Putting the girls down

[Hiptohip]

I was talking to a young lady yesterday ,she was a little distraught as a customer told her she was fat.
This young woman is about a size 12 beautiful Eurasian looks and is a stunning well proportioned woman.
As customers we're not all oil painting's and wouldn't get a second look from most women if we were walking down the street.
I don't understand why some blokes have to be insulting to the girls.
They provide for us as we provide for them, they have some feelings and their body is they're income.
To be deflated as she was is cruel and unnecessary IMO.
Respect them and your visit will possibly be all the better

[11Bravo]

Respect them and your visit will possibly be all the better
Nah, ain't NO "possibly" about it, it's a definitely...

It's the inferiority complex, low self esteem types feeling they have to bring all down so they can feel better. Or more likely the "macho-BOY" adherents to the self-help, how-to macho gurus to prove just how "macho" they are.

Been happening forever. A decade ago, sitting in BG7, a FL bar one afternoon. One of these types swaggers over to a group of FL's sitting at a near table, leans in to one, tells her he knows what the going rate is, then goes into his spiel in a loud voice, putting on a "how it's done show" for his mates. "You're too fat, not that good looking, blah blah blah, a guy like me would never pay that for you. You need to lower your price, then MAYBE you could go with me...blah, blah, blah." She's just sitting there, looking at him, all the time smiling. "Well, if you want to go with me, I'll pay half." Having put up with the buzzing fly for long enough, she gives a big smile, looks him straight in the eyes, and says, "No English". He kind of rocks back, turns, and stomps off. She looks over at me, and gives me a WTF grimace and eye-roll about my "fellow" farang. I give her a big shrug back, and we both have a laugh.

Behave like that and is it really a surprise you're getting sub-standard service, short-changed, ripped off... Paybacks a mofo...

[Hiptohip]

I really felt sorry for her when she opened up about it. She's a good kid ( young 30 yr old woman) trying to get ahead and some fick tries to destroy her. Weak bastard

[11Bravo]

I really felt sorry for her when she opened up about it. She's a good kid ( young 30 yr old woman) trying to get ahead and some fick tries to destroy her. Weak bastard
It's a tough, corrosive business. Any doubt why they all develop shells... Matter of survival.

[gedinsyd]

It sure is not cool to say that, even if one thinks so. One of my regulars is well aware she isn't the prettiest girl in the shop, and knows she hasn't got too much of a chance if the customer asks to see the available girls - the funny thing though is that she gets more bookings than almost all of the girls in the shop because she can massage way better than them, while a number of the quite attractive ones have failed to attract even a single booking in weeks. At the end of the day, some dickhead's opinion means little if a girl knows she has real talent, but some punters sure don't do themselves any favours by being nasty.

[Punt2Win]

Not good to criticise women's' bodies in general and especially not in a blunt disrespectful way. On the bright side it turns out this thread wasn't about euthanasia as the title suggests.

[11Bravo]

Not good to criticise women's' bodies in general and especially not in a blunt disrespectful way. On the bright side it turns out this thread wasn't about euthanasia as the title suggests.

LOL. Now if Kristi Noem was the OP, I would be concerned.

[justincase]

Look at the stats, a size 12 is considered overweight in Australia. So she is that.

If a man wanted sex with an overweight woman he could choose his wife or girlfriend…“Currently 66% of women in Australia are classified as obese and the stats for men are worse at 71% obesity.

It’s not fat shaming but fact shaming.

[pound4pound]

Look at the stats, a size 12 is considered overweight in Australia. So she is that.

If a man wanted sex with an overweight woman he could choose his wife or girlfriend…“Currently 66% of women in Australia are classified as obese and the stats for men are worse at 71% obesity.

It’s not fat shaming but fact shaming.

100% nobody tells a punter to pick a fat girl,skinny girl,tall girl,short girl. We see before we pick. In the game of punting girls know skinnier pretty younger get picked first.

Unfortunately that’s the business. Sports people don’t get picked for same issues.

[GoldfishMan]

Look at the stats, a size 12 is considered overweight in Australia. So she is that.

If a man wanted sex with an overweight woman he could choose his wife or girlfriend…“Currently 66% of women in Australia are classified as obese and the stats for men are worse at 71% obesity.

It’s not fat shaming but fact shaming.

Coming from you, this reply is like clockwork. So what if it's fact, the issue here is the shaming part. "If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything".

The punter isn't her nutritionist, he's not going to come back to see if she's improved. He's running for the hills and leaving this nasty little nugget for her.

[mcfly]

In this world we will always encounter people who do and say things we don’t like. It is a good opportunity for her to learn not to care about what other people think. She must believe there is an element of truth to it. Better for her to simply change her perspective of herself or lose weight. It’s all about taking responsibility for yourself mentally and physically. And besides this, yes I think whoever said that to her is a POS.

[justincase]

Coming from you, this reply is like clockwork. So what if it's fact, the issue here is the shaming part. "If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything".

The punter isn't her nutritionist, he's not going to come back to see if she's improved. He's running for the hills and leaving this nasty little nugget for her.

Clockwork yep.

Getting back to the profession in question.

Punters don’t have a five minute chat with each sex worker in a line up and then decide who they’re selecting. It’s a looks based selection process. For example how many line ups have you been to and seen women present with a “sour face” not even a smile? Did you select her? No.

If chubbyness turns you on then sure select a chubby girl.

Based on statistics men initially select on how pretty a girl is, not her nature or her ability. It’s evidenced by the amount of discussion about sex worker profile pics, “she didn’t look like the pics” etc and why is that important? Because men select on beauty. That being the case a smart woman if she wants to be busy should keep herself attractive and not put on weight. They make enough so they should spend enough to maintain their looks.

Weight is a big issue as far as I’m concerned and if I’m going to the effort to be fit and healthy then I’d expect any woman I punt or date to do the same thing otherwise they just don’t get selected.

Sex is performance based, so how can a woman run a marathon in bed if she’s piling on the kilos? She can’t, she’ll be a starfish and not do any work. Does any guy want to bang a lazy woman?

[justincase]

100% nobody tells a punter to pick a fat girl,skinny girl,tall girl,short girl. We see before we pick. In the game of punting girls know skinnier pretty younger get picked first.

Unfortunately that’s the business. Sports people don’t get picked for same issues.

Exactly and there’s a natural survivability barrier for each profession. Not everyone can be a rocket scientist and the majority realise that.

I’d say being called “fat” would be the least of her issues in this industry.

[11Bravo]

Punters don’t have a five minute chat with each sex worker in a line up and then decide who they’re selecting.
Unfortunately, that limitation is a facet of SYD methodology. Fortunately, elsewhere, that limitation does not exist. Of course, in the latter, it's a MUTUAL job interview.


It’s a looks based selection process. For example how many line ups have you been to and seen women present with a “sour face” not even a smile? Did you select her? No. Misstatement. Nothing to do with "looks". As I've said, it's ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE. It's called "reading the room".


Exactly and there’s a natural survivability barrier for each profession. Not everyone can be a rocket scientist and the majority realise that.

I’d say being called “fat” would be the least of her issues in this industry.
So why would you want to add to her burden?

Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was replying to.

[justincase]

Unfortunately, that limitation is a facet of SYD methodology. Fortunately, elsewhere, that limitation does not exist. Of course, in the latter, it's a MUTUAL job interview.

Misstatement. Nothing to do with "looks". As I've said, it's ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE. It's called "reading the room".


So why would you want to add to her burden?

Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was replying to.


For some reason time is of the essence here in the western world AND even though most men do “sweet f… all” outside of working hours they still don’t have or are given the time to filter women correctly prior to a punt so looks are important. It’s how the selection process works, “she looks hot, so I’ll take her”.

A woman’s attitude during the line up determines her appeal and its shown on her face. Bad attitude equals bad facial expresssion. If a punter can read the room so can her boss one would hope and surely they’re given some direction by the management? Maybe not…

I’m not here to add to anyone’s burden but if they’re not cut out for the job then they should not be in the profession. Whether it’s because of looks or attitude, someone needs to tell them and perhaps that punter who told the lady she was fat only had her best interests at heart?

Would you rather she read a review first? What’s more damaging to her psyche, a review or a one on one chat with a punter? If a person isn’t told then how will they ever self improve? For example someone I know was on $200-$220ph net. After some discussions and thinking about it over a period on time, it took 6 months and it’s now $400ph, sometimes as high as $500ph. If I hadn’t of said anything it wouldn’t have happened. Should I have kept quiet? Should that other punter have kept quiet?

I’d hazard a guess and say it’s somewhat difficult to get a supply of attractive motivated women and that entry level shops will give anyone a start irrespective of ability or looks and simply “roll the die” or to use another expression “throw some mud on the wall and see if it sticks”. In fact I’d guarantee it, for example how many times have you heard a manager on the phone throw out some BS line “come, she’s available” when she’s not and expect you to select someone else after you’ve turned up?

The larger financially established businesses can afford to be more selective and conduct a proper interview and vet any candidates correctly. (They’ll even go as far as giving certain certain punters money to book their best workers during quiet times)

It’s also about the want of money, to successfully net on average $200-$250 per hour a woman has to be financially hungry not desperate. They have to want to do the job and be attractive. Without those attributes they simply fail and we’re not here to prop up anyone or any business because of a “white knight” attitude to the tune of $300ph from our pockets are we?

Most punters don’t make that sorta coin as an hourly rate so it’s an important spend and they’re rightly justified in getting their moneys worth wouldn’t you say?

[Double_Adapter]

For some reason time is of the essence here in the western world AND even though most men do “sweet f… all” outside of working hours they still don’t have or are given the time to filter women correctly prior to a punt so looks are important. It’s how the selection process works, “she looks hot, so I’ll take her”.

A woman’s attitude during the line up determines her appeal and its shown on her face. Bad attitude equals bad facial expresssion. If a punter can read the room so can her boss one would hope and surely they’re given some direction by the management? Maybe not…

I’m not here to add to anyone’s burden but if they’re not cut out for the job then they should not be in the profession. Whether it’s because of looks or attitude, someone needs to tell them and perhaps that punter who told the lady she was fat only had her best interests at heart?

I’d hazard a guess and say it’s somewhat difficult to get a supply of attractive motivated women and that entry level shops will give anyone a start irrespective of ability or looks and simply “roll the die” or to use another expression “throw some mud on the wall and see if it sticks”. In fact I’d guarantee it, for example how many times have you heard a manager on the phone throw out some BS line “come, she’s available” when she’s not and expect you to select someone else after you’ve turned up?

The larger financially established businesses can afford to be more selective and conduct a proper interview and vet any candidates correctly. (They’ll even go as far as giving certain certain punters money to book their best workers during quiet times)

It’s also about the want of money, to successfully net on average $200-$250 per hour a woman has to be financially hungry not desperate. They have to want to do the job and be attractive. Without those attributes they simply fail and we’re not here to prop up anyone or any business because of a “white knight” attitude to the tune of $300ph from our pockets are we?

Most punters don’t make that sorta coin as an hourly rate so it’s an important spend and they’re rightly justified in getting their moneys worth wouldn’t you say?

Read the room?....what the fuck bro! Some blokes here couldn't read between a pre-op, post-op and a real chick!

[justincase]

Read the room?....what the fuck bro! Some blokes here couldn't read between a pre-op, post-op and a real chick!

They all have their appeal and in fact I’d be living with a hot looking Thai post-op if she wasn’t so increasingly greedy. Luckily I kept her in check but I pity those other fools she was dating at the same time. Yes I gave but it was a controlled spend, some men cannot say no when asked…

It’s a folly and easy trap to fall into especially if they’re very attractive. You start spending and there’s no going back. You want, they know it and that’s how the transaction plays out. You have to read them and understand their level of want and know beforehand if you can afford that.

It was a tumultuous relationship and for six months every week up and down and I’m not sure who was the more level headed, her or I. In fact I instigated a lot of drama but that’s because I like drama and the back and forth discussions.

A marriage, wedding for 50 people and citizenship was what she wanted and I was prepared to go all the way but I read her as a person that would instantly dump me once she got those objectives.

So it was press stop.

Like playing with fire, you just have to make sure you don’t get burnt.

[11Bravo]

I'm not here to add to anyone's burden but if they're not cut out for the job then they should not be in the profession. Whether it's because of looks or attitude, someone needs to tell them and perhaps that punter who told the lady she was fat only had her best interests at heart?
So, Master of the Universe, it's your right to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do. Well, fucking excuseeeeee meeeee.

And yea, PERHAPS he was just trying to help her, having her best interests at heart. Just like, perhaps, I have the rights to the Sydney Harbor bridge's 3rd lane tolls between 13:00-15:00 Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, and having your best interests at heart, I'd be willing to offer you a chance to purchase a 20% share of said tolls for a reasonable price. GTFOH.

Or maybe the providers should offer punters honest advice on how to improve their game: "If you lost 10 kgs, you could thrust more." "You have no clue about feminine anatomy, your cunnilingus is clueless, and your stupidity in believing the moans in incredible. Up your game, it's boring." "If you lost a bit of that arrogant, superior attitude, perhaps we'd both have a better time."

Bottom line: it wasn't his place to comment, "constructive" or not.

[ColesBag]

Size 12 is just fine. Some people are just arseholes.

[Hiptohip]

Mate fat she isn't fantastic curves not excess rolls a tight body

[RickyPunting]

. On the bright side it turns out this thread wasn't about euthanasia as the title suggests.

LOL! Was wondering wats rong with da yoof in asia these days munn. Booyakasha