ML charging more or they scamming

[Scrambler]

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

[1inchguy]

Im noticing ML asking for 150 for fs now . Used to be $100
And plus shop cost.

Better to go brothel shops

[NC3]

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

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The best guide you have are the Ginza rates [ diamond service ] that have almost the perfect balance.
So, any ml you are going to see unless she is 'beyond' you have to pay less than Ginza rates for 30 - 45- and 1-hour session.
Average rates at Ginza are 180 [ 30 min. ] - 240 [ 45 ] and 290 [ 1 hour ], so act accordingly.

Don't leave the few greedy ml's to fool you.
Personal If I meet a greedy ml, I stay only with the massage [ so I pay only the shop money ] and of course [ respectfully ] I leave a bit earlier the session.
Also, don't forget to leave your feedback [ no complain ] to the receptionist for to correct the ml's greedy behavior.

Also don't forget if you go to inclusive shop already you have paid 50$.
Personal my tip for diamond service are, 140 - 160 - 180 [ for one hour session ].

If it is only nhj the tip is 70$ max.

[silly boy]

For massage the shop price is usually 50, sometimes 55. Simple take off and HJ was usually another 50. But now some keep asking for 70.

[EYANH]

Inflation effects! Everyone needs to pay their bills then.

[GoldfishMan]

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

Inflation is one thing but your case sounds like the girls at the shop (I'm assuming this is all happening at the one shop) may be comparing notes and now realise you're an "easy mark". That you'll agree to their prices most if not all the time?

Maybe try going to other shops further a field that you've never been to?

[blitz]

I really don't understand these fucking threads. Petrol goes up. Groceries go up. Rent goes up. Handjobs and blowjobs go up.
Do you think that ML's are somehow exempt from cost of living pressures? Sure they probably gamble a fair share of their income away but you clowns are still punting while complaining about the cost of punting so.....
Simple solution however, if you don't like it then don't buy it. Just punt within your means.
Alternatively you could ask your boss for a pay rise so you would have more money. Or is that being greedy....

[Double_Adapter]

I really don't understand these fucking threads. Petrol goes up. Groceries go up. Rent goes up. Handjobs and blowjobs go up.
Do you think that ML's are somehow exempt from cost of living pressures? Sure they probably gamble a fair share of their income away but you clowns are still punting while complaining about the cost of punting so.....
Simple solution however, if you don't like it then don't buy it. Just punt within your means.
Alternatively you could ask your boss for a pay rise so you would have more money. Or is that being greedy....

Yeah, just like ppl carrying on about the price of beer while ordering another round.
No different to when chicks grimace at the size of your cock, and say "too big" but still continue.
Acting outraged while lining up again just makes the whole thing look like emotional theatre.

[Wank_Somemore]

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The best guide you have are the Ginza rates [ diamond service ] that have almost the perfect balance.


Even with Ginza as a guide, girls still charge the same but for standard service. I.e. without BBBJ. I always tell them i'll accept to pay the fee if BBBJ is included. Most say no, so I decline. On rare occassions, they agree.

[holi_day]

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

[blitz]

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?
It is that simple really. If you want FS go to a FS shop. Fucking a ML is not financially smart. There is this perceived thrill however when you're fucking a ML that you're doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Lot's of dudes get off on that I'm sure.
And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.

[jackdaniels]

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

[Rodrigo]

I like to go to places where the costs of extras is standardised across the shop and is known beforehand. For example, SGM used to be like this but now you don't know what the girl is going to request for extras so I don't go their anymore.

If girls are getting Intel from each other at a shop how much you are willing to pay, it makes you easy bait.

[tittay_lover]

Typo and double post

[tittay_lover]

And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.

nail and head right there

[harryr]

Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

These are my thoughts also , if the conection is good will go for FS if not just do HJ

[11Bravo]

ML charging more or they scamming
Well, if you offer YOUR standard price (below what she would quote), are you trying to rip her off? Seems to me, 2 sides, same coin. She has a floor; I have a ceiling. If I get a high quote, I just mark it as "never hurts to ask", and see if we can "come" to a mutually agreeable solution for some "form" of entertainment. If we can, great. If we can't, well... that's life. Regardless, now I KNOW what HER experience is like for ME.

Nice thing about regulars. That first price tends to be the price you pay on subsequent visits. Not saying prices can't go up, but repeat business does count. When most of your regulars are "busy", or quote a higher price, then perhaps there has been a sea change.


I like to go to places where the costs of extras is standardised across the shop and is known beforehand. For example, SGM used to be like this but now you don't know what the girl is going to request for extras so I don't go their anymore.
Hey, I shop at Woolies, Coles, sticker prices. But I also like to hit some local markets. One of the fun things with traveling where "sticker price" (if there is one) is a suggestion. Just like the "first price" quote is.


If girls are getting Intel from each other at a shop how much you are willing to pay, it makes you easy bait.
Say WHAT?!?! Providers share intel? Isn't that cheating? Aren't only punters allowed to do that? I mean, how often do you see on this forum, "What does she do? How much does she charge?" 2 sides, same coin. Doesn't bother me a bit. Providers know what you'll pay and if you have a good rep. Very handy for BFL's and BG's.


It is that simple really. If you want FS go to a FS shop. Fucking a ML is not financially smart. There is this perceived thrill however when you're fucking a ML that you're doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Lot's of dudes get off on that I'm sure.
And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.
For me, 1st point doesn't apply. 2nd point does. In a FS shop, the vibe is "bend over and brace". I enjoy the buildup at an RnT, but FS shops do have their place (more exactly, it's the provider).


I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?
IME, some can provide a very good massage, some have quite the skill set. I like the warm-up before the heavy exercise. Maybe that's my feminine (I can hear the screams of rage from the alphas now, even those who are temporarily no longer with us) side. Some like fast food, others like a multi-course meal. Both will satisfy a "hunger".

[tittay_lover]

Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

agreed and i’ve turned down far more FS offers than i have accepted them
diff strokes for diff folks and that’s why WL and ML can happily co-exist

[holi_day]

Wow thanks for all the replies.

It makes sense if some punters like the feeling of exploring, winning and conquering. For me, I just want to go straight to the point and get what I want. I sometimes try to convince the FS WL to do something that they not normally do. I get the vibe.

[NC3]

Even with Ginza as a guide, girls still charge the same but for standard service. I.e. without BBBJ. I always tell them i'll accept to pay the fee if BBBJ is included. Most say no, so I decline. On rare occassions, they agree.

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'''Most say no, so I decline''', exactly this, you decline and you continue only with massage. - Ml's has the right to ask for any tip they want, and also the customer has the right to decline and stay only with massage, so you pay only the shop fee.

[andrewv]

Just remember, the only reason prices go up is because some punters agree to pay them.
It is also called charging “What the market will bear”

If you want to get technical, look up Price Discrimination:
"If a seller can, they charge different customers different prices based on their willingness to pay (e.g., airline tickets, hotel rooms, petrol prices, software tiers). In the extreme case (called “first-degree price discrimination”), a firm would charge each person exactly their maximum willingness to pay.

[jaquedm1307]

I'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble but hope this gives some of you something to ponder, others to have a laugh and maybe some to shout out 'fucking Simp'. Whatever it is keep adding to the forum for our mutual benefit.
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It's almost like buying 'pre loved' vehicles on eBay or marketplace
There's a range in age, range of models, some sleek fine curves others robust 4x4, some having additional extras, each varies in how well they've been cared for and some have after market add ons.
Buyers view specs, curves, ruggedness, colour preference, size of add ons etc whichever appeal to them and reviews the asking price.

Balancing all these factors they deem important - some are must haves, some are 'would be nice' and other are 'whatever'

Then they check their bank account / wallet for their discretionary spending balance.

After some deliberation of what they want and can afford they generally book a time slot in the chosen shop and go punting.

New buyers may not see red flags experienced ones do. Some may be blinded by enticing 'after market addons'. Some may be working through a 'wish list' whilst others have unique personal requirements

Shop prices vary marginally so it's the 'negotiated extras' which can make or break the perception of worth / value for money.

Some categorize each extra and attribute a set price however as many will attribute there are BJs and there are BLOW JOBS !!! So to say a BJ will be worth $50 is all down to whether or not you have been lucky enough to know the difference.

Then there's the girl.
First time visit is often a lottery for both parties so $50 might seem a rip off, hold promises or make you book your next visit as you leave.

Some girls despite being repeat customers have their good days (just had their 3 days off / holiday) and not so good days for health reasons (working when sick but still have to pay Uni fees and bills) or watching Netflix until 05.30 am so half asleep. (Jolie - 2 Pope).
Some girls take one look at you and increase their prices to put you off or 'if I'm going to have to do xyz to you you're bloody well paying for it' - csn you blame them !!!

Then there are those 'good ones' who for whatever reason appear to be positive engaging fun and deliver 99% of the time. Enjoy this whilst it lasts because often you don't realise just how good until it's gone.

Mamasans & Papasans have their role in running a tight ship - those ones who listen and value your repeat business. They very occasionally allow a gem to manage her own pricing as they smile knowing she'll be booked out with little effort to them and they get their cut. They also weed out the rude, unreliable, non service orientated ladies quickly.
Good shops IMO tend to have a stable core of girls for longer periods with rotating additions hoping to provide reliability plus refreshing options for regular punters.

However for me personally it's the connection you make with the ML (yet to try WLs) which makes the core difference in one's perception of how much value you feel your $$$$$ has.

I've had cheap $$$$ which I've felt ripped off with - motionless star fish, clock watchers, even one handed massage whilst one handed texting (V Ivy ex SP) 10/10 for multi tasking, then those who agree on extras but think 30 sec BJ constitutes an extra delivered - NOT and refund duly obtained after heated discussion.

I had mid range / stock standard $$$$$$ where it's been cordial on first visit both parties appear to have enjoyed and repeat visits either fizzle after a few visits.
Some you refine and learn what each other enjoys so mutually pleasurable and beneficial.

Some girls give that vibe which makes you want to try a full menu but it's not on offer. So you either say 'thank you' but walk, accept as a one off or accept with the hope repeat visits will open more options.
One ML included a BBBJ from the third visit onwards at no extra cost because she said she felt she was actually being valued by earlier $$$ for less extras.

Some are fantastic for a while but then lethargy and complacency creep in with the expectation of fewer extras (classic bbbj to CBJ) and diminished enthusiasm but expect same $$$$.

Then there are the 'very good' ones who walk in smiling, put their bags down and come up close to discuss what you want, what they are prepared to offer in this session and $$. They're open and usually fair - maybe a bit of friendly bargaining but relatively quickly you come to an agreement and get going.

Then there are the 'unicorns' and we each have our own criteria and reasons but whatever it is there are those girls who just tick 99% / every box you could hope for.

You can click on first visit or build up over time. They could do something that feels totally different to all the others, be great actors but they make you feel good. Be extra naughty in what they do, how they speak to you, how they look at you. (I have one regular who wouldn't be classified as a looker & is early 30's but she does, says and looks at you like no other and her intensity is pretty much unmatched (for me).

However there are ones who stand leagues above the others. For me, I still remember clearly the first moment she walked into the room and I thought the way she looked, walked, held herself, smiled, chatted so chill & friendly and was passionate from visit one.
Over the next 12 months we had fortnightly sessions with everything on the menu except FS reason apparently 'too big' (yes sure !!!!) but she was slim so I was willing to accept as the sessions were amazing.

Then one day she told me she was returning home in 4 weeks for good and she requested we try FS.

All previous session were at market rates but now she asked for double $$$ on top of shop, she was trying to maximise her final weeks to save money for her prospective business back home - fair enough was my decision.

Did I hesitate ? 'fuck no' and this is the long winded way I've got to my point.

PAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU WITH THAT ML AT THAT MOMENT.

I agree and understand as a 'norm' to help fellow punters manage costs but if you find your unicorn ..... your call.

Do regret for a second paying double the rate - hell no and I would do it again in a millisecond.

[holi_day]

A great economy lesson I have learned here.

A reliable shop will put rules in place to ensure girls get paid fairly while customers don't get scammed due to information asymmetry.

This is why Ginza is successful. Not only they manage to keep the service prices competitive, they also set price guide for extras.

If you paid $500 for filming a girl and later find out that other bros paid $200 for the same girl. Surely a bit of lemon taste.

[johncitizen]

I'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble but hope this gives some of you something to ponder, others to have a laugh and maybe some to shout out 'fucking Simp'. Whatever it is keep adding to the forum for our mutual benefit.
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Interesting read, thanks

[11Bravo]

I'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble but hope this gives some of you something to ponder, others to have a laugh and maybe some to shout out 'fucking Simp'. Whatever it is keep adding to the forum for our mutual benefit.
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PAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU WITH THAT ML AT THAT MOMENT.
What a great read. If this forum had a ROD (Reports of Distinction) thread, this would have a link there.

I agree with your conclusion completely. And why, with ADR, I disagree with

A great economy lesson I have learned here.

A reliable shop will put rules in place to ensure girls get paid fairly while customers don't get scammed due to information asymmetry.

This is why Ginza is successful. Not only they manage to keep the service prices competitive, they also set price guide for extras.

If you paid $500 for filming a girl and later find out that other bros paid $200 for the same girl. Surely a bit of lemon taste.

"Information asymmetry" is, for me, another term for "punter laziness". It's up to the punter to know the "going" rates and then make a personal decision if it's worth it to him for that provider. "Rules", "scammed"...

Lesson I learned a very long time ago. First time expat, wanted to buy a souvenir from a shop, no price tags. I didn't know what to offer, didn't want to insult, didn't want to pay OTT, didn't want to get scammed. What would be a good price? A mate who lived there told me, "A good price is what it's worth to YOU. Ask for a price. If it's acceptable, buy. If not, make a counter-offer. If you can get it for that price, or less, great. If not, it's JUST not worth it to you. You know what it's worth to you, the seller knows what it's worth to him." With that advice, half a century later, it's in my living room (OK, bit dusty...).

It's why I can visit any market to shop. Why I don't worry about walking into any gin joint in any town in all the world looking for bg's and bfl's. I've done my homework, know the going rates, and KNOW what her experience is worth to ME. Just like she's free to set her rate for me. I know how to say "no thank you" (in several languages). If she ignores me, great; just did me a favor by saving me from a dud punt. Someone paying the "tourist" tax... there is a price of ignorance.

An a-list BFL, nice enough to always stop and say hello when she saw me in her bar, even though we both knew she was out of my price range (except for 2 nights, Christmas and my birthday). One night, she stopped, chatted, complaining that it was "bad business", wondering why she'd returned from China so quickly. I said that if it was bad business, maybe I had a chance. She said, "Maybe". I asked for a price quote; it was TWICE as high as my normal. I asked, "What about my discount?" She looked me STRAIGHT in the eye, saying, "That IS with discount." Expensive yes, but the memory? Priceless.

Note: she's not a commodity, she's an experience. Just like a concert; you buy a ticket and hopefully enjoy the music.

[justincase]

I wonder how many shop owners are on here “pushing the narrative”?

From a business perspective an average massage shop would net $2k per week. Why would you bother?

[Sher1888]

City 50 nude hj shops that I go to. Maybe they just like me

Crows nest 120 nude hj

Without the shop fees.

[Doink]

I'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble...

I think you could have made this longer

[jaquedm1307]

I think you could have made this longer

Happy to take any commentary from someone who's actually contributed something to the forum - 27 posts of what exactly ?????

[Doink]

Happy to take any commentary from someone who's actually contributed something to the forum - 27 posts of what exactly ?????

well... brevity

[jaquedm1307]

well... brevity

:-) ..... :-) ..... :-)

[priapus1966]

I'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble but hope this gives some of you something to ponder, others to have a laugh and maybe some to shout out 'fucking Simp'. Whatever it is keep adding to the forum for our mutual benefit.


PAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU WITH THAT ML AT THAT MOMENT.



This summary is spot on. Punting is well named because sometimes we win sometimes not; but we invariably learn something. And after almost 40 years, learning is still a buzz.

[Rustyman1980]

Mate stop being to cheap
HJ price been at $50 for a few yrs
Of course they should be going up only reason they stay cheap is the new FOBs arrive and $50 is still better easy money

[Scrambler]

Think ppl misunderstood the questions. Yes pay what you feel is reasonable but asking if ppl noticed girls in general asking for a lot more than the normal. In the same shop in late Jan Feb the girls were asking for $100-120 for FS
Then in late Feb - March I noticed girls asking for $150-200, more girls asking for $200.
Now girls started asking for $250.
Now more curious are girls asking cos they know IÂ’m a regular or if market rates everywhere gone up like this.

[11Bravo]

Now more curious are girls asking cos they know IÂ’m a regular or if market rates everywhere gone up like this.
I'd say there's a difference between being a regular of a shop and a regular of a girl in a shop. In the former, maybe. In the latter, IME, first rate is the rate you continue to pay UNLESS there's a sea change. How do you know? Well, if everyone everywhere is declining your offers, then...

[Messo]

To those who complain about price rises I ask you this - did you get a pay rise in the last year?

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[GoldfishMan]

Think ppl misunderstood the questions. Yes pay what you feel is reasonable but asking if ppl noticed girls in general asking for a lot more than the normal. In the same shop in late Jan Feb the girls were asking for $100-120 for FS
Then in late Feb - March I noticed girls asking for $150-200, more girls asking for $200.
Now girls started asking for $250.
Now more curious are girls asking cos they know IÂ’m a regular or if market rates everywhere gone up like this.

I've said much earlier in the thread your case sounds like you've made a name for yourself in this 1 shop. The girls do talk to each other and compare notes. You're better off expanding your horizon and trying out other shops, hopefully those girls don't show up there as well.

[Double_Adapter]

Think ppl misunderstood the questions. Yes pay what you feel is reasonable but asking if ppl noticed girls in general asking for a lot more than the normal. In the same shop in late Jan Feb the girls were asking for $100-120 for FS
Then in late Feb - March I noticed girls asking for $150-200, more girls asking for $200.
Now girls started asking for $250.
Now more curious are girls asking cos they know IÂ’m a regular or if market rates everywhere gone up like this.

Bro, you haven't discovered fluctuating market trends, you've developed a reputation in this particular joint.
That price jump you keep harping on about? It's the chicks polite, and professional way of saying “we're not keen on servicing you, but if you’re gonna insist, it’ll cost ya.”

[Newbieguy2025]

Bro, you haven't discovered fluctuating market trends, you've developed a reputation in this particular joint.
That price jump you keep harping on about? It's the chicks polite, and professional way of saying “we're not keen on servicing you, but if you’re gonna insist, it’ll cost ya.”

Thats not true. I travel to fair few popular shops. Im young and while not k-drama level looks, I am fit and courteous - and was quoted $250 a few times.
A lot of the thai girls are trying to make $250 the norm and one of my regulars that charge me $150 told me she quotes everyone $250 now and will never raise my price because she enjoys fucking me (likely bullshitting me so i keep coming as I know she aint worth the 250).

[Double_Adapter]

Thats not true. I travel to fair few popular shops. Im young and while not k-drama level looks, I am fit and courteous - and was quoted $250 a few times.
A lot of the thai girls are trying to make $250 the norm and one of my regulars that charge me $150 told me she quotes everyone $250 now and will never raise my price because she enjoys fucking me (likely bullshitting me so i keep coming as I know she aint worth the 250).

When a chick really enjoys being fucked (and not her fucking you), she won't charge you a single fucken cent.

That's the problem with blokes you'se all thinkin' outside the box; with chicks you gotta think inside the fucken box......if you get my drift. I tell all my chicks I've got a PhD and suddenly it's "Oh wow" with wobbly knees, and pussy tingling like a 9V battery on your tongue. Works like a charm.

[11Bravo]

Bro, you haven't discovered fluctuating market trends, you've developed a reputation in this particular joint.
That price jump you keep harping on about? It's the chicks polite, and professional way of saying “we're not keen on servicing you, but if you’re gonna insist, it’ll cost ya.”


Thats not true. I travel to fair few popular shops. Im young and while not k-drama level looks, I am fit and courteous - and was quoted $250 a few times.
A lot of the thai girls are trying to make $250 the norm and one of my regulars that charge me $150 told me she quotes everyone $250 now and will never raise my price because she enjoys fucking me (likely bullshitting me so i keep coming as I know she aint worth the 250).

Stop, stop, you're both right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7MziVYtAgY
(showing my age but also my lack of onset dementia).

Whenever I get a high price, I think:

1. It never hurts to ask

2. If she's firm on the price, as Double_Adapter noted, it's "No thank you, but if you insist..."

3. Is she worth it to me?


bold for emphasis

A lot of the thai girls are trying to make $250 the norm and one of my regulars that charge me $150 told me she quotes everyone $250 now and will never raise my price because she enjoys fucking me (likely bullshitting me so i keep coming as I know she aint worth the 250).

When a chick really enjoys being fucked (and not her fucking you), she won't charge you a single fucken cent.

That's the problem with blokes you'se all thinkin' outside the box; with chicks you gotta think inside the fucken box......if you get my drift. I tell all my chicks I've got a PhD and suddenly it's "Oh wow" with wobbly knees, and pussy tingling like a 9V battery on your tongue. Works like a charm.
Why do so many not understand "it's just business"? And repeat business is "money in the bank". Also the allure of a discount from the regular price...

Actually, a stable rate is the norm for me, given I fall into the category of "grandfathered"...

I've known a number who have told me, "Tonight, good business, not worth it to you". They can do better on THAT night. But on another... Just business, dynamic pricing.

Some clients I like, others I don't. Some I enjoy working with, some not so much. Regardless, when I leave, my wallet will be more full than when I arrived... as with all professionals. It's a business relationship, not personal.

BTW: My hook is relying on their ingrained culture of respect for their elders.