Borrowing money from WLs

[HiredGoon]

Occasionally, when I have cashflow issues, I will borrow money at zero interest from wls (they tend to have a lot of cash saved).
My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?

[Double_Adapter]

Occasionally, when I have cashflow issues, I will borrow money at zero interest from wls (they tend to have a lot of cash saved).
My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?

If Chad was here he'd say a 'low value man'

[GoldfishMan]

If Chad was here he'd say a 'low value man'

Only if you pay it back.

[HiredGoon]

Only if you pay it back.

That actually made me lol

[11Bravo]

Only if you pay it back.


That actually made me lol

Likewise. Still laughing.

But in thinking about it, wouldn't it also be true if not paid back? From her perspective, default on loan = low value.

[KakeyA]

I have talked to a few girls in the Mirage / Mystic 93 / Platinum 121 empire and those that are not FIFO and here longer term tend to all room share together and they take trips back to Japan a few times a year to take the cash back. One girl told me that they tend to save up about $50K and then take in back in their check in suitcase.
Thus, OP has a valid point about them having lots of cash

[secret0]

If Chad was here he'd say a 'low value man'

He's still here with at least 2 accounts.

[HiredGoon]

To be clear, I have always paid back in full within a few days. But yeah shit, does that make me a simp or an alpha?

This shit is so confusing...

[Umitabi]

I think the OP should borrow some money and not pay the WL back and then come back here and create a thread to get some role reversal comments

[trampslikeus55]

My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?
I think it makes you lucky 😎

[HiredGoon]

I think the OP should borrow some money and not pay the WL back and then come back here and create a thread to get some role reversal comments

That sounds shitty and even worse, boring…

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

Occasionally, when I have cashflow issues, I will borrow money at zero interest from wls (they tend to have a lot of cash saved).
My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?

Bullshit. You're just fishing. She would have to be one dumb as fuck airhead blonde to part with her cash.
What did you promise her in return? Your heart?

Definitely a simp on the very top of the totem pole.

[HiredGoon]

What did you promise her in return?

Not everybody has your transactional view of the world. Some people are actually nice.






Definitely a simp on the very top of the totem pole.

Wow, not the response I expected from you!

[endorphine7]

Not everybody has your transactional view of the world. Some people are actually nice.





Wow, not the response I expected from you!

borrowing 7 dollars from WL/ML to get a bus back home is not something i would say it to the world with pride dude !

[HiredGoon]

borrowing 7 dollars from WL/ML to get a bus back home is not something i would say it to the world with pride dude !

Well done. Neither would I.

[Double_Adapter]

Well done. Neither would I.

FFS...you lot still carrying on like a bunch of fucken menopausal milfs. Lately AUS99 feels less like a sex forum and more like an emotional tampon for the sensitive types to unload their unresolved frustrations.

[HiredGoon]

FFS...you lot still carrying on like a bunch of fucken menopausal milfs. Lately AUS99 feels less like a sex forum and more like an emotional tampon for the sensitive types to unload their unresolved frustrations.

Sounds like you need a Bex and a lie down. RUOK?

[Seafood]

I have cashflow issues but still go punting, lol

[Rustyman1980]

I agree mate he's definitely a simp because his order posts

But, I told him to change his name to FiredGoon

Because obviously he's poor and stupid and I hear his wife had chlamydia

PS: alpha, Delta gamma, beta, echo, Charlie, tango

Who the fuck cares what kind a guy you are, and who made that shit up

Pick a Greek letter and stick it up your arse, Now goons excited anything with arse in it, but he's definitely Y - yalla


Bullshit. You're just fishing. She would have to be one dumb as fuck airhead blonde to part with her cash.
What did you promise her in return? Your heart?

Definitely a simp on the very top of the totem pole.

[Ziggurat]

they take trips back to Japan a few times a year to take the cash back. One girl told me that they tend to save up about $50K and then take in back in their check in suitcase.

Are you allowed to take that much cash into the country? It would also show up on x-ray when leaving. If it was declared in Japan wouldn't they ask where it came from?

[justincase]

I asked a bunch of WL’s during a group session if they’d pay me. The joke didn’t register. Not even a laugh.

So what else are you to do with them?

[Ron the rimmer]

I asked a bunch of WL’s during a group session if they’d pay me. The joke didn’t register. Not even a laugh.

So what else are you to do with them?

Haha . That’s because if you ever get to know one out of their work environment they will open up and tell you they here this shit all the time and just find it a total waste of time and an absolute turn off lol

[KakeyA]

Are you allowed to take that much cash into the country? It would also show up on x-ray when leaving. If it was declared in Japan wouldn't they ask where it came from?

I assumed it would not be carry on and would be checked in. The girl I was talking to had been in Australia for 2 years and had done it 4 times, not declaring leaving Australia and not declaring back in Japan in order to avoid questions and paying taxes

Don’t know if she put it into the bank in Japan or kept it stashed at her parents place but I’d assume that they have similar laws to us in money laundering so if she put it into the bank she could not put over a certain amount at once

The thing that freaked me out was that she room shared and I was like, but if you room share won’t that person possibly steal the money from you as she said she kept the money in her room but that was when she told me that all the girls in her house were in the Mirage / Platinum / Mystic group which kind of made sense. She said they pared up based on rosters so that when one girl was working the other had the room

[Linza Giz]

I assumed it would not be carry on and would be checked in. The girl I was talking to had been in Australia for 2 years and had done it 4 times, not declaring leaving Australia and not declaring back in Japan in order to avoid questions and paying taxes

Don’t know if she put it into the bank in Japan or kept it stashed at her parents place but I’d assume that they have similar laws to us in money laundering so if she put it into the bank she could not put over a certain amount at once

The thing that freaked me out was that she room shared and I was like, but if you room share won’t that person possibly steal the money from you as she said she kept the money in her room but that was when she told me that all the girls in her house were in the Mirage / Platinum / Mystic group which kind of made sense. She said they pared up based on rosters so that when one girl was working the other had the room

Japan is a cash society so the girls would use it to pay rent , shopping etc. the money won't last long . Alot of these girls have expensive habits IYKYK

[KakeyA]

Japan is a cash society so the girls would use it to pay rent , shopping etc. the money won't last long . Alot of these girls have expensive habits IYKYK

I agree that it is much more cash based than Australia but they have PayPay and I noted a massive difference between staying October 2025 and March 2026 in that in those 4-5 months every store I went to in Tokyo, apart from one, had converted to accepting touchless card payments.

Granted, I was staying in Minato-ku so that’s like comparing the Sydney CBD and Eastern suburbs to the whole of Australia but it was such a notable difference.

I went to one Men’s Esthe and payment was all card, no cash which surprised me

[Linza Giz]

I agree that it is much more cash based than Australia but they have PayPay and I noted a massive difference between staying October 2025 and March 2026 in that in those 4-5 months every store I went to in Tokyo, apart from one, had converted to accepting touchless card payments.

Granted, I was staying in Minato-ku so that’s like comparing the Sydney CBD and Eastern suburbs to the whole of Australia but it was such a notable difference.

I went to one Men’s Esthe and payment was all card, no cash which surprised me

It's definitely changing but cash is still the main form of payment for things. I noticed last time I was there also

[secret0]

It's definitely changing but cash is still the main form of payment for things. I noticed last time I was there also

Yeah, as much as people view Japan as being super technologically advanced, there are many parts that are still stuck in the 90/00s.
They still use fax machines and hard copies for important documents.
Even from their subsidiaries in other countries. There are Japanese companies that have offices here in Australia, and the Australian offices still have to send shit like photos and forms for physical company/security IDs via mail to the Japanese offices to create them.
For most technologies, they've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

Even with cash - with the huge uptick in tourists in the last decade, as well as younger generations doing everything online, Japan couldn't afford not to start implementing alternative pay methods. But it's still majorly cash based.

[HiredGoon]

I agree mate he's definitely a simp because his order posts

But, I told him to change his name to FiredGoon

Because obviously he's poor and stupid and I hear his wife had chlamydia

PS: alpha, Delta gamma, beta, echo, Charlie, tango

Who the fuck cares what kind a guy you are, and who made that shit up

Pick a Greek letter and stick it up your arse, Now goons excited anything with arse in it, but he's definitely Y - yalla

Lol at telling me what to do Rustyballs.

I dunno what your first and last sentences mean. I googled the word "yalla" and that just made it more confusing.

Are you still upset that I turned down your teabagging offer?

[TJH2]

Reminds me of a stand-up clip I saw couple of days ago: "I swear I have never paid money to see prositututes...and I can tell you, they get really, really angry"

[GoldfishMan]

Yeah, as much as people view Japan as being super technologically advanced, there are many parts that are still stuck in the 90/00s.
They still use fax machines and hard copies for important documents.
Even from their subsidiaries in other countries. There are Japanese companies that have offices here in Australia, and the Australian offices still have to send shit like photos and forms for physical company/security IDs via mail to the Japanese offices to create them.
For most technologies, they've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

Even with cash - with the huge uptick in tourists in the last decade, as well as younger generations doing everything online, Japan couldn't afford not to start implementing alternative pay methods. But it's still majorly cash based.

Have you ever tried to get the tourist tax refund there? I couldn't believe how archaic their system was. They literally had to print the invoice out in triplicate and fill out forms that looked like an exam paper. They had to do that for any purchase regardless now small or large the transaction was. I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.

[secret0]

Have you ever tried to get the tourist tax refund there? I couldn't believe how archaic their system was. They literally had to print the invoice out in triplicate and fill out forms that looked like an exam paper. They had to do that for any purchase regardless now small or large the transaction was. I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.

'Triplicate' fuck, you just triggered a forgotten memory. My pile of receipts which the lady stapled all together.
'I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.' Yeah, that and the person who helps you will definitely not be able to speak any English or other foreign language. I did give up in the end because my friend and I had calculated how much we'd get back, and mine was only around $60 worth, so I just got frustrated and binned the receipts.

[justincase]

Haha . That’s because if you ever get to know one out of their work environment they will open up and tell you they here this shit all the time and just find it a total waste of time and an absolute turn off lol


I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

[HiredGoon]

I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

For someone who thinks nothing of it you sure do post a lot about it.

[justincase]

For someone who thinks nothing of it you sure do post a lot about it.

My thoughts.

It’s what I’m going through at the time. She’s back and I either let her wait or I txt and restart something.

For example, two days ago I was asked by a platinum blonde Vietnamese hottie half my age “I know you like Thai so which restaurant would you like to go to”? I’m obviously on her mind for her to make a move and occasionally she’s on mine.

Yes I want to bang her but again what does she expect afterwards?

So two opportunities but what is the future?

[11Bravo]

My thoughts.

It’s what I’m going through at the time. She’s back and I either let her wait or I txt and restart something.

For example, two days ago I was asked by a platinum blonde Vietnamese hottie half my age “I know you like Thai so which restaurant would you like to go to”? I’m obviously on her mind for her to make a move and occasionally she’s on mine.

Yes I want to bang her but again what does she expect afterwards?

So two opportunities but what is the future?

As for me, same reply as Rhett Butler.

[justincase]

As for me, same reply as Rhett Butler.

Neither do I and that’s precisely why I’m indifferent to women.

[Linza Giz]

I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

I don't think a guy getting txts from hot chicks to go eat and fuck would be on this forum full time posting about his delusions.

If they are true then go enjoy it . But I suspect you are living a fantasy and you want us to be there with you... For some odd reason

[EYANH]

Occasionally, when I have cashflow issues, I will borrow money at zero interest from wls (they tend to have a lot of cash saved).
My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?

You’re lucky. If I lend money, have to charge for interest!

[holi_day]

Can you tell us how much you spent vs how much you borrow from the WLs?

It's like the casino they lend money to gamblers knowing they will lose it back anyway.

[justincase]

I don't think a guy getting txts from hot chicks to go eat and fuck would be on this forum full time posting about his delusions.


I’m not here full time.

[Linza Giz]

I’m not here full time.

So true. Glad you took a break between responding to messages from hot Sheila's to respond to us plebs

[HiredGoon]

Can you tell us how much you spent vs how much you borrow from the WLs?

It's like the casino they lend money to gamblers knowing they will lose it back anyway.

$5000 from one and $2000 from another. At that stage we were fucking outside the shop so no spend from me other than the initial few visits. And they’d been to my place and trusted me.
YMMV

[ColesBag]

Mr. Goon - why do you have cashflow issues ?

[Nippleman]

$5000 from one and $2000 from another. At that stage we were fucking outside the shop so no spend from me other than the initial few visits. And they’d been to my place and trusted me.
YMMV

Did you spend it on rub and tugs?

[HiredGoon]

Mr. Goon - why do you have cashflow issues ?

People can be slow to pay sometimes so outgoings were higher than incomings.
I was also 10-15 years younger.

[gundamsux]

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

[HiredGoon]

I hardly doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

You hardly doubt?

[11Bravo]

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

Well, perhaps not that common, but then winning 3k at the pokies and giving it all to a ML not so common either, methinks. But certainly possible.

Trouble with a cash business is where do you keep the cash? Sure, a bank, but then you're probably paying taxes and filing tax returns. If not, your options can be limiting. Safe deposit box, but that too is paperwork to have an account. Under your mattress, but that might get a bit lumpy, and not all that secure. A boss, but that limits your movement. Now, loaning some to someone you trust... dispersing your assets can be a smart move. Risk to everything, but dispersing risk helps. And with undeclared cash, your options for LE are very limited... they do ask a lot of questions. 20 years ago, one BFL was telling how she'd lost 15k USD to a burglary break-in when no-one was there; couldn't report it to LE. Wasn't a sob story, just a matter of fact telling. Seemed to be one of many risks in the business, just one I hadn't considered.

For me, no reason to doubt either story.

[GoldfishMan]

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

Well, if you go punt with a high priced escort and take a rain check (ie. Don't have enough $$$ to pay her today.... Maybe tomorrow), that's a loan right there. Only "unusual" part is she didn't know she was going to give you one, lollll

[HiredGoon]

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

Fair enough, that’s fine.

[justincase]

“trust no one”

Is an expression used by some.

[11Bravo]

“trust no one”

Is an expression used by some.

And "Trust but verify" is used by others.

[Johny5]

I assumed it would not be carry on and would be checked in. The girl I was talking to had been in Australia for 2 years and had done it 4 times, not declaring leaving Australia and not declaring back in Japan in order to avoid questions and paying taxes

Don’t know if she put it into the bank in Japan or kept it stashed at her parents place but I’d assume that they have similar laws to us in money laundering so if she put it into the bank she could not put over a certain amount at once


That doesn’t make sense. How would having a huge pile of NON-VALID foreign currency help her parents?

[11Bravo]

That doesn’t make sense. How would having a huge pile of NON-VALID foreign currency help her parents?

My guess would be like what many do: take a bit less than the paperwork reporting limit to a money changer, then to a bank. Or directly to a bank. Repeat as necessary. But I'm OLD - I remember travelers checks.

Perhaps there's no hawala money transfer agents in Oz_land, but methinks there just might be some.

[justincase]

I’ve heard of WL’s and ML’s having difficulty getting money back off their work colleagues. So why would they lend to a punter? Most punters are strapped just paying for a punt.

[11Bravo]

I’ve heard of WL’s and ML’s having difficulty getting money back off their work colleagues. So why would they lend to a punter? Most punters are strapped just paying for a punt.

The keyword being most... Still, I'd imagine you would not be a likely candidate, not because you're not most, but because of your personality (or lack thereof). Just sayin...

[HiredGoon]

“trust no one”

Is an expression used by some.

Often used by untrustworthy people.

[justincase]

Often used by untrustworthy people.

I heard the same expression from a PMC. I espoused it and he confirmed that was his belief too as he was still around…


The keyword being most... Still, I'd imagine you would not be a likely candidate, not because you're not most, but because of your personality (or lack thereof). Just sayin...

We all lack something. For some it’s self control. Others it may be ethics.

You are the sum total of your ancestor’s DNA and your societal upbringing.

I understand it’s very hard to change and you should respect those that have the ability or the mental fortitude to change for the better.

Until then the world won’t be a better place and it really is every man for himself.

Look what’s going on around in the world, it’s been the “same same” for eons. Nothing changes except the individual and unfortunately not enough individuals change to make a change.

[OverweightFarang]

I’ve heard of WL’s and ML’s having difficulty getting money back off their work colleagues. So why would they lend to a punter? Most punters are strapped just paying for a punt.

If a Punter has to borrow money, he should not be punting

[1inchguy]

If a Punter has to borrow money, he should not be punting

How about using the borrowed money to keep punting. Or punting the same lady that borrowed from haha

[johncitizen]

How about using the borrowed money to keep punting.

That’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Or robbing Mimi to pay Vicky.

[GoldfishMan]

Or punting the same lady that borrowed from haha

That's called "not paying".

[HiredGoon]

If a Punter has to borrow money, he should not be punting

I wasn’t at the time.

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[Vladimir Puntin]

Does this mean they will loan me money?

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