WTF is going on with pricing?

[winky]

Hi all

Been away from punting for maybe a year and decided to jump back in. Visited the new Drummoyne shop Friday afternoon, met the girl, asked for 30min, $50 handed over, reasonable. Massage average, then flipped for part 2 and told (my mistake for not negotiating before we got into it) NHJ is $100!!! WTF...when did this go to a double pineapple for only 30 min! No negotiating was possible only that she offered clothed hj, no touching for $50..I declined and walked out.

Is this now standard pricing? $150 for 30min NHJ? Could still go to a low level brothel and get a root with shower both ends for around $100...what am I missing?

Might be a second, no third end to punting for me.

[DDT]

Better off to go for a full service, around $200, and you know what you're getting

[Holiday]

Hi all

Been away from punting for maybe a year and decided to jump back in. Visited the new Drummoyne shop Friday afternoon, met the girl, asked for 30min, $50 handed over, reasonable. Massage average, then flipped for part 2 and told (my mistake for not negotiating before we got into it) NHJ is $100!!! WTF...when did this go to a double pineapple for only 30 min! No negotiating was possible only that she offered clothed hj, no touching for $50..I declined and walked out.

Is this now standard pricing? $150 for 30min NHJ? Could still go to a low level brothel and get a root with shower both ends for around $100...what am I missing?

Might be a second, no third end to punting for me.
Few shops have some ML added extra pineapple above standard nowadays.
I walked a few times and just visit those massage and nhj included

[Studd]

I sure it was just a misunderstand or miss communication with the girl and why you didn't take it out with the Manager or shop owner. i am sure they will would have sort it out.

[Horatio]

Yep- got hit up for that at Motion Life earlier this month. Prices laid out up front as was talked down from longer to 30 mins for 50 then 100 for nhj. I think a cbj was there too but I really wasn’t feeling the whole thing. Wish I had been stronger and just walked out from the start!

[MasterPaizuri]

I got asked by a popular ML for $200 extra for FS. On top of shop fee for 30 mins

I told her max $150 or nothing.

She agreed but giggled.

It's the guys out there with deep pockets that ruin it for everyone cause there's defs people out there agreeing to ridiculous prices

[Jack-Jack]

I got asked by a popular ML for $200 extra for FS. On top of shop fee for 30 mins

I told her max $150 or nothing.

She agreed but giggled.

It's the guys out there with deep pockets that ruin it for everyone cause there's defs people out there agreeing to ridiculous prices

That’s insane ….

Not sure what is driving it shops/girls or like you say punters that are not feeling the economy slowdown but when I see girls who were $310 or $320 and never got a price increase now at $400 or more i just crack up and laugh esp the ones who have 1 hr minimum $400 an hr … ?! unless you’re her regular or believe she’s worth it I like variety and would rather try to girls for 30mins each lol

The girls complaining slowdown and not many customers in RNT land maybe stop gouging ur customers esp if you want repeat from them lol…

[crum]

Punters with deep pockets are happily paying these prices.

It’s usually the girls and not the shop, the girls charge what they charge in their room, it’s not always easy to manage girl extra prices that’s why shops like five dock and Stanmore are good because Ada is usually good at controlling the price of extras in her shops.

A lot of girls, especially Thai girls have increased their pricing pretty heavily over the last 1-2 years, the really popular ones usually lead the charge which is fair enough but they go back to the staff room after a job and talk about how much they got tipped to the other girls.. so then all the girls in the staff room have the idea of they’re just as good and can charge just as much.. which often isn’t the case.

[Hedonisticfun]

Hi all

Been away from punting for maybe a year and decided to jump back in. Visited the new Drummoyne shop Friday afternoon, met the girl, asked for 30min, $50 handed over, reasonable. Massage average, then flipped for part 2 and told (my mistake for not negotiating before we got into it) NHJ is $100!!! WTF...when did this go to a double pineapple for only 30 min! No negotiating was possible only that she offered clothed hj, no touching for $50..I declined and walked out.

Is this now standard pricing? $150 for 30min NHJ? Could still go to a low level brothel and get a root with shower both ends for around $100...what am I missing?

Might be a second, no third end to punting for me.

Maybe you haven*t heard about all the rage over the high cost of living , effects WLs and MLs just as much as everyone else . Thet*re only trying to survive as everyone else is .

[Ron the rimmer]

Maybe you haven*t heard about all the rage over the high cost of living , effects WLs and MLs just as much as everyone else . Thet*re only trying to survive as everyone else is .

Exactly . Good service =good price. Within reason of course.
I have a number of regulars and enjoy them all .
That’s what you need to do and then you will get satisfaction at a fair price without being a fucking dick and expecting them to come any where near you unless you are a decent and reasonably generous punter.

[ironmonk]

Unfortunately the dollar has far less weight now vs pre 2020. Everyone (to some extent) is suffering the effect of easy money policies.

Those with $$$ to burn probably own the right assets and are in their own world (see stocks and gold at ATHs but your average joe complaining about food prices). But even then I doubt they're the reason for higher WL/ML prices. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

[11Bravo]

Maybe you haven*t heard about all the rage over the high cost of living , effects WLs and MLs just as much as everyone else . Thet*re only trying to survive as everyone else is .


Exactly . Good service =good price. Within reason of course.
I have a number of regulars and enjoy them all .
ThatÂ’s what you need to do and then you will get satisfaction at a fair price without being a fucking dick and expecting them to come any where near you unless you are a decent and reasonably generous punter.
Advantage of regulars; they appreciate repeat business. Just had one that apologized for a price increase of... wait for it, wait for it... better sit down boys... wait for it: $10 on the shop; her fees the same. An apology for a $10 increase. When you fill up at the petrol station, you get an apology for the $10 increase? Electric company? ISP for that additional $10 fee?



It's the guys out there with deep pockets that ruin it for everyone cause there's defs people out there agreeing to ridiculous prices
I've been hearing this crap for decades in many a-clime. Now I have experienced across the board price increases, but they are rare. Easy to recognize - when everyone you pull declines... then it's time to reconsider the pay scale.

I place it in the "it never hurts to ask" category. I understand "negotiations" - who starts negotiating at their floor price?

Myself, I appreciate the punters willing to pay OTT. I won't, but they tend to keep the ladies in the game hoping for that big score. So when I POLITELY decline and make a counter offer, it's mostly accepted. If it isn't, perhaps a downgraded service compromise can be agreed on. If not, it's a simple, please finish the massage (very rare).

YMMV

[GoldfishMan]

Hi all

Been away from punting for maybe a year and decided to jump back in. Visited the new Drummoyne shop Friday afternoon, met the girl, asked for 30min, $50 handed over, reasonable. Massage average, then flipped for part 2 and told (my mistake for not negotiating before we got into it) NHJ is $100!!! WTF...when did this go to a double pineapple for only 30 min! No negotiating was possible only that she offered clothed hj, no touching for $50..I declined and walked out.

Is this now standard pricing? $150 for 30min NHJ? Could still go to a low level brothel and get a root with shower both ends for around $100...what am I missing?

Might be a second, no third end to punting for me.

It has been $50 NHJ for at least 15 years. A price increase after so long is not uncalled for, no? Live and let live bro.
Punters demanding that prices stay the same for these sexual services when the price of everything else has gone up are just killing the industry. It's no wonder that we're seeing more and more RNTs switching to legit massage these days. There is no longer a premium attached to doing this dirty work. Take a look at how much it costs to get a massage at a legit place. They go close to $200 for 1 hour, some even more depending on what you choose.

[Hiptohip]

If it's 110a speak to the receptionist she'll pull them up on their pricing

[pound4pound]

I have said this 100 times massage shops for HJ only otherwise you pay overs. FS go to full service shop.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

Too many weak cunt simps out there nowdays sucking up to the girls, giving tips etc.

10-15 years ago, many of the women I see in the industry nowdays would have zero chance of working.

Some I used to fuck for $120/hr even in 2019 are now older, uglier, looser and smellier. Hardened and sour. And charging $180-200/hr. Its disgusting.

[Ron the rimmer]

Too many weak cunt simps out there nowdays sucking up to the girls, giving tips etc.

10-15 years ago, many of the women I see in the industry nowdays would have zero chance of working.

Some I used to fuck for $120/hr even in 2019 are now older, uglier, looser and smellier. Hardened and sour. And charging $180-200/hr. Its disgusting.

Exactly right.
And a lot of them are on here

[justincase]

I thought it was a given that massage shops were cheaper than brothels for FS.

Apparently that’s now not the case given the fact the ML’s have carte blanche to name their pricing.

A rough guide is $300ph all inclusive.

How many punters earn that hourly rate?

[pound4pound]

Too many weak cunt simps out there nowdays sucking up to the girls, giving tips etc.

10-15 years ago, many of the women I see in the industry nowdays would have zero chance of working.

Some I used to fuck for $120/hr even in 2019 are now older, uglier, looser and smellier. Hardened and sour. And charging $180-200/hr. Its disgusting.

Couldn’t have said it better myself 100%.

[AJJ]

I went to Aamy Thai massage in Hornsby last week.
I really needed a professional massage but also thought I would get extras if the girl was into it....
Played dumb and just layed on the bed and enjoyed the massage.
After 45 min into a 60min she asked me if I wanted a nude hand job for an extra $100 for the remaining15min!!!!!!!
I politely declined and said just massage thanks. Man was she angry hahaha
She gave me the roughest worst massage for 10 of the last 15min cutting it short.
What a complete rip off! No way was i paying that for 15min 🤬

[11Bravo]

I really needed a professional massage but also thought I would get extras if the girl was into it....

Played dumb and just layed on the bed and enjoyed the massage.

After 45 min into a 60min she asked me if I wanted a nude hand job for an extra $100 for the remaining15min!!!!!!!
So, you entered, played dumb ... ... ... and she believed you. Problem?

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

I went to Aamy Thai massage in Hornsby last week.
I really needed a professional massage but also thought I would get extras if the girl was into it....
Played dumb and just layed on the bed and enjoyed the massage.
After 45 min into a 60min she asked me if I wanted a nude hand job for an extra $100 for the remaining15min!!!!!!!
I politely declined and said just massage thanks. Man was she angry hahaha
She gave me the roughest worst massage for 10 of the last 15min cutting it short.
What a complete rip off! No way was i paying that for 15min 🤬

Make sure you post a negative review on Google. Expose these impostors.

[robnw2]

I've had similar experience there. Extras do seem over inflated, especially as they weren't coming from the 'fresher' mls around

[AJJ]

Make sure you post a negative review on Google. Expose these impostors.

Good idea mate!!!
There is no way I will ever pay these exorbitant prices with only limited time remaining.
Definitely needs to be exposed!

[AJJ]

Haha yes! She wasn't even that 'fresh' lol

[VERY VERY_HARMSUP]

So, you entered, played dumb ... ... ... and she believed you. Problem?

ahahahahhahahaha guess she was testing the water to see if you know the market rates

[VERY VERY_HARMSUP]

Make sure you post a negative review on Google. Expose these impostors.

lmaooooooooo google review for FS shops and RnTs

[ricki]

The increase in price is stressing me out. One of my favourite WL went form $270 to $320 not even in the span of 6 months lol. I was ok when it went up to $300 but couple of weeks after its $320. She was worth more but didn't know why she hadn't changed price but when she did it went off quite a bit I guess.

[cos30]

Not sure why people are angry about girls increasing prices. If you're not happy with it then move on.. must be blue balls or something.

Others have said it already but inflations a bitch, these girls need to make a living too.

[11Bravo]

Not sure why people are angry about girls increasing prices. If you're not happy with it then move on.. must be blue balls or something.

Others have said it already but inflations a bitch, these girls need to make a living too.

You got that right.

Seems many forget that it's just BUSINESS. Don't think too many punters would pass up a raise at work ("Oh, no thanks, I'm content with what I make now"), or pass up the opportunity to move to a different employer, better benefits ("No, "I'll just stay where I am"). Loyalty? Yea, right. That attitude seems to be one-sided. "She raised her rates, boo hoo, whiny, whiny" while "you know, she was boring, saw someone I liked better...had to jump; no problem, adios."

And the "it's NOT fair; she's increased her prices, but my income hasn't increased!!!" Well, she had the opportunity, you didn't. If the situation reverses, you going to raise your payments accordingly?

Over decades, I've lost a number who simply moved up-market. Just wished them well, and perhaps did see them again - Christmas, my birthday. Just a good reason to start scouting again.

Like they say around the poker table: put up or shut up.

[NC3]

Hi all

Been away from punting for maybe a year and decided to jump back in. Visited the new Drummoyne shop Friday afternoon, met the girl, asked for 30min, $50 handed over, reasonable. Massage average, then flipped for part 2 and told (my mistake for not negotiating before we got into it) NHJ is $100!!! WTF...when did this go to a double pineapple for only 30 min! No negotiating was possible only that she offered clothed hj, no touching for $50..I declined and walked out.

Is this now standard pricing? $150 for 30min NHJ? Could still go to a low level brothel and get a root with shower both ends for around $100...what am I missing?

Might be a second, no third end to punting for me.

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In massage shops you have the total control, cases like yours [that is bad] or worst, just stay only with the massage and don't take extras at all, so you pay only the shop fee.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

There's a lot of simps here..

[pound4pound]

I don’t think the debate is price rises. The debate is massage v FS pricing with extras. Absolutely girls should earn a price increase like we all do.

[justincase]

these girls need to make a living too.

Let’s see, if the average Joe was on $320ph for a 38 hour week they’d be making $12160 per week or approx $630,000 per annum.

How many punters make that?

I think they’re entitled to complain.

[justincase]

Absolutely girls should earn a price increase like we all do.

Earn…Does the service get better after their price goes up???

On a whim a SW increases her rate. How easily can a punter who is salaried do that?

[Kiki kong]

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In massage shops you have the total control, cases like yours [that is bad] or worst, just stay only with the massage and don't take extras at all, so you pay only the shop fee.

I agree here with you NC3. Better to cut your loses with getting massage only. Save your pineapples for MLs who deserve them.

[11Bravo]

Let’s see, if the average Joe was on $320ph for a 38 hour week they’d be making $12160 per week or approx $630,000 per annum.

How many punters make that?

I think they’re entitled to complain.
Yea, how many large to mid-size companies in SYD? CEO's, CFO's, upper management... to them, $320/hr is chump change. Salary, bonuses, stock options... But, you see, not everyone gets a seat at the board table or gets to eat in the executive dining room. RHIP. Same in ANY industry.


On a whim a SW increases her rate. How easily can a punter who is salaried do that?
Boo hoo, boo hoo. Just like poker - if the ante is too rich for you, push back your chair, pick up your chips, and walk away. No one is forcing you to play the game.

Or, on a whim, go get a better job. Expat, off-shore, tax free, higher salary. You got the talents AND the stones?

[dewayne]

Another reason to find a few good regulars who you have a good working relationship with and who will lock you in for years at the same rate because they know you're chill and no stress.

[11Bravo]

Another reason to find a few good regulars who you have a good working relationship with and who will lock you in for years at the same rate because they know you're chill and no stress.

Obviously, someone who knows the game. She knows you, can relax, no safety concerns. Repeat business is money in the bank. She might eventually move up-market; it happens, it's just business. Just like, eventually, the punter might move on. But for while it lasts, win-win. IME, YMMV.

[Down@thY]

You got that right.

Seems many forget that it's just BUSINESS. Don't think too many punters would pass up a raise at work ("Oh, no thanks, I'm content with what I make now"), or pass up the opportunity to move to a different employer, better benefits ("No, "I'll just stay where I am"). Loyalty? Yea, right. That attitude seems to be one-sided. "She raised her rates, boo hoo, whiny, whiny" while "you know, she was boring, saw someone I liked better...had to jump; no problem, adios."

And the "it's NOT fair; she's increased her prices, but my income hasn't increased!!!" Well, she had the opportunity, you didn't. If the situation reverses, you going to raise your payments accordingly?

Over decades, I've lost a number who simply moved up-market. Just wished them well, and perhaps did see them again - Christmas, my birthday. Just a good reason to start scouting again.

Like they say around the poker table: put up or shut up.

Could not have said it any better :)

[Pattyherb]

Opal in ashfield wanted 350 on top of 95 hour fee... I kid you not.....450.... this must mean someone is actually paying it.

[TiredOfOnaholes]

That's insane, you could get the top talent at ginza with that money

People are Insane.

[pound4pound]

Opal in ashfield wanted 350 on top of 95 hour fee... I kid you not.....450.... this must mean someone is actually paying it.

Someone must off.

[trampslikeus55]

Opal in ashfield wanted 350 on top of 95 hour fee... I kid you not.....450.... this must mean someone is actually paying it.
She just didn't want you to fuck her. Easier to out price you than offend you. Trouble she has now is that you have belled the cat on her income 😎

[cos30]

Let’s see, if the average Joe was on $320ph for a 38 hour week they’d be making $12160 per week or approx $630,000 per annum.

How many punters make that?

I think they’re entitled to complain.

Don't complain if you can't afford it? Going to an ml/brothel is a luxury you don't necessarily need. Doubtful there are girls making 320ph for 38hrs a week.

[Pattyherb]

She just didn't want you to fuck her. Easier to out price you than offend you. Trouble she has now is that you have belled the cat on her income ��

Funny you say that it went ll the way down to 200 as I laughed and walked out the door. She has that pale faced stare as I walked out as if I was her dad or husband walking out on her, so depressing.

[Pattyherb]

Don't complain if you can't afford it? Going to an ml/brothel is a luxury you don't necessarily need. Doubtful there are girls making 320ph for 38hrs a week.

We just found the idiot that pays 450

[cos30]

We just found the idiot that pays 450

Found the guy who sees 50yo MLs

[Linza Giz]

Just go to the reputable shops they have upfront pricing

[justincase]

Doubtful there are girls making 320ph for 38hrs a week.

Really? Last tart I talked to was making $1000 per hour and guys are paying it. Admittedly she’s a private refined well spoken blonde cauc model type offering GFE only so maybe she’s worth more but that’s her rate.

I felt ashamed and didn’t tell her I generally spend on $300ph women so I left my past indiscretions out. In fact I never mentioned I punt as I didn’t want her to get the wrong impression of me. We discussed money, she got it up front but only after I picked her up as I’m not handing over thousands and waiting for a no show.

[cos30]

Making $1000 per hour is different from making $1000 per hour for 8hrs a day. Do you really think they're raking in 40k per week? The folks here complaining about prices are too high are the same delusional folk that think escorts make a mil per year.

[11Bravo]

Opal in ashfield wanted 350 on top of 95 hour fee... I kid you not.....450.... this must mean someone is actually paying it.
And we just found the dude seen as a mark by so many providers...


The folks here complaining about prices are too high are the same delusional folk that think escorts make a mil per year.
Guess it must be the season, does my heart good to see a number of members soooooo concerned with the welfare of others and what they are paying with their own money... But methinks there's a bit of self-interest involved, that they are concerned with rate hikes across the board. IME, those are rare. And perhaps they're only familiar with sticker prices... In negotiations, who starts at their floor?

Myself, I'm a free market type of guy. Let the market dictate prices rather than price controls. Don't think too many members here would be clamoring for price controls on THEIR OWN salaries. And I think there are very few justincase's (no disrespect intended); most are rank and file paying the standard wages.

IME - the sky is NOT falling...