Sunshine Dayspa bait and switch

[Not again]

Booked Japanese Yuki. Confirmed with the if she is Yuki. She said she Yuki. Agreed prices and below average service. Towards end, she slipped a hint she is Chinese. I asked her again if she really was Yuki. She admitted she is not Yuki. Too late to argue or refund. Contacted shop number to complain. Shocking replies.

[Scenic]

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Sorry folks, finally got access to my old account. After this shop management was stuffing around. Also I was receiving text messages and calls from unfamiliar numbers. With the help of QPS connections, learned oneof numbers belong to a Chinese national with surname "Cai". I will publish more screenshots daily basis, probably you will not want to visit the shop after seeing them all.
Here, replies claim boss told her late about Yuki not coming. Later management claimed girl deceived me and got fired for that. Will post all that daily basis

[harry444]

Mate, just get over it.

[Scenic]

Mate, just get over it.
Wait till I share more of their replies

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Mate, just get over it.

I agree. Get over it Scenic. You’ve gone from being a “victim” of a bait and switch (haven’t we all) to being part of a criminal enterprise by involving members of the QPS. A cop who checks information like you have stated will be dismissed and criminally charged, facing jail time. Anyone else involved, ie you, faces charges and similar consequences. And now you’ve made a public admission of your criminal actions. Step away now before you get in too deep and the shop owner reports this to the authorities. Or don’t - up to you. My advice only.

[Hermes At Home]

From what I know, Jackie is away on holiday at the moment, and the shop phone is handled by the girls themselves.

girls claiming to be someone else to pick up an extra booking isn't unheard of. I've run into it at all kinds of places, from well-known shops to small independents, so it's pretty hard to avoid completely.

I'd just chalk this one up as bad luck and not let it ruin your day. Hopefully your next experience is a much better one.

[Itsnotimportant]

Can confirm Jackie is or has been away on holidays, Jackie herself told me she was going away about 1 month ago.

The wechat rosters have been comming in quite late and have also been edited during the day quite a bit over the last 2 or 3 weeks.
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[sholmes]

Yep, I got told Jackie was on holidays as well few days ago. So, all this was just BS. Like the previous guy said, if this was the 1st time in living history that girls (acting on their own) claimed they were someone else to get more business, fair enough.. But it's not so, the OP is either naive (or has a chip on his shoulder).

[thunder545454]

You went there saw the girl looked wrong, that was the time to make the complaint.

Not after you fucked her and got home hours later, if you were unhappy, why did you go ahead with the appointment, I agree bait and switch is wrong, but why the fuck did you go along with it?

I had a girl once, start sneezing 10mins into a session, she said it pulled a muscle and asked if I had to change a girl, I was ok with it, if I wasn't the time and place to say something was right there and then, not hours later after im back home.

Shit happens you sounds like a pussy who didn't say something in the moment, then ran home want to txt message like a weirdo.

[Scenic]

Guys, thanks for your input. I will give you whole story. It is bit difficult after having a sore shoulder.
* I texted shop and asked for roster. Booked Yuki (I have not seen Yuki and I don't book Chinese for many reasons)
* Went to shop, told I am Yuki's 10am. Girl directed me to a room. Paid shop fee
* "Yuki" showed up, I asked her to light up the rrom, she showed me thats the maximun.
* She introduced herself as Yuki. Halfway through offered extra menu. Paid for extras. Then everything went south.
*It was like she was on drugs. Jumped on shoulder causing me shoulder pain.
* I asked her are you really Yuki? She said darling I am Yuki. I thought, this is not good, I will walk away, yeah will bear the cost
*She used her translator, obviously spoke Mandarin to her hone, translated "why aren't you satisfied?"
* I asked her "you spoke Chinese? So you are not Yuki. She gave me a sarcastic smile. I walked out thinking, I should report this to Jacky
* As soon as left the shop, texted shop number.
* You hvw seen some of replies. Also received these too.
* That didn't stop there. I was receiving nuisance calls and weird text messages. I will share themafter seeing Jacky (shoop refferedowner as he, I thought Jacky has sold, but you guys clea147076147077red that)

[Itsnotimportant]

Very odd - jackie herself would be horrified at that exchange im sure.

[Hero96]

Guys, thanks for your input. I will give you whole story. It is bit difficult after having a sore shoulder.
* I texted shop and asked for roster. Booked Yuki (I have not seen Yuki and I don't book Chinese for many reasons)
* Went to shop, told I am Yuki's 10am. Girl directed me to a room. Paid shop fee
* "Yuki" showed up, I asked her to light up the rrom, she showed me thats the maximun.
* She introduced herself as Yuki. Halfway through offered extra menu. Paid for extras. Then everything went south.
*It was like she was on drugs. Jumped on shoulder causing me shoulder pain.
* I asked her are you really Yuki? She said darling I am Yuki. I thought, this is not good, I will walk away, yeah will bear the cost
*She used her translator, obviously spoke Mandarin to her hone, translated "why aren't you satisfied?"
* I asked her "you spoke Chinese? So you are not Yuki. She gave me a sarcastic smile. I walked out thinking, I should report this to Jacky
* As soon as left the shop, texted shop number.
* You hvw seen some of replies. Also received these too.
* That didn't stop there. I was receiving nuisance calls and weird text messages. I will share themafter seeing Jacky (shoop refferedowner as he, I thought Jacky has sold, but you guys clea147076147077red that)

Someone calling us - all..."horny losers" haha. How can we all fight-back now? :-))

[Blt]

Speaking Mandarin into a translator and saying “I’m Japanese”, then having it translated into English, is actually pretty funny.

[themort]

Wait till I share more of their replies

Wait until your "mate" at QPS gets reamed for abusing police database access...

[RivalSiteSpy]

You went there saw the girl looked wrong, that was the time to make the complaint.

Not after you fucked her and got home hours later, if you were unhappy, why did you go ahead with the appointment, I agree bait and switch is wrong, but why the fuck did you go along with it?

I had a girl once, start sneezing 10mins into a session, she said it pulled a muscle and asked if I had to change a girl, I was ok with it, if I wasn't the time and place to say something was right there and then, not hours later after im back home.

Shit happens you sounds like a pussy who didn't say something in the moment, then ran home want to txt message like a weirdo.

You're 100% right IMO, it's obvious he's got an axe to grind. He's now posting 'Sunshine Bait and switch' under unrelated SSDS threads (see review SSDS Bunny) he's butthurt as hell by the looks of it.

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[nametai]

Just let it go. Your friend at the QPS should be losing his/her job for doing what they did. If ML has any brains, she can easily make a counter claim against you and the officer now for harassment. To be clear, it is a criminal offence, what your QPS connection did.
Learn some Japanese, check earlier. Bait and switch is the oldest trick in the book.
Thanks for taking one for the team.

[RamJet2002]

Wait until your "mate" at QPS gets reamed for abusing police database access...

If anyone cares enough, feel free to make a complaint to the police, it should be sent to ethical standards, where they can review anyone who has accessed the database and searched the number OP has posted (0404630018). Afaik it's a criminal offence to use police systems to search, distribute and share personal information of a person, especially for a friend who feels like they were baited and switched at a rub and rug (lol).

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/policelink-reporting/feedback-launch

[Scenic]

Just let it go. Your friend at the QPS should be losing his/her job for doing what they did. If ML has any brains, she can easily make a counter claim against you and the officer now for harassment. To be clear, it is a criminal offence, what your QPS connection did.
Learn some Japanese, check earlier. Bait and switch is the oldest trick in the book.
Thanks for taking one for the team.

Thanks mate, my QPS friend is safe. My friend made a note only entry, I am only sharing certain information, it it comes to something like you mentioned, I have another way which I can't mention here. She got agitated because I walked out, then I complained to shop number straight away, I was expecting Jacky to respond.
Anyway I will see Jacky when she returns and talk it out. She will be horrified to see some of responses from shop number, I have shared only a few here. And will delete or alter this post after that

[harry444]

Scenic, I'm sure you have been wronged, and we all feel for you. I've been there, but I walked out after the event and shrugged it off. I'm not suggesting you have problems, because I don't know the whole incident, but you really need to do some inner contemplation as to whether your actions are appropriate.

[thunder545454]

It takes two idiots meeting to escalate things to this level.

Seeing more txts yes the girls obviously a scummy little bitch and youre being a sensitive little bitch.

For every random good punt I reckon ive had a random bad punt aswell and 5% of the time I get completely fucked over somehow even top shops like 5 star I've shown up for a morning appointment and the girl just hasn't turned up for work, I shrug and go about my day, if everytime I had a shit experience going to a massage place it spiraled me like it does you I would have lost my mind long ago.

Toughen the fuck up your a man not a chick.

[Scenic]

Scenic, I'm sure you have been wronged, and we all feel for you. I've been there, but I walked out after the event and shrugged it off. I'm not suggesting you have problems, because I don't know the whole incident, but you really need to do some inner contemplation as to whether your actions are appropriate.

I can'tsay much here. I could have taken legal actions but I chose not to. Girl is on a temp visa. As I said I will catchup with Jacky.

[Scenic]

It takes two idiots meeting to escalate things to this level.

Seeing more txts yes the girls obviously a scummy little bitch and youre being a sensitive little bitch.

For every random good punt I reckon ive had a random bad punt aswell and 5% of the time I get completely fucked over somehow even top shops like 5 star I've shown up for a morning appointment and the girl just hasn't turned up for work, I shrug and go about my day, if everytime I had a shit experience going to a massage place it spiraled me like it does you I would have lost my mind long ago.

Toughen the fuck up your a man not a chick.

I am glad you could let out your pressure.

[Rodrigez]

I can'tsay much here. I could have taken legal actions but I chose not to. Girl is on a temp visa. As I said I will catchup with Jacky.

What would you expect her to do?

[Kingpoo]

I envy your situation. My bait and switch was with a ladyboy and had a suspicion when she/he didnt want to go nude so I left lol

[Scenic]

What would you expect her to do?
Thats between meand her but thank you for your interest

[Rodrigez]

Thats between meand her but thank you for your interest

So why share all this shit, if you would rather keep it to yourself?

[toga]

So why share all this shit, if you would rather keep it to yourself?


Maybe to boast up his own ego? Make him feel he's in control? Who knows.

But what he's thinking as an option, is to dob her in to Immigration. He posted enough clues to this (e.g. saying she's on a temporary visa). He can't get her on criminal charges, he won't win in a civil case as he saw her before paying the money to her for the massage then the extras. So last option for revenge is Immigration and / or Tax Office (and if she has declared taxable earnings already, they won't proceed on his tip off without actual evidence).

So we can see how a "dog" presents himself on here. Not the first time either unfortunately.

[ABCguy]

Holy shit, this is a forum for punters to give information. He is giving text evidence and information and warning about the low quality he experienced - exactly what this forum is intended for. It's so cringe to say "get over it", you might as well say "get over it" to every bad review or warning that happens. Please just fuck off white knights.

[harry444]

So many unknowns here. Yes, the girl's response was less than perfect, but from what I've managed to glean from Scenic's attitude, I would say it was justified.

[sholmes]

So many unknowns here. Yes, the girl's response was less than perfect, but from what I've managed to glean from Scenic's attitude, I would say it was justified.

There's usually something deeper at play in these cases, usually the driver (for this kind of behaviour) is a feeling of inadequacy or incompetence in some other sphere of his life that he then feels the need to compensate for. Maybe his hife has withheld marital favours (for whatever reason) so, being thirsty as hell, he was expecting God knows what out of his visit to a massage parlour. Obviously, his visit having fallen well short of his expectations, made him go full nuclear. So much so, he's even provided enough info (implicating his friend) in this thread for anyone who has read it to make a complaint to Corruption Commission that could land his friend into serious trouble. And all of this, over what..? A fucking bait and switch, a staple/101 of punting FFS. Could have just walked.

[Blt]

Mate, that's one hell of a psychological profile from a massage forum post.

[SGBAnnerley]

It's a well known that many ( mainland ) Chinese gals are notorious for bait and switch, and also providing lackluster/minimal service and trying to get maximum price. Has been going on for years. Some of them are ok, but most are not

If a girl advertises as being Japanese and is Chinese ( a LOT of that going on ) she is a liar and men need to boycott.

Next time, just walk away, you have named and shamed, thats good, but no need to go on some continuous idiotic rant. This particularly gal is nasty and rude, but don't obsess over it.

You have a bad punt occasionally, just warn others, and don't go back if she is still there.

[SGBAnnerley]

Holy shit, this is a forum for punters to give information. He is giving text evidence and information and warning about the low quality he experienced - exactly what this forum is intended for. It's so cringe to say "get over it", you might as well say "get over it" to every bad review or warning that happens. Please just fuck off white knights.

Yes, I think there are too many white knights out there, including on this forum, who feel sorry for some MLs/WL s when they don't deserve any sympathy.

If it's proven a girl is lying, she is operating under false pretenses, or if she consistently provides poor service, she 100 percent deserves to be named and shamed, and a boycott put in place. The massage business is a service industry, if certain ML s can't be truthful and/or provide decent service, they should just get out of the business. They are basically getting paid huge money ( tax free) for performing fairly unskilled work.

However, having said that, one or two negative reviews on two or so forums is enough, it can be left at that.

[blake_ly]

a mod probably should step in and shut this discussion down.

the gist of it is this, you contacted a shop, a shop phone responds with a bait and switch (probably by the one person who is the switch?).

you had a nasty exchange probably with the same person since J is away.

so the issue is one bad apple, and you're exposing a shop on a public forum because of it.

[Itsnotimportant]

Not excusing whoever sent thoes texts, but i was in there today, prebooked an ML id seen a couple of time before (2 hour advance booking from inital contact), - it was like fine come in at x time.

I showed up a that time, requested ML instantly recognise me, she was talking to another ML when we met, however neither ML had any idea about the booking.

So a hug and kiss, and then a request to go and get ready, she comes in 5 minutes later, and says - I have to see another client - Ill be 15 minutes.

5 minutes later she comes back and says, its ok i am not needed.

I ended up going from the massage room to the bathroom twice during the 1 hour session, for thoes who dont know the "waiting room" for the ML's at SSDS is between the massage rooms and bathroom, both times i went past the "waiting room" the other 2 girls on the roster today were just sitting there watching the phone.

Jackie is still gone (i asked), but its becomeing very clear to me that she really did not have much of a plan B for booking or staff managment in her absence.

I feel a bit sorry for the girls really, they are trying to handle stuff that they are clearly not trained to do, and the fact that they dont speak english very well does not help them either.

I was very tempted to say them- hey ill hang around and help with the bookings and messages if you want - this is something i do every day for my work.

Maybe i should ask Jackie when she gets back if she wants to employ a "booking agent", in exchange for some "Fringe Benefits" :)