Ginza club v Ginza empire walk in v booking

[nedinsumlovin]

Brainstrust. wanting to vivit one of these two on the weekend. The websites show similar but different girls and services all seem fairly standard and good for diamond service. Do they do lineups or can I just walk in? I dont like to prebook as i prefer to see what flavour im chasing on the day and also have some flexability with times. Lastlly would both shops offer double shots and available on 45m or just the hour

[MrPaizuri]

Every time I've gone to Ginza, bar once (C Cici - was awesome), I've simply rocked up on a whim told the boys what kind of experience I'm after and they've delivered every time, usually women I wouldn't have considered when I just look at the roster.

Never done less than an hour but I'd say they let you shoot as many times as U can within the time limit.

[blidbla86]

Idk if they do lineups, I’ve never seen it but I always book ahead. Just send them an sms and ask, they’re often so busy at reception tho I imagine it’s annoying to organize a lineup.

I walked in once years ago and they asked what I was into, recommended some girls off the website, I just chose based on photos. I think this is the norm if you just walk in off the street.

1 shot for 30min, 2 shot for 45/60. Inexperienced girls you might need to take the lead and initiate the second round

[neveragain]

Either they only do lineups with high rollers (dropping big bank every week) on the down-low, or they don't do them at all (more likely lol).

Just book a girl whose profile looks good and if you don't like her when she enters just excuse yourself leave the room and go back to reception. The bros will line someone else up for you instead

[Wayne]

I seem to remember a line up at Empire once, but I might be mistaken. Generally shops experiment with lineups occasionally but I should think the girls hate doing them. And when youÂ’ve got such a loyal customer base such as Ginza they are really unnecessary. As others say, just tell the boys (sometime old girl) on the desk what your preferences are and they are always helpful.

[secret0]

Booking is definitely recommended if you are after a specific girl, as popular girls tend to be booked out pretty quickly.
Walk ins are fine, but from what I've seen, you just tell reception the kind of girl you are after and they'll see who's free and recommend a girl, but a lot of times I've seen guys being told there's a wait (like, come back in 30 minutes or whatever).
Pretty sure most of the girls are booked at some point and it's too random that calling them down for a lineup is too much of a hassle for them (though I've seen a couple of punters say they've been able to get a line up at Empire).
If you don't want to book ahead, just do a walk in and tell reception what kind of girl you want (but be prepared for them to be booked out).

Also, no real limit on shots at Ginza. I think some girls take it as a challenge to try and get multiple shots from a guy

[4m3L]

Either they only do lineups with high rollers (dropping big bank every week) on the down-low, or they don't do them at all (more likely lol).

Just book a girl whose profile looks good and if you don't like her when she enters just excuse yourself leave the room and go back to reception. The bros will line someone else up for you instead

Ohh I see. I never tried to excuse and leave the room and go back to reception.

[neveragain]

Ohh I see. I never tried to excuse and leave the room and go back to reception.

Yes just be polite and leave the room ASAP before kissing or hugging the girl. If she's Japanese just say "sumimasen, ikimasu" (pardon me, I'm leaving) I dunno how to say in other languages though.

[Wayne]

And girls sometimes do it too. Happened a couple of times to me with young ladies when they realise I am an old codger. The desk is always understanding and have given me a small discount for another girl. It is all very well handled with a minimum of fuss.

[neveragain]

And girls sometimes do it too. Happened a couple of times to me with young ladies when they realise I am an old codger. The desk is always understanding and have given me a small discount for another girl. It is all very well handled with a minimum of fuss.

At ginza? That wouldn't happen at ginza lol. Only time they'd turn a punter down is if she saw his todger was too big once they got naked

[4m3L]

Ohh. I see . At least they had the rights to turn down the punter on the next session?

[Wayne]

No. I have seen dozens of girls at Ginza over the years. Into the 100s of visits. There was a young Osaka lady, Nozo, I think at Club. I saw her twice. She returned from Japan and I booked her. We chatted and exchanged news. But when it came to the shower she apologised and told me she did not want sex with me. Ok, I said. Went down to the desk and they gave me a full refund and credit for another girl. Another time I booked a first day girl at Empire. Can’t remember her name but she was tiny. She was clearly not comfortable when she came into the room. We chatted and she told me it was her first day. I asked her whether she wanted to see me. She said no, so I left. Same response down at the desk. Full refund. They run a good business there and take care of both their workers and customers.

[neveragain]

No. I have seen dozens of girls at Ginza over the years. Into the 100s of visits. There was a young Osaka lady, Nozo, I think at Club. I saw her twice. She returned from Japan and I booked her. We chatted and exchanged news. But when it came to the shower she apologised and told me she did not want sex with me. Ok, I said. Went down to the desk and they gave me a full refund and credit for another girl. Another time I booked a first day girl at Empire. Can’t remember her name but she was tiny. She was clearly not comfortable when she came into the room. We chatted and she told me it was her first day. I asked her whether she wanted to see me. She said no, so I left. Same response down at the desk. Full refund. They run a good business there and take care of both their workers and customers.

Wow OK. Do you have a huge cock? Or that's definitely not the reason why?

[Wayne]

Wow OK. Do you have a huge cock? Or that's definitely not the reason why?

No, i am very average. I think it is because of my manner. I am old teacher. That kind of gentle authority sometimes puts working girls off their role play. I have been told this multiple times by girls and mama-sans over the years.

[Sinkie]

Walk-in is better since I don’t have to wait if I just ask whoever is available now. Ofc if it’s busy hours you won’t get anyone, it’s common sense

Booking, they messed up my bookings so many times I lost count. Even when they somehow don’t mess up, I still have to wait 10-30 minutes.

[jsw1888]

What's the better venue? Club or empire?

[bigmansam]

Lots of good advice here. If you read a review and it sounds like the girl then book her. Otherwise rock up and tell them what you are looking for. The service from the staff at the desk is impeccable and the politness of the girls when they first meet you is outstanding. The staff at both venues are amazing, even the comedian who works at Ginza Club.

Also go 1 hour, if you cant nut again just lay there with the girl in your arms for a little while and have a cuddle, they enjoy that as much as fucking.

[Cutboy]

What’s the cost for one hour at either of the 2 places?
What do you get for one hour and do you have to pay for extras for DATY, BBBJ etc?

[blidbla86]

What’s the cost for one hour at either of the 2 places?
What do you get for one hour and do you have to pay for extras for DATY, BBBJ etc?

The cost per hour depends on the girl, just have a look https://ginzaroster.com/
An hour varies between 260-380 but the majority are in the 280-310 range
What you get is in the description but the minimum is dfk, daty, 69, pussyslide, shower bbbj, bbbj. CIM is usually standard unless the profile says specifically no cim, rimming is standard for some girls again check description or use the filter on the site above, the only extras are usually like anal, filming, swallow, lesbian doubles
1 shot for 30min, 2 shot for 45/60

[Cutboy]

What’s the opening/closing times for both Club and Empire?

[blidbla86]

What’s the opening/closing times for both Club and Empire?

Both open 10:30, club close 2am, empire 4am, just based on girls shift times

[Cutboy]

Thanks for that mate

[holi_day]

I can't remember the last time I saw a lineup. I just book based on the roster and recommendations from the reception boys.

I always find it limited option if I rock up or the girl cancelled while I am already there.

[GreenJelloC]

Is it normal to be asked to pay up front via transfer for 1s timer?

[Sydlong]

Like guys have said if you want a particular girl, you will probably need to book

The reception guys will offer suggestions, but I also know they try to share the bookings around, so will offer girls who are quiet or get less bookings rather than the popular girls

But what I hate is that you book and then the girl is never ready for that time, at least 10 mins if you are lucky but up to 35 mins waiting for a booking time you made and they confirmed. Empire seems to be worst for this

[ergoproxy]

Like guys have said if you want a particular girl, you will probably need to book

The reception guys will offer suggestions, but I also know they try to share the bookings around, so will offer girls who are quiet or get less bookings rather than the popular girls

But what I hate is that you book and then the girl is never ready for that time, at least 10 mins if you are lucky but up to 35 mins waiting for a booking time you made and they confirmed. Empire seems to be worst for this

Yea. I think my average wait time on empire is about 10-15 minutes. One time it went past 20 and I’ve had to send them an sms whilst I waited in the waiting room.

Club, usually I wait around 10 minutes. And I usually go past my bookings anyway so it’s fine.

[holi_day]

Like guys have said if you want a particular girl, you will probably need to book

The reception guys will offer suggestions, but I also know they try to share the bookings around, so will offer girls who are quiet or get less bookings rather than the popular girls


Not always the case. It depends on what day and time you walk in. If I have the luxury to punt any time, I will go at the quiet time with less customers and more girls available. Walk-in could be a better option.

[Sinkie]

Yea. I think my average wait time on empire is about 10-15 minutes. One time it went past 20 and I’ve had to send them an sms whilst I waited in the waiting room.

Club, usually I wait around 10 minutes. And I usually go past my bookings anyway so it’s fine.

The shitty part is that you know your booking will be late but you can’t come in late in case it’s on time because they’ll be angry at you, or in extreme case give your booking away to someone else (happened to me)

[VERY VERY_HARMSUP]

Yea. I think my average wait time on empire is about 10-15 minutes. One time it went past 20 and I’ve had to send them an sms whilst I waited in the waiting room.

Club, usually I wait around 10 minutes. And I usually go past my bookings anyway so it’s fine.

So aint you part of the problem too? You going past your booking means her next customer gets delayed too and then it just spirals no...?

[Wayne]

So aint you part of the problem too? You going past your booking means her next customer gets delayed too and then it just spirals no...?

The Nagel-Schreckenberg effect.

[ergoproxy]

So aint you part of the problem too? You going past your booking means her next customer gets delayed too and then it just spirals no...?

Domino effect I suppose. But I do try my best to be out on the dot. For example, for my booking on Friday with Rum at 3pm, I didn’t get the room til 3:10, then I keep in mind to be out of the room by 4:10. The reception, in my experience, are quite understanding about this. Especially at times when the girl accompanies me down to the lobby and does a bit more chit chat.

Thats why I often try and book their last slot. So I don’t feel inconveniencing the next guy. 90% of the time, I am lucky enough to be the last slot 😬

[Jack-Jack]

Gee Whiz WTF has this thread divulged too? lmaooo its like a Ginza FAQ section :shout::miao: :miao: :miao:

[Jack-Jack]

Idk if they do lineups, I’ve never seen it but I always book ahead. Just send them an sms and ask, they’re often so busy at reception tho I imagine it’s annoying to organize a lineup.

I walked in once years ago and they asked what I was into, recommended some girls off the website, I just chose based on photos. I think this is the norm if you just walk in off the street.

I doubt Club does proper lineups… I’ve only ever seen it like once in a blue moon i think cos the guys were very horny LOL basically the girl came to reception and the 2 guys that had been patiently waiting in the waiting room got called to reception instead of the girl going to the waiting room but gosh even that was yonks ago.

Empire definitely does lineups esp if theres quite a few girls and customers available though I’ve rarely seen this myself cos a) i book ahead like you and b) often when i'm waiting to pay or give feedback and there's a walkin... There's only a handful of girls available so usually just see them give the punter the feedback then. I reckon its probly more than 6 months ago since i last seen a lineup.

But then again most times i go is peak hr so I've seen reception/waiting room filled with more blokes than the girls avail lol but having said that its not that they strictly dont do lineups just super rare but perhaps those who go non peak might have better odds

I have always been told 30mins is 1 shot

[ergoproxy]

That 30min 1 shot, IÂ’ve only ever seen this with privates, never experienced in brothels. But then again, I kinda fall in that area. I usually book minimum 45 and have had regulars try and squeeze in 1 more shot in the last 5-10 mins. Some have tried but I usually say no (except for Linh from n5m) IÂ’m a 1 shot guy 😅 who takes a while to get it going and loves foreplay.

I think nutting more than twice in 30mins is crazy, in my pov. And I see your point.

But yea, from experience, what happens behind those closed doors is up to the girls. ItÂ’s how they keep us coming back I suppose. Again YMMV.

[chizuru]

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[blidbla86]

Bro is this confirmed with the shop or thats what goes on between the girls/ur experience....?


i edited my post the other day to remove that how did you quote that today :startle:
shop confirmed there is a limit, might want to edit what i said originally out JJ
1 shot for 30min, 2 shot for 45/60

[Jack-Jack]

JJ might be worth editing out some of this. looks like blid clarified with the shop and updated his message..

Huh…? Come again?

[blidbla86]

Huh…? Come again?

check DM :surprise:

[Jack-Jack]

JJ might be worth editing out some of this. looks like blid clarified with the shop and updated his message..

Yea alright mate can u also edit ur post/delete what you are quoting me on if thats what ur preaching.

[Jack-Jack]

That 30min 1 shot, I’ve only ever seen this with privates, never experienced in brothels. But then again, I kinda fall in that area. I usually book minimum 45 and have had regulars try and squeeze in 1 more shot in the last 5-10 mins. Some have tried but I usually say no (except for Linh from n5m) I’m a 1 shot guy �� who takes a while to get it going and loves foreplay.

I think nutting more than twice in 30mins is crazy, in my pov. And I see your point.

But yea, from experience, what happens behind those closed doors is up to the girls. ItÂ’s how they keep us coming back I suppose. Again YMMV.


Yes mate - and that is exactly the point that i am trying to make.

Lets just stick to Shops and WL and ignoring privates... (privates i generally go over time anyway)

There is a BIG difference between what happens behind closed doors is up to the girls and people taking the wrong info as shop policy and taking advantage of the girls especially the newbies.

Of course i am sure there are probly veterans and milfs out there happy to give u more than 1 shot (heck they might even offer it) and they are probly skilled enough/have the energy to make you NUT esp if they are half day harrys and work just the what 6-8hrs or less...

But what i dont want and why i was speaking out was ppl thinking 30mins = more than 1 shot or multishot as a service/shop policy when it clearly isnt and then punters using this info to take advantage of the J girls especially.

The ones who might have a bit of experience but are still green apple/NTI and need leading and working 10-12hrs everyday the last thing you'd want is ppl booking 30mins and asking/demanding for more than 1 shot when its not shop policy

Yes i do alot of 30min sessions but i always say no and inform them 30mins is 1 shot only and i tell reception this happened and to remind the girl when i give feedback - again comparing milfs and veterans to J Green apples is not the same would you drive and take care of ur Bugatti or sports car the same you would a ford/toyota or Kia?


i edited my post the other day to remove that how did you quote that today :startle:
shop confirmed there is a limit, might want to edit what i said originally out JJ
1 shot for 30min, 2 shot for 45/60

yea thanks i thought that was the case, thanks for confirming and updating your post. :prettiness::cool2:

I still had the post saved in draft before it timed out based on the first message so my reply quote was still to the original message.

[chizuru]

Yea alright mate can u also edit ur post/delete what you are quoting me on if thats what ur preaching.

Missing the point entirely mate, was never attacking you..
I literally quoted that part of the post randomly to stop having the incorrect message posted again and again since blid already confirmed/updated his post.

Was a gentle nudge to say "hey its been updated" and quoting that part was me saving myself from having to keep coming back to check and remove the double quote.
Nothing negative with what you said, it was just obvious from your post timing that blids message no longer appeared that way.

I don't want people taking advantage of the workers just as much as you and given some of the "colourful" customers ginza can deal with I wanted it deleted.
Some people will just see it and assume the truth so better to remove it than not.

[Jack-Jack]

Missing the point entirely mate, was never attacking you..
I literally quoted that part of the post randomly to stop having the incorrect message posted again and again since blid already confirmed/updated his post.

Was a gentle nudge to say "hey its been updated" and quoting that part was me saving myself from having to keep coming back to check and remove the double quote.
Nothing negative with what you said, it was just obvious from your post timing that blids message no longer appeared that way.

I don't want people taking advantage of the workers just as much as you and given some of the "colourful" customers ginza can deal with I wanted it deleted.
Some people will just see it and assume the truth so better to remove it than not.

Oh I missed the mark.. sorry I’m still confused… so have I done it correctly now mate? If not just tell me what you want me to write/post or u could reply to my pm too.

[chizuru]

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[pbkd]

the only extras are usually like anal, filming, swallow, lesbian doubles
1 shot for 30min, 2 shot for 45/60

Any idea what a tip for anal would tend to go for? Long time since I've gone that route (at Club actually, a good few years before Empire was a thing). I'm feeling pretty safe saying that it's not still the old 'standard'ish price of $50. So - $100? More?

[blidbla86]

Any idea what a tip for anal would tend to go for? Long time since I've gone that route (at Club actually, a good few years before Empire was a thing). I'm feeling pretty safe saying that it's not still the old 'standard'ish price of $50. So - $100? More?

Most current girls that I can see that have a price for it are charging $200
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=859 Jenny
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=20 Vanilla
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=184 Mari

Others might be diff since no price listed (eg https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=128 Kathy) but yea probs not $50 anymore lol

[HiredGoon]

Any idea what a tip for anal would tend to go for? Long time since I've gone that route (at Club actually, a good few years before Empire was a thing). I'm feeling pretty safe saying that it's not still the old 'standard'ish price of $50. So - $100? More?

$200 seems to be the going rate at Ginza

[Jack-Jack]

this one jack https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?164550-Ginza-club-v-Ginza-empire-walk-in-v-booking&p=4176518&viewfull=1#post4176518 just remove blids quote post

Done and PM'd you.....

[Jack-Jack]

Any idea what a tip for anal would tend to go for? Long time since I've gone that route (at Club actually, a good few years before Empire was a thing). I'm feeling pretty safe saying that it's not still the old 'standard'ish price of $50. So - $100? More?


Most current girls that I can see that have a price for it are charging $200
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=859 Jenny
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=20 Vanilla
https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=184 Mari

Others might be diff since no price listed (eg https://ginzaroster.com/?girl=128 Kathy) but yea probs not $50 anymore lol

Yep what blid said definitely not $50 no more thats like historical prices.... $50 barely gets you much even at Massage shops nowadays

re the price range for Anal best to check with the girl i believe some have a price range listed in profile to account for dick sizer?

[chizuru]

Done and PM'd you.....

I have no dm mate, did you send it?

[Jack-Jack]

Brainstrust. wanting to vivit one of these two on the weekend. The websites show similar but different girls and services all seem fairly standard and good for diamond service. Do they do lineups or can I just walk in? I dont like to prebook as i prefer to see what flavour im chasing on the day and also have some flexability with times. Lastlly would both shops offer double shots and available on 45m or just the hour

So u end up getting any love and action? :miao:

[Jack-Jack]

I have no dm mate, did you send it?

Yea mate sent on thurs and just replied to it.

[BlueyGunn]

When would be the busiest times to avoid if you just want a walk in?

[blidbla86]

When would be the busiest times to avoid if you just want a walk in?

just walk in whenever mate or sms and ask, you can't tell when people are gonna be horny. I've walked in at like 3pm on a weekday and there's been 2 girls free, and 9pm on a Friday night and there's been 6-7
Generally Fri night and sat/sun are the 'busy' days though as you would expect