moment on seeing the WL because let's face it a lot of them photos are just smoking hot and Asians are definitely up my alley being an Asian myself. I knew the photos are photoshopped but monkey brain likes to dream. Fantasy vs Reality. Bit of common sense here... if she's that stunning she probably has better options than working in a brothel serving the likes of us. It does happen, about as often as a sighting of a Tasmanian tiger.


-I was rather apprehensive about going to the brothel - it felt almost like I was trying to break through some kind of invisible mental barrier just by the label alone and what this might mean for myself.The line I was referring to, the line, once crossed, that becomes easier and easier to cross again.


-I was excited about going! It felt.. like I was doing something naughty and that feeling did not feel very bad at all :)
Again, the rush of the forbidden, except it's not; it's just a job.


-I was rather apprehensive about STI transmission and at this time had decided not to engage in DFK or DATY. I was somewhat hesitant about BBBJ but decided that if it happened, it happened.

Here's praying I didn't catch anything.
Possible, and not just with the practices cited, but extremely unlikely.


I was given a timeslot but advised there wasn't an ATM available. Getting the money took some time so I was in quite a rush to get to the place on time which I don't think helped the anxiety/excitement in getting there.
As with ANY appointment, better to have what you need before you go. Rushing leads to anxiety (and a lot of sweating).


Likely this was because I felt that things were definitely... mechanical as opposed to the passionate experience I had been expecting (however magically this was supposed to happen) and when looking at her face, I felt she had the expression of a person who felt chronically low but had come to terms with her existence (almost like you would see with a tired, middle aged salaryman who doesn't like his job and has little going for him for some time but sticks with it as he has no choice). The idea of continuing to have sex with someone who looked tired/low was (and generally is) unappealing to me and I asked her if everything was okay, to which she replied that she always looked that way.

... it was very much a job for her but she had come to terms with working in the industry because it was good money for someone with 'limited skills' (her words) which I tried to debate but found difficult due to the language barrier.

-I got a better appreciation for the people in the industry - I don't think I had any significant preconceptions that they would all be super sex loving but definitely confirmed my initial thoughts that generally, it's just normal people working at a job
As you've discovered (ah, enlightenment, always a blessing even if also disappointing), it's just a job, doing what is necessary to achieve her goals. What I admire about them, accepting the shitty cards they've been dealt, and getting on with life. Some of the nicest people I've met have been sex workers. I wonder how many here, if their situation suddenly collapsed, would they have what it takes to go be an ex-pat in a foreign country, different language, shit job, to do what is necessary to take care of their family... If that's so easy, then go be an expat, earn the big bucks, tax free, don't be down at CentreLink, whining that the ex-wife got the house, all the money, child support is crushing you...


She mentioned that she liked DATY and so after some kissing (we went DFK anyway), I decided to DATY despite the potential risks I had considered before. While she let some moans out from time to time and seemed to make some motions indicating that she was getting close, it was clear from my experience with my previous partner that this was in fact not the case and I eventually abandoned the project, being internally plagued by the idea that it would make sense that meeting a stranger for the first time with some previous awkward interactions likely wouldn't offer the safe space to feel comfortable enough to have an orgasm anyway. Her nipples did get hard though which was some encouragement at least.
Very astute observation. Being physically aroused a lot easier than orgasm. It can happen, but IME, she knows you so can relax and let her guard down, and especially if there is time, not just for the act, but also she's not thinking about what else she has to do (ST vs LT, where LT is overnight (offshore)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEX0fbGePg


-I think that the experience was definitely different to what I expected and did not 'magically' create a sense of connection I was hoping for. It definitely felt like a hollow shell of the sex that you would have with a real partner even if the act/mechanics of the sex are superior. It ultimately felt a little like sophisticated masturbation. The nerves and general lack of knowledge about what is expected of me/I can do definitely didn't help though.
It's a job, a BUSINESS transaction, P4P. Nothing more.



-I also think that the expectation of establishing an amazing connection straight away is likely a bit of a far fetched dream and is simply not realistic and might require repeat visits. I do feel that if I were to have a connection with a WL and saw them a few times, it might be a little dangerous for my heart (and wallet) though.
I'd say same experience, just more relaxed. The connection is that you know her, she knows you. But magic... that's just a fantasy, only happens IRL.



-I'm almost certain that now I have some idea of what the process entails, future visits might go a little more smoothly. I sure wish that each worker had a list of things they would consent to though eg. when am I allowed to touch etc.
GENERALLY, in a brothel, external touching, especially if gentle (no pinching, slapping, etc.) is fine; internal touching depends on the provider.


-On later reflection, I think that if I went in with a different set of expectations ie. to have fun and enjoy the experience, the experience would likely have been much more positive.

-I wonder if the experience would have been different had I asked for something different eg. GFE but that leads me to my next point

-I wonder if I need practice with suspension of disbelief and also just need to let go of overanalysing the whole interaction to better enjoy the experience

Right now, I'm a little on the fence as to whether to try again.
Was it a dud punt? Tell me about your thoughts and experiences and happy for any reccs :)
And the killer question: would you say punting is for me?
If you're there for sex, just sex, nothing more, to be entertained sexually, as you said, sophisticated masterbation, maybe. But its a gfE, not a gf.

As I had said, I suggest stopping, dropping back 20 and punting (ala American football). Go spend the time, money, effort, on experiencing REAL relationship with all their dimensions; dewayne was spot on. Just because one relationship was asexual, doesn't mean all will be. You just have to keep looking. 20 years from now, when you've got a solid IRL foundation, then rethink.

But if you insist, I'd still suggest Louisa18ChardRoad for a brothel. She obvsiously speaks excellent English, and provide more entertainment and instruction. You can even post on the thread I cited, asking her directly (since you don't have DM's yet, another 3 or 4 posts to activate). But she does respond to posts on that thread.

MP's, which I prefer, are more laid back (pun intended). Certainly sex on a massage table not as comfortable as in a brothel, but I prefer the slower pace. I always book an hour, usually a 50/50 split between massage and relaxation. The massage can allow for some banter depending on her English. I'd suggest Summerville (contact Summer, the mamasan, explaining exactly what you're looking for).

Or Pink Lotus (either West Ryde or Kogarah, both same mamasan), speaking with Sophia, the mamasan (just make sure it's Sophia; her assistant I don't like), again explaining what you're looking for. Some providers work both shops; Sophia can set you up at either.

https://summervillemassage.com.au
https://www.locanto.com.au/ryde/ID_6995263655/BEST-FULL-BODY-MASSAGE-IN-WEST-RYDE.html
https://www.locanto.com.au/kogarah/ID_6995263499/BEST-FULL-BODY-MASSAGE-IN-KOGARAH.html

I'd say photos at all shops as close to legit as you'll find.

Still, better to turn around and enjoy REAL life at this stage of yours. Punting options (and temptations) will always be there. And the fantasy will always be better than the reality.


Also yikes this took an hour to write.
Again, enlightenment. Yes, it takes time and effort to write a real AR. So, next time you read one, appreciate it (and scoff at the one-liners).

[justincase]

Is there anyway you can condense the posts to ten words each?

[Danny801]

Damns, sorry to hear it was or felt mechanical .
Maybe give ML a go.
The newbie ones can feel like a GND or GFE, but difficult to catch them ‘NTI’ unless you have good rapport with a Shop or willing to spend to try a lot!
I had some that def felt proper GFE, and v into you, most likely cos they new to country and have a secondary plan to find a guy for a residency here! Had 1or2 invite me togo Thailand etc. *after 3-6 months in industry they will become jaded and like everyone else see it as work. So yeh 99% of time its pure transactional.


Hey everyone!

Thanks a lot for the insights and really interesting to see how different everyone's views are!
Special shoutout to Bistro and Bravo for your comprehensive responses.
Truth is that because there was a few days delay between this post being made and it going up I ended up going over the weekend to try it out because I couldn't resist.

In light of that, I was thinking of writing a little on my experience to see what my fellow punters think of it overall +/- if it was a normal experience. Also, I think it would be interesting to compare how other people's first times were and what y'all thought of potential next steps (if any).
I've also written it just as a general recount for all the curious perverts out there.

Expectations before going:
-I expected that it wouldn't be as intimate as time with your partner especially since it would be my first time meeting the WL. However, I did believe that I would be put relatively at ease and was expecting friendly service just by the nature of the job. I was also expecting some level of establishing intimacy before the sex. Also note I've been spoiled by VR for years before this with lots of eye contact with beautiful JAV ladies.
-I was hoping to be lead through the process given that it was my first time seeking sexual services and expected that the WLs would likely have faced this scenario before.
-I expected the WL to be good at the act of sex just as a byproduct of experience. I also hoped to learn a bit more about how to optimally have sex in general from a physical mechanics standpoint.
-I hoped to have a big jaw drop moment on seeing the WL because let's face it a lot of them photos are just smoking hot and Asians are definitely up my alley being an Asian myself. I knew the photos are photoshopped but monkey brain likes to dream.
-I was rather apprehensive about going to the brothel - it felt almost like I was trying to break through some kind of invisible mental barrier just by the label alone and what this might mean for myself.
-I was rather apprehensive about STI transmission and at this time had decided not to engage in DFK or DATY. I was somewhat hesitant about BBBJ but decided that if it happened, it happened.
-I was excited about going! It felt.. like I was doing something naughty and that feeling did not feel very bad at all :)

The experience:
Cost - 270 (arvo discount). For this 'review' I won't disclose where I went and which WL I saw.

I think I had already made a decision to trial a WL the night before, and think I spent most of the night... hard and expectant.
Come morning, I fumbled around on a few websites looking and thirsty over a few different ladies for a few hours before summoning up the courage to add two places on Wechat and asking for recommendations.

The criteria I gave the places were: I'm a first timer, seeking someone who speaks English and has nice breasts.

The services were remarkably responsive and I got responses within a few minutes for both which was very encouraging. Both recommended a number of ladies (primarily Japanese) and I spent another hour or two procrastinating about who to pick (man's an indecisive bitch). Eventually, I opted to go for a WL I thought would be a safe bet after reading whatever reviews were available on the forum. I was given a timeslot but advised there wasn't an ATM available. Getting the money took some time so I was in quite a rush to get to the place on time which I don't think helped the anxiety/excitement in getting there.

On arriving, the place looked a little bit like a warehouse from the outside and had a heavy metal door out the front which I think gave me a little bit of a weird vibe. However, it was fairly clear it was the place I was looking for from the big neon sign out the front. I buzzed in and was greeted by a mamasan who confirmed my appointment and accepted my payment before walking off to advise the WL. The place in itself wasn't particularly remarkable, was fairly quiet and looked pretty normal with a couch for patrons to wait on (not sure what I was expecting). No other patrons were there at this time (makes sense because it was early arvo on Saturday) but I did catch a glimpse of a slightly overweight patron leaving the place who sounded like he had enjoyed his experience.

After a few minutes, I was greeted by the WL who appeared somewhat shy with moderately weak smile. No physical contact was had at this stage. I was led up a flight up stairs, past a small room with beds where a number of other girls were hanging out, and into the room where the action was to take place. The lighting was a dim, reddish/purple colour which honestly made it difficult to see very well. I was advised to take my clothes off and left them on a chair the WL pointed to. The WL also proceeded to strip as if it were business as usual and advised me 'shower'. She was of average (Asian) build, definitely with a little more weight than her photos with a pair of ?C enhanced breasts. There, I was given some mouthwash and she gave my buddy a bit of wash as well as I suspected inspected it for any concerning features. I tried to strike up some small talk but her English wasn't the best and it was definitely a little awkward. I asked her if I could touch her body, to which she said yes but clearly my touches were tentative at best (a common theme with a lot of my touching due to uncertainty).

She then asked me to lay down on the bed and gave me some brief light kisses before moving down the rest of my body toward my member. I would say that her BBBJ was probably good but I definitely wasn't yet in the mood since so far it'd been quiet, awkward and I knew nothing about her except her working name. As such, I went soft a few times but with some coaxing, she was able to get him to stand up. She put on a dom and attempted cowgirl but before long it went soft again. Likely this was because I felt that things were definitely... mechanical as opposed to the passionate experience I had been expecting (however magically this was supposed to happen) and when looking at her face, I felt she had the expression of a person who felt chronically low but had come to terms with her existence (almost like you would see with a tired, middle aged salaryman who doesn't like his job and has little going for him for some time but sticks with it as he has no choice). The idea of continuing to have sex with someone who looked tired/low was (and generally is) unappealing to me and I asked her if everything was okay, to which she replied that she always looked that way.

Because verbal communication was likely going to be a challenge, I asked her to take a break and wondered if some light foreplay might improve her mood. She mentioned that she liked DATY and so after some kissing (we went DFK anyway), I decided to DATY despite the potential risks I had considered before. While she let some moans out from time to time and seemed to make some motions indicating that she was getting close, it was clear from my experience with my previous partner that this was in fact not the case and I eventually abandoned the project, being internally plagued by the idea that it would make sense that meeting a stranger for the first time with some previous awkward interactions likely wouldn't offer the safe space to feel comfortable enough to have an orgasm anyway. Her nipples did get hard though which was some encouragement at least.

I had some more mouthwash, lay by her for a little time and tried to chat a little more, opting to touch her body and face which I think helped perk my member up. This eventually culminated in some missionary, doggy and cowgirl which I could tell she put quite some effort into. I did notice that during all of these, she avoided eye contact which I think stripped any significant kind of connection (or attempt at convincing myself there was a connection). I did, however, get a nice view of her nice breasts and got to have a little fun with them (natural breasts are definitely much more fun and soft though). Because I never did doggy with my previous partner, I definitely got an appreciation that it was mechanically much easier to have sex this way and holding onto her hips and ass was nice. I was eventually able to finish in missionary but definitely had to let my mind wander a bit.

Afterward, we lay on the bed side by side (not cuddling. It definitely felt strange not engaging in aftercare but I didn't feel comfortable asking her to cuddle as I wanted to respect her default choice) where I learned a bit about the difficult circumstances under which she came to work at the brothel. Understandably, it was very much a job for her but she had come to terms with working in the industry because it was good money for someone with 'limited skills' (her words) which I tried to debate but found difficult due to the language barrier. Finally, I had a small solo shower and was escorted from the room before she said goodbye (no hug or anything though).


Thoughts on leaving/later:
-I think that the experience was definitely different to what I expected and did not 'magically' create a sense of connection I was hoping for. It definitely felt like a hollow shell of the sex that you would have with a real partner even if the act/mechanics of the sex are superior. It ultimately felt a little like sophisticated masturbation. The nerves and general lack of knowledge about what is expected of me/I can do definitely didn't help though.
-I also think that the expectation of establishing an amazing connection straight away is likely a bit of a far fetched dream and is simply not realistic and might require repeat visits. I do feel that if I were to have a connection with a WL and saw them a few times, it might be a little dangerous for my heart (and wallet) though.
-I got a better appreciation for the people in the industry - I don't think I had any significant preconceptions that they would all be super sex loving but definitely confirmed my initial thoughts that generally, it's just normal people working at a job
-I, in fact, did learn a little bit about how to have sex! - mostly doggy and how cowgirl could be performed by someone with experience. I also learned how important eye contact was for me.
-Almost 300 dollars for an hour was quite a lot of money but I was not particularly perturbed by this because it was worth trying regardless and it's not every day that I get to have an attractive lady to myself
-On later reflection, I think that if I went in with a different set of expectations ie. to have fun and enjoy the experience, the experience would likely have been much more positive.
-I wonder if the experience would have been different had I asked for something different eg. GFE but that leads me to my next point
-I wonder if I need practice with suspension of disbelief and also just need to let go of overanalysing the whole interaction to better enjoy the experience
-I'm almost certain that now I have some idea of what the process entails, future visits might go a little more smoothly. I sure wish that each worker had a list of things they would consent to though eg. when am I allowed to touch etc.

Here's praying I didn't catch anything.
Right now, I'm a little on the fence as to whether to try again.
Was it a dud punt? Tell me about your thoughts and experiences and happy for any reccs :)
And the killer question: would you say punting is for me?

Also yikes this took an hour to write.

[GoldfishMan]

Is there anyway you can condense the posts to ten words each?

One wall of text deserves an even bigger wall of text in response.

[NoAIr]

Thank you - you've restored my faith in humanity... OK, that might be a stretch, but seriously, thank you. You're the rare type; for most who ask questions, they never provide any feedback. The next time you hear from them, it's another question. Even rarer, your feedback, rather than one of the one or two liner for what passes locally as an AR, was with an informative and entertaining international-style AR. Well done.

If you want my opinion (few do, but that never stops me), I'll respond in kind with a trademarked 11Bravo Slice-n-Dice:

No need for names; that's not the point; the experience is.


You're there for sex, she knows you're there for sex, and that's what she provides. It's a simple transaction, no intimacy required.


Many no doubt have, but you're not special, just like any other is not, just another widget to be shined and polished.


No doubt she has a lot of experience with sexual acts. But that doesn't mean she'll be a good teacher.

Fantasy vs Reality. Bit of common sense here... if she's that stunning she probably has better options than working in a brothel serving the likes of us. It does happen, about as often as a sighting of a Tasmanian tiger.

The line I was referring to, the line, once crossed, that becomes easier and easier to cross again.


Again, the rush of the forbidden, except it's not; it's just a job.


Possible, and not just with the practices cited, but extremely unlikely.


As with ANY appointment, better to have what you need before you go. Rushing leads to anxiety (and a lot of sweating).


As you've discovered (ah, enlightenment, always a blessing even if also disappointing), it's just a job, doing what is necessary to achieve her goals. What I admire about them, accepting the shitty cards they've been dealt, and getting on with life. Some of the nicest people I've met have been sex workers. I wonder how many here, if their situation suddenly collapsed, would they have what it takes to go be an ex-pat in a foreign country, different language, shit job, to do what is necessary to take care of their family... If that's so easy, then go be an expat, earn the big bucks, tax free, don't be down at CentreLink, whining that the ex-wife got the house, all the money, child support is crushing you...


Very astute observation. Being physically aroused a lot easier than orgasm. It can happen, but IME, she knows you so can relax and let her guard down, and especially if there is time, not just for the act, but also she's not thinking about what else she has to do (ST vs LT, where LT is overnight (offshore)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEX0fbGePg


It's a job, a BUSINESS transaction, P4P. Nothing more.


I'd say same experience, just more relaxed. The connection is that you know her, she knows you. But magic... that's just a fantasy, only happens IRL.


GENERALLY, in a brothel, external touching, especially if gentle (no pinching, slapping, etc.) is fine; internal touching depends on the provider.


If you're there for sex, just sex, nothing more, to be entertained sexually, as you said, sophisticated masterbation, maybe. But its a gfE, not a gf.

As I had said, I suggest stopping, dropping back 20 and punting (ala American football). Go spend the time, money, effort, on experiencing REAL relationship with all their dimensions; dewayne was spot on. Just because one relationship was asexual, doesn't mean all will be. You just have to keep looking. 20 years from now, when you've got a solid IRL foundation, then rethink.

But if you insist, I'd still suggest Louisa18ChardRoad for a brothel. She obvsiously speaks excellent English, and provide more entertainment and instruction. You can even post on the thread I cited, asking her directly (since you don't have DM's yet, another 3 or 4 posts to activate). But she does respond to posts on that thread.

MP's, which I prefer, are more laid back (pun intended). Certainly sex on a massage table not as comfortable as in a brothel, but I prefer the slower pace. I always book an hour, usually a 50/50 split between massage and relaxation. The massage can allow for some banter depending on her English. I'd suggest Summerville (contact Summer, the mamasan, explaining exactly what you're looking for).

Or Pink Lotus (either West Ryde or Kogarah, both same mamasan), speaking with Sophia, the mamasan (just make sure it's Sophia; her assistant I don't like), again explaining what you're looking for. Some providers work both shops; Sophia can set you up at either.

https://summervillemassage.com.au
https://www.locanto.com.au/ryde/ID_6995263655/BEST-FULL-BODY-MASSAGE-IN-WEST-RYDE.html
https://www.locanto.com.au/kogarah/ID_6995263499/BEST-FULL-BODY-MASSAGE-IN-KOGARAH.html

I'd say photos at all shops as close to legit as you'll find.

Still, better to turn around and enjoy REAL life at this stage of yours. Punting options (and temptations) will always be there. And the fantasy will always be better than the reality.


Again, enlightenment. Yes, it takes time and effort to write a real AR. So, next time you read one, appreciate it (and scoff at the one-liners).


Thanks a lot for your reply 11Bravo. Really means a lot to know somebody actually read my wall of text and even better broke it down <3.
Frankly I've seen your posts across the forum and they've always been very informative and useful for a newbie like me so thank you for your effort. Also sorry I don't know how to quote parts of your post in mine like you have.
Curious - what is an 'international' style AR anyway. I'd have you know I'm Aussie born mate (no offense taken though dw :) ).

Funny that what you said about how you respected the sex workers was EXACTLY what I tried to tell her but boy was it tough and I'm not sure she really got it in the end. Great to hear your respect for them too. From browsing the forums I sadly didn't feel that it was always the case for everyone.
Also definitely had a similar thought about 'why wouldn't someone who is extremely attractive just work as a model instead' but I wanted to see for myself.

Love the youtube video. I also want what she's having.

I can definitely see where you're coming from in terms of working on real relationships. Fear not brother, this one is definitely making some progress on that front ;).
I do have a bit of a confession to make that part of me going to these services in the first place is that I want my next relo to be my last and I don't think I'd ever do something like this again once that all started up so I wanted to squeeze some experiences in while in dating purgatory since my teens/early twenties was a sexual desert.
Definitely also appreciate that your comments for WL/ML it really is just a job. Ig the veterans know what they're talking about.

A shame PMs aren't online at this time or I'd definitely have some questions for you. I think your idea of trying a ML is definitely worth entertaining and thank you for the shop reccs. Muscles are feeling a bit tight anyway.
I also did have a glance at Louisa18ChardRoad's thread and it definitely sounds like an interesting proposition.

Oh what a curse it is to be a curious person! I hope I still have 8 remaining lives even if it's not clear if I'm spending them yet.

[NoAIr]

Damns, sorry to hear it was or felt mechanical .
Maybe give ML a go.
The newbie ones can feel like a GND or GFE, but difficult to catch them ‘NTI’ unless you have good rapport with a Shop or willing to spend to try a lot!
I had some that def felt proper GFE, and v into you, most likely cos they new to country and have a secondary plan to find a guy for a residency here! Had 1or2 invite me togo Thailand etc. *after 3-6 months in industry they will become jaded and like everyone else see it as work. So yeh 99% of time its pure transactional.

Hey Danny,

Noticed you've been floating around since the thread started up too. Appreciate the input!
If I go again sometime, I sure hope I can hit the jackpot as you have (bloody dangerous though) and I'll be sure not to have it become an addiction for me! :)

[NoAIr]

Is there anyway you can condense the posts to ten words each?

First time. Some good. Some bad. Transactional. Sexy. Try more? ;)

[Icegodofhungary]

First time. Some good. Some bad. Transactional. Sexy. Try more? ;)

Very nice, well done.

[11Bravo]

Also sorry I don't know how to quote parts of your post in mine like you have.
Use the markup language, instructions surrounded by square brackets; a series of copy and pastes. Just copy the QUOTE=HANDLE;ref inside the square brackets at the start of the quoted post, then paste that wherever you want a section to begin. Where you want it to end, just paste the /QUOTE in the square brackets that you see at the very end of the quoted post. Certainly wouldn't do it on a mobile, and honestly, much easier to copy the whole quote from the forum into a text editor, compose, then paste back. Preview post to verify; touchups as required.

Same way you can use b, i, u, size, color in square brackets to begin, same letter prefixed with a / and enclosed in square brackets to close.

Also suggest not fully quoting a long post, maybe just the initial paragraph to identify. Just insert the /quote in square brackets where you want it to end and delete the rest.


Curious - what is an 'international' style AR anyway.
That's where I come from, ISG, the International Sex Guide forum. There, what's considered (I say FR, you say AR) is much more complete. Forums such as these are great for newbies, whether to punting or to a locale (e.g., I had no idea brothels were legal in SYD). It's why I believe in RTFF, UTFSE, pay your dues.


Funny that what you said about how you respected the sex workers was EXACTLY what I tried to tell her but boy was it tough and I'm not sure she really got it in the end.
WADR, telling her you respect her is, IMHO, condesending. She's simply providing a service I'm interested in. I just show respect as I would with ANYONE; no need to comment on the life choices. It's simple: you give repect, you get respect.


From browsing the forums I sadly didn't feel that it was always the case for everyone.
Unfortunately, true.


Also definitely had a similar thought about 'why wouldn't someone who is extremely attractive just work as a model instead' but I wanted to see for myself.
I have known the rare few, but it's definitly not the norm.


I do have a bit of a confession to make that part of me going to these services in the first place is that I want my next relo to be my last and I don't think I'd ever do something like this again once that all started up so I wanted to squeeze some experiences in while in dating purgatory since my teens/early twenties was a sexual desert.
No need to rush into anything. My advice is:
Travel when you're young; it broadens your horizons.
Travel when you're old, it confirms your prejudices.


A shame PMs aren't online at this time or I'd definitely have some questions for you.
Should be shortly, or certainly with a couple more posts. Just click on a member's handle in the leftmost column. If Private Message appears in the pop-up, it's enabled. Notifications at the top right of the page takes you to your inbox; will be highlighted in red if you have unread.


Oh what a curse it is to be a curious person! I hope I still have 8 remaining lives even if it's not clear if I'm spending them yet.
Curiosity is fine within reason. Too much can get you killed, literally.

Just checked; your DM is enabled.