Need some advice of what to do next…..

[westsydneypunter]

Need your advice, guys.

And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and that’s their job).

So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

Bet he’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and it’s the punter.

Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

Since 1st Jan 2025, I’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as I’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around begins…

Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As I’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but that’s it, as I’ve booked her out. He agrees.

The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

As I find this out, I say no, I’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? I’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as I’m staying here for the next few days. As I’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didn’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months I’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

I’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

[11Bravo]

Human nature*: You give an inch, they take a mile (someone else can do the metric conversion). Because of your extra work for free, hanging around, good nature, you were taken for granted. Because of your attachments to the shop, the boss assumed she could do whatever with no ramifications.

Obviously, walk away. Be happy with the good memories; now, those are just memories. Hopefully, you have the personal contacts (ala WeChat) of your regulars/favs, so you can find out where else they work and patronize those shops. Start the search for the replacement shop.

Celebrate a belated birthday on your next working trip to Thailand - take some vacation days or unpaid leave at the end of the assignment - talking weeks here. Punt in Thailand, taking some breaks to other countries to play tourist sightseeing. Cambodia - Angkor Wat should be on any bucket list. Laos has some nice places. Malaysia KL (RIP Beach Club), Penang. Indonesia. Singapore. Vietnam. Even Myanmar (fantastic country, go see Bagan; take the SLOW train from Yangon to Mandalay). Winter might not be the best time to go see China, but it's mandatory in January-February to see the Harbin Ice Festival, another bucket list item.

I'd just say take this as an opportunity to break the "Birthday-Punting" habit and broaden your horizons.

[Tommyp63]

Something needs to be very wrong for any business to tell (probably) its number 1 customer to never return. There’s two sides to every story

OP - as much as it sucks you’ve invested clearly lots of money & time into this place, I think it’s time to start fresh. It’s a business at the end of the day and if they don’t want your thousands of dollars each month, take it elsewhere

[Folcis]

You hung around at the shop when you weren't attending a booking? Made yourself part of the furniture there? Of course you got taken for granted. You were basically doing the nice guy act.

IMO women generally regard men they see as acting as nice guys with disdain. Which they will tolerate when they see you as useful, and then ruthlessly put you in your place if you make a nuisance of yourself. In this case, your crime was standing up for yourself.

By the way, boss lady wasn't saying you had no money. She was saying she wasn't impressed you had money, and she was kind of sick of you always being at the shop.

[Linza Giz]

Usually if you behave like a doormat people wipe their feet on you.

Your behaviour is weird and they probaly think you are a strange fellow with not much going for you in life. So they don't respect you, all you bring is money and they think even if they treat you like this you will come back.

I hope you realise from this experience that you should not be someone's doormat.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Two questions

- what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
- how can I get a job doing it

[Folcis]

Your behaviour is weird and they probaly think you are a strange fellow with not much going for you in life.


That was what I was trying to say, but you said it much better.

Why should I respect you if you don't respect yourself is probably what boss lady was thinking.

[jedibear]

Bro sorry to hear that. Don't be taken for granted. Enjoy some Thai punani.

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[GoldfishMan]

Two questions

- what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
- how can I get a job doing it

45K only in this shop, bro. He was spending more than 20K between Jan Feb this year across 2 shops, so total spend for the year must be way above 45K. I'm starting to get the feeling that the shop cut him loose out of pity.
Who pisses their life and money away like that on hookers? It's a downward spiral he's on.

Besides, I think he may have negotiated a deal that was too cheap for the shop. Take a look at the numbers. 4 X 12-hour sessions plus "a few" 2 hour doubles... let's assume 4 X doubles. All for $7k. That works out to an hourly rate of less than $100. Yeah sure that's a lot of hours but potential income is very much reduced.

[hornedbeast]

You overstayed your welcome, loitering around and pottering about. They don't want you there anymore. Pretty clear. They deal with transactions, not entertaining those hanging around to chat etc. Name and shame them as a parting gift. As the saying goes... a fool and his money are soon parted.

[blitz]

I've seen this movie many times before and it almost never ends well. I assume it's an Asian shop? Chinese owner? Trying to crossover from a customer to a 'friend' of the shop never works. To be honest I believe the shop owner has had enough of you hanging around, despite how much money you spend.
Secondly, treating yourself for your birthday by locking yourself inside a dingy brothel with no windows and no fresh air for 5 days is just weird. Thailand isn't the only place to go for cheap sex with Asian girls. Go somewhere you haven't been before. Experience something different. Actually treat yourself. It doesn't always have to involve sex.

[Rogerram]

Hey man firstly happy birthday and hope you can go and find some happiness somewhere.

You sound like you are looking for some sort of connection or are lonely. I think it sounds like you made a cardinal mistake thinking that the shop and the ladies are your friends...

But mate they are a business, and are there to make money. Having someone hang out at their place of business, who doesn't work there, would be uncomfortable for them.

Also consider that the ladies would be better off with 5 bookings in 5 hours than one booking for 5 hours. They will have a higher chance of getting tips in 5 bookings, unless you are tipping equivalent of 5 bookings...

Ultimately mate I agree with brother Bravo - he has good advice... I think that helping out at the shop made you feel good about yourself, and spending money made you feel entitled to it - but at the end of the day that isn't the same way the shop feels about it and its time for you to reality check yourself and move on with your life...

[AHLUNGOR]

Two questions

- what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
- how can I get a job doing it


same here, but I'm more interested in the $7K tax return ?

Like, what did he claim to get so much back ?

[SlippinJimmy]

This is depressing.

Find a hobby outside of punting bro.

Sex is great but it's not the only thing in life. Do martial arts, help the homeless etc. try something else

[Itsmee]

I am sure someone will be missing your $.

From your previous post it looks like you have plenty of choices

https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?140791-How-much-have-you-spent-so-far-2025&p=3568396#post3568396


Need your advice, guys.

And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and thatÂ’s their job).

So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

Bet heÂ’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and itÂ’s the punter.

Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

Since 1st Jan 2025, IÂ’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as IÂ’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around beginsÂ…

Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As IÂ’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but thatÂ’s it, as IÂ’ve booked her out. He agrees.

The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

As I find this out, I say no, IÂ’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? IÂ’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as IÂ’m staying here for the next few days. As IÂ’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didnÂ’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months IÂ’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

IÂ’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; IÂ’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

[Itsmee]

No doubt someone will want your $

From your previous post, you have plenty of choices

https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?140791-How-much-have-you-spent-so-far-2025&p=3568396#post3568396


Need your advice, guys.

And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and that’s their job).

So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

Bet he’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and it’s the punter.

Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

Since 1st Jan 2025, I’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as I’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around begins…

Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As I’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but that’s it, as I’ve booked her out. He agrees.

The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

As I find this out, I say no, I’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? I’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as I’m staying here for the next few days. As I’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didn’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months I’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

I’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

[tezzaman18]

That's good analytics!!! Shop owner may have wised up to that.

Plenty of good advice and a reality check from the Bros ...... 11Bravo, Folcis, Blitz, hornedbeast etc

You sound like a real decent bloke.

Rogerram has made a very good point. There is something not quite right in your life if your are spending so much time at the shop . Only natural to be pissed off , a feeling of injustice since the shop owner has put you out. If you are feeling angry , it's good . Helps the healing process.

You have to move on. Feel satisfied with what you have done! Does not matter if there is not appreciation or gratitude shown.

All the best!




45K only in this shop, bro. He was spending more than 20K between Jan Feb this year across 2 shops, so total spend for the year must be way above 45K. I'm starting to get the feeling that the shop cut him loose out of pity.
Who pisses their life and money away like that on hookers? It's a downward spiral he's on.

Besides, I think he may have negotiated a deal that was too cheap for the shop. Take a look at the numbers. 4 X 12-hour sessions plus "a few" 2 hour doubles... let's assume 4 X doubles. All for $7k. That works out to an hourly rate of less than $100. Yeah sure that's a lot of hours but potential income is very much reduced.

[justincase]

A punter is only as good as the money he brings in. Maybe the owner miscalculated on the session rate?

[Becareful]

Dude you sound like a loser spending all your time at a brothel/massage place or even go to these places on their birthday. Dont you have any friends or family to spend time with rather then wasting it on people pretending to like you. You should just go there when you feel the urge and just leave...

[youngheart]

Sounds like he really needs a sugar baby.

[nosytt]

I guess no one is going to ask why she had an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours?

[Rogerram]

That sounds like an excuse to me of the WL not wanting to do the booking...

[keebab]

I think this is actually a good thing. You need a break from that place and a break from punting in general. I've they've legit cut you off, its no big deal. If they message you later begging you back, you know where you stand.

Find a hobby that isn't fucking for a month. See how it feels. You can always go back to being a degen later.

[andrewv]

Hello @westsydneypunter.

If you want a professional opinion, here it is: Disregard all the comments that other punters pontificated here. Go to see your GP and ask for a referral to a psychologist, for your own sake.
It will be the best thing you will do for your well-being. Your issues, based on what you wrote, are multi-layered, and much deeper and wider than being just a bloke who enjoyed going to brothels and "being nice and kind". I expect you will require counselling for at least 12 months to work out your issues, with appointments every 10 days or so.

Good luck.

[andrewv]

Psychological Analysis:


1. Emotional Dependency & Attachment Substitution

There are clear markers of parasocial or pseudo-intimate attachment—a one-sided emotional investment toward sex workers and the brothel community that substitutes for real emotional connection.
The “comfort” he describes functions as an emotional refuge, likely filling unmet needs for acceptance, belonging, and validation.

2. Compulsive or Addictive Sexual Behaviour

The frequency, duration, and financial outlay suggest possible compulsive use of commercial sex:

Recurrent high spending despite negative consequences.

Preoccupation with maintaining involvement.

Escalation in time commitment (multi-day bookings).

Intense distress when access is disrupted.
These are hallmarks of behavioural addiction, not purely transactional use.

3. Defended Vulnerability and Cognitive Dissonance

His insistence that he’s “not in love” and “not crazy” reflects defensive rationalisation—protecting against the painful recognition of emotional dependency or rejection.
The language (“I just help out out of kindness”) masks a need for significance and reciprocal care that he cannot admit within the transactional framework of a brothel.

4. Rejection Sensitivity & Narcissistic Injury

When the owner abruptly cuts him off, he experiences it as a betrayal of loyalty and worth. The subsequent indignation (“After all I’ve done for them!”) indicates narcissistic wounding—a collapse of self-esteem tied to perceived unfair treatment.

5. Possible Underlying Factors

Patterns suggest:

Loneliness and low relational self-efficacy (difficulty forming mutual, non-transactional bonds).

Possible depressive or dysthymic traits, masked by activity and “helpfulness.”

Compensatory behaviour through control, spending, and “being needed.”

Summary
This punter exhibits traits of loneliness, dependency, and compulsive sexual behaviour masked as altruism. He appears emotionally invested in transactional environments that provide temporary acceptance. The abrupt rejection by the brothel has destabilised his sense of belonging, revealing underlying emotional vulnerability. Therapeutic intervention is advised to address attachment repair, emotional dependency, and self-worth regulation.

[Rogerram]

Hello @westsydneypunter.

If you want a professional opinion, here it is: Disregard all the comments that other punters pontificated here. Go to see your GP and ask for a referral to a psychologist, for your own sake.
It will be the best thing you will do for your well-being. Your issues, based on what you wrote, are multi-layered, and much deeper and wider than being just a bloke who enjoyed going to brothels and "being nice and kind". I expect you will require counselling for at least 12 months to work out your issues, with appointments every 10 days or so.

Good luck.

Andrews right. Mate go get some help. Looking at your post history you sound like you need some professional help...

[11Bravo]

Hello @westsydneypunter.

If you want a professional opinion, here it is: Disregard all the comments that other punters pontificated here. Go to see your GP and ask for a referral to a psychologist, for your own sake.
It will be the best thing you will do for your well-being. Your issues, based on what you wrote, are multi-layered, and much deeper and wider than being just a bloke who enjoyed going to brothels and "being nice and kind". I expect you will require counselling for at least 12 months to work out your issues, with appointments every 10 days or so.

Good luck.
Obviously, someone who knows is giving great advice. Take it. Look at it this way, can't hurt. If nothing else, you'll learn something about yourself, and that's always worthwhile, especially in the long run.

[EYANH]

Sometimes people take advantage of your kindness

[Paison]

Hookers are hookers. Its unfortunate, but you aren't going to find any loyalty or repayment - and at the end of day, they dont owe you nothing - its all transactional

Just save ur money and use it to travel the world instead mate. For 7k, you'd have a blast at Thailand.

[Costy]

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Stan Lee went to comic book guys shop but never left.
I get punting can be addictive, that’s why I only got once a month or longer. Get my fix from a girl that suits my desires then have a long break.

[ditchtheboss]

Dude you need serious help and you became a liability for the shop. Leave this site, quit punting and seek help pronto

[justincase]

I once read of a guy who worked and lived full time at a BDSM place in the city or close to the city and he did it all for free in exchange for being treated like a slave.

He did maintenance, cleaning etc and in return received their BDSM services for free. He’d participate with clients too but didn’t get paid. If I remember correctly he lived onsite in a cage. It was a 24/7 slave lifestyle arrangement.

Perhaps somone else knows of the story?

I’m trying to remember which place it was.

[RogerWood]

I find its best to keep trying new ladies, by sticking with regulars they will exploit u. It's fine to have regulars, but u dont want them thinking you're only seeing them alone.

[Double_Adapter]

Interesting post, bro… I recall reading one of your earlier posts, and draw a few possible conclusions; you’re either a full-blown puntaholic and need help, or you're a certified fool sitting on a sweet inheritance or you’ve hit the jackpot and got money to burn.

Overall Summary (Jan–Jul 2025)
Total Spend ≈ $53,000
Average Monthly Spend ≈ $7,570
Highest Month January 2025 – $13,690
Lowest Month May 2025 – $4,500
Average Spend per Session (est.) $250–$300
Estimated Total Sessions ~180–200 bookings

Spending Behaviour Profile
Style: Long-sessions heavy early on, then short frequent sessions during mid-year
Price Band: $150–$200 hr range dominates (ie mid market brothels)
Preferred Venues: 90 Artarmon, 19 Lipstick, Bonza, 533, 102 Liverpool
Refund Incidents: 3 documented (totaling ≈ $700)
Double/Group Sessions: Occasional (MFMF, no-swap doubles) around Mar–Jul

Top Repeat Performers
Naomi (90 Artarmon) 10+ Longest sessions, multiple walkouts, emotional rollercoaster
Miko (90 Artarmon) 5+ High-value, including NYE marathon
MiMi (19 Lipstick/78a/647) 5+ Loyal regular, consistent pricing
NuNu (Bonza/Yokos) 4+ Frequent in Apr–Jul
Karen & Cecilia (533) 3+ Mid-range go-tos in mid-year
Amy (19 Lipstick) 3+ Solid performer, reappears across months

Financial Forecast (If Trend Continues)
If the ~$7k monthly average holds steady for the remainder of the year:
Projected 2025 Total: ≈ $84k (or ~$1,615 per week / $230 per day)

[justincase]

Money doesn’t buy loyalty or respect.

Stop bitching and move on.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Dude you sound like a loser spending all your time at a brothel/massage place or even go to these places on their birthday. Dont you have any friends or family to spend time with rather then wasting it on people pretending to like you. You should just go there when you feel the urge and just leave...

I was thinking the same thing

[ChadThunderrcock]

Psychological Analysis:


1. Emotional Dependency & Attachment Substitution

There are clear markers of parasocial or pseudo-intimate attachment—a one-sided emotional investment toward sex workers and the brothel community that substitutes for real emotional connection.
The “comfort” he describes functions as an emotional refuge, likely filling unmet needs for acceptance, belonging, and validation.

2. Compulsive or Addictive Sexual Behaviour

The frequency, duration, and financial outlay suggest possible compulsive use of commercial sex:

Recurrent high spending despite negative consequences.

Preoccupation with maintaining involvement.

Escalation in time commitment (multi-day bookings).

Intense distress when access is disrupted.
These are hallmarks of behavioural addiction, not purely transactional use.

3. Defended Vulnerability and Cognitive Dissonance

His insistence that he’s “not in love” and “not crazy” reflects defensive rationalisation—protecting against the painful recognition of emotional dependency or rejection.
The language (“I just help out out of kindness”) masks a need for significance and reciprocal care that he cannot admit within the transactional framework of a brothel.

4. Rejection Sensitivity & Narcissistic Injury

When the owner abruptly cuts him off, he experiences it as a betrayal of loyalty and worth. The subsequent indignation (“After all I’ve done for them!”) indicates narcissistic wounding—a collapse of self-esteem tied to perceived unfair treatment.

5. Possible Underlying Factors

Patterns suggest:

Loneliness and low relational self-efficacy (difficulty forming mutual, non-transactional bonds).

Possible depressive or dysthymic traits, masked by activity and “helpfulness.”

Compensatory behaviour through control, spending, and “being needed.”

Summary
This punter exhibits traits of loneliness, dependency, and compulsive sexual behaviour masked as altruism. He appears emotionally invested in transactional environments that provide temporary acceptance. The abrupt rejection by the brothel has destabilised his sense of belonging, revealing underlying emotional vulnerability. Therapeutic intervention is advised to address attachment repair, emotional dependency, and self-worth regulation.

My professional diagnosis of OP is he most likely suffers from condition called "Not-Handsome & Not-Attractive"

He most likely does not look like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, BTS Jimin, Jackson Wang or Super-Junior Siwon.

Thats why he spends all his time at a brothel and paying for transactional sex

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

OP you're the biggest simp ever. Dude WTF. Man the fuck up for fucks sake. You're such a fucking loser.

Its blokes like you the reason the rest of us get so many roots, bareback all inclusive for $150-170/hr.

You call yourself a punter you son of a bitch?

Just listen to yourself how pathetic you are:

"The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

What should you do? You should MAN THE FUCK UP. Stop being the sissy simp you are and take fucken control. YOU OWN THE WHORE WHEN YOU PAY YOU IDIOT!!! Get this through your head and if you can't ask your friend to piss in your ear to clear it. OK.

"...the way I have been treated..."

Oh you poor diddums. You sound like a fucken faggot. Maybe you should try sucking dick.. just for a change. You might like the taste. Maybe it'll put things in perspective for you.

You think this is abuse? YOU THINK THIS IS ABUSE YOU FUCKEN COCKSUCKER???!!

Coming here expecting us to blow sunshine up your ass.

[RodgHerMoore]

Apart from the last post this thread is interesting and lots of bros have made good points.

I'd add to brother aussie hot guy tho. OP considers himself kind and nice. How about obsessive and a weirdo?

Who goes to the same place over and over? I agree with the posts that say he's deflecting/hiding his clear emotional attachment to the place.

Fk n leave as the saying goes in this forum.

About the no money comment, some bright brother did the maths. Yes OP paid the whole day but if you average it out, the WLs could have earned more per customer than the average rate you paid to "book them the whole day".

To OP, think about it from their perspective. You reduced their earnings and some may be living day to day on their takings. Even if it isn't this, you're ruining their earnings. It's a business at the end of the day and you're just another cock to them.

Glad to know you're moving on but don't get attached to the next place. No girl or business owes u anything.

It's a brothel/RnT FFS.

The other advice you're getting here is a good one....treat yourself to a good trip in Thailand or Philippines.

If u have cash and crave personal connection but cannot get a proper talk relationship then a sugar baby is better for you than these shops. You buy a better GF experience that way.

[thunder545454]

Need your advice, guys.

And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and that’s their job).

So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

Bet he’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and it’s the punter.

Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

Since 1st Jan 2025, I’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as I’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around begins…

Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As I’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but that’s it, as I’ve booked her out. He agrees.

The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

As I find this out, I say no, I’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? I’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as I’m staying here for the next few days. As I’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didn’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months I’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

I’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

Why don't you just invite the girls overnight to your place, I am sure they rather pocket the shop fee themselves and hang out at your place go for dinner etc, rather than just spend 6 hours in a room with you where they work all day.

Ive taken many girls from shops out, they are always keen to get paid and go out and about rather than stay at the shop.

[tezzaman18]

Great Analytics.

A good way of determining if there are fakes /imposters lurking around. These are the ones , our fellow bros are prepared to help out , in good faith.


Interesting post, bro… I recall reading one of your earlier posts, and draw a few possible conclusions; you’re either a full-blown puntaholic and need help, or you're a certified fool sitting on a sweet inheritance or you’ve hit the jackpot and got money to burn.

Overall Summary (Jan–Jul 2025)
Total Spend ≈ $53,000
Average Monthly Spend ≈ $7,570
Highest Month January 2025 – $13,690
Lowest Month May 2025 – $4,500
Average Spend per Session (est.) $250–$300
Estimated Total Sessions ~180–200 bookings

Spending Behaviour Profile
Style: Long-sessions heavy early on, then short frequent sessions during mid-year
Price Band: $150–$200 hr range dominates (ie mid market brothels)
Preferred Venues: 90 Artarmon, 19 Lipstick, Bonza, 533, 102 Liverpool
Refund Incidents: 3 documented (totaling ≈ $700)
Double/Group Sessions: Occasional (MFMF, no-swap doubles) around Mar–Jul

Top Repeat Performers
Naomi (90 Artarmon) 10+ Longest sessions, multiple walkouts, emotional rollercoaster
Miko (90 Artarmon) 5+ High-value, including NYE marathon
MiMi (19 Lipstick/78a/647) 5+ Loyal regular, consistent pricing
NuNu (Bonza/Yokos) 4+ Frequent in Apr–Jul
Karen & Cecilia (533) 3+ Mid-range go-tos in mid-year
Amy (19 Lipstick) 3+ Solid performer, reappears across months

Financial Forecast (If Trend Continues)
If the ~$7k monthly average holds steady for the remainder of the year:
Projected 2025 Total: ≈ $84k (or ~$1,615 per week / $230 per day)

[Kiki kong]

OP youre needy as AF. Sorry mate but its the truth aye. Simpty simp simp to the core from what you described the situation as.

You made yourself as a doormat and what do you think would happen? No such thing as fairytale ending in this industry bro.

Also you need to find a hobby, a civvie friend (preferably a non degenerate) and snap out of this spiral that your in.

[cplurt2]

It's a painful thing but it's time to move on. I think coming to a forum of degenerates may be a bad idea but a few of them did tell you to find some help too. find a hobby other than this hobby. Maybe a girl will fall into the picture. You don't want a working girl. They are broken wonderful creatures who will take all your money and leave you wanting to give them more with nothing in return.

[GoldfishMan]

I think it's fair to say that nobody on this forum wants to be like OP. This is like our worst nightmares realised... Someone who fell down the slippery slope and got completely addicted to the paid sex.

I mean even if I had millions or billions I wouldn't want to go through life like that. It's not just about the sex, it's about time, life. No amount of money can replace that. You only have one life, don't spend it all on hookers.

[jedibear]

I have had a shop stuff me around...told me to go, arrived and told to wait 1.5 hours later or try some other boiler. I left, went to another nearby shop and had the best root. I hate when a booking gets stuffed around, and definitely won't be back in the first shop.

OP, you're a good man, but don't be taken advantage of. Go take your dollars elsewhere and don't let yourself be taken advantage of

[ColesBag]

Sounds like he really needs a sugar baby.

Actually for this guy this would actually work well.

It would seem like a personalised transaction, he gets sex and she can take his money and it can seem like he is helping her and can even fix things for the SB and drive her places that sort of thing.

[Rainyex28]

What do you actually do during these long bookings?

After 2 shots I wanna fuck off. 1hr max...

[jedibear]

What do you actually do during these long bookings?

After 2 shots I wanna fuck off. 1hr max...Well said. 30 minutes for each shot. If I only want one shot then 30 mins max...

Post nut clarity sets in and I wanna fuck off

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[GoldfishMan]

Actually for this guy this would actually work well.

It would seem like a personalised transaction, he gets sex and she can take his money and it can seem like he is helping her and can even fix things for the SB and drive her places that sort of thing.

I don't think so. I get the feeling that there must be more to the story than what OP has written. I mean, I don't think he's just a normal bloke who likes to do long bookings and just have lots of vanilla sex. My guess is he's probably a demanding customer with unusual requirements. Whatever that may be, but it's probably something that would wear out a WL. If true, it rules out going with SBs for him. Gotta remember that SBs aren't nearly as hardcore as these cougar type WLs that work the joints he seems to frequent.

The fact that the shop literally booted him out even after he was ready to pay for extremely long bookings, as low as the hourly rate may be, adds weight to this theory.

[ColesBag]

I don't think so. I get the feeling that there must be more to the story than what OP has written. I mean, I don't think he's just a normal bloke who likes to do long bookings and just have lots of vanilla sex. My guess is he's probably a demanding customer with unusual requirements. Whatever that may be, but it's probably something that would wear out a WL. If true, it rules out going with SBs for him. Gotta remember that SBs aren't nearly as hardcore as these cougar type WLs that work the joints he seems to frequent.

The fact that the shop literally booted him out even after he was ready to pay for extremely long bookings, as low as the hourly rate may be, adds weight to this theory.

That's an interesting point.

Also having " couldn't get a fuck in a brothel " on his personal sexual CV is pretty amusing to the rest of us.

[MasterPaizuri]

This is the saddest thing I've ever read lol

Go and touch grass OP.

Make some friends

[GoldfishMan]

That's an interesting point.

Also having " couldn't get a fuck in a brothel " on his personal sexual CV is pretty amusing to the rest of us.

Didn't see realise he had that in his profile. Now it really does look like he's very out of the ordinary to say the least!

[schloong]

OP: as others here have said, go and see a Counsellor & you will get sorted.

Believe me, I know! I went through a pretty tough time many years ago and as it was affecting my work, my boss at the time told me I needed counselling. Only took a few sessions and well and truly sorted me out. I cannot recommend it enough!

You can thank us later mate...

[John11]

OP: as others here have said, go and see a Counsellor & you will get sorted.

Believe me, I know! I went through a pretty tough time many years ago and as it was affecting my work, my boss at the time told me I needed counselling. Only took a few sessions and well and truly sorted me out. I cannot recommend it enough!

You can thank us later mate...

Yet you are still punting it seems ? Haha

[Rainyex28]

OP answer the questions:

What do you do for a living?

What do you do with the women during these long stays?

[keebab]

Yet you are still punting it seems ? Haha

The fact is that all addictive behaviour whether its punting, booze, gambling, gaming etc is masking or distracting from underlying issues. Which is obviously the case for the OP.

Its possible to return to the behaviour once you've dealt with the underlying issues. But if its draining your wallet and sending you insane. Probably a good idea to go cold turkey for a while.

[ditchtheboss]

Yet you are still punting it seems ? Haha

Punting is only a problem if it is out of control and done to address underlying issues like the OP in this thread.

A few years ago I was pretty deep in it. $1200 a week plus multiple sugar babies. It was fun. It lead to meeting the WLs outside the shops which is never a good idea. Long story short I got help and introduced hurdles in my routine to prevent me from going to the shops. I didn’t go cold turkey but slowly reduced the frequency and introduced variety so not to be seeing the same girls frequently.

Fast track 2 or 3 years, I am not addicted anymore. I still punt but it is out of choice and my control not impulse or any other reason.

[Danny801]

Punting is only a problem if it is out of control and done to address underlying issues like the OP in this thread.

A few years ago I was pretty deep in it. $1200 a week plus multiple sugar babies. It was fun. It lead to meeting the WLs outside the shops which is never a good idea. Long story short I got help and introduced hurdles in my routine to prevent me from going to the shops. I didn’t go cold turkey but slowly reduced the frequency and introduced variety so not to be seeing the same girls frequently.

Fast track 2 or 3 years, I am not addicted anymore. I still punt but it is out of choice and my control not impulse or any other reason.

Cheers Boss, for sharing,
When you say hurdles you mean hobbies ?

[ditchtheboss]

Cheers Boss, for sharing,
When you say hurdles you mean hobbies ?

Not hobbies, girls are bettet than any hobbies and i am weak on that sense. I made commitments after work and controlled my whereabouts to avoid circumstances where u am near one of the shops. I work for myself so i am in total control of what i do and where i go so that’s easy for me.

Rubbing one out also helps to control the urge