Anyone having serious relationship with a ML?

[Lostinblonde]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

[Jacocoo]

Never had a serious one ,went out for few months with a Japanese girl outside the bookings. Told her upfront I am fuckin broke and won't help her with any visa/PR stuff. She was ok with it as she did not wanted to stay here.

I guess tell her how broke you are and you can't help her with any visa situation she might have. You will see the true colours.

[Wayne]

Never had a serious one ,went out for few months with a Japanese girl outside the bookings. Told her upfront I am fuckin broke and won't help her with any visa/PR stuff. She was ok with it as she did not wanted to stay here.

I guess tell her how broke you are and you can't help her with any visa situation she might have. You will see the true colours.

That’s a good approach. Always best to be up front. So often the girls are lonely and bored. They appreciate the friendship as much as anything.

[johncitizen]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that IÂ’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. IÂ’m on the other side not sureÂ… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

We can share similar experiences, but treat them with caution. Some of us have had positive ones, others will say things like “never fall in love with an ML/WL”. The negative experiences might discourage you to pursue what would actually be a good relationship.

YouÂ’ve probably already done this, but perhaps ask yourself why you are having doubts about settling down with her. Is it because she is an ML? Is it because you want to leave your options open and play the field/continue seeing other MLs? What are the differences between you? And more importantly, are any of those differences deal breakers for you or her?

Good luck.

[andrewv]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

Her history will always be an issue at the back of your mind. The only women that end up in successful long term relationships are the ones who close off the past and start relationships with men who they never tell about what they did.

This is not an issue of her "willing to settle down". Keep in mind that women often know that a marriage or long term relationship will come to an end years later. It is men who tend to be trusting and do not think ahead.

[blitz]

Chad Thundercock is gonna be all over this.

[Nelly69]

Her history will always be an issue at the back of your mind. The only women that end up in successful long term relationships are the ones who close off the past and start relationships with men who they never tell about what they did.

This is not an issue of her "willing to settle down". Keep in mind that women often know that a marriage or long term relationship will come to an end years later. It is men who tend to be trusting and do not think ahead.

I think it will also go the other way around as well, if you met at a massage shop. The ML is going to be suspicious of you going to get a HE if you are late at work or smells different even after she has finished up at the shop.

I know someone who went out with a ML and she forbid him from getting a massage with a Happy Ending even though she still works at a shop. Her rationale is that its a job for her, and its not a job for him.

I don't know, but if my missus is getting naked and getting someone off 8 times a day and thinks its ok. then I don't see the problem with him getting a happy ending once a while by another girl...

This is the kind of mess up thinking you have to consider. also doesn't help when you read their good review here. hahaha.

Best of luck.

[andrewv]

I think it will also go the other way around as well, if you met at a massage shop. The ML is going to be suspicious of you going to get a HE if you are late at work or smells different even after she has finished up at the shop.

I know someone who went out with a ML and she forbid him from getting a massage with a Happy Ending even though she still works at a shop. Her rationale is that its a job for her, and its not a job for him.

I don't know, but if my missus is getting naked and getting someone off 8 times a day and thinks its ok. then I don't see the problem with him getting a happy ending once a while by another girl...

This is the kind of mess up thinking you have to consider. also doesn't help when you read their good review here. hahaha.

Best of luck.

Yep... very true.

Your comment "if my missus is getting naked and getting someone off 8 times a day" is graphic....
If a man gets home to his partner and hopes she has washed her hands after 8 different men ejaculated on them earlier that date... I would find this too gross, and it would be time to find another woman who earns much more doing a job that does not involve men blowing off their rocks on her.

[11Bravo]

The questions I'd ask are "Why is she here?" "What is the money for?"

You get those answered, and all the bs about her past history, just like your past history, is immaterial. It's what's in the future that counts.

And know it's not like the "west". Here, you leave home, you leave home. Ma & Pa take care of themselves; they're headed for the old folks home. Asian style - your home will have a good size room with full bath for them, for visits or permanent residence. They're family. Only question is, will you ever be seen as such or simply as an ATM.

[ChadThunderrcock]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

Hey brother, you cannot attract and court a normal civilian girl? I know most punters are ugly. But are you really that old, fat, ugly and undesirable in real life that you have to resort to dating a sex worker?

These girls are low hanging fruit. Literally any man on the street who has $200-$300 in his pockets has access to your "girlfriends" pussy.

Only a very Low-Value man would date a sex worker/ML/WL/Hooker/Prostitute.

[rubit moore]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

Oh this ‘ole chestnut again..!

Don’t fucking do it man. But I think you’ve already come to that conclusion.

If you feel she’d need counselling afterwards, PM me her name and shop. Happy to help out. Least i can do. Got ya back bro. One Love.

[HiredGoon]

Hey brother, you cannot attract and court a normal civilian girl? I know most punters are ugly. But are you really that old, fat, ugly and undesirable in real life that you have to resort to dating a sex worker?

These girls are low hanging fruit. Literally any man on the street who has $200-$300 in his pockets has access to your "girlfriends" pussy.

Only a very Low-Value man would date a sex worker/ML/WL/Hooker/Prostitute.

Keep doing your thing BambaClot. Love it. Have you thought about a podcast?

[tcrawford]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.


Does she do P3 and are you cool with that?

By settle down you mean she will quit working?

[Becareful]

Rare agreement with ChadThundercock from me. Why the fuck would you choose to date a WL/ML. It seems ludicrous.

A sex doll would be better because at least you know you are the only that's been with it. Imagine walking around with a prostitute on the streets while old guys are eyeing her not because she is attractive but its cause they had sex with her before. Or even worse that guy inviting people to his wedding and her telling him that she had sex with his friends, uncles or nephews sitting in the corner...

[Double_Adapter]

Hey brother, you cannot attract and court a normal civilian girl? I know most punters are ugly. But are you really that old, fat, ugly and undesirable in real life that you have to resort to dating a sex worker?

These girls are low hanging fruit. Literally any man on the street who has $200-$300 in his pockets has access to your "girlfriends" pussy.

Only a very Low-Value man would date a sex worker/ML/WL/Hooker/Prostitute.

ChadTC loves these kinds of threads and can't help himself....straight in like a fucken blowfly to a warm turd.

But on the flip side, only a very low value woman would fall for a bloke who pays for sex, who cheats on his missus, lies about his infidelities, and sneaks around hiding his sexual proclivities. So really, the WL and the punter are made for each other. Which begs the question: why aren’t there more WL-punter relationships?

Hidden gems, hidden relationships..... what's fucken next!

[Wayne]

The reasons women go into prostitution are many and varied. And it takes all sorts. Problem is, I reckon, the preconceived notions people have of working girls from popular stereotypes. Yeah, some of the girls are gold diggers, some are victims of sexual abuse, some are coerced, and lots doing it just as an easy way to make quick money. I’ve made some great friends over my years of punting with women with hearts of gold. I wouldn’t prejudge a woman just because she has worked in a brothel. If the two of you communicate and find you care for each other then the relationship is just as likely to work out as any other.

[johncitizen]

The reasons women go into prostitution are many and varied. And it takes all sorts. Problem is, I reckon, the preconceived notions people have of working girls from popular stereotypes. Yeah, some of the girls are gold diggers, some are victims of sexual abuse, some are coerced, and lots doing it just as an easy way to make quick money. I’ve made some great friends over my years of punting with women with hearts of gold. I wouldn’t prejudge a woman just because she has worked in a brothel. If the two of you communicate and find you care for each other then the relationship is just as likely to work out as any other.

Well said. I agree.

[keebab]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

If you are, don't tell anyone on this forum.

Last thing you want to do is doxx your missus around a bunch of blokes looking for the cheapest prices and access to BBFS.

[Becareful]

The reasons women go into prostitution are many and varied. And it takes all sorts. Problem is, I reckon, the preconceived notions people have of working girls from popular stereotypes. Yeah, some of the girls are gold diggers, some are victims of sexual abuse, some are coerced, and lots doing it just as an easy way to make quick money. IÂ’ve made some great friends over my years of punting with women with hearts of gold. I wouldnÂ’t prejudge a woman just because she has worked in a brothel. If the two of you communicate and find you care for each other then the relationship is just as likely to work out as any other.

The last part especially is what people need to understand. Heaps of people are delusional and I find it funny how alot of guys think they actually care about them when in reality they even said its embarrassing to walk outside with old or gross guys so why do alot of them keep asking to meet outside all the time when they are just acting. Especially alot of japanese sex workers called these guys losers and pathetic thinking their smiles are real and they have to pretend they care just to waste time.

https://youtu.be/G4JYFkvR0XM?si=uL4ZkBmYTCV6gkzb

[11Bravo]

The reasons women go into prostitution are many and varied. And it takes all sorts. Problem is, I reckon, the preconceived notions people have of working girls from popular stereotypes. Yeah, some of the girls are gold diggers, some are victims of sexual abuse, some are coerced, and lots doing it just as an easy way to make quick money. I’ve made some great friends over my years of punting with women with hearts of gold. I wouldn’t prejudge a woman just because she has worked in a brothel. If the two of you communicate and find you care for each other then the relationship is just as likely to work out as any other.

Very well said.

I'll politely disagree on the "as an easy way to make quick money", because it's a bitter way, degrading, not easy at all. Easy? Go be an expat, away from home, family, friends... But like you say, I've made some great friends, some of the nicest women. If it was me, I'd be so bitter, seething... but any number I've met... "that's life, supporting my family, doing what I have to do." I'd say too many boys here would simply run down to CentreLink, where's my money, where's my support? Whine, whine, whine. My view, it's who you want in the trenches with you when the shit hits the fan, because they're not cutting and running, they've got your back. You don't know providers like that? Your loss. If nothing else, has taught me to be humble, to appreciate what I've got, and the breaks I've had. Thank God my 1st world bit was set when I was born; others not so lucky.

[Denny 2020]

Lots of red flags... Used to party etc. Is she still working?

[ditchtheboss]

Very interesting comments. Those folks who talk the WLs down and berate them and call them low value like Thunder something or whatever his name is actually show that have never been out of a shop with the girls. It is clear to me in this thread who has actually met them outside the shops. I have been in long situationships with a few and the ones I met are strong, determined, tough, persistent and have more gumption than most losers here. They are not weak or low quality women. Yes they have chosen a difficult path and in relation to that I doubt that these low value guys here have what it takes to put up with the physical and mental stresses they go through.

If a relationship works out, good luck and all the best but in my experience it is a long shot. The girls very clearly separate their private lives and relationships from their work, most boys don’t and they create fantasies and problems arise. Just one clear example, in a relationship with a WL from her perspective her work has nothing to do with the relationship, her emotions and her heart. The problem is that we met them in a brothel and for her there is always a suspicion that once the guy is there he will always go back and they dont like that. It sounds ironic but it is not, it is a matter of perspective. She wanted me to be hers and not anybody else’s but she doesn’t see her work as giving herself to others. So here lies one of the biggest challenges and it is almost irreconcilable. For the guy, when you are not at home you will worried about her working behind your back to make some more money.

So for the losers and arrogant men here, entitled and who take our benefit of being born I the first world for granted, you are spoiled and don’t have what it takes to survive one day going through the mental and physical stress they go through.

After long situationships with a couple of WLs I strongly recommend that the best advice from the legendary rooter still holds. Pay, fuck and leave, it is best for the both of you.

[DayMan69]

Concur with your post Bravo.
I've been in this game for more than 20 years now and the vast majority of regulars I've gotten to know are hard-working, stoic, decent people. It humbles me and has made me a far less judgemental cock when I think of the challenges these girls overcome to get here and do the work they do. Their attutude in the main seems to be it's hard work, but so's anything that pays well. They shrug and get on with it. Unlike us western cunts with strong social welfare nets.

The successful girls seem to treat it as period in life where they work hard with a big goal in mind. Some examples:
1. Thai girl bought old shop in Nimman, Chang Mai and turned it into a very cool coffee and pastry shop run by her mother and sister. I paid a sneaky visit last year. Brilliant place.
2. Thai girl has set up tourist accomodation in southern Thailand on family land...didn't pay a visit lol, but apparently succesful. She also has an apartment in Bangkok she's paying off.
3. Chinese girl was on to her 3rd investment property back home when i met her... probably not going so well now...
4. Thai girl now has 2 shops here in Sydney. Doing VERY well. Great work ethic, great woman to have on your side her friends tell me.
5. Viet girl paid her way through difficult degree here in Sydney, now has PR and a good starter job in finance industry.
6. Japanese girl doing uni in Japan came down here regularly to finance studies, now owns a retail store in Tokyo somewhere and paying off apartment on her own. Still comes back for a stint to smash the mortgage for a couple of months.

Tough industry and not all rosy stories I'm sure

To OPs question. I used to be firmly on the side of don't do it. But in general, civilian marriage doesn't seem that permanent either. Are you a similar age? Have similar life goals? If you're old and she's young, then no, you're just PR or an ATM. But if you, and i mean you, can get your head around it and your girl is afore-mentionded stoic type, then, hey, give it a shot.

I know 2 relationships where a regular has done the marriage with punter thing. Both relationships still working, both have kids and a life here. Who knows? Neither still in industry but.

[AHLUNGOR]

The successful girls seem to treat it as period in life where they work hard with a big goal in mind. Some examples:
1. Thai girl bought old shop in Nimman, Chang Mai and turned it into a very cool coffee and pastry shop run by her mother and sister. I paid a sneaky visit last year. Brilliant place.
2. Thai girl has set up tourist accomodation in southern Thailand on family land...didn't pay a visit lol, but apparently succesful. She also has an apartment in Bangkok she's paying off.
3. Chinese girl was on to her 3rd investment property back home when i met her... probably not going so well now...
4. Thai girl now has 2 shops here in Sydney. Doing VERY well. Great work ethic, great woman to have on your side her friends tell me.
5. Viet girl paid her way through difficult degree here in Sydney, now has PR and a good starter job in finance industry.
6. Japanese girl doing uni in Japan came down here regularly to finance studies, now owns a retail store in Tokyo somewhere and paying off apartment on her own. Still comes back for a stint to smash the mortgage for a couple of months.

Tough industry and not all rosy stories I'm sure

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Hi DayMan69,


Thanks for sharing, first thing first, many of the current owners of popular and successful RnT shops were working MLs themselves just a few years back, I personally had seen many of them during their working days and now they are all successful business women, of course, many are way ahead of the pack and for all you old timers, we probably would know a few common acquaintances.

But I do have one particular special lady to share:

Melissa was her working name when she was in Elizabeth Street, the Caucasian RnT shop Impression (now Ginza Empire), very busty Aussie brunette making a lot of money. She used to tell me many older Chinese businessmen would offer her 4 figure sum to fuck her, some even bought her real gold jewelleries.


I only had the pleasure of seeing her a couple of times and I stopped going there and concentrated on At Michelle's in Bondi Junction a many years later.

Then one day I was told there is a very busty new girl Cindy starting in AT so I gave her a try, it was Melissa no less and although she didn't remember me, when I mentioned Impressions and she opened up and we talked like old friends.

She told me she basically has retired and owning half a dozen investment rental properties all fully paid off so she can live a comfortable life off her rental income. I asked why are you still working ?
She said she loves to play with cocks and she is still young to be fully retired, life would be too boring. I thought she looked like in her 40's back then, her big tits had sagged quite a bit but her body slides and Spanish are still top of the class. she also told me she loves to fuck young men, especially those 18-20 years old from Indonesia! she said her chosen "toyboys" can fuck all day all night and got hard again, again and again. she went to Jakarta with a network of friends and they would introduce young studs for her to sample, she picked the one she likes and sponsor them to travel to Sydney for a "working" holiday and used them like sex-slaves.

True story !

Cheers


ps. I never had FS with her..............lol
ps2. I was tempting back in Impression days when she was in her prime, but never asked as most likely out of my reach

[schloong]

Interesting reading here thanks gents...

[DayMan69]

Ha, nice story sir A!

You meet some absolute crackers in this world. I always laugh when i hear the ' women aren't as horny as men' thing. They just get sick of regular sex with us and because they don't need that physical release as much they just stop.

I met an older Asian woman in a drummoyne brothel many years ago and enjoyed regular full on sessions with her and occasionally she'd bring in an offsider, but give her the money instead of me getting charged for 2 women. I asked her why once and she said she loved fucking and didnt need the $$.

It was true, i bumped into her in the first class lounge at Syd airport once with her asian hubby. My company was paying for me but she was paying retail. She told me she had investment properties all over the inner west. We looked at each with no glimmer of recognition from either party. Classic.

All i could think of was her eating my ass and getting an absolute railing from me followed by her slurping every last drop of cum from my limp dick the previous Friday.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Very interesting comments. Those folks who talk the WLs down and berate them and call them low value like Thunder something or whatever his name is actually show that have never been out of a shop with the girls. It is clear to me in this thread who has actually met them outside the shops. I have been in long situationships with a few and the ones I met are strong, determined, tough, persistent and have more gumption than most losers here. They are not weak or low quality women. Yes they have chosen a difficult path and in relation to that I doubt that these low value guys here have what it takes to put up with the physical and mental stresses they go through.



I never said these girls were low quality. I said the men who date them are very Low-Value men.

I still stand by what I said. No one is forcing these girls to work as WL's/ML's. They can easily just work at Maccas or Kmart. Or go to school to get a degree and work in some professional field like every other normal girl.

But they chose to do it for quick and easy money where they can make more that a normal job. They chose the field knowing full well the "physical and mental stresses" it will entail.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Concur with your post Bravo.
I've been in this game for more than 20 years now and the vast majority of regulars I've gotten to know are hard-working, stoic, decent people. It humbles me and has made me a far less judgemental cock when I think of the challenges these girls overcome to get here and do the work they do. Their attutude in the main seems to be it's hard work, but so's anything that pays well. They shrug and get on with it. Unlike us western cunts with strong social welfare nets.

The successful girls seem to treat it as period in life where they work hard with a big goal in mind. Some examples:
1. Thai girl bought old shop in Nimman, Chang Mai and turned it into a very cool coffee and pastry shop run by her mother and sister. I paid a sneaky visit last year. Brilliant place.
2. Thai girl has set up tourist accomodation in southern Thailand on family land...didn't pay a visit lol, but apparently succesful. She also has an apartment in Bangkok she's paying off.
3. Chinese girl was on to her 3rd investment property back home when i met her... probably not going so well now...
4. Thai girl now has 2 shops here in Sydney. Doing VERY well. Great work ethic, great woman to have on your side her friends tell me.
5. Viet girl paid her way through difficult degree here in Sydney, now has PR and a good starter job in finance industry.
6. Japanese girl doing uni in Japan came down here regularly to finance studies, now owns a retail store in Tokyo somewhere and paying off apartment on her own. Still comes back for a stint to smash the mortgage for a couple of months.

Tough industry and not all rosy stories I'm sure



What a load of crap. Is this what these girls have told you?

The Thai and Viet girls are all doing it to support their kids, family and dead-beat husbands/boyfriends back in their home country while telling you Old, Bald, Fat Farangs that she is "single".

The Chinese girl is doing it to buy her luxury products and hopefully be able to marry an Aussie for a Visa/PR.

The Japanese girl is doing it to support her host and to pay off her host club debts.

[priapus1966]

A lot of generalizations and judgmental comment in this thread. I worked as an expat in East Asia and UK for some 30 years and see very little value in examining the motives of either punters or providers. I just think that if we as punters are kind and treat the women who serve us well and courteously, many wonderful experiences and friendships will follow. But at the end we leave, graciously and gratefully I hope.

[NC3]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that IÂ’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. IÂ’m on the other side not sureÂ… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

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If she is still working in massage shop the relationship cannot be serious, is not serious - If she has quitted the adult field and seriously wants to find work or study something [ can be both at the same time] then yes you can consider staying with her. - Has good personality, she is pretty ... good combination indeed. ---Also, to go out with your friends to dance [ no to be drunk ] in clubs is beautiful, nothing wrong with that.

[Jeaso]

I never said these girls were low quality. I said the men who date them are very Low-Value men.

I still stand by what I said. No one is forcing these girls to work as WL's/ML's. They can easily just work at Maccas or Kmart. Or go to school to get a degree and work in some professional field like every other normal girl.

But they chose to do it for quick and easy money where they can make more that a normal job. They chose the field knowing full well the "physical and mental stresses" it will entail.

I mean if they start the relationship and say ''alright I will stop working here and go work at Kmart or whatever'' then hey that's showing promise for this to work out right?
But overall, I think it is hard for some of these women as they have limited English, and so not many legitimate businesses that pay somewhat decent would hire these girls given their qualifications, plus if they're on a student visa (which most of them are) it also limits their hours.

Plus let's face it, if guys could do this job instead, then all of us would be doing it way past retirement age and none of us would be in an office or at a construction site.

Like many have said, I think if you set up boundaries at the beginning and see where that takes you over time, then you gauge whether this relationship will be worth it.
If there will be many fights and different type of jealous outbursts then it obviously won't work, but like any relationship, if you're both willing to make it work, then why not?

[Candy1234]

How cute, just like hearing love stories on here… could be a sick kdrama plot.

I’ve been out with a few for dinner as friends, yes they’re as normal as “normal” can be according to society. I guess it can be easy to cope some feels since you already know her inside and out. Good luck with it all, nice to see a happy ending 😉 😉

[johncitizen]

The successful girls seem to treat it as period in life where they work hard with a big goal in mind.

And when they reach that big goal, they can truthfully say that they sucked a lot of cock to get where they are.

[Double_Adapter]

And when they reach that big goal, they can truthfully say that they sucked a lot of cock to get where they are.

Some chicks suck cocks while others fuck their bosses to reach their big goal. Blokes will kiss and sniff ass all day, while others will happily bend over and get screwed just to reach their big goal. At the end of the day we're all whores selling our bodies, our time, and our skills for a fistful of dollars. The only difference is some use a masssge table while others an office desk. So is the goal really worth it or does the journey fuck you up before you get there?

[11Bravo]

Dating is one thing, a serious relationship is another. And with a working girl, a whole lot more.

I totally agree with the above post that providers compartmentalize: clients in one, personal relationships in another. In the former, she's an actress; GFE is just a role. In the latter, she will expect what everyone expects in a real relationship, support.

Think you need to decide on whether or not it bothers you she's still selling sex. And would she be willing to quit?


NO, doesn't bother. OK. But are you prepared to provide her the mental and emotional support of a civilian relationship? Think most of us, when we come home from work, will talk about our day with our partner, the good AND the bad. Can you handle that? Offer her support? Or just cut her off because you really don't want to hear about it.


YES, does bother. OK. You want her to quit, take a civilian job. Fair enough; she just might be happy with that too. BUT you're asking her to take a salary cut to be in a relationship with you. Are you prepared for some reciprocity, a salary cut of your own? Because, at least with all the ones I know, a chunk of that money is going home to family. So are you willing to financially support her to offset at least some of her loss? She's financially sacrificing for you; will you do the same for her?

Up to you to decide. Is it the ego trip of being seen with her, hearing the compliments, spending casual time with her? Or is she a REAL person, one you might want a future with? Are BOTH of you wanting to settle down with the other? Because, remember, a working girl has a shelf life, and depending on her immigration status, an in-country life. She is aware of both. Perhaps you're a method to extend that, perhaps not.

Lesson learned a LONG time ago: never promise nor imply a future that you can't deliver. Scars to both.

[johncitizen]

So is the goal really worth it or does the journey fuck you up before you get there?

The journey definitely fucks you up. But if the goal is worth it, you will put up with it to get there.

[Double_Adapter]

Lesson learned a LONG time ago: never promise nor imply a future that you can't deliver. Scars to both.

I heard something similar
- Never make decisions when you're sad
- Never reply when you're angry
- Never make promises when you're happy

[johncitizen]

Lesson learned a LONG time ago: never promise nor imply a future that you can't deliver. Scars to both.

Sage advice.

[GoldfishMan]

I mean if they start the relationship and say ''alright I will stop working here and go work at Kmart or whatever'' then hey that's showing promise for this to work out right?

How about they say "alright I will stop working."?
I know we don't want them working in this trade anymore. They're all yours. But when it comes to the cost of making that happen, are you ready to bear it? Is your criteria "stop working this trade" or actually "stop working this trade but work another low paying trade so I don't have to support you and get to fuck you for free"?

[11Bravo]

Plus let's face it, if guys could do this job instead, then all of us would be doing it way past retirement age and none of us would be in an office or at a construction site.
Paid to have sex? Yea, methinks NOT, based on all the whines here. "Oh, she's old, 30 at least. Whoa... too heavy. No way, she's natural, not shaven. Too much of a belly..." Because with things turned around, it's you servicing the, should we say, less than desirable. The equivalents of the OBFF. The job is sex for money, and while you can choose who you see, I think very few see Brad Pitt types, so the equivalent is not so many Uni SYT's. It's the MILF's, GILF's, etc., etc. DATY to your hearts content on any snatch that walks in - oops, where's the dental dam? And I'd think they'd want a true orgasm, not the FOAM you hear, not really caring if you yourself get off. If your job, the way you put a roof over your head, food in your belly, support your family, is based on the number of clients you have, then your "freedom of choice" is limited, expanding to the wider female population.

Simple. Just imagine EVERY one that you've turned down, walked away from, ran away from, now... they're your meal ticket. But maybe I misunderstood.

[ChadThunderrcock]

How about they say "alright I will stop working."?
I know we don't want them working in this trade anymore. They're all yours. But when it comes to the cost of making that happen, are you ready to bear it? Is your criteria "stop working this trade" or actually "stop working this trade but work another low paying trade so I don't have to support you and get to fuck you for free"?

It seems alot of you on here are seriously lacking any social skills and game. And your only way to meet a girl is to pay for a girls time in a brothel/MP, just for her to spend time and talk with you.

Instead of asking her to "stop working" as a WL/ML, why don't you all just go out, meet and pick up girls the normal way. Like in a library, bar, school, work, restaurant or night club. Where people would naturally meet other people. Just go up to a girl you like and say "Hi".

That way, you will fuck for free and are not expected to support her financially.

[11Bravo]

It seems alot of you on here are seriously lacking any social skills and game. And your only way to meet a girl is to pay for a girls time in a brothel/MP, just for her to spend time and talk with you.

Instead of asking her to "stop working" as a WL/ML, why don't you all just go out, meet and pick up girls the normal way. Like in a library, bar, school, work, restaurant or night club. Where people would naturally meet other people. Just go up to a girl you like and say "Hi".

That way, you will fuck for free and are not expected to support her financially.

No argument, but if it's a bar, and she happens to be a BFL, what, I should automatically exclude her? Or the girl helping me pick out fresh vegetables (you can't fool me, vegetables come in cans) at the supermarket, what happens if she turns out to be working in an MP? Seems you're excluding a group just by their profession, not by their character. And for those who think "good character" equates to a civilian job, why are there so many divorces with said civilians?

Guess you haven't seen the movie Risky Business...

[Double_Adapter]

It seems alot of you on here are seriously lacking any social skills and game. And your only way to meet a girl is to pay for a girls time in a brothel/MP, just for her to spend time and talk with you.

Instead of asking her to "stop working" as a WL/ML, why don't you all just go out, meet and pick up girls the normal way. Like in a library, bar, school, work, restaurant or night club. Where people would naturally meet other people. Just go up to a girl you like and say "Hi".

That way, you will fuck for free and are not expected to support her financially.

A chick especially an attractive one, can score a root pretty much anywhere, anytime, and with anyone she wants. That’s the power and magnetic pull of the pussy. As she ages (and chicks age like milk) that pussy loses its appeal and magnetic pull.

A bloke, on the other hand, can pull some chicks (and in rare cases many chicks - especially if he looks like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth), but he's gotta put in a lot of time, effort, energy, and resources to make it happen. For a chick, it can take minutes to score a root; for a bloke, it can take days, weeks, or even months (or years, for the real simps).

If you quantified all that time, effort, energy, and resources and converted it into a dollar figure, you’d probably find that $150 for a guaranteed root is actually a bargain.

The real issue isn’t the rub 'n tugs, the brothels, or the WLs/MLs...it’s the blokes who visit these joints looking for love, relationships or “the one”
It's fucked I know, but what can you do about it?

I will say though, it's way easier and faster to score a root in a bar, nightclub, or dance party than a library, bus stop, cafe, office etc. I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

[johncitizen]

I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

“Hey baby, do you come here often?”

[1inchguy]

How about they say "alright I will stop working."?
I know we don't want them working in this trade anymore. They're all yours. But when it comes to the cost of making that happen, are you ready to bear it? Is your criteria "stop working this trade" or actually "stop working this trade but work another low paying trade so I don't have to support you and get to fuck you for free"?

How about "lets transition to OnlyFans". If the girl is hot and if shes willing or your willing to make content.

[Jeaso]

“Hey baby, do you come here often?”

Thanks for the laugh.


Paid to have sex? Yea, methinks NOT, based on all the whines here. "Oh, she's old, 30 at least. Whoa... too heavy. No way, she's natural, not shaven. Too much of a belly..." Because with things turned around, it's you servicing the, should we say, less than desirable. The equivalents of the OBFF. The job is sex for money, and while you can choose who you see, I think very few see Brad Pitt types, so the equivalent is not so many Uni SYT's. It's the MILF's, GILF's, etc., etc. DATY to your hearts content on any snatch that walks in - oops, where's the dental dam? And I'd think they'd want a true orgasm, not the FOAM you hear, not really caring if you yourself get off. If your job, the way you put a roof over your head, food in your belly, support your family, is based on the number of clients you have, then your "freedom of choice" is limited, expanding to the wider female population.

Simple. Just imagine EVERY one that you've turned down, walked away from, ran away from, now... they're your meal ticket. But maybe I misunderstood.

You have a good point, I would just add that yea.. you would just have to perform some DATY on the less desired ones if you want to earn some $$, but that's only if you offer it right, same way girls offer you a package or just say: ''nope, HJ only''.
So you would still have some degree of control on what you do to them. But I get your point, still I'd like to think if the roles were reversed a lot of guys out there wouldn't mind doing this job.

[Folcis]

A
I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

Hahahaha. What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?

[GoldfishMan]

I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

Haha, I guess your pickup line would be
"Hi babe, let's go for a drink and swap some gonno"?

[Shoryureppa]

marry her, positive life decision

[ChadThunderrcock]

No argument, but if it's a bar, and she happens to be a BFL, what, I should automatically exclude her? Or the girl helping me pick out fresh vegetables (you can't fool me, vegetables come in cans) at the supermarket, what happens if she turns out to be working in an MP? Seems you're excluding a group just by their profession, not by their character. And for those who think "good character" equates to a civilian job, why are there so many divorces with said civilians?

Guess you haven't seen the movie Risky Business...

You can totally judge a girl by her profession. A bar and she happens to be a BFL. This is a no-brainer.

I have never met any good, moral, ethical, honest Thai Bargirl who is of good character.

[ChadThunderrcock]

The real issue isn’t the rub 'n tugs, the brothels, or the WLs/MLs...it’s the blokes who visit these joints looking for love, relationships or “the one”
It's fucked I know, but what can you do about it?


Alot of these guys end up dating the ML/WL and become her "boyfriend".

Only a Very-Low Value man would date a ML/WL.


A chick especially an attractive one, can score a root pretty much anywhere, anytime, and with anyone she wants. That’s the power and magnetic pull of the pussy. As she ages (and chicks age like milk) that pussy loses its appeal and magnetic pull.

A bloke, on the other hand, can pull some chicks (and in rare cases many chicks - especially if he looks like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth), but he's gotta put in a lot of time, effort, energy, and resources to make it happen. For a chick, it can take minutes to score a root; for a bloke, it can take days, weeks, or even months (or years, for the real simps).

If you quantified all that time, effort, energy, and resources and converted it into a dollar figure, you’d probably find that $150 for a guaranteed root is actually a bargain.

The real issue isn’t the rub 'n tugs, the brothels, or the WLs/MLs...it’s the blokes who visit these joints looking for love, relationships or “the one”
It's fucked I know, but what can you do about it?

I will say though, it's way easier and faster to score a root in a bar, nightclub, or dance party than a library, bus stop, cafe, office etc. I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

Have you never joined Tinder before mate?

If you look like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, girls will match and message you non-stop. No "time, effort, energy or resources" needed. Straight to mine or hers. No money needed either. Cheaper than the "$150 for a guaranteed root". And I know the girl would actually be into me as well.

But to be able to do this, of course you have to be young, fit, 6-pac and have a very, very, very handsome face.

[GoldfishMan]

No argument, but if it's a bar, and she happens to be a BFL, what, I should automatically exclude her? Or the girl helping me pick out fresh vegetables (you can't fool me, vegetables come in cans) at the supermarket, what happens if she turns out to be working in an MP? Seems you're excluding a group just by their profession, not by their character. And for those who think "good character" equates to a civilian job, why are there so many divorces with said civilians?

Guess you haven't seen the movie Risky Business...

Please excuse my ignorance. What's BFL?

[11Bravo]

You can totally judge a girl by her profession. A bar and she happens to be a BFL. This is a no-brainer.
I have never met any good, moral, ethical, honest Thai Bargirl who is of good character.
You should get around more often or perhaps lose the "almighty" superior attitude. I know 3 currently, and over the decades, a number.

Also, you can judge a member by his posts... ASSHOLE.


Please excuse my ignorance. What's BFL?
Bar freelancer. Which is different than a BG - bar girl.


A BG works for the bar, ala Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy a-go-go's. She gets a salary, makes extra by going with customers. To take her out of the bar, you pay a bar fine.


A BFL is an independent "contractor", not a bar/club employee. She most likely has to pay an entrance fee to enter the bar/club, just like any other customer. No bar fine because she's an independent, is just another bar/club customer. Think Thermae.

[GoldfishMan]

You should get around more often or perhaps lose the "almighty" superior attitude. I know 3 currently, and over the decades, a number.

Also, you can judge a member by his posts... ASSHOLE.


Bar freelancer. Which is different than a BG - bar girl.


A BG works for the bar, ala Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy a-go-go's. She gets a salary, makes extra by going with customers. To take her out of the bar, you pay a bar fine.


A BFL is an independent "contractor", not a bar/club employee. She most likely has to pay an entrance fee to enter the bar/club, just like any other customer. No bar fine because she's an independent, is just another bar/club customer. Think Thermae.


Thanks bro. Should've thought of that. I am familiar with FL but when you added the B that threw me off.

[11Bravo]

Thanks bro. Should've thought of that. I am familiar with FL but when you added the B that threw me off.

Just my addition to denote methodology. You don't meet them via an app, but IRL. My favorite methodology. Yes, you do have to negotiate, and it is a MUTUAL job interview, but you can read their body language, reactions, banter (no AI cheating), and how they interact with you before taking them home. Plus, you can get a drink, maybe a meal, listen to a live band during the job interviews, along with time to mull over your decision. But don't delay too much - others have the same ideas... IME.

[Fallinlove]

Matey I am sorry but anyone whoÂ’s dating or falls in love with a WL or a ML has my condolences. Never in a million years should you, epically the popular ones for example the kqueens or j queens. You have to love dick to some degree to be a queen at these shops. Some of the things me and K girls do are outright disgusting. These girls get fucked and ploughed from all sorts of dirty men with filthy minds including myself. They get dicked down in many positions and cum with different men daily. These girls definitely have favourites too (their regulars they can fully enjoy with) , from my experience they don’t need sex from you, if you fall in love with one you will only be seeing her ? While she have sex with other guys ? Makes no sense unless of course you’re into that sort of thing. Only heed my warning be careful when punting it’s good to be respectful and I am as well but never forget they are WLs / MLs .

[Double_Adapter]

Matey I am sorry but anyone who’s dating or falls in love with a WL or a ML has my condolences. Never in a million years should you, epically the popular ones for example the kqueens or j queens. You have to love dick to some degree to be a queen at these shops. Some of the things me and K girls do are outright disgusting. These girls get fucked and ploughed from all sorts of dirty men with filthy minds including myself. They get dicked down in many positions and cum with different men daily. These girls definitely have favourites too (their regulars they can fully enjoy with) , from my experience they don’t need sex from you, if you fall in love with one you will only be seeing her ? While she have sex with other guys ? Makes no sense unless of course you’re into that sort of thing. Only heed my warning be careful when punting it’s good to be respectful and I am as well but never forget they are WLs / MLs .

Was expecting the ChadTC punchline, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Anyway, where the fuck is Thundercock? He should be all over this post. This is exactly the kind of shit he thrives on.

[Fallinlove]

Was expecting the ChadTC punchline, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Anyway, where the fuck is Thundercock? He should be all over this post. This is exactly the kind of shit he thrives on.

No one can be like ChadTC didn’t you know he is better looking than Bradpitt or Liam Hemsworth, lucky for them he didn’t pursue a modeling career.

[secret0]

Was expecting the ChadTC punchline, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Anyway, where the fuck is Thundercock? He should be all over this post. This is exactly the kind of shit he thrives on.

Looks like he was banned.
Don't worry. He'll be back with another account. Think he's hit over 10 now.
He'll post in some random general threads so he can get verified, comment around for a bit when his account can post live, then fall back on Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth bs.
He's like herpes, that one. We'll never be rid of him.

[Double_Adapter]

Looks like he was banned.
Don't worry. He'll be back with another account. Think he's hit over 10 now.
He'll post in some random general threads so he can get verified, comment around for a bit when his account can post live, then fall back on Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth bs.
He's like herpes, that one. We'll never be rid of him.

Banned....no way! The way he carried on you'd think he sealed a blood pact at the crossroads at 12am.

[11Bravo]

Banned....no way! The way he carried on you'd think he sealed a blood pact at the crossroads at 12am.

Damn. Maybe it's the Asian influence: Lunar New Year. You clean up the house, throw out the trash. Guess I should be careful with my own posts. Nah...

[Hedonisticfun]

Alot of these guys end up dating the ML/WL and become her "boyfriend".

Only a Very-Low Value man would date a ML/WL.



Have you never joined Tinder before mate?

If you look like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, girls will match and message you non-stop. No "time, effort, energy or resources" needed. Straight to mine or hers. No money needed either. Cheaper than the "$150 for a guaranteed root". And I know the girl would actually be into me as well.

But to be able to do this, of course you have to be young, fit, 6-pac and have a very, very, very handsome face.

Ah Chad me ol' matey , I've said it before and I'll say it again in response to your statement
"Only a very low value man would date a ML/WL " ... only a very low value man would visit a ML / WL

[Hedonisticfun]

You can totally judge a girl by her profession. A bar and she happens to be a BFL. This is a no-brainer.

I have never met any good, moral, ethical, honest Thai Bargirl who is of good character.

.. another gem from you Chad "you can totally judge a girl by her profession " what's that say about the punters that patronise her ? In the same category as the plethora of used car salesmen , lawyers and politicians

[Malort]

I once picked up a chick in an std clinic, so nothing is beyond reach or impossible.

Well, at least you know she puts out.

[Hedonisticfun]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.

Same reason I'm not having a relationship with a non sex industry worker .. haven't met a compatible partner and the ones that did come close we soon drifted apart . I'll put it down to me basically selfishness wanting variety , couldn't handle a mundane life though yearned for it for years and freedom , too much happy wife happy life just wasn't for me . A relationship can be had with an industry worker , her job is no different to any other as long as the guy doesn't expect sex to be the main focus on the relationship

[Hedonisticfun]

Well, at least you know she puts out.

.. and the crux of why I punt ! No wasted chasing , buying drinks / meals , dating , meaningless chitchat (though have done once established with a regular industry worker) to get into bed

[johncitizen]

It’s only been a couple of weeks, but I’m interested if there are any developments with OP’s relationship. OP, care to share an update?

[Hedonisticfun]

Well, at least you know she puts out.

.. and the crux of why I punt ! No wasted chasing , buying drinks / meals , dating , meaningless chitchat (though have done once established with a regular industry worker/s ) to get into bed and not limited to a monogamous regular

[johncitizen]

A relationship can be had with an industry worker , her job is no different to any other as long as the guy doesn't expect sex to be the main focus on the relationship

Have you ever had a relationship with an industry worker? If so, how did you find it? Genuinely curious.

[johncitizen]

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[Hedonisticfun]

Have you ever had a relationship with an industry worker? If so, how did you find it? Genuinely curious.

Have had long term but no live-in but made sure I didn't get too involved for reasons given in other replies in this thread .. basically chemistry was there but not compatible enough for me nor did I want to maintain a monogamous relationship

[silly boy]

I have had several. Still friends with one.

[johncitizen]

I have had several. Still friends with one.

How did they go? If you don’t mind me asking, how come they ended?

[Fallinlove]

IÂ’m only writing from experience, dating a WL is never what it seems, remember in life there is always a price, IÂ’m recently divorced before when I was married I use to see a Jap WL regularly and developed some feelings for her. Minx told me she felt the same only later to find out she had been letting a regular hit it raw and creampie often. He was younger and she probably liked him better. IÂ’m not bitter just letting my fellow men know the price you have to pay. She will see a lot of guys on a daily basis and get ploughed. If you can accepted that than by all means but that was a tough pill to swallow for me. Hence my user name.

Take care punters

[johncitizen]

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[johncitizen]

IÂ’m only writing from experience, dating a WL is never what it seems, remember in life there is always a price, IÂ’m recently divorced before when I was married I use to see a Jap WL regularly and developed some feelings for her. Minx told me she felt the same only later to find out she had been letting a regular hit it raw and creampie often. He was younger and she probably liked him better. IÂ’m not bitter just letting my fellow men know the price you have to pay. She will see a lot of guys on a daily basis and get ploughed. If you can accepted that than by all means but that was a tough pill to swallow for me. Hence my user name.

Take care punters

Yeah, that’s tough, man. I’d be annoyed too if I found that out. Did she ever tell you why she did that?

[Hedonisticfun]

IÂ’m only writing from experience, dating a WL is never what it seems, remember in life there is always a price, IÂ’m recently divorced before when I was married I use to see a Jap WL regularly and developed some feelings for her. Minx told me she felt the same only later to find out she had been letting a regular hit it raw and creampie often. He was younger and she probably liked him better. IÂ’m not bitter just letting my fellow men know the price you have to pay. She will see a lot of guys on a daily basis and get ploughed. If you can accepted that than by all means but that was a tough pill to swallow for me. Hence my user name.

Take care punters

Appreciate the honesty and can feel your pain Fall but seems a bit hypocritical when you mention she a let a regular hit it raw (would've it made a difference if sheathed) or were you expecting her to retire and cruncher is before you got divorced you were married and seeing her .

[Fallinlove]

Yeah, that’s tough, man. I’d be annoyed too if I found that out. Did she ever tell you why she did that?

Actually I found out while snooping on her phone and she finally confessed. I assume it was because he was younger and better looking than me it’s just the truth. On the bright side I now plough and drill J and K queens on a weekly basis guess it worked out . Some of the sessions I’ve had recently could get prono awards I reckon haha so there lies a silver lining I guess.

[Fallinlove]

Appreciate the honesty and can feel your pain Fall but seems a bit hypocritical when you mention she a let a regular hit it raw (would've it made a difference if sheathed) or were you expecting her to retire and cruncher is before you got divorced you were married and seeing her .

I mean she’s a WL so having sex with other men with a condom is a given. But the raw and cream pie just caught me off guard cause to give that kind of extra service I figured you’d have to like the punter a little more than usual .

[Hedonisticfun]

I mean she’s a WL so having sex with other men with a condom is a given. But the raw and cream pie just caught me off guard cause to give that kind of extra service I figured you’d have to like the punter a little more than usual .

Ok , just seems a bit of emotional immaturity , nothing personal but if you handle her still working but the raw was the issue then yes it was something that you had to get over. If you had to snoop on her phone then trust issues also an issue. As long as you're content now and more alert

[tcrawford]

Actually I found out while snooping on her phone and she finally confessed.

J girls are surprisingly bad at outing themselves, even when they know it will incriminate them. It's like if you ask them a direct question they will surrender the information, unlike K girls they will just lie to your face.

[Fallinlove]

Ok , just seems a bit of emotional immaturity , nothing personal but if you handle her still working but the raw was the issue then yes it was something that you had to get over. If you had to snoop on her phone then trust issues also an issue. As long as you're content now and more alert

Thanks mate appreciate it!

Yeh I definitely cannot date a WL guess something I can’t overcome mentally, the things we do in some of my sessions with WLs will always haunt me if I was ever dating one knowing someone else is doing the same or even more. Guess everyone’s different definitely no judgement for all the fellow punters here who dates WLs I’m just sharing my thoughts and think it’s better to steer away from that road in my opinion.

[tcrawford]

If she is a J WL in a FS shop, 100% one customer at least is fucking her raw. Don't matter if she is short stay or not, its almost guaranteed. You would have to be a moron to date a J WL.

[11Bravo]

IÂ’m recently divorced before when I was married I use to see a Jap WL regularly and developed some feelings for her. Minx told me she felt the same only later to find out she had been letting a regular hit it raw and creampie often. He was younger and she probably liked him better. IÂ’m not bitter just letting my fellow men know the price you have to pay. She will see a lot of guys on a daily basis and get ploughed. If you can accepted that than by all means but that was a tough pill to swallow for me. Hence my user name.

If that was the case, your handle should be Fallinlust.


Actually I found out while snooping on her phone and she finally confessed.

Soooooo... snooping on her phone acceptable because, hey, you were dating her, had feelings... You said she "felt the same", so guess it would be OK if she took a look at your phone.. checking to see how serious you were. After all, you were MARRIED, while you wanted to date/were dating her, had feelings for her. You ever check her purse to see how many condoms she might be carrying, to see how professional/busy she was (some guys have posted they do). How about checking her social media accounts, just to "see", then blocking yours so she couldn't return the favor? (Might want to be careful there - one sad member's squeeze was of the same nationality as his wife, and they (surprise, surprise - duh) shared memberships in certain Facebook groups).

As ditchtheboss posted, it's compartmentalization. What? Didn't you do the same? Wife/girlfriend, married/dating, work/play? Fantasy/reality? Maybe she was just more successful.

Difference between infatuation and reality. You either accept a person, with all their flaws, or you don't.

You ever think she might have caught some shrapnel herself? Maybe she enjoyed your company just a little bit, nice guy, can relax, trust, let her guard down... You certainly disabused her of those notions with the inquisition (nobody expects the Spanish...), "Yes, she confessed under interrogation". And punters wonder why they have shells...

Based on your posts, you certainly don't seem to be some besotted pup. But she didn't break your heart; you just happened to see her reality.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gvypKtPhRU0

[wallyworld]

I have been dating a girl I met in a massage shop for a few months now. She is very beautiful in terms of look and body. Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that I’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend. She has a good personality too, used to like party and club but is now willing to stay at home with me.

Things are getting a bit serious after months and she is willing to settle down. I’m on the other side not sure… at the end of the day we have differences in many ways.

Anyone has any positive experience with similar situation? I know everyone is different but just wanted to hear any real life case.


have to the question you ask her hide a small camera in the roof to film her in action with some her punters be could to see how she behaves or tell you would like to see some videos to jerk off to when she is not around or busy

[ColesBag]

Oh God, not this again.

[johncitizen]

have to the question you ask her hide a small camera in the roof to film her in action with some her punters be could to see how she behaves or tell you would like to see some videos to jerk off to when she is not around or busy

Depending on how successful he is with the small camera, he may not even need to ask her for the jerk-off videos.

How would OP hide a small camera inside the roof of the massage parlour? Are you suggesting that the girl does it for him? Does he need to ask for 15 minutes of “alone time” at the beginning of the massage?

[11Bravo]

have to the question you ask her hide a small camera in the roof to film her in action with some her punters be could to see how she behaves or tell you would like to see some videos to jerk off to when she is not around or busy

Christ, punters raise holy hell about security cameras in the hallway or at the entrance...

Bonus: another income stream for her and/or him. Posting adult videos... Well, if she offers a discount for cowgirl, the room's bright, you might want to rethink the punt... else smile and wave...

Seriously, if a girl was doing this on her own, or snooping in your phone, your bag, there'd be hell to pay. But hey, if it's a punter, seems it's Animal Farm - some more equal than others.

[IDOTHAT]

Rule #1 of punt club. Don't take anything home with you!

[jonnocan]

Rule #1 of punt club. Don't take anything home with you!

Just saying, you never know what anyone is really going through in their lives, and the assumptions here of WL's is very narrow.
You never know whats in a relationship until you know.
In my 30's I dated a stripper, and would probably be with her today if my job hadn't taken me across country. We got along for may reasons - and sex wasn't the primary one after a while.

If you want to be with her becuase of the sex, probably no chaance of working. If you actually get along, can talk and support each other then thats something to build on. Just MHO.

[johncitizen]

Random people on the street will sometimes comment when we go out that IÂ’m a such lucky man to have such a stunning girlfriend.

Sounds like they would be up for a girlfriend swap. Have you tried asking them?