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andrewv
06-07-2026, 06:26 PM
From Sydney Morning Herald https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/all-hopes-destroyed-teen-lured-into-underage-sex-work-in-sydney-20260703-p60cfs.html

"All hopes destroyed": Teen lured into underage sex work in Sydney

A woman trafficked from Indonesia into underage sex work in Australia has shared her ongoing trauma as two men await sentencing for the “planned and sophisticated” scheme.
By day, Surya Subekti worked as a manager at Coles and doughnut store Krispy Kreme. By night, he was a key player in an international sex-trafficking ring which lured vulnerable women and girls from Indonesian slums to work in Sydney brothels.


The 45-year-old from Bayside in SydneyÂ’s south travelled to Indonesia and worked with local contacts to arrange fake visa documents and bring a 17-year-old girl to Australia. The documents falsely reported she was the daughter of an older woman whom she travelled to Australia with. Subekti guided the girl and her pretend mother to pass immigration smoothly.


During the teenagerÂ’s 53 days in the country, Subekti controlled her movements and made her perform 10-12 hours of sex work, seven days a week. He said he would withhold her income until she returned to Indonesia.


Another syndicate member, 32-year-old bus driver Elton Valentino, was paid an annual salary of $50,000 to take the girl to three brothels almost daily.
In a victim impact statement read out on behalf of the woman at Downing Centre District Court on Friday, she described being happy and healthy before she came to Australia, having never experienced trauma, fear or anxiety.


Syndicate members had introduced her to a man named “Batman”, who offered her work in Australia. Hoping for financial independence and a promising future, she overcame fears of language barriers and culture-shock and accepted the offer.


Upon landing, she was taken into sex work. She needed permission to leave the brothels and could not do so alone.




“I always had someone following my movements. I felt as though I was being monitored and controlled all the time,” she said.


“I worked long hours, and the type of work was a shock to my body”.


The woman described the horrific moment she experienced blood loss and debilitating cramps for a month. When it became so severe she struggled walking, she was hospitalised and diagnosed with a sexually transmitted infection.


First, she was told her wages would be withheld for a month. Then she learned she would not get paid while she was in the country. She “accepted” this as she did not understand local laws.


One brothel was raided while she was there, something she described as “frightening … chaotic and stressful”. She began experiencing panic attacks and emotional instability. Now, she said, “the tiniest things” evoked anger or sadness.


“It is now difficult for me to trust other people, as I am fearful my experiences will be repeated,” she said.


“I can no longer feel what it is like to be happy. I feel that all the hopes that I once held have been destroyed”.


Subekti and Valentino were arrested under Operation Mirani, an AFP-led investigation formed in December 2022 in response to intelligence alleging foreign nationals were arriving in Australia and being forced into sexual servitude.


In July 2024, Subekti became the first Australian charged under Mirani.


The Crown submitted Subekti executed a planned and sophisticated scheme aimed at exploitation.


Defence lawyers argued his moral culpability was lowered because the girl was already a sex worker in Indonesia and had signed a contract before departing. However, prosecutors countered that as a child, she was legally unable to consent.


Judge Nicole Noman expressed credibility issues with a psychology report detailing SubektiÂ’s mental health diagnoses including generalised anxiety disorder and major depressive disorder. The court heard he was a problem gambler, though supporting evidence was limited. His sister gave tearful evidence about his family being blindsided by his double life.


Prosecutors conceded Valentino’s financial gain was modest compared to Subekti’s, but noted he was well aware of the harmful work as he would act as a liaison for the girl’s “problem clients”. While the defence argued that he should be given credit for acting somewhat “protectively”, the Crown rebutted that he only behaved this way after exposing her to the risks.


Subekti pleaded guilty to organising the entry of a child to provide sex services and causing a person to enter or remain in forced labour. Valentino admitted to transporting a child with intent to provide sex services.


In a statement released upon Subekti’s arrest, AFP Detective Acting Inspector Emmanuel Tsardoulias said that organised crime syndicates “will exploit any opportunity for profit, including trafficking human beings”.


“We understand it can be incredibly difficult for vulnerable victims to come forward, and we want to assure them that there is help and protection available.”
The pair will be sentenced this week.

Torsil
06-07-2026, 07:07 PM
Yes, a little. I am 55 and I like women 40 and upwards, so I never have any problems with them being underage. That being said you can never truly know the situation of the lady if she is under any coercion to perform her work. If I ever sensed a woman truly did not want to be doing what she was doing, I would ask her situation and if she was a victim, I would call the police. Any man who traffics a woman like, deserves to be in jail receiving the same treatment.

11Bravo
06-07-2026, 07:41 PM
Yes, particularly horrific with underage. But don't fool yourself, can happen with any age, adults. Promised civilian work turns into sex work. Even if she knows it will be sex work, she might not understand the conditions. Good money for simply having sex. Except she's controlled, racking up debts: accommodation (no say where or how much rent charged), food (no say), transportation (no say), repaying the plane ticket, no say in hours, employers, etc., etc. A ledger is kept, which she never sees, never knows her outstanding balance. Just knows she still has one. If she runs, possible threats to family back home. A lot of shit in this world.

Doesn't happen in just brothels, could happen in MP's. With all due respect to LE, how quickly will they come if they receive a report? Full raid or welfare check? Do they act immediately or perhaps an investigation, verify the report, or maybe take some time to assemble the SWAT vehicles and SUV'S and notify the press. Leaks? There was a raid, but LE didn't detect her ("well, golly-gee, she didn't say anything").

As I posted elsewhere: life imprisonment for traffickers. For the employing brothels/shops: first offense, HEAVY fine. Subsequent offense, all assets forfeited. "Well, her papers LOOKED valid" insufficient. Due diligence mandatory.

You might want to think about what you'd do if confronted with this situation, "Please help me". Simply a ploy for money, or... And in Oz land, it's simple. Offshore...

andrewv
06-07-2026, 08:19 PM
Regardless of their age, most workers (be they FS or massage/HJ) would be too afraid to tell you that they are working there under duress when the trafficker has their passports and threatened to harm their families back home, and refuse to pay them, etc.

If I sensed they are not willing participants and choosing to work there, I would file an anonymous report on the NSW Police website. The fear, of course, is getting dragged into a court case as a witness, and if you are married/attached, it could put that relationship at risk, etc.

Turning a blind eye and saying it is not your business is, in my view, very unconscionable.

Linq
06-07-2026, 09:18 PM
I only did a quick skim. This is like really unsurprising within the expectations by Australian standards. Fucked up things happens in Sydney all the time. You clearly haven't been in Australia or alive long enough lol.

Anyway stop reading the news, it's a waste of time lol.

If anything the girls probably made up some lies so they can gain from it. Don't believe anything. You'd be surprised (you, not me) how much society runs on bullshit lol

I want to rly reiterate i probably spent no more than 30 seconds on OPs post. Read the first bolded part and rolled my eyes and thought "oh it's your standard run of the mill 'lets create outrage news article'". K brah.

I_luv_doggie.
06-07-2026, 09:24 PM
What those cunts allegedly did was absolutely a dog & terrible act. If guilty, then they should be locked up for a long time with the hope that the Bros fuck them up the arse day in and day out.

Animals with no respect for a fellow human being. This is nothing do to about Sydney. Lowlifes are worldwide.

Linq
06-07-2026, 09:27 PM
What those cunts allegedly did was absolutely a dog & terrible act. If guilty, then they should be locked up for a long time with the hope that the Bros fuck them up the arse day in and day out.

Animals with no respect for a fellow human being. This is nothing do to about Sydney. Lowlifes are worldwide.
Who cares, it doesn't affect any of us. Let the news meet their KPI so they have food on the table, let the police, defence lawyers and judge meet their KPI so they have food on the table lol

I_luv_doggie.
06-07-2026, 09:54 PM
Who cares, it doesn't affect any of us. Let the news meet their KPI so they have food on the table, let the police, defence lawyers and judge meet their KPI so they have food on the table lol

Good for you sunshine.

Linq
06-07-2026, 10:02 PM
Good for you sunshine.
Well, you reacted exactly as the news article wanted you to lol. They got you outraged and hence on the hook. Why bother expressing and performing morality when we all know human society is built on filth. Infact, how did you think this country even started, lol?

You have to understand bad shit happens in Sydney all the time and most of them don't even bother to make the news, if the news reported on every human transgression the reader would just get numb and stop caring. They inject enough just to keep the reader hooked. Stop performing outrage and just detach lol. Realest advice here

I_luv_doggie.
06-07-2026, 10:58 PM
Well, you reacted exactly as the news article wanted you to lol. They got you outraged and hence on the hook. Why bother expressing and performing morality when we all know human society is built on filth. Infact, how did you think this country even started, lol?

You have to understand bad shit happens in Sydney all the time and most of them don't even bother to make the news, if the news reported on every human transgression the reader would just get numb and stop caring. They inject enough just to keep the reader hooked. Stop performing outrage and just detach lol. Realest advice here

Fuck off idiot. I”l react how ever I want to. I don’t follow the Murdoch outrage journos.

You sound like Borat’s cousin.

Never read such immature imbecilic drivel.

At the end of day, you believe that, then may the force be with you. Free country.

That village is missing someone.

andrewv
06-07-2026, 11:11 PM
Well, @Linq, you should go to court and witness the statements of facts and allegations presented there. It's where the newspaper got its information from.
Forcing women to work in any role, especially sex, is a crime. You probably don't like reading that word: C-R-I-M-E. We punters should not be consumers of criminal activities.
Now go and froth up in the mouth, then put your head in the sand.


I only did a quick skim. This is like really unsurprising within the expectations by Australian standards. Fucked up things happens in Sydney all the time. You clearly haven't been in Australia or alive long enough lol.

Anyway stop reading the news, it's a waste of time lol.

If anything the girls probably made up some lies so they can gain from it. Don't believe anything. You'd be surprised (you, not me) how much society runs on bullshit lol

I want to rly reiterate i probably spent no more than 30 seconds on OPs post. Read the first bolded part and rolled my eyes and thought "oh it's your standard run of the mill 'lets create outrage news article'". K brah.

Linq
06-07-2026, 11:14 PM
Well, @Linq, you should go to court and witness the statements of facts and allegations presented there. It's where the newspaper got its information from.
Forcing women to work in any role, especially sex, is a crime. You probably don't like reading that word: C-R-I-M-E. We punters should not be consumers of criminal activities.
Now go and froth up in the mouth, then put your head in the sand.
What was your point? The courts have a never-ending backlogs of cases. If anything, you've just proved my point. Most court cases don't even show up on the news let alone the ones that never makes it to court. Also, the court system is performative. If you can't prove it in court it means it never happened lol. So that means if you don't keep records of everything and one day you have to prove it but can't? False convictions happen for a reason. Courts arent a finder of truth, it's a finder of facts from the presented evidence lol.

I think i read somewhere only 1% of police reports ends in a conviction lol.

andrewv
06-07-2026, 11:15 PM
It seems that Mr @Linq here has no qualms about paying to fuck a woman who is forced by criminals to service him.
And he would have no issues enjoying it too. How low could things get....


Well, you reacted exactly as the news article wanted you to lol. They got you outraged and hence on the hook. Why bother expressing and performing morality when we all know human society is built on filth. Infact, how did you think this country even started, lol?

You have to understand bad shit happens in Sydney all the time and most of them don't even bother to make the news, if the news reported on every human transgression the reader would just get numb and stop caring. They inject enough just to keep the reader hooked. Stop performing outrage and just detach lol. Realest advice here

Linq
06-07-2026, 11:19 PM
It seems that Mr @Linq here has no qualms about paying to fuck a woman who is forced by criminals to service him.
And he would have no issues enjoying it too. How low could things get....
Yeah i saw that sort of rhetoric coming. Never lose an opportunity to tout morality points. Stop pretending you care brah lol

11Bravo
07-07-2026, 06:27 AM
Most court cases don't even show up on the news let alone the ones that never makes it to court. Also, the court system is performative. If you can't prove it in court it means it never happened lol. So that means if you don't keep records of everything and one day you have to prove it but can't? False convictions happen for a reason. Courts arent a finder of truth, it's a finder of facts from the presented evidence lol.
It's a concept called "innocent until PROVEN guilty" with EVIDENCE. Better that 10 guilty go free than one innocent be incarcerated.

Most likely you've never served on a jury, as given "a jury of peers", thankfully, you have few peers and would readily be excused. So if you don't like the system here, emigrate (aka "take a hike").

As Grouch Marx once said, "There's my argument: Restrict immigration".

AGS1980
07-07-2026, 06:30 AM
Well, you reacted exactly as the news article wanted you to lol. They got you outraged and hence on the hook. Why bother expressing and performing morality when we all know human society is built on filth. Infact, how did you think this country even started, lol?

You have to understand bad shit happens in Sydney all the time and most of them don't even bother to make the news, if the news reported on every human transgression the reader would just get numb and stop caring. They inject enough just to keep the reader hooked. Stop performing outrage and just detach lol. Realest advice here

You really are a dopey flog!!

Linq
07-07-2026, 06:32 AM
It's a concept called "innocent until PROVEN guilty" with EVIDENCE. Better that 10 guilty go free than one innocent be incarcerated.

Most likely you've never served on a jury, as given "a jury of peers", thankfully, you have few peers and would readily be excused. So if you don't like the system here, emigrate (aka "take a hike").

As Grouch Marx once said, "There's my argument: Restrict immigration".
You don't dictate my life.

And "innocent until PROVEN guilty" isn't a real concept but I'm not going to educate you on it.

Linq
07-07-2026, 06:34 AM
You really are a dopey flog!!
Nobody here actually cares. The difference is I'm not pretending by performing moral outrage for social points. If anything, I'm better.

11Bravo
07-07-2026, 06:45 AM
And "innocent until PROVEN guilty" isn't a real concept but I'm not going to educate you on it.

Thank you, you just confirmed my hypothesis. You've obviously never received jury instructions...

Linq
07-07-2026, 06:46 AM
Thank you, you just confirmed my hypothesis. You've obviously never received jury instructions...
Think as you please brah. It's a free country

secret0
07-07-2026, 05:39 PM
Nobody here actually cares. The difference is I'm not pretending by performing moral outrage for social points. If anything, I'm better.

https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?144969-Indian-this-Indian-that-Hey-how-about-the-17-year-old-girl-raped-by-Arabs-for-6-hours

lol, you were 'performing' so well here though. So much for 'better'