FS Rate in a Massage Parlour

[BeardedClam]

This goes in cycles and then settles
The rate for FS In A Massage parlour depends on the shop entry price.
If the entry price is $70 then I'm happy to pay $150.
If the entry price is $140 then the rate for FS should be around $100/$120
In a brothel the girls are probably paid between $160/$220 per hour
FS means shower BBBJ CIM etc
In a massage place there is none of that
If I'm offered FS in a MP I've found i need to firm in negotiations
If we can't reach agreement and I decline some girls get pissed and ruin the remainder of the punt.
I know most of the parlour owners so I never complain
It just means I avoid some girls who are really cute but greedy

[Oosuki]

The most I've paid for fs for an ml was $150... never again my base is $100 and in certain situations $120 if they are hot and we already have good chemistry, keep in mind this is already with a $70 shop fee on top for the hour

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[Bredandwine]

Definitely max of $150 for me... Gotta love shops like Smithfield Sakura where it's more than often only $100. Just gotta find the young-ish gems there

[11Bravo]

This goes in cycles and then settles
The rate for FS In A Massage parlour depends on the shop entry price.
If the entry price is $70 then I'm happy to pay $150.
If the entry price is $140 then the rate for FS should be around $100/$120
In a brothel the girls are probably paid between $160/$220 per hour
FS means shower BBBJ CIM etc
In a massage place there is none of that
If I'm offered FS in a MP I've found i need to firm in negotiations
If we can't reach agreement and I decline some girls get pissed and ruin the remainder of the punt.
I know most of the parlour owners so I never complain
It just means I avoid some girls who are really cute but greedy

I'll agree on just about all in your post. As I've said, I follow the same guidelines as you. I have no trouble with "negotiations" in MP's; I understand they are independent contractors. You simply define the work and ask for a price quote. To me, no different than dealing with any other independent contractor: plumber, electrician, carpenter, handyman, collision damage repair. I always get at least 3 bids. I don't necessarily pick the lowest, and certainly more than likely to throw out the high unless there are reasons. But I don't call the high bid greedy - that's just his bid. I know what the work is worth to me. If it's an OTT bid... I understand really not interested in the job.

And if you've never been an independent contractor bidding on jobs, maybe you don't understand. You bid on what THAT job is worth to YOU. My bid too high? Fine, take a lower, but I don't consider it "greedy". It's MY bid for THAT job. Even if you're not a contractor, but a "salaryman". When you went to that job interview, you had a pay package in mind, a starting salary. If you came to an agreement, you took the job. If not, you kept looking. Hopefully, you did your research going in as to what average wages/benefits were for that work. Seems a lot of jobs in Ozland come with a "super"; don't think many MP or brothels do.

And if a girl "walks off the job", ruining the punt because MY FANTASY doesn't match HER REALITY? Doesn't bother me. I'm not happy, but as I always say, knowledge is expensive, and now I KNOW what her experience is like with ME. If you don't have a couple of "war stories", you've led a sheltered life.

[andrewv]

I don't know any massage shops that charge $70 an hour anymore. Maybe some do out west or south-west!!

Most are $90 or $100 without any extras. If you then add $120 for FS, the total is still $220 and this is less than the $300 the Japanese shops charge.

But as @BeardedClam said, at massage shops you don't get to shower with the girl or any of the nice small added extras.

For me, the extra $80 to pay the Japanese shops is a better deal, but not as frequently. In between just go to massage shops with NHJ.

[Clivus]

Does anyone notice any difference in attitude between ML and BLs? Do you find MLs hornier during FS because they aren’t doing it all day?

[jackdaniels]

Does anyone notice any difference in attitude between ML and BLs? Do you find MLs hornier during FS because they aren’t doing it all day?

I think there is some truth to that. It's why they feel they should charge a premium as well as it's not a regular service they perform throughout the day.

[GoldfishMan]

Does anyone notice any difference in attitude between ML and BLs? Do you find MLs hornier during FS because they aren’t doing it all day?

There's definitely a difference. ML sessions can change from session to session, but with a WL it's almost the same things that are done no matter how many times you see her.
Things tend to "escalate" with MLs, not so much with WLs although sometimes it does.

[Double_Adapter]

Does anyone notice any difference in attitude between ML and BLs? Do you find MLs hornier during FS because they aren’t doing it all day?

Yep, can't argue with that.... a bit like comparing a Thai ladyboy to a Japanese femboy, same yet different.

[11Bravo]

Does anyone notice any difference in attitude between ML and BLs? Do you find MLs hornier during FS because they aren’t doing it all day?
I wouldn't say "hornier", perhaps less tired. One thing to work on an assembly line, processing widgets, same repetitive tasks all day. Another when you can select what tasks you want to perform on that assembly line. I'd say many things go into that decision: repeat widget, potential repeat widget, Brad Pitt widget, non-repulsive widget, rent due, upcoming (provider) home visit...

[Candy1234]

Few years back $100 works out around $170 an hour which I think is reasonable, now days $150 on top of the shops fee… the pay raise is way better than most of us. $200+ an hour, one fuck? I rather fuck 2 ladies at a cheaper brothel these days.

[CharlieM]

Lately I always leave a Massage shop feeling unsatisfied. The ML will ask you if you want extras, then its a covered blow job at at the end of it they tell you "maybe next time I let you fuck me". Its as if they're doing you a favour. And so many princesses. I'll only go when I'm lazy and just want to drop a load as I have about 5 massage shops within walking distance.
For that satisfying hit its FS shops for me.

[laneeight]

im asked for around $100-$120 for FS during a 30 minute session that costs $50. this is south-west sydney. I never do longer than 30 minute sessions though so dont know if that would change their price.

[tcrawford]

Not sure why punters believe that sex with a ML should equate to the price of a session at a brothel? Would you apply this same pricing structure to sex with a sugar baby? What about the real price of sex with a non working girl once you factor all the dating expenses etc.

These are all different experiences, so if you are just after what you can get at a brothel, why even bother going to a massage parlour at all? Of course a brothel is the shortest, easiest and cheapest path to sex.

[94wreckers]

who cares how much theyre charging. I went in there to get something that i needed. The price of said item doesnt make me stop needing it.
Just pay the girl what she wants and do your business. All good to shop around for cheapies and maybe bargain alittle with the girl but this thread.... cmon now.

dont get me wrong. theres some beasts out there charging 300$.... its unjustified. But if shes a straight 10/10 id pay her 500 if she asked for it.

[Rastaman]

I agree with the notion of it being cyclical. Right now FS prices in Massage Parlours is on the rise. There also seems to be a real decline in massage skills, which is a shame because I actually like part one and only revisit skilled ML's.

I'm not one to haggle over price, so I see FS in Brothels as the better value option ATM. I can then always go get a legit professional massage afterwards.

It works out I'm paying only $20-40 more, but I get (30mins) top quality FS and (1hr) top quality massage. Which is much better than just 1hr of mediocre massage and Fs in a Massage Parlour.

To be fair I should say their are some ML out there who do offer a great massage and are so super hot, so I do have my short list of girls who I will pay the $150 on top. But it's a small list and getting smaller by the week.

[BeardedClam]

The most I've paid for fs for an ml was $150... never again my base is $100 and in certain situations $120 if they are hot and we already have good chemistry, keep in mind this is already with a $70 shop fee on top for the hour

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208 Stanmore shop entry is $75
Nice shop.Clean
Couple of glams on roster
FS Always negotiable and reasonable.Havent met anyone greedy

[11Bravo]

What about the real price of sex with a non working girl once you factor all the dating expenses etc.
Yea, I saw that movie. Tom Cruise very good, and the Porsche... still makes me smile.

[strongboi]

Yea, I saw that movie. Tom Cruise very good, and the Porsche... still makes me smile.

Risky business?

[Rlks1]

RNT’s are the biggest scam.

1/2 or 3/4 of the time slot is taken up by a below average or non existent massage, then charge through the roof for extras that are usuallt rushed and your ushered out leaving you 10 mins short. It happens more often now

The other day I was told $100 for BJ, and $120 for body slide. You’d think it was the other way around

[Double_Adapter]

RNT’s are the biggest scam.

1/2 or 3/4 of the time slot is taken up by a below average or non existent massage, then charge through the roof for extras that are usuallt rushed and your ushered out leaving you 10 mins short. It happens more often now

The other day I was told $100 for BJ, and $120 for body slide. You’d think it was the other way around

What the fuck bro? rub ’n tugs are basically amusement parks for big kids. Different entry fees, different kinds of rides, different thrills and lucky dips. Some are quick walk-ins, some are main attractions, and some you gotta line up for.

In your example, the BJ is basically the carnival laughing clown....you know, the one with the open mouth and the spinning head: quick, silly, and over before you know it. The other is the slip 'n slide: longer ride, more fun, bigger spectacle, and way more setup required.

At the end of the day, you’re not paying for what the ride is; you’re paying for how big and exciting the ride’s gonna be.

[dvu420]

Rates used to be around $100 for FS a couple of years back, but nowadays i almost always pay $150 (even at shops where I’ve paid for the HJ upfront).

[andrewv]

MLs have become like auctioneers. When you go to a property auction, the auctioneer is always trying to get the bid up by the biggest increments. Say by $50,000 or $20,000.
They don't like it when bidders slow down the process by offering just $5,000 more.... especially early in the auction process.

MLs have been quoting their extras in multiples of $50, where in fact punters can counter-offer in multiples of $20.

She says FS is $150 extra. If it is $120 that's $30 made by her or saved by you.

$30 more over $120 is an extra 25%....... and as many punters have said, she is making this in the last 15 or 20 minutes of the hour's session. Not bad income for her.

Maybe a better strategy is for us punters to not ask the ML for her menu of extras and prices, but to offer her what we want.

If halfway during the massage she asks, "do you want extras today?", don't ask what is on offer. Just reply and say something like, "I feel like sex right now. I have $100 or $120 if you want."

And in all cases, be prepared to go without. These women are clever because they are negotiating the extras with 8 to 12 men every fucking day, while we punters only do it once or twice a week.

[11Bravo]

Rates used to be around $100 for FS a couple of years back, but nowadays i almost always pay $150 (even at shops where IÂ’ve paid for the HJ upfront).

And as I've said many times, the latter is why I avoid the "included" shops; providers too often "forget" that "HJ paid to the desk" fee.


What the fuck bro? rub ’n tugs are basically amusement parks for big kids. Different entry fees, different kinds of rides, different thrills and lucky dips. Some are quick walk-ins, some are main attractions, and some you gotta line up for.

In your example, the BJ is basically the carnival laughing clown....you know, the one with the open mouth and the spinning head: quick, silly, and over before you know it. The other is the slip 'n slide: longer ride, more fun, bigger spectacle, and way more setup required.

At the end of the day, you’re not paying for what the ride is; you’re paying for how big and exciting the ride’s gonna be.
My analogy is wine. To some, wine is wine, a pitcher of table wine (you pay for what you drink) or a bottle from a specific area - all the same, so they prefer table. To others, the region matters so they order a bottle.

[Rastaman]

I think from now on I'll be negotiating from my couch on Wechat from the comfort of home. If the ML wants the work i'll make my way to the shop. Otherwise it's FS and Legit Massage joints for me from now on.

[Double_Adapter]

I think from now on I'll be negotiating from my couch on Wechat from the comfort of home. If the ML wants the work i'll make my way to the shop. Otherwise it's FS and Legit Massage joints for me from now on.

Hey bro, you should put out a formal public tender for the sexual services you are seeking and have all the WLs bid for it. Your tender should include stuff like:

Scope of Services:
Set out a clear schedule of services required e.g., fs, bareback, rimming, daty, dfk, filming, massage, date night etc

Timing:
Specify the required date(s), duration, and any relevant timeframes or deadlines.

Tenderer's Response Requirements:
Require the tenderer to clearly state any exclusions, limitations, or deviations from the scope of services.

Terms and Conditions:
Define the contractual terms and conditions governing the engagement.

Payment Terms:
Stipulate fees, payment method, and payment timing.

Liquidated Damages / Remedies:
Include any agreed consequences or remedies for non-performance or for services not rendered.

This frames the arrangement as a clear, structured contract with defined expectations on both sides.

[NC3]

30 minutes diamond service 150$ tip plus the shop money usually is 55$ to 60$
45 - - - 170$ - - - - - - - 70$ to 75$
60 - - - 190$ - - - - - - - 85$ to 90$

Also, the ml's get money from the shop money as well that is range from 5$ to 20$, it depends on the length of the session and the ml.
If the shop is 'included' then the tip is minus 50$. - Obviously if the ml will not offer diamond service the tip is much lower.

In general the tip for diamond service [ dfk, daty, fiv, bbbj, cfs - cim is 50/50 the possibilities to get in massage shops] is from 140$ minimum to 200$ very max, it depends on the length of the booking.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

RNT’s are the biggest scam.

1/2 or 3/4 of the time slot is taken up by a below average or non existent massage, then charge through the roof for extras that are usuallt rushed and your ushered out leaving you 10 mins short. It happens more often now



Happens at FS shops as well.

[NC3]

RNT’s are the biggest scam.

1/2 or 3/4 of the time slot is taken up by a below average or non existent massage, then charge through the roof for extras that are usuallt rushed and your ushered out leaving you 10 mins short. It happens more often now

The other day I was told $100 for BJ, and $120 for body slide. You’d think it was the other way around

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Why you leave the ml to control you?
In massages shops you have the Total Control, if the ml asking for extreme tips or her service - attitude are wrong , just stick with her average massage and then leave, you don't have to tip her, you gonna just lose the shop money. - Therefore I never visit 'included' massage shops, unless I know for sure that the ml is great.

[personaa]

Present your offer in the beginning. I am after Part 3 and I offer X amount, if she says no then nhj 50 extra and if she says no then its your lucky day, walk out or change . Its a win win situation unless you are with a greedy ML.

[Rlks1]

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Why you leave the ml to control you?
In massages shops you have the Total Control, if the ml asking for extreme tips or her service - attitude are wrong , just stick with her average massage and then leave, you don't have to tip her, you gonna just lose the shop money. - Therefore I never visit 'included' massage shops, unless I know for sure that the ml is great.

I don’t let it control me. This usually happens at new shops and I tick them off as “one and done”

I’ve just cut back going once a month now visiting the same person I have for the last 12 months

She does charge above standard rates but she makes up for it and I leave satisfied

Less money spent overall and after the last session after some time off, made it better than usual. She even agreed

[NC3]

Present your offer in the beginning. I am after Part 3 and I offer X amount, if she says no then nhj 50 extra and if she says no then its your lucky day, walk out or change . Its a win win situation unless you are with a greedy ML.

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exactly this, and if the ml is greedy then goodbye or stay only for massage. - As the ml can ask for any tip she thinks is right for her, the same applies for the customer, can accept, can leave [ just you lose the shop money ] or stay only for massage.
And as I have said above, Therefore I never visit 'included' massage shops, unless I know for sure that the ml is great.

[AHLUNGOR]

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Why you leave the ml to control you?
In massages shops you have the Total Control, if the ml asking for extreme tips or her service - attitude are wrong , just stick with her average massage and then leave, you don't have to tip her, you gonna just lose the shop money. - Therefore I never visit 'included' massage shops, unless I know for sure that the ml is great.


Hi there NC3,


I assume when you said "included" massage shops, you are referring to HJ is included, like 227 Broadway and 252 Stanmore, etc. But I do find them are usually well managed and ML standard services are more reliable. You get the nude hand job included and no question ask, sure, extras may be offered but most of the time I never take up and usually not affecting the attitude and happy ending. where if you have to negotiate about the nude HJ half way through, our $50 standard tip may or may not be enough these days.


Cheers.

[AHLUNGOR]

who cares how much theyre charging. I went in there to get something that i needed. The price of said item doesnt make me stop needing it.
Just pay the girl what she wants and do your business. All good to shop around for cheapies and maybe bargain alittle with the girl but this thread.... cmon now.

dont get me wrong. theres some beasts out there charging 300$.... its unjustified. But if shes a straight 10/10 id pay her 500 if she asked for it.


There is some merits there in your comments 94wrechers.

I am usually Not a big tipper and on the occasions when I paid for FS in a RnT shop, I hardly ever paid more than $100.

Having said that, throughout my punting journey in Sydney, I think I had paid $200 for FS in RnT shops on 4 different occasions, all in different shops and for different girls, just one thing in common, they were all very desirable and naturally busty (of course.........haha). Once was in the old Chequers with a Korean girl, back then the Korean massage was inclusive with the nude b2b and HJ. but this stunning Korean babe was one right out of the box with her naturally gifted race Queen body. I had the standard session once, and I knew immediately I had to come back and fuck her. so I came back the week after and asked for FS, $200 was the price and I had to pay her upfront, I knew the drill so I had my wallet with me anyway (you usually would leave your clothing and wallet in the shop lockers), it was sensational. Went back for more a couple of weeks later and she was gone for good !

another one was #18 at the Zanadu shop behind the Hilton, she has the all natural 36 Double D cups that I wanted But NO Spanish was possible, I had her a few times with the $50 for nude hand job and I asked for more, her price was $200, agreed and had my fun, back then, you didn't pay the girl for the tips, she would tell the reception how much tips you were going to pay and you paid the reception, still remember the cheeky smile on the receptionist face when she told me the "doi gee" (meaning pay on behalf) was $200.

Two more times I had to pay $200 was more recently and prefer not to name the MLs. again, it's one of those moment that after seeing them multiple times, I told myself I need to be inside her, even just for the one time, so I made the offer rather than asking for extras. the scene was: I handed over the shop fees, then the $200 with the condom and asked: can we make love today? and the deal was done. unfortunately, in both occasions I was either already getting old, or the excitement of finally fucking them was too great, I didn't last too long, the fun was so short lived, it was nearly $1.00 per second....................lol

my final words, if you think that she is worth it, go for it. But this should be reserved for the special lady that you feel that you must have. otherwise, you all know where are the usually better value for money places.

Cheers

[11Bravo]

Seems simple enough to me. Value is what you're willing to pay for something. For me, Rolex, easy pass; Casio fine. Montblanc pen, no thanks, my space pen (writes anywhere, on anything) value for me. Designer pants? Sure, if Levi 501's you consider designer (an ounce of steel where it counts), on sale, pristine. Holes, tears, rips from honest wear and tear, none of this BS "distressed". Tony the Tiger, saw a box yesterday, on sale, bought. Expensive for what you get, but value for me; it was available and hadn't had it for a long time.

Punting? No need to "man up", play games with "only have $100 in my wallet". What I have in MY wallet is my business. "This is what I pay." Hell, that's a GIVEN; I don't feel the need to explicitly state up front unless asked. Because I know what the going rate is, in SYD, BKK, elsewhere. And I know, for ANYONE, the value of knowing what her experience is like with me. NOT wondering, knowing. I have a good idea before walking in the shop; certainly I know what I'm looking for with her and how much it's worth to me as soon as I walk into the room. Whether I ask about extras at the beginning, or whether I wait for her to ask on the flip. Makes no difference. I know my ceiling with her. If I get for that price, great (better even a lower quote). But I don't go Bondi if it's high. I just say "no thank you", and see if we can come to a mutual agreement. Maybe that, or drop down a "class" (FS becomes oral, B2B, Spanish) at my rates, "value" for me. Because I know what I've already invested - time, travel expenses. In decades, only a handful when it was a walk. And I don't pay OTT. But if her experience with me is just a walk, then so be it. Now I KNOW. All part of the game.

Seems too many want the perfect peach, unblemished, fresh, young, and wind up whining when they buy plastic.

Too many royals here, afraid of being poisoned, so need a taster before they try. Reminds me of trying to feed something new to a 6 year old. "I don't like that." You've never had, just try a bite. "No, no, I don't like it". Then they see their friends eating, so OK, maybe they'll like, maybe they won't, but at least they'll try. I've seen posts on shops with new, untried, "younger" talent. They're there, but if they've been tried, unknown. Yes, it's a risk, but that's how you find the gems. Or not... It's you who decides VALUE, no one else.

[GoldfishMan]

Present your offer in the beginning. I am after Part 3 and I offer X amount, if she says no then nhj 50 extra and if she says no then its your lucky day, walk out or change . Its a win win situation unless you are with a greedy ML.

Why don't you just ask her how much was her price and just say No if it was more than your X amount?
I don't see any benefit with revealing that number. If anything it could backfire on you and you wouldn't even know it.

[blitz]

who cares how much theyre charging. I went in there to get something that i needed. The price of said item doesnt make me stop needing it.
Just pay the girl what she wants and do your business. All good to shop around for cheapies and maybe bargain alittle with the girl but this thread.... cmon now.

dont get me wrong. theres some beasts out there charging 300$.... its unjustified. But if shes a straight 10/10 id pay her 500 if she asked for it.
100% agree with this. If I go into a massage shop without a booking my only expectation is a massage and blow my load. How I achieve said load blowing depends entirely on the look and the vibe I'm getting with the girl.
If she's super hot and we are getting along really well, then I'll pay whatever she wants to fuck her. I'm not going to be a tight arse and deny myself the pleasure of fucking a smoking hot young girl.
Perfect example, I had been seeing a young, hot Thai girl regularly. I asked her for sex from the very first visit but she always declined. It was about my 5th visit and on the flip i asked "are you going to have sex with me today?".
She responded with "how much?". I said $200. She said why not $300?. I said ok.
She then said "but I'm on my period". I said I don't mind if you don't.
So she went and asked another girl for a condom and we fucked. In the end there was barely any mess and the sex was just as good as I hoped it would be.

[11Bravo]

100% agree with this. If I go into a massage shop without a booking my only expectation is a massage and blow my load. How I achieve said load blowing depends entirely on the look and the vibe I'm getting with the girl.
If she's super hot and we are getting along really well, then I'll pay whatever she wants to fuck her. I'm not going to be a tight arse and deny myself the pleasure of fucking a smoking hot young girl.
Perfect example, I had been seeing a young, hot Thai girl regularly. I asked her for sex from the very first visit but she always declined. It was about my 5th visit and on the flip i asked "are you going to have sex with me today?".
She responded with "how much?". I said $200. She said why not $300?. I said ok.
She then said "but I'm on my period". I said I don't mind if you don't.
So she went and asked another girl for a condom and we fucked. In the end there was barely any mess and the sex was just as good as I hoped it would be.

Great story. Moral of this story? Boy Scout - be prepared, always carry your own condoms.

[dewayne]

My method that I've posted about a few times is, pay the house fee up front (if it's one of those $50-$60 type places), then when the girl comes in to get started, hand her 2 pineapples and say "this is for you"

This has nearly always led to FS without additional charge. Sometimes one more pineapple is necessary. Never been more than that though. And I think the ML probably appreciate the quick donation because haggling over the price of your own body several times a day has to fucking suck

[DayMan69]

I used to love SBM, SGM, 227 Broadway and Dreamgirl... but most girls are now asking $150 on top of the $140 shop fee. Some ask more but I'm oh my gosh i only have $150 on me, sorry, next time...and they all come down to $150. I like tha massage and 30 minutes of solid sex is enough for me.

Annoying.
All generally have stunners working there so I occasionally pony up - I'm at an age where the pleasure of banging a 25yr old glamour is worth it.... but my regular shops are now Summerville, Artarmon and 197 Clarence. $150 on top of the shop fee for a hottie. Probably cheaper in the burbs for a milf but meh.

[Travel420]

I used to love SBM, SGM, 227 Broadway and Dreamgirl... but most girls are now asking $150 on top of the $140 shop fee. Some ask more but I'm oh my gosh i only have $150 on me, sorry, next time...and they all come down to $150. I like tha massage and 30 minutes of solid sex is enough for me.

Annoying.
All generally have stunners working there so I occasionally pony up - I'm at an age where the pleasure of banging a 25yr old glamour is worth it.... but my regular shops are now Summerville, Artarmon and 197 Clarence. $150 on top of the shop fee for a hottie. Probably cheaper in the burbs for a milf but meh.

Which is your shop of choice in Artarmon?

[DayMan69]

Which is your shop of choice in Artarmon?

Above the chicken shop or deli type place, opposite the train station entrance. Heaven, heavenly somthing like that

[Themassageking]

My rule of thumb is i try to stay away from shops that have the extra 50 in their prices. Eg. 30 minutes $105. Because some girls will still try to charge the same rate as a shop with the massage price up front. 30 minutes I only do bj. 1hr then fs and bj. Eg 30 minutes is $55-60 for shop fee then I'll only pay $100 for bbbj, 1 hr $150 for bbbj plus fs. If its one of those other shops then I drop the price by $50.
I always ask what the fee is and if they can't do for that price then I walk and i tell them fun first and massage later if we have time and i never have time. Lol