Side chicks, mistresses, FWB, booty calls

[Rookiestones]

This question is for those who have a significant other.. mainly a wife or girlfriend.

- How many other go-to ladies (non-WL or ML) do you have outside your "commited " relationship?
- How did it start? Eg through work, approached in public, social event, friends sister etc
- What's the arrangement or agreed understanding, rules?
- How long has it lasted or currently going?
- How often do you meet up?
- Where do you usually meet?

[BigBoomer65]

No mistress for me, I just punt occasionally and delete all the messages and calls and pay in cash, risk of getting caught remains very low that way than if you go the mistress route.

[HiredGoon]

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[KakeyA]

No mistress for me, I just punt occasionally and delete all the messages and calls and pay in cash, risk of getting caught remains very low that way than if you go the mistress route.

I'm with this one. I punt as I want to try different chicks but I am not about to get a long term FWB or mistress. I pay for punting when I can fit it into my routine and when the urge gets too much but I try my best to hide my tracks as the last thing I want is to end up getting caught and having to face all that drama about what would happen.

I actually like my wife and I would rather remain with her, but I just happen to like fucking other females too, but nothing serious as I don't want to catch either a STI, or the dreaded sickness called "Feelings" for someone I am paying to make me feel good and then leave not to have any emotional connection to them.

[woodland]

I'm with this one. I punt as I want to try different chicks but I am not about to get a long term FWB or mistress. I pay for punting when I can fit it into my routine and when the urge gets too much but I try my best to hide my tracks as the last thing I want is to end up getting caught and having to face all that drama about what would happen.

I actually like my wife and I would rather remain with her, but I just happen to like fucking other females too, but nothing serious as I don't want to catch either a STI, or the dreaded sickness called "Feelings" for someone I am paying to make me feel good and then leave not to have any emotional connection to them.

makes a lot of sense.

[andrewv]

There is no real value in having a mistress other than the fact that she is not fucking 10 to 12 men the same day before you meet her or the day before meeting her.
On the downside, a mistress would demand various commitments from her man. You cannot see her randomly. And it always gets boring anyway.

[BigBoomer65]

I'm with this one. I punt as I want to try different chicks but I am not about to get a long term FWB or mistress. I pay for punting when I can fit it into my routine and when the urge gets too much but I try my best to hide my tracks as the last thing I want is to end up getting caught and having to face all that drama about what would happen.

I actually like my wife and I would rather remain with her, but I just happen to like fucking other females too, but nothing serious as I don't want to catch either a STI, or the dreaded sickness called "Feelings" for someone I am paying to make me feel good and then leave not to have any emotional connection to them.

Yep, my feelings exactly, although I generally stick to NHJ so I don't bring back anything, that being said the risk is pretty low even for BBBJ, so I'd probably take up the offer for a reasonable price every once in a while.

[11Bravo]

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Thanks; worth signing in for.

[andrewv]

I've tried it, and it doesn't work, unless you are a mega-wealthy multi-millionaire who can afford to set up your mistress in her own home/apartment and pay a hefty monthly allowance.
You should google how Richard Pratt (billionaire founder of Visy Group) did it https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-16/madison-ashton-denied-claim-on-richard-pratt-estate/6116100

Also check out Richard White (founder of WiseTech) and the dramas that have cost him millions. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/scandal-over-ex-lover-wipes-3-billion-from-tech-moguls-fortune

In most cases, a mistress will be discovered by your wife, or the mistress herself will go ballistic on you and spill the beans to your wife.

A not-so-millionaire man's alternative is to get a "Sugar Baby", but these too become problematic and do not last. She will not be loyal to you. Many sugar babies have multiple sugar daddies because they need to collect a lot more than $500 to $800 each time you meet them. You also have to pay for hotel rooms and presents.

In almost all cases, the mistress or sugar baby will become as boring and dull when it comes to sex as your wife is (after all, if the wife is hot in bed after years of marriage you would not be asking about alternatives).

This is why brothels will never go out of business. Hence why prostitution is the oldest profession.



This question is for those who have a significant other.. mainly a wife or girlfriend.

- How many other go-to ladies (non-WL or ML) do you have outside your "commited " relationship?
- How did it start? Eg through work, approached in public, social event, friends sister etc
- What's the arrangement or agreed understanding, rules?
- How long has it lasted or currently going?
- How often do you meet up?
- Where do you usually meet?

[Double_Adapter]

Side chicks, mistresses, FWB, booty calls, beaver patrol etc - call it what you want, it’s a system. And systems don’t run on pure luck; they run on discipline and game.

If you’re going to play in that space, a "rotation" isn't optional it's the foundation of the system. Other than a tight rotation of chicks you gotta be absolutely anal in managing and controlling the variables of time, energy, attention, resources, logistics and expectations.....fail to manage any one of these and the whole system collapses real fucken fast.

BMTS unpacks and breaks down the system in one of his famous but highly controversial lectures. If I find it, I’ll drop it here......it leans heavy on theory and female nature, so probably not suitable for simps, white knights and/or those who are easily offended.

Multimillionaires??....what a load of fucken horseshit! Those cunts lack game, punting savviness and chick awareness.

[Rookiestones]

So many good points. I can certainly relate and 100% concur to all everything mentioned.

I've been getting feeds POV of dudes cold approaching on YT and some social media platforms. Got me so intrigued.

Then you see all the talent in the open out in public... the streets, shops, restaurants, train stations, office buildings... It's so hard to resist, so tempting.

[elitistmofo]

A not-so-millionaire man's alternative is to get a "Sugar Baby", but these too become problematic and do not last. She will not be loyal to you. Many sugar babies have multiple sugar daddies because they need to collect a lot more than $500 to $800 each time you meet them. You also have to pay for hotel rooms and presents.


My SB is a 23 Asian girl (I’m 50) and only costs me $200pw plus dinners etc. so they are out there but you want to find them on dating sites rather than going for seasoned SBs.

The big risk is falling in love!

[TheFinger]

The big risk is falling in love!



And that is why punting is safer. No chance of falling in love if your pockets cannot sustain all those visits!

[jamesjj]

Get on redhotpie. So many women there who want nsa fucking It's not funny. Takes a little saleswork and hunting but it can be fun. Many don't want to be wined and dined at all, they just want cock. They're often open minded, some have opened up their marriage and they're not going through the motions like a wl often does.

[GoldfishMan]

These SB sites are good to a certain extent. It lets everyone's expectations "intersect". Sometimes you're stinking poor but you really needed a smoking hot Victoria's Secret-level babe, sometimes you're filthy rich but all you needed was an average looking girl most people wouldn't even give a second look at on the street.

If you're the latter you're in luck, these sites are perfect for you. If you're the earlier, you're a sucker waiting to be scammed.

[andrewv]

That's an interesting amount -- $200. It is interesting because it is not enough to do much for her. Do you know how she makes ends meet when her living expenses are probably $500+ a week? Are you her only sugar daddy?


My SB is a 23 Asian girl (I’m 50) and only costs me $200pw plus dinners etc. so they are out there but you want to find them on dating sites rather than going for seasoned SBs.

The big risk is falling in love!

[elitistmofo]

That's an interesting amount -- $200. It is interesting because it is not enough to do much for her. Do you know how she makes ends meet when her living expenses are probably $500+ a week? Are you her only sugar daddy?

We’re exclusive. She has a 9 to 5. It started out at $400pw but once she started catching feelings I told her it had to halve. So far so good.

[Rookiestones]

We’re exclusive. She has a 9 to 5. It started out at $400pw but once she started catching feelings I told her it had to halve. So far so good.

Awesome mate. Mind if I bring this back to the topic:
1. Are you single or currently in a relationship?
2. How long have you had this SB?
3. What's the arrangement?
4. How often do you meet?
5. Did you guys click of the bat?

[elitistmofo]

Awesome mate. Mind if I bring this back to the topic:
1. Are you single or currently in a relationship?
2. How long have you had this SB?
3. What's the arrangement?
4. How often do you meet?
5. Did you guys click of the bat?

1. Single as of 3 months after almost 20 yrs
2. This SB I’ve been seeing for 2 months
3. I pay for nice dinners etc and pay her $200 cash. I’m her first SD but she’s into older guys.
4. Every week for 2 - 3 nights, she stays at mine
5. Clicked immediately

Not sure I like being exclusive though, so that may have to change. I’m still punting on the side.