Felt like I wasted my money

[Stormy]

Very new to this, so apologies if I get any terms wrong.

Went for a RnT for the first time today and felt like I wasted my money. ML looked beautiful in photos, slightly out of preference but thought it was my first time so why not Come booking time and shes nearly 10 minutes late, I thought, whatever thats fine it happens. she walks into the room and does the typical greetings and whatnot, then immediately says, i'm only offering CBJ today and its $150 (on top of the $70 for 45mins). the massage was okay, nothing much to talk about. she flips me over and asks if i wanted to get started straight away, naturally i say yes, and she gets to business, complimented about my unexpected size and begins with a okay CBJ, bit of teeth but i think thats due to my curve.

upon finishing, she cleans me up and says i'll massage you for the last 5 minutes, so im thinking, wow that was a quick 45mins. it was only until i was walking out the door, I realised that we ended early by about 15 minutes. should I talk to the shop about the service or should i take this as a learning experience? how many of you guys went back or messaged them about unsatisfactory service?

[Johnisfun1969]

Very new to this, so apologies if I get any terms wrong.

Went for a RnT for the first time today and felt like I wasted my money. ML looked beautiful in photos, slightly out of preference but thought it was my first time so why not Come booking time and shes nearly 10 minutes late, I thought, whatever thats fine it happens. she walks into the room and does the typical greetings and whatnot, then immediately says, i'm only offering CBJ today and its $150 (on top of the $70 for 45mins). the massage was okay, nothing much to talk about. she flips me over and asks if i wanted to get started straight away, naturally i say yes, and she gets to business, complimented about my unexpected size and begins with a okay CBJ, bit of teeth but i think thats due to my curve.

upon finishing, she cleans me up and says i'll massage you for the last 5 minutes, so im thinking, wow that was a quick 45mins. it was only until i was walking out the door, I realised that we ended early by about 15 minutes. should I talk to the shop about the service or should i take this as a learning experience? how many of you guys went back or messaged them about unsatisfactory service?



As long as you had fun probably not. Next time perhaps keep an eye on the clock. Once you cum jobs done. Some girls give pathetic massage so no point in lingering around for the bell to rings ring.

Often when you repeat ML they may get to know you and your preference. Option is to book 30 min next time.

[badone]

As long as you had fun probably not. Next time perhaps keep an eye on the clock. Once you cum jobs done. Some girls give pathetic massage so no point in lingering around for the bell to rings ring.

Often when you repeat ML they may get to know you and your preference. Option is to book 30 min next time.

$150 is a bit rough , check out some of the reviews to get an idea on price - seems like she was in a rush - it happens unfortunately they want you out asap - so once you have cum , pretty much your done.

[jackdaniels]

It's all a learning experience. You will have many more poor experiences over time trust me.

[APuntAWeek]

DonÂ’t stress, just sounds like you went to a pretty average shop. My first punt was a dud as well (at Ginza of all places). Probably a mix of sky high expectations, nerves and anxiety.

Just reset, spend some more time in the AR section to find a highly rated girl/shop and give it another crack in a few weeks.

[94wreckers]

For all we know it could just be a lousy communication from the desk to the service provider causing the error. However, depending on what shop... its probably unlikely

[Warden]

I'd say it has been a kind of learning experience.

[blidbla86]

Massage bros I've never had one but I just don't understand, OP paid $220 for 30min CBJ at that price you could just get full service at a brothel. If you wanna have fun why do you go to massage shops? Do you actually go for the massage and enjoy it and the happy ending is a bonus?
Just seems like you pay so much for fuck all compared to what you get at a brothel. Like if you want a shit massage the brothel girls also give them if you want them lol. Some of these stories I read you have to go multiple times before you're even offered anything, seems crazy.
Not having a go honestly just really curious why a massage shop if you're looking for anything sex related

[APuntAWeek]

Massage bros I've never had one but I just don't understand, OP paid $220 for 30min CBJ at that price you could just get full service at a brothel. If you wanna have fun why do you go to massage shops? Do you actually go for the massage and enjoy it and the happy ending is a bonus?
Just seems like you pay so much for fuck all compared to what you get at a brothel. Like if you want a shit massage the brothel girls also give them if you want them lol. Some of these stories I read you have to go multiple times before you're even offered anything, seems crazy.
Not having a go honestly just really curious why a massage shop if you're looking for anything sex related

I go to both FS shops and RNTs. IÂ’ll mix it up between $170-$270 for a 45 min massage + bodyslide/FS at an RNT or $200-$300 for a 30/45 min session at a FS shop. Sometimes I leave the massage sessions more satisfied because the service can be better, I get to be lazier, and 30 straight minutes of TT before the flip can do more for me than a shower BBBJ and catbath.

Also, from my experience, MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. I hypothesise that hotter girls prefer a choice in who they offer FS to, and gravitate to working at an RNT, instead of getting piped 10 hours a day at a FS shop.

[jsw1888]

Thats pretty steep, i have a regular $30 for CBJ. Originally was $50, but once i brought 3 x $50 or a $120 45/min, she asked if i wanted a CBJ 'i want to eat your yummy sausage' are her exact words 😅😅, i apologised and said i only had the $30 chqnge and said maybe next time, she said 30 was fine and that's the price now

[maguro]

Very new to this, so apologies if I get any terms wrong.

Went for a RnT for the first time today and felt like I wasted my money. ML looked beautiful in photos, slightly out of preference but thought it was my first time so why not Come booking time and shes nearly 10 minutes late, I thought, whatever thats fine it happens. she walks into the room and does the typical greetings and whatnot, then immediately says, i'm only offering CBJ today and its $150 (on top of the $70 for 45mins). the massage was okay, nothing much to talk about. she flips me over and asks if i wanted to get started straight away, naturally i say yes, and she gets to business, complimented about my unexpected size and begins with a okay CBJ, bit of teeth but i think thats due to my curve.

upon finishing, she cleans me up and says i'll massage you for the last 5 minutes, so im thinking, wow that was a quick 45mins. it was only until i was walking out the door, I realised that we ended early by about 15 minutes. should I talk to the shop about the service or should i take this as a learning experience? how many of you guys went back or messaged them about unsatisfactory service?

Which shop is this?

[maguro]

Also, from my experience, MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. I hypothesise that hotter girls prefer a choice in who they offer FS to, and gravitate to working at an RNT, instead of getting piped 10 hours a day at a FS shop.

90% WLs also work in RNT joints.

You'll get FS everywhere you go.

[Sinkie]

MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. That is not for debate.
They’re also more mentally sane and just closer to a normal civilian.

[secret0]

Massage bros I've never had one but I just don't understand, OP paid $220 for 30min CBJ at that price you could just get full service at a brothel. If you wanna have fun why do you go to massage shops? Do you actually go for the massage and enjoy it and the happy ending is a bonus?
Just seems like you pay so much for fuck all compared to what you get at a brothel. Like if you want a shit massage the brothel girls also give them if you want them lol. Some of these stories I read you have to go multiple times before you're even offered anything, seems crazy.
Not having a go honestly just really curious why a massage shop if you're looking for anything sex related

I've always wondered this myself, and the common answer I see on the threads is that they like the chase. Seeing a girl multiple times and having to work a little bit to unlock FS. I get it that for some they unlock without having to pay extra, but most have to pay on top of the entry fee, so pay more than they would at a brothel. But again, it's playing the game they like more than the actual end goal it seems.

[phamily]

Also, from my experience, MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. I hypothesise that hotter girls prefer a choice in who they offer FS to, and gravitate to working at an RNT, instead of getting piped 10 hours a day at a FS shop.

Nail and head mate.

I would much rather a ML that is selective with who she fucks than a WL that doesn't have a say.

[Warden]

MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. That is not for debate.
They’re also more mentally sane and just closer to a normal civilian.

I am confused about this: MLs more attractive than WLs... generally.. well if you had to go in blind maybe that would be a consideration but since there are reviews and pictures etc it seems to me that even if on average MLs are prettier you just have to pick a WL that beats that.. and there are som WLs that objectively are really really attractive.

On the mental sanity, unfortunately I often wonder why a nice WL with great skills would put herself in a position to have zero choice on her clientele (a part from the occasional no indians). Yes I know, money, but not really. A great WL that understood how Sydney works could charge a bit more as private and given that the cut is much more even having half the clients would be fine,,
I guess I ll keep pondering..

[jackodude89]

90% WLs also work in RNT joints.

You'll get FS everywhere you go.

I actually think this is pretty accurate. Though I would say more like 80%. Certainly the large majority in any case. Anyone who thinks their adored ML is "just a ML" is being very naive. I think a lot of them are also ex WLs who have "retired" to massage shops after doing their time in the WL space. Money is less of course, but they must feel they can claw back some element of control.


MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. That is not for debate.
They’re also more mentally sane and just closer to a normal civilian.

Not so sure about this, seen plenty of averge MLs, but probably a mostly correct statement.


I've always wondered this myself, and the common answer I see on the threads is that they like the chase. Seeing a girl multiple times and having to work a little bit to unlock FS. I get it that for some they unlock without having to pay extra, but most have to pay on top of the entry fee, so pay more than they would at a brothel. But again, it's playing the game they like more than the actual end goal it seems.

Can attest to this myself. Going to a brothel feels less rewarding because its given to you on a silver platter. MLs (even though they were probably WLs before and have no qualms about FS and BBBJ/CIM etc etc) have this allure of being somehow more innocent and provide the thrill of the chase, which lets fact it, is pretty exciting. It's like a video game where you need to unlock skills in a skill tree. If all the skills were readily availableto your character right from the beginning then it's somehow less fun. Just my 2c.

[coldtowel]

Massage bros I've never had one but I just don't understand, OP paid $220 for 30min CBJ at that price you could just get full service at a brothel. If you wanna have fun why do you go to massage shops? Do you actually go for the massage and enjoy it and the happy ending is a bonus?
Just seems like you pay so much for fuck all compared to what you get at a brothel. Like if you want a shit massage the brothel girls also give them if you want them lol. Some of these stories I read you have to go multiple times before you're even offered anything, seems crazy.
Not having a go honestly just really curious why a massage shop if you're looking for anything sex related

Methinks it’s about validation and the ego. If an ML has sex with you, she’s chosen to do it when she could’ve said no. She’s validated you, and it’s a boost to the ego.

An WL, on the other hand, (mostly) has no choice, so there’s no validation. You had sex with her? Yeah, but so did 10 other guys today, so you’re nothing special.

[blidbla86]

Intresting responses thanks for the perspective everyone


MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. That is not for debate.
They’re also more mentally sane and just closer to a normal civilian.

I'd say it's for debate just considering the amount of massage threads I've read where the blokes like 'the girl came in and was old and unattractive but i thought fuck it and got the happy ending anyway'. Anecdotal evidence but there hasn't been an instance with a WL at ginza that I've seen where I have ever thought anything along those lines.
Also bro why you constantly implying WLs have mental issues lol, they're just as 'normal' as everyone else out there, just cause they have sex for work doesn't mean they're unhinged. There is no other job I can think of that's so easily accessible where a pretty young girl with no qualifications and can't speak the language can make like $7k-10k a week.


I've always wondered this myself, and the common answer I see on the threads is that they like the chase. Seeing a girl multiple times and having to work a little bit to unlock FS. I get it that for some they unlock without having to pay extra, but most have to pay on top of the entry fee, so pay more than they would at a brothel. But again, it's playing the game they like more than the actual end goal it seems.

Pretty much the conclusion I've come to as well, seems to be the chase & validation cause the value for money isn't there imo.


I am confused about this: MLs more attractive than WLs... generally.. well if you had to go in blind maybe that would be a consideration but since there are reviews and pictures etc it seems to me that even if on average MLs are prettier you just have to pick a WL that beats that.. and there are som WLs that objectively are really really attractive.

On the mental sanity, unfortunately I often wonder why a nice WL with great skills would put herself in a position to have zero choice on her clientele (a part from the occasional no indians). Yes I know, money, but not really. A great WL that understood how Sydney works could charge a bit more as private and given that the cut is much more even having half the clients would be fine,,
I guess I ll keep pondering..

Again I'd say ML more attractive than WL is up for debate and probably depends where you go. I'm sure there are massage shops you go to and you're gonne get mamasan where you think ahh shit, and shops where you get a stunner give you a R&T. Same applies for brothels, depending where you go you're gonna get both ends of the spectrum.
As for being a private, there's more to it and less protection than if you're working for a shop. You either have to have customers come to your home or rent an incall location, handle all your bookings, deal with screening, time wasters, no shows etc, do all the laundry and cleanup, you are essentially alone if they get rough or violent, you can get robbed and all of this is more daunting when you're English is limited vs at a shop you might have less say about who you see but you just have to show up and clock out once you're done, it's much 'easier'.

[94wreckers]

Massage bros I've never had one but I just don't understand, OP paid $220 for 30min CBJ at that price you could just get full service at a brothel. If you wanna have fun why do you go to massage shops? Do you actually go for the massage and enjoy it and the happy ending is a bonus?
Just seems like you pay so much for fuck all compared to what you get at a brothel. Like if you want a shit massage the brothel girls also give them if you want them lol. Some of these stories I read you have to go multiple times before you're even offered anything, seems crazy.
Not having a go honestly just really curious why a massage shop if you're looking for anything sex related

Myself personally, I follow the talent first and foremost. If I see a chick on a roster that interests me... it doesnt matter where she works... I wanna see the girl.
Second part of that is, ITS A PUNT ! I can go and see the girl in real life, see if theres a connection, if she matches the photo, if the service is good etc etc. If I dont like something, I can easily just pay the pineapple for the NHJ and get the fuck out. But if that was a full service place.... id be down 220$ at minimum and have to fuck somebody im not liking just to get my moneys worth. In the massage shop.... if im liking what I see, then I just pay the extra $$$ and get the full service and it works out the same. But there is the potential to save the $120 + no pressure to fuck a shit punt + not limited to only half the shops in sydney.

Perfect example last week. Ive been wanting to see that indian Deepika from PBM & SGM. She does FS but its an Ai photo, punters say she matches the photo... But i got there and she looked nothing like it, didnt feel an energy in the room, nothing... nada. She wanted to fuck me but I still rejected her. My wanting to fuck her went way downhill. So I just took my NHJ and got out and saved my $120 and now I have all the info. DONE ! Happy days.

IDGAF about the chase. What chase.... youre paying for a service girl... theres no such thing as a chase when you're paying for it LOLLLL

At the end of the day, each person is different. This is just me. Whatever the spread out reasons are.... it keeps these shops open and gives the girl an option just like 'APuntAWeek' said.

Thanks for reading

[maguro]

Also, from my experience, MLs are generally more attractive than WLs. I hypothesise that hotter girls prefer a choice in who they offer FS to, and gravitate to working at an RNT, instead of getting piped 10 hours a day at a FS shop.

I go to massage shops instead of FS shops.

99% of the girls work there offer FS. I haven't had a refusal so far.

I would be kidding myself if I think that they specially select me and I am the special one to them.

[APuntAWeek]

I go to massage shops instead of FS shops.

99% of the girls work there offer FS. I haven't had a refusal so far.

I would be kidding myself if I think that they specially select me and I am the special one to them.

I didnÂ’t mean that as to suggest anyone is special for getting offered FS, or that it means the ML likes you. Moreso that the ML has freedom to reject. They are probably only rejecting 5-10% of people that see them, but thatÂ’s more freedom than they would get by working at a FS shop.

I imagine that as long as you donÂ’t stink and arenÂ’t hugely endowed, you are getting offered FS - regardless of your appearance/charisma.

[woods23]

Myself personally, I follow the talent first and foremost. If I see a chick on a roster that interests me... it doesnt matter where she works... I wanna see the girl.
Second part of that is, ITS A PUNT ! I can go and see the girl in real life, see if theres a connection, if she matches the photo, if the service is good etc etc. If I dont like something, I can easily just pay the pineapple for the NHJ and get the fuck out. But if that was a full service place.... id be down 220$ at minimum and have to fuck somebody im not liking just to get my moneys worth. In the massage shop.... if im liking what I see, then I just pay the extra $$$ and get the full service and it works out the same. But there is the potential to save the $120 + no pressure to fuck a shit punt + not limited to only half the shops in sydney.

Perfect example last week. Ive been wanting to see that indian Deepika from PBM & SGM. She does FS but its an Ai photo, punters say she matches the photo... But i got there and she looked nothing like it, didnt feel an energy in the room, nothing... nada. She wanted to fuck me but I still rejected her. My wanting to fuck her went way downhill. So I just took my NHJ and got out and saved my $120 and now I have all the info. DONE ! Happy days.

IDGAF about the chase. What chase.... youre paying for a service girl... theres no such thing as a chase when you're paying for it LOLLLL

At the end of the day, each person is different. This is just me. Whatever the spread out reasons are.... it keeps these shops open and gives the girl an option just like 'APuntAWeek' said.

Thanks for reading

Thanks, that was a very good read!

And please every one. Dont pay $150 for only cbj. They think you're stupid. ( Unless she's 10 /10 )

[Stormy]

Which shop is this?

The shop was LSM, with Tilly

[Warden]

Myself personally, I follow the talent first and foremost. If I see a chick on a roster that interests me... it doesnt matter where she works... I wanna see the girl.
Second part of that is, ITS A PUNT ! I can go and see the girl in real life, see if theres a connection, if she matches the photo, if the service is good etc etc. If I dont like something, I can easily just pay the pineapple for the NHJ and get the fuck out. But if that was a full service place.... id be down 220$ at minimum and have to fuck somebody im not liking just to get my moneys worth. In the massage shop.... if im liking what I see, then I just pay the extra $$$ and get the full service and it works out the same. But there is the potential to save the $120 + no pressure to fuck a shit punt + not limited to only half the shops in sydney.

Perfect example last week. Ive been wanting to see that indian Deepika from PBM & SGM. She does FS but its an Ai photo, punters say she matches the photo... But i got there and she looked nothing like it, didnt feel an energy in the room, nothing... nada. She wanted to fuck me but I still rejected her. My wanting to fuck her went way downhill. So I just took my NHJ and got out and saved my $120 and now I have all the info. DONE ! Happy days.

IDGAF about the chase. What chase.... youre paying for a service girl... theres no such thing as a chase when you're paying for it LOLLLL

At the end of the day, each person is different. This is just me. Whatever the spread out reasons are.... it keeps these shops open and gives the girl an option just like 'APuntAWeek' said.

Thanks for reading

very interesting POV, I guess I value more my time than the money and saving 100-150 is not worth the "missed good fuck"; but I totally see what you mean and of course I had my terrible punts..
I guess one aspect that is very important to me is the service, quality and number of things offered. With a ML to get Ginza type of service I would end up paying 400+ for maybe half the time and half the services?