Can you tell if she truly likes you?

[project_manager006]

Let's just say a girl thinks you're the scum of the earth but is dating you because of your money - do you think you could see through that, or do you think you'd fall for it and think she genuinely likes you for you?

I have a white friend who just hooked up with a fob Asian girl. He's quite a slob, fat and not good looking at all. They had only been going out for a month and she already moved in with him. I can sorta see this thing going down the path of her needing him for a visa/citizenship, then she splits and takes half his shit. I'm not gonna warn him, because he's not gonna believe me and I'd lose the friendship, but I am kinda amused at how blind he seems to be.

Even for me, sometimes if a really hot girl smiles at me in the gym or in the street, I always think she has an ulterior motive (I am not attractive, but not ugly either, so figure I'd attract mediocre girls).

[cuimd2]

ye very high chance, that shes after your friend's money or citizenship, is the girl very pretty? if so than its even more likely.

"Even for me, sometimes if a really hot girl smiles at me in the gym or in the street, I always think she has an ulterior motive"
lol the girl might just be in a good mood, or she just wants to make a friend.

[Littlewonder]

Why worry about it just be carefull just cause the chap is not what you consider attractive doesnt mean she doesnt see something in him that she likes. Life is too short if every time a girl looks at you or goes out with you you think she is only after your money then you will end up a lonley old man.

Best approach is to take it as fact every girl is only after your money, then move one the only question left then is how much do you have and how much are you going to let them get. Where the problem comes in is your dick takes over and you loose control of how much they get etc.

Have fun enjoy live money was made round to go round no use dying and leaving it to the kids have fun use it to enjoy yourself.

[handbanana]

I've got two words for your friend - pre nup.

[DeepImpact]

The way to always test this is for him to tell her that he has just had an investment that went bad and that he doesn't have much money any more and they will need to go out less and she needs to start paying rent. It won't take long before you find out if it is genuine or not and no one will get hurt in the process.

[AHLUNGOR]

Well, may be money can buy true love - as long as the money don't run out !!

Look, money is a great big leveller when it comes to mutual attractions, this world is usually so unfair, you look at all those lovely young ladies got fucked by dirty ugly and smelly old men, is that fair ?? So if an attractive lady can see herself living a comfortable life and no need to worry about money matters, than why not? especially if the guy actual loves her. The alternative, work in the industry and have to suck and fuck ten times more stranger everyday who may be even more ugly !! the answer is very simple.

I think a pre nup will be a wise thing to do for your friend. Otherwise, half of his wealth for a three years (that's how long it takes for the visa shit right??) marriage could seem expensive, but hey, if he thinks its worth it, who are we to judge ??

Good luck to him though.

Cheers

[DeepImpact]

Well, may be money can buy true love - as long as the money don't run out !!

Look, money is a great big leveller when it comes to mutual attractions, this world is usually so unfair, you look at all those lovely young ladies got fucked by dirty ugly and smelly old men, is that fair ?? So if an attractive lady can see herself living a comfortable life and no need to worry about money matters, than why not? especially if the guy actual loves her. The alternative, work in the industry and have to suck and fuck ten times more stranger everyday who may be even more ugly !! the answer is very simple.

I think a pre nup will be a wise thing to do for your friend. Otherwise, half of his wealth for a three years (that's how long it takes for the visa shit right??) marriage could seem expensive, but hey, if he thinks its worth it, who are we to judge ??

Good luck to him though.

Cheers

Having said that, love is sometimes blind. You must have heard a women say at some stage 'I am good looking, so I don't need a good looking guy'. Most will know that as a good looking girl they attract a lot of attention so they can assume that a good looking guy will have the same experience so the danger is in a few years time she won't be quite as good looking so the guy will look for someone better and because a lot of guys can get better looking with age or at least not go backwards as fast as the ladies there is a higher risk he will leave her based on her looks in the future rather than her leaving him because he is not as attractive in a few years time.

[Travelmate]

It is not too difficult to see whether the girl really like you or not.

But of course it cannot be 100% accurate.

The reality can go further to few other matters:

1. Do you "like" her, just "care" about her, "having good impression" of her, or "love" her? This implies different level of engagement. Vice versa...

2. Is she just one of your sex toy? Is this all what you want from her? Or you want her to be part of your everyday life?

3. Can you afford to keep her?
a> Finaancaially
b> Time
c> Mentally and spiritually?
D> PHYSICALLY?


I may make things too complicated .....

Just my 2 cents
2.

[AHLUNGOR]

Having said that, love is sometimes blind. You must have heard a women say at some stage 'I am good looking, so I don't need a good looking guy'. Most will know that as a good looking girl they attract a lot of attention so they can assume that a good looking guy will have the same experience so the danger is in a few years time she won't be quite as good looking so the guy will look for someone better and because a lot of guys can get better looking with age or at least not go backwards as fast as the ladies there is a higher risk he will leave her based on her looks in the future rather than her leaving him because he is not as attractive in a few years time.

Yeah, sure, I totally believe that, there are still plenty of girls telling me that I am good looking............hahha...........even though I have to pay for it ...........lol

[Travelmate]

Yeah, sure, I totally believe that, there are still plenty of girls telling me that I am good looking............hahha...........even though I have to pay for it ...........lol

You are good looking in deed ... SIR

[AHLUNGOR]

It is not too difficult to see whether the girl really like you or not.

But of course it cannot be 100% accurate.

The reality can go further to few other matters:

1. Do you "like" her, just "care" about her, "having good impression" of her, or "love" her? This implies different level of engagement. Vice versa...

2. Is she just one of your sex toy? Is this all what you want from her? Or you want her to be part of your everyday life?

3. Can you afford to keep her?
a> Finaancaially
b> Time
c> Mentally and spiritually?
D> PHYSICALLY?


I may make things too complicated .....

Just my 2 cents
2.

Speaking from your wealth of experiences no doubt brother Mate !! and full of convictions too.............haha

Cheers

:smile:

[Travelmate]

Speaking from your wealth of experiences no doubt brother Mate !! and full of convictions too.............haha

Cheers

:smile:

NO... I am just generalize from a lot of different men opinion ...

..Ahlungor, I heard you are very good looking ....

[wilisno]

..Ahlungor, I heard you are very good looking ....

Whoa ! You're not proposing anything are you ? Hahaha, just kidding ! ;) ;) ;)

[Travelmate]

I am porposing Ahlungor.. to become a PAPASAN full time

[Jj999]

Having said that, love is sometimes blind. You must have heard a women say at some stage 'I am good looking, so I don't need a good looking guy'. Most will know that as a good looking girl they attract a lot of attention so they can assume that a good looking guy will have the same experience so the danger is in a few years time she won't be quite as good looking so the guy will look for someone better and because a lot of guys can get better looking with age or at least not go backwards as fast as the ladies there is a higher risk he will leave her based on her looks in the future rather than her leaving him because he is not as attractive in a few years time.

But I believe real love wouldn't be based on looks.
If it based on how he/she looks like. Then by the time when he/she reach 60, what do you think would happen?

But I'm not going to believe bullcrap saying real love doesn't take money/wealth into consideration.

That's just logical and reality on how people make a decision.
He/she would weigh all of factor. And of course money/wealth is one of them. it's just the degree of importance is not the same for every person.
Some young girl wouldn't mind marrying 50years old man if the guy is listed on the forbes list.
Some are not.
Some doesn't mind marrying an average guy.

But of course, nobody would marry someone without money. And is unlikely to get money in the foreseeable future.

[Jj999]

No.
I know that money is not going to be my tool to attract. And it has never become my tool.
And attracting lady with money only isn't going to work well for the long term.
In fact, if you walk and pass me, you just won't notice me. As I looks like totally an average guy.
I don't have shiny watches on. I don't have branded stuffs on my whole body. Nothing to be noticed.
But I do have girlfriend and ex-girlfriends.

What I'm saying in the last sentence is literally.
So it is literally no money. Zero. Nil.
No asset, nothing.

So do you still think it is possible?

I mean, say an equation.
So what I'm saying is that money has never left out of this equation.

It is always a factor. However small/minuscule it is.

[Jj999]

With all due respect bro, I think that last sentence reflects a lack of life experience.

A man can be charming/romantic/intelligent/cultured/funny/etc etc etc, without two pennies to his name and a bunch of good looking well-to-do women will be tripping over each other to win his heart and hand in marriage.

I suspect men who believe that wealth is their most sellable feature are the ones who attract shallow gold digging types and end up signing prenups to safeguard against the inevitability disintegration of that relationship

I give you one story, which is possible to happen.
A guy who is good looking, romantic. Unfortunately, not so intelligent, and a super lazy guy. His motto is why work when you have money from your parents already.
He's in his 30's, lives with his parents, never have job, and the parents doesn't seems like to have anything to leave for him later.
This guy have zero asset. And also, he only have money when his parents gives him. That money is just enough to spend moderately and go to bar once a week to look for girl and later bring her to hotel. That's it.
Holding everything else constant.
So, do you think, any possibility, anyone marry him?


Man, don't go too far.
Just see the face of passersby when a homeless asking for coins.
So, do you still think a dream world, where money is out of equation of love, exists? Even a very small consideration counts. That's what I mean.
Show me if you think it is.

Marrying someone with lower income doesn't count as love without considering money. That is still money.

[wilisno]

I give you one story, which is possible to happen.
A guy who is good looking, romantic. Unfortunately, not so intelligent, and a super lazy guy. His motto is why work when you have money from your parents already.
He's in his 30's, lives with his parents, never have job, and the parents doesn't seems like to have anything to leave for him later.
This guy have zero asset. And also, he only have money when his parents gives him. That money is just enough to spend moderately and go to bar once a week to look for girl and later bring her to hotel. That's it.
Holding everything else constant.
So, do you think, any possibility, anyone marry him?


Man, don't go too far.
Just see the face of passersby when a homeless asking for coins.
So, do you still think a dream world, where money is out of equation of love, exists? Even a very small consideration counts. That's what I mean.
Show me if you think it is.

Marrying someone with lower income doesn't count as love without considering money. That is still money.

Yep, even if a couple married for love, they still can divorce for money, money problem that is !

[IExperiment]

I am porposing Ahlungor.. to become a PAPASAN full time

He should become a Papasan he would make a good one, roster always updated and new girl will be put through the test using two hands not one :)

[IExperiment]

Yep, even if a couple married for love, they still can divorce for money, money problem that is !

What your saying is true when it gets ugly and I always say I only wanted couple hundred grand as I can start again and you keep the rest but after the war die down than she said you can have everything, she said I dont wanted anything I am going back overseas to be with my family blah blah blah comes out plus suicidal very scary !!! do I have a psycho with me !!! sometimes I can't find her for a few hours and made me worry but I said fuck it I wanted to teach her lesson, the next thing happens the cops came and knock on the door saying you better keep an eye on her as it is not safe out there really late at night damn I am basterd this scenario happen quite a lot int he past. She could have gotten rape or worse but I am such a basterd. Thanks goodness this was 5 to 6 years ago now she is fully trained everything is well :)

[Travelmate]

What your saying is true when it gets ugly and I always say I only wanted couple hundred grand as I can start again and you keep the rest but after the war die down than she said you can have everything, she said I dont wanted anything I am going back overseas to be with my family blah blah blah comes out plus suicidal very scary !!! do I have a psycho with me !!! sometimes I can't find her for a few hours and made me worry but I said fuck it I wanted to teach her lesson, the next thing happens the cops came and knock on the door saying you better keep an eye on her as it is not safe out there really late at night damn I am basterd this scenario happen quite a lot int he past. She could have gotten rape or worse but I am such a basterd. Thanks goodness this was 5 to 6 years ago now she is fully trained everything is well :)

good on you brother!

[wilisno]

What your saying is true when it gets ugly and I always say I only wanted couple hundred grand as I can start again and you keep the rest but after the war die down than she said you can have everything, she said I dont wanted anything I am going back overseas to be with my family blah blah blah comes out plus suicidal very scary !!! do I have a psycho with me !!! sometimes I can't find her for a few hours and made me worry but I said fuck it I wanted to teach her lesson, the next thing happens the cops came and knock on the door saying you better keep an eye on her as it is not safe out there really late at night damn I am basterd this scenario happen quite a lot int he past. She could have gotten rape or worse but I am such a basterd. Thanks goodness this was 5 to 6 years ago now she is fully trained everything is well :)
When I said divorce for money, I didn't mean this scenario, I meant a couple can separate when they run into financial difficulties !

[wilisno]

My brother graduated from uni with a law degree, but has never practiced a day in his life. As far as I know he has never held a job for longer than a few months at a time and at the age of 33 he has no real work experience to fall back on. The only wealth he has is the cash in his wallet, which I assume is not much.

He is a very nice guy, he's funny and charismatic, generous and never has a bad word to say about anyone. He has lots of friends and girls love him (he's been married/divorced twice, and swings very easily from one gf to the next)

His ex wives were both good looking young professional women. Sure they bugged him about doing nothing much with his life but they were happy to support him financially for years, they didnt care that he was broke as a church mouse the whole time.

Its true, no woman would see a dirty homeless hobo on the street and fall in love. But if a man has certain other qualities and attributes a lack of money is not necessarily a deal breaker
So he divorced twice after all !

The reason they haven't divorced earlier was because the wives could support him financially, so they were never in financial difficulties, if both of them were broke, they would have divorced much earlier. That's what I meant in my earlier post.

[Jj999]

My brother graduated from uni with a law degree, but has never practiced a day in his life. As far as I know he has never held a job for longer than a few months at a time and at the age of 33 he has no real work experience to fall back on. The only wealth he has is the cash in his wallet, which I assume is not much.

He is a very nice guy, he's funny and charismatic, generous and never has a bad word to say about anyone. He has lots of friends and girls love him (he's been married/divorced twice, and swings very easily from one gf to the next)

His ex wives were both good looking young professional women. Sure they bugged him about doing nothing much with his life but they were happy to support him financially for years, they didnt care that he was broke as a church mouse the whole time.

Its true, no woman would see a dirty homeless hobo on the street and fall in love. But if a man has certain other qualities and attributes a lack of money is not necessarily a deal breaker

May I know the reason of divorce?
:smile:

You don't need to say if you feel uncomfortable to say it.

[DeepImpact]

What I'm saying in the last sentence is literally.
So it is literally no money. Zero. Nil.
No asset, nothing.

So do you still think it is possible?

I mean, say an equation.
So what I'm saying is that money has never left out of this equation.

It is always a factor. However small/minuscule it is.

I think what you say is more or less correct in developed countries. There are always those really poor countries that have no money but they still get married and have kids. Come to think of it, it may proportionately cost them more if they need to pay a dowry such a 2 cows or a donkey etc. Maybe that's why they have some arranged marriages.

[Jj999]

I think what you say is more or less correct in developed countries. There are always those really poor countries that have no money but they still get married and have kids. Come to think of it, it may proportionately cost them more if they need to pay a dowry such a 2 cows or a donkey etc. Maybe that's why they have some arranged marriages.

I'm not a guy who was born in a developed country. It's Asia by the way.
So naturally, I'd be easier become friend with guys from the less developed one, our culture seems similar.

I hardly hear stuff like this in my country though..

So one of my Indonesian friend told me this, we were talking about this so called "love without money". Because it sounded so funny in our ear.

However, I concede, probably if a dream world where money is out of equation of love exist, I'd say, this is the closest one, though for a short period of time.

I've just remembered how it was. Thanks for reminding me.

Because marriage is something very sacred for those guys living in rural area (low education and low exposure to modern world of course), when a couple wants to marry, they would ask for permission from their parents. It's called a permission, and a permission it is. Not just a formality.
If it's no, then a no it is. Usually though, a no is because their families have too much different in wealth, so rich family feel the social class is different.
Then, traditionally, the marriage won't proceed.

If a respect to parents is bigger than their so called "love", even though hard, they would accept the decision.
If not, they would elope. With no plan, with nothing.

Just go somewhere where they "think" they can live better life.
And the obvious choice was Jakarta.
And later regret their decision and the so called "love" ends.
When they learn the reality is very harsh.
When they realised money/wealth is important.
Most would choose to be a beggar.
Some girls end up a WL, and hoping when a rich guy appear to sponsor her permanently.
The one who choose to be a beggar though, also regret it.
They just have no choice. I said why, how do you know.
He said, "hey man, I live there man, and personally, I have never seen a beggar whose look is even close to average. Even if she looks like as "fresh beggar". None is even close to average. So that means the average or above average girls, have become WLs, or maybe just killed herself, that's an easy solution for hardship especially in a place like Jakarta where money is the language."

So lol.
I don't know whether their short lived "love without money" really exist. Or they just elopes and thought I'd be okay, because job would be easy to get, and actually money remained there in the equation though being hid nearly perfect.

I'm not going to continue the discussion. Seems very lame talking this long about this in a sex forum.
LOL.
Get real.

[hell no]

So all poofters and lesbians living together must have wealthy same sex partners........

If i was a rich kunt i can convert lesbos into loving me.....I've always loved carpet munchers, it's time i shall turn these lesbos into my ragdolls.........LOL..

[DeepImpact]

Thats a very interesting story about some peoples lives in Indonesia. Thanks for sharing it Jj999

[Sillyboy]

JJ brother, I'm not from Indo but I do have knowledge about their culture. Moving from a rural area to Jakarta is akin to any country developed or not where they move to the big city where they try strike it rich & improve their life.

Regardless they may struggle to find good employment of their choice if their skills aren't enough but there are plenty of different occupations that Indo's choose and not just as beggars or WL if they struggle. Maybe I misread it but it's such a generalization.

Plenty of low level work available in Jakarta although the pay is disgustingly low but there are alot more alternatives before someone chooses to be a beggar or WL I would think

[Sillyboy]

As for asking for parents permission, I think that's a time honored tradition of most cultures whether Indo, Asian, European, western ect... Some cultures stricter than most but the common decency is to ask for parents permission but ultimately rests on the couples own decision

[AHLUNGOR]

Can you tell if she truely likes you??

How about a highly skilled masseurs in a legit shop gave you BBBJ one day with some water in the mouth just to cool you down because she accidentally rubbed some tiger palm oil on to your dick!!

[Mozilla]

my rules is.....

IF SHE SWALLOW... she loves you. oh... she has to smile AFTER swallowing.. else it dont count.

[Mozilla]

oh i forgot... only downside is that you will know she loves you but..... WILL YOU KISS HER AGAIN.....oooooooooo....

[wilisno]

my rules is.....

IF SHE SWALLOW... she loves you. oh... she has to smile AFTER swallowing.. else it dont count.
Go see Sammi of BlueMoon, she'll love you then ! Or the Yamada girls !

[8inches]

There is a few reasons why hot girls date not so attractive older men, believe it or not some girls prefer lesser attractive, overweight men because these guys have less chance of fooling around due to their looks and the girl feels more secure.
Also if the guy is a lot older and in bad shape chances are he won't be alive for long so she'll get her hands on his fortunes a lot quicker than being with a healthier guy.
In some countries being an over weight man is a symbol of wealth and happiness.
So next time you see a fat old guy with a hot young girl this could be 1 of the reasons besides have a visa.

[Travelmate]

YAMADA SIR..
his girls swallow and smile ... and you have to pay..

this does not mean they really like you at all

[8inches]

Also I forgot to add that in some asian countries having a caucasian boyfriend is fashion and half cast babies are very sought after by females.


There is a few reasons why hot girls date not so attractive older men, believe it or not some girls prefer lesser attractive, overweight men because these guys have less chance of fooling around due to their looks and the girl feels more secure.
Also if the guy is a lot older and in bad shape chances are he won't be alive for long so she'll get her hands on his fortunes a lot quicker than being with a healthier guy.
In some countries being an over weight man is a symbol of wealth and happiness.
So next time you see a fat old guy with a hot young girl this could be 1 of the reasons besides have a visa.

[Travelmate]

Also I forgot to add that in some asian countries having a caucasian boyfriend is fashion and half cast babies are very sought after by females.

very very true... even in Australia too

[8inches]

I noticed while traveling through thailand, philippines and other south east asian countries many of the tv stars are half cast and in some cases female actresses were getting plastic surgery such as widening of the eyes and making their nose pointy to give them that eurasian look.
As most of you guys know eurasian girls here get away with charging a lot more than full blooded asian girls.

[Licker]

Can you tell if she truely likes you??

How about a highly skilled masseurs in a legit shop gave you BBBJ one day with some water in the mouth just to cool you down because she accidentally rubbed some tiger palm oil on to your dick!!

Are you talking from personal experience bro? :cool2:

[Licker]

Also I forgot to add that in some asian countries having a caucasian boyfriend is fashion and half cast babies are very sought after by females.

Oh, so that's why I'm getting freebies from WL's that are 15 years younger than me.

They must be really bummed out when I insist wearing a condom :cry:

[Travelmate]

Oh, so that's why I'm getting freebies from WL's that are 15 years younger than me.

They must be really bummed out when I insist wearing a condom :cry:

It is not just for caucasian guy... i guess

[project_manager006]

Just been thinking about this some more...don't think it's resolved anything, apart from one wise bro's suggestion to lie about an investment gone bad.

This girl I am with...when I am with her it seems so genuine, yet I find myself keeping one eye open...are girls just that good at being fake??

[Travelmate]

Just been thinking about this some more...don't think it's resolved anything, apart from one wise bro's suggestion to lie about an investment gone bad.

This girl I am with...when I am with her it seems so genuine, yet I find myself keeping one eye open...are girls just that good at being fake??


are you really care?

Or are you fall in love with her?

[IExperiment]

Just been thinking about this some more...don't think it's resolved anything, apart from one wise bro's suggestion to lie about an investment gone bad.

This girl I am with...when I am with her it seems so genuine, yet I find myself keeping one eye open...are girls just that good at being fake??

If your really worried ask her to have kids with you see her response :) most woman once they almost hit 30s they wanted kids naturally specially when you have a family member bring their cute baby with them watch their face and they cant let go holding them :) if they are young watch their reaction say you wanted to have a family and see their reaction :)

[River]

Your friend can shift his assets into a discretionary or family trust. Do it before he gets serious. Then if he marries the girl thenassetsbare untouchable , event he doesn't have a prenup. The assets officially are not his, but owned bythe trust. He is just a director tat controls the assets, he no longer owns them. A good accountant can help set that up. He might have his cake and eat it too. A hot wife and protected assets. If she leaves after the visa then so be it.

[IExperiment]

Wow a lot of cynicism here. We don't look at looks.

I think a lot of you have got it all around the wrong way.

The truth is
Men are visually motivated
Women are emotionally motivated

That's is the difference.
Just because the man is not good looking doesnt mean a women will not pursue him; or have an emotional connection to him.

You men don't know how women think if that is your conclusion. (Ugly man=visa??) please. We have more self respect than that. Our pride is worth more than a visa. I'm astounded to see how many people here think that fobs are that desperate for Australian visas? There is something called self respect; no visa is worth betraying that. Yes Australia is a great place to live; but so are many places in Asia.

Why is it so hard to believe she just likes him because he has qualities that she admires?
A warm caring persona or her answer to her search for a father figure?

Women are not simplistic creatures; although many women are. But please don't put us all in the same box. So many people I know have been accused of seeking relationships just for a visa. Imagine their shock when they find out people are assuming these things

Good on you for standing for your side of the field :) and yes not all of you are like that and it is a pity most will think its a Visa or money.

[splash]

But I believe real love wouldn't be based on looks.
If it based on how he/she looks like. Then by the time when he/she reach 60, what do you think would happen?

But I'm not going to believe bullcrap saying real love doesn't take money/wealth into consideration.

That's just logical and reality on how people make a decision.
He/she would weigh all of factor. And of course money/wealth is one of them. it's just the degree of importance is not the same for every person.
Some young girl wouldn't mind marrying 50years old man if the guy is listed on the forbes list.
Some are not.
Some doesn't mind marrying an average guy.

But of course, nobody would marry someone without money. And is unlikely to get money in the foreseeable future.


The marriage vows say

"For richer or poorer" NOT "For richer or Broke"

Big difference, people have to be realistic about long term love and relationships, yes a lot of woman do believe in real love, but they also need to feel secure about the fact that the man they are going to be with for the rest of their life is secured in all areas of his life, including finances, he is the provider of the bread and butter of the family afterall.

[wilisno]

Wow a lot of cynicism here. We don't look at looks.

I think a lot of you have got it all around the wrong way.

The truth is
Men are visually motivated
Women are emotionally motivated

That's is the difference.
Just because the man is not good looking doesnt mean a women will not pursue him; or have an emotional connection to him.

You men don't know how women think if that is your conclusion. (Ugly man=visa??) please. We have more self respect than that. Our pride is worth more than a visa. I'm astounded to see how many people here think that fobs are that desperate for Australian visas? There is something called self respect; no visa is worth betraying that. Yes Australia is a great place to live; but so are many places in Asia.

Why is it so hard to believe she just likes him because he has qualities that she admires?
A warm caring persona or her answer to her search for a father figure?

Women are not simplistic creatures; although many women are. But please don't put us all in the same box. So many people I know have been accused of seeking relationships just for a visa. Imagine their shock when they find out people are assuming these things
I'm with you on this Esther !

[AHLUNGOR]

Wow a lot of cynicism here. We don't look at looks.

I think a lot of you have got it all around the wrong way.

The truth is
Men are visually motivated
Women are emotionally motivated

That's is the difference.
Just because the man is not good looking doesnt mean a women will not pursue him; or have an emotional connection to him.

You men don't know how women think if that is your conclusion. (Ugly man=visa??) please. We have more self respect than that. Our pride is worth more than a visa. I'm astounded to see how many people here think that fobs are that desperate for Australian visas? There is something called self respect; no visa is worth betraying that. Yes Australia is a great place to live; but so are many places in Asia.

Why is it so hard to believe she just likes him because he has qualities that she admires?
A warm caring persona or her answer to her search for a father figure?

Women are not simplistic creatures; although many women are. But please don't put us all in the same box. So many people I know have been accused of seeking relationships just for a visa. Imagine their shock when they find out people are assuming these things

Hi Esther,


You have written some really nice comments here in near perfect English, if you really are a WL, in Brisbane ?? then I will have to assume your are either born or grew up here. Park, are you Korean ?? So perhaps you are a ABK ?

Not being disrespectful, if you are Korean girl here as a student, there is no way you can write English at the level you have written, "what the fuck are you doing here if your English is that good!" most HSC students probably can't even write those!!

Unless, you are actually a local Aussie dude pretending to be a WL, or some gay or trans dude living out your own little fantasy, So what are you ??

Cheers

:question:

[AHLUNGOR]

Hahahaha! Thank you for your massive compliment! You are so nice :D

And no I am not a man! Haha maybe we should hang out and you will find out ;)
PM me

But you are from Beautiful Brisbane and I am down here in wet and cool Sydney !!

[Cloudybay]

Really true.... when get struck .. love floruish ... no one rule can explain indiviudual's behviour.... love is blindness....Should one have doubt then he/she not deserved to be loved.....


Wow a lot of cynicism here. We don't look at looks.

I think a lot of you have got it all around the wrong way.

The truth is
Men are visually motivated
Women are emotionally motivated

That's is the difference.
Just because the man is not good looking doesnt mean a women will not pursue him; or have an emotional connection to him.

You men don't know how women think if that is your conclusion. (Ugly man=visa??) please. We have more self respect than that. Our pride is worth more than a visa. I'm astounded to see how many people here think that fobs are that desperate for Australian visas? There is something called self respect; no visa is worth betraying that. Yes Australia is a great place to live; but so are many places in Asia.

Why is it so hard to believe she just likes him because he has qualities that she admires?
A warm caring persona or her answer to her search for a father figure?

Women are not simplistic creatures; although many women are. But please don't put us all in the same box. So many people I know have been accused of seeking relationships just for a visa. Imagine their shock when they find out people are assuming these things

[AHLUNGOR]

Ps. I'm not a student! If I was it would be illegal to be working :) and I don't break any laws ever

OK, great, so far you answered a few of my questions:

1. You are a girl, love that, I can keep your image in my head then !!
2. You are not a student, I can accept that. BTW, students can work too, just max 20 hr a week during school terms and no limit during school holidays.

Still like to know if you are Korean.

And if indeed you are a WL, which shop or agency can we find you?? In the great AUS99 forum traditions, most of the posting WL members (Most famously represented by Amy the SuperChick and Sammi the entired Bluemoon girl/future Mamasan) have allowed us horny members the opportunity to meet them in the shop or via outcalls, so that for those of us who really want to meet them - CAN!!

Cheers

:smile:

[wilisno]

Yep; this happens a lot. Some clients I wonder why they pay for sex. Sometimes I think I should be paying them! Haha lungor have you considered becoming a male escort?
Haha, you're sharp ! ;) ;) ;)

[AHLUNGOR]

Yep; this happens a lot. Some clients I wonder why they pay for sex. Sometimes I think I should be paying them! Haha lungor have you considered becoming a male escort?

Hi Esther,


Great job there, going back through the thread and look for some info on me, that's very good attention to details. and since you brought that up, I took it as a compliment. But no, I think I am well past my prime ( I am now usually only a single digit runner) so I don't think I can earn a living out of myself!!

Although the other night I did have a PB time (personal best time in recent years!!) of 16/17 minutes and I pretty sure my partner came a few times before me, but we did have an extended foreplay started from inside the shower !!........haha


Cheers

:smile:

[AHLUNGOR]

Hey Lungor!:)
Yep it is impossible to verify anything on the interwebs but you have my word!!

I would like to stay vague on the last two questions for the reason that I only service regulars I have been seeing for the last while all of whom I met during work at an agency! Also, I am preparing to retire so dont advertise anywhere nor have I ever advertised as there was never the need. The whole thing just happened organically :) I don't have an agent at the moment I am completely self managed because my agency did absolutely nothing just made appointments and took 50% commission! So I think I may have to remain an enigma for the time being :) if that is okay with you!

Xx
my working name is .......

No worry there Esther,


Everyone deserve some privacy, afterall, we only just met today !!!

BTW the way, I am a religious person so .............. I guess I won't be calling you by your working name!!

Hope you don't mind

Cheers

:smile:

[AHLUNGOR]

Yes it was a compliment!

i think you should mail her an invoice for your services!

Hey, don't doubt yourself! There is a market for everything and by this I mean EVERYTHING!

If there is a demand for things such as BBW and fetishists, of course there is definitely already a demand for what you have to offer, jump right into it! :)

Fine then, but where do I jump ??

And how high?

or is that how far ??

haha

Cheers

:cool2::question:

[AHLUNGOR]

Hey, sister, how could I forget to ask you the most important thing??

I need to know how big is your tits, I just need to know whether I should wet dream about you or treat you strictly like a pen pal.......haha

1. Less than 34
2. 34 to 38
3. larger than 38

A. A to B Cups
B. C to D Cups
C. Larger than E/DD Cups.

Age is not important to me. I am pretty sure you won't be my Auntie........lol

Cheers

:cool2:

[IExperiment]

Hey, sister, how could I forget to ask you the most important thing??

I need to know how big is your tits, I just need to know whether I should wet dream about you or treat you strictly like a pen pal.......haha

1. Less than 34
2. 34 to 38
3. larger than 38

A. A to B Cups
B. C to D Cups
C. Larger than E/DD Cups.

Age is not important to me. I am pretty sure you won't be my Auntie........lol

Cheers

:cool2:

lol you never fail :)

[AHLUNGOR]

Hahahaha! I am a large D. Well that depends on how old your aunt happens to be! Haha

Ps. PM me for my real stats! Meaning I'm not a D but... Lets just say I think I will be penpal material to you! :)

Okay I was trying to be vague but oh we'll haha :D


Hi Esther,

Only up until just now you are starting to scare me !!

If you are a large D, you are a large D !! what do you mean by real stats!! so you have some enhancement done ?? "Meaning I'm not a D but............" That's really not the answer I am looking forward to......

I am fine to be just a penpal if that's best for you.

And you have asked me to PM you twice already, I don't really have anything to ask you privately, why don't you PM me for all those things you didn't want to tell me in public, no need to wait for me to make the first move...........haha

Cheers

:smile:

[sukeong]

Let's just say a girl thinks you're the scum of the earth but is dating you because of your money - do you think you could see through that, or do you think you'd fall for it and think she genuinely likes you for you?

I have a white friend who just hooked up with a fob Asian girl. He's quite a slob, fat and not good looking at all. They had only been going out for a month and she already moved in with him. I can sorta see this thing going down the path of her needing him for a visa/citizenship, then she splits and takes half his shit. I'm not gonna warn him, because he's not gonna believe me and I'd lose the friendship, but I am kinda amused at how blind he seems to be.

Even for me, sometimes if a really hot girl smiles at me in the gym or in the street, I always think she has an ulterior motive (I am not attractive, but not ugly either, so figure I'd attract mediocre girls).

Lol recently saw on the streets, a fat old white dude with a beer belly holding hands with a chick young enough to be his grand daughter. She has a South East Asian look. Could be them lol.

[wilisno]

Hi Esther,

Only up until just now you are starting to scare me !!

If you are a large D, you are a large D !! what do you mean by real stats!! so you have some enhancement done ?? "Meaning I'm not a D but............" That's really not the answer I am looking forward to......

I am fine to be just a penpal if that's best for you.

And you have asked me to PM you twice already, I don't really have anything to ask you privately, why don't you PM me for all those things you didn't want to tell me in public, no need to wait for me to make the first move...........haha

Cheers

:smile:
I think it was you who made the first move ! ;) ;) ;)

[AHLUNGOR]

Haha nope that wasn't my meaning. I wanted to be as vague as possible on these forums but its starting to get a little strange ! Haha that's why I keep saying PM me; I'd rather leave being specific in a place that is not public. :)

Fine then, PM me with everything, may be a photo of your boobs as well...........haha

But you know what, if we only talk via PM, how long will it take for me to make you a senior member like Sammi ??

Cheers

:smile:

[AHLUNGOR]

Lol recently saw on the streets, a fat old white dude with a beer belly holding hands with a chick young enough to be his grand daughter. She has a South East Asian look. Could be them lol.

Hi brother,

Fair observations, but I happened to know some fat old white dude with a beer belly married to a beautiful hot slim sexy babe and they are living very happily for a while now. May be its true love, may be it was a marriage of convenient or a marriage built on bartering needs but as long as they are happy, who are we to question why they are together.

When Jennifer Aniston married Brad Pitt, did we not all think that they were a perfect match (age, look )?? On the other hand, Murdoch is probably old enough to be Wendi Deng's grand dad, but their marriage will probably last to till death do they part!!

Just my two cents

cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Haha nope that wasn't my meaning. I wanted to be as vague as possible on these forums but its starting to get a little strange ! Haha that's why I keep saying PM me; I'd rather leave being specific in a place that is not public. :)

Oh, BTW, would you like to update your personal profile as well, after all we have been talking about and you said about your pending retirement from the industry, there is no way you are 18 right ??

Cheers

:cool2:

[project_manager006]

On the other hand, Murdoch is probably old enough to be Wendi Deng's grand dad, but their marriage will probably last to till death do they part!!

That's cause she's waiting for him to die so she can inherit everything.

[Utamaro]

I think bro Ahlungor is in love...:cool2:

[AHLUNGOR]

I think bro Ahlungor is in love...:cool2:

Not with some unknown person on line!!

Esther is fun to talk to, that's all

Cheers

[cisco]

Love is in the Air

[AHLUNGOR]

Love is in the Air

There are nearly 10 ladies across 3 shops currently sharing my love at the moment and Esther ain't one of them...........haha

Cheers

:smile:

[Mashburn]

There are nearly 10 ladies across 3 shops currently sharing my love at the moment and Esther ain't one of them...........haha

Cheers

:smile:

Guess we all know which 3 shops that you're talking about :)

[Travelmate]

If your really worried ask her to have kids with you see her response :) most woman once they almost hit 30s they wanted kids naturally specially when you have a family member bring their cute baby with them watch their face and they cant let go holding them :) if they are young watch their reaction say you wanted to have a family and see their reaction :)

fucking dangerous ..
you kidding me...

all ML wants to have baby with me and take the rest of my life

[cisco]

She will like you but she will never Love you although you Love her

[manman888]

I recogn Esther should be part of this forum to heat up the syd99 momentum! It is great to have Esther to be in the forum adding more value on "your world" to give us some education. There is no obligation at the end and it is all the friendly chat here.

[IExperiment]

fucking dangerous ..
you kidding me...

all ML wants to have baby with me and take the rest of my life

Yes it is dangerous :) at least you know she takes the bullet for you to have your kids and nine months man :) thats love if thing dont work our just have to pay child support :) also after the kid or kids is born tell her to make sure she keep fits and back to shape or else a new one will replace her :)