My First AR ( Bad attitude of 252b Parramatta Rd Stanmore)

[Starlight]

After reading bro Ahlungor's AR on Mimi I was very keen on trying Mimi but never had a chance to pass by that area. As I was coming back this afternoon from City thought why not give 252b a go. So When I was closer, gave them a call. Who picked I don't know, any way I asked ,"Is Mimi working today". The lady said yes, you coming now." I said if Im not coming I wouldn't ring. She said o.k come now. I said alright see you in 10 mins.
I arrived at the back entrance. Rang the door bell. No one came or answered the door. Pressed the bell again, then Coco comes. Straight away she asked how long, one hour or half an hour. I asked the same question ,' is Mimi working". coco says no she is not working. Wtf, one the phone she said she is working. Any way she introduced me two ladies. Ana (HongKong girls in her 30s probably, with enhanced boobs or pushup bra) & Sara (looked like Korean to me bit younger though).
Was very disappointed that whoever answered the phone they lied to me about Mimi. Though I saw the 3rd lady lying on sofa in their back room behind the half opened curtains. If Mimi wasn't working or was booked they could have told me on the phone. This attitude of Mamasans/ management really pisses me of.
Any how back to choosing the girl, I said ok Anna (just bcoz I like big boobs, which were not really big& was mischiefed again). Then Coco says oh no no Anna has booking in half an hour take the younger girl Sarah. Then those all three ladies (Coco, Ana & Sarah) started to discuss something in Chinese, which I don't understand any way but I found it bit rude.
The feeling which they gave that this shop only happily serves to Asian guys, hopefully I'm wrong in saying that but one thing is for sure that their attitude & customer service etiquette are very bad. Which would turn their potential clients away to other shops.
Back to choosing the Mls. As I said after I chose Ana they all started chit chatting in Chinese. I was sitting alone in the room for nearly 5 mins then coco send Ana in.
She comes in & says money, money. I asked how much. She said one $50 & one $10. I got it, she can't speak English at all just few words here & there. She took the money , went out. I undressed & laid on the bed. By that time I lost all my mojo, excitement. oh well, bad experience doesn't warn you before happening, sometimes, unfortunately.
Her massage skills just good, say 5/10. 40 min into the session now she wanted to say me turn around, but didn't know how to interpret that in English. So she says something in Chinese. I said sorry, then she pulls my left shoulder to turn me around. Here we go, I understood what she meant, now I'm lying on my back. Then She gave me little bit leg massage.Touching my inner thighs to mention hand job but she didn't know how to say that you wanna hand job or bbj.
Then she makes a hand action. i said no thanks, i just want massage.I think she didn't understand that either. then she starts light touching on my cock & making fake horny noises & horny face. Which puts me off more. Then she says money, money. What the hell, I said I gave to Coco$60 already. She points her finger to my dick & says money money. Now I understand what she was trying to say. That she wants money for handjob or if i want hand job I have to pay extra. Just to check, I asked how much?. She says $50. No thanks just for dressed hand job $50.
I was silly enough that I stayed even after Coco said Mimi not working but not that silly any more.
But whats wrong with this Ml that she kept pushing& making fake sighs & sex noises out of nothing My cock wasn't getting hard any way bcoz I have plenty of self control. even if I didn't have self control, it wouldn't get hard on fake acts. (Most bros would get agree on this).
10 mins to go so I tell her my neck is sour can you massage it more plz, she didn't get it. So I have to move my hand from my neck down to shoulders to tell her that this part is sour. She gives slight massage there. In between the massage she goes out three time without saying any thing talk to Coco or some other lady ^ comes back in. Then one lady yells from out side probably telling her that time is over. Ana gives two pats on my back & says OK. No money , no....(makes hand action for handjob again). I say no thanks. She get so angry that she walk out of the door leaving me alone in the room naked. I quickly dressed & found my way to the hallway & out of the door.

I will go back, hell not. If the management of 252b listening, with this behavior they would loose their potential clients & new clients who could be their potential regular clients (like me).

[Mr Crash and Burn]

Interesting report. As an aussie I do think it's rude when they woggle off in a language not that common to me. I always get suspicious that they are trying to pull one over me.

[Licker]

Interesting report. As an aussie I do think it's rude when they woggle off in a language not that common to me. I always get suspicious that they are trying to pull one over me.

I know what you mean Mr C&B, but consider this...

There are plenty of aussies who think that you woggle off in a language not that common to them. :question:

They always get suspicious that you are trying to push one into them. lol :fire:

[chandra_man1]

another classic example of punting. you win some and you lose some.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi brother Starlight

Very sorry to hear that you had an unhappy session with Anna, I had a session with Anna before, it wasn't the best, but I was ok with her, she is no Coco or Mimi though. And I have no idea her English is so limited - that was just too bad, but it seems to me you are more into having a good rapport with the ML rather than just a physical horny release.

Don't let this a one poor punt stop you going back, after all , you were there to see Mimi. so don't give up until you give Mimi or Coco a try! They are the creme de la creme.

Or perhaps you will be happier with a younger girl with better English! Miranda and Mena or Lisa will be more suitable then.

If you are still not happy, go see Mia at Silver Fox or Joey at Snow Lotus!!

And if even Mia or Joey would both fail, then I don't have anybody else to offer you, you will be too hard to please......

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi brother Starlight

Just one more point to add, when I did my earlier reply, it was on my iphone and I didn't see your Avatar, now I have seen it, I think we have a lot in common:

So, you can definitely see all these busty girls, all natural, guaranteed:

Coco, Mimi from Stanmore

Shelley and Nancy from Snow Lotus

Lisa and Sara from Silver Fox

Thou shalt not wait any longer. Your cock deserves a bigger and better home...........LOL

Cheers

:love:

May be one more to be added on the list, wait until I check out the new girl Mia (SL) on Saturday !!

[bigfatkilo]

Win some loose some. Sorry to hear of your experience. I've learnt if it feels bad, if early signs are bad, be prepared to pack up and leave without hesitation. Shops commonly say yes that a certai girl is working, so to counter this I normally ask first, who is working. Many reply who do you want and don't always willingly give names, but at least they can't say yes to a name you give.

Advice to management who read these posts- just be honest, gets more loyalty. Your lies might get a punter in that once, but won't get him in again.

Sorry to hear again, I can certainly relate to it. Better luck next time.

[AHLUNGOR]

Win some loose some. Sorry to hear of your experience. I've learnt if it feels bad, if early signs are bad, be prepared to pack up and leave without hesitation. Shops commonly say yes that a certai girl is working, so to counter this I normally ask first, who is working. Many reply who do you want and don't always willingly give names, but at least they can't say yes to a name you give.

Advice to management who read these posts- just be honest, gets more loyalty. Your lies might get a punter in that once, but won't get him in again.

Sorry to hear again, I can certainly relate to it. Better luck next time.

Hi Mr Big,

I can assure you Coco will never lie about which girl is working in order to get customers in. Her reputation is too valuable to get ruined for a cut of what $20? $30?

Besides, this is one of only three RnT shops in the whole forum that posts and update their daily rosters regularly. If the brother who actually look at the roster, he will know exactly who's on!! And if he wants to meet Mimi, then Wed, Fri and Sun it will be!

May be one of the other girl answered the phone and stuffed it up due to the poor English, for that misunderstanding, the shop will apologise.

You don't sound like you have been to the shop yet and perhaps you should before generalizing the management of this shop because she does have a lot of loyal followers and its not because of me helping her, it's all Coco's hard works and her girls.

Cheers

[Starlight]

Hi brother Starlight

Very sorry to hear that you had an unhappy session with Anna, I had a session with Anna before, it wasn't the best, but I was ok with her, she is no Coco or Mimi though. And I have no idea her English is so limited - that was just too bad, but it seems to me you are more into having a good rapport with the ML rather than just a physical horny release.

Don't let this a one poor punt stop you going back, after all , you were there to see Mimi. so don't give up until you give Mimi or Coco a try! They are the creme de la creme.

Or perhaps you will be happier with a younger girl with better English! Miranda and Mena or Lisa will be more suitable then.

If you are still not happy, go see Mia at Silver Fox or Joey at Snow Lotus!!

And if even Mia or Joey would both fail, then I don't have anybody else to offer you, you will be too hard to please......

Cheers

Bro Ahlungor,
First thing to clarify I'm not Asian & not Caucasian either. Any way the point is I cant communicate in Chinese/ Mandarin etc. Sometimes I can handle when they communicate in their language knowing that I wouldn't get it bit rude but oh well, my bad luck I would say. the thing which pisses me off more that when a ML is with you in the room then she talks/ yells out to other lady outside the room & saying some thing or replying her something that really breaks my mood.

Now to bro Ahlungor thanks for your humble reply. I didn't expect you to say sorry on behalf of the shop. I understand what you tried to explain yeah I didn't check their roster & not Coco may be somebody else stuffed it up. I agree with you that probably I would be happy with a younger girl (Miranda, Mena or Lisa as you said).

[Starlight]

Hi brother Starlight

Just one more point to add, when I did my earlier reply, it was on my iphone and I didn't see your Avatar, now I have seen it, I think we have a lot in common:

So, you can definitely see all these busty girls, all natural, guaranteed:

Coco, Mimi from Stanmore

Shelley and Nancy from Snow Lotus

Lisa and Sara from Silver Fox

Thou shalt not wait any longer. Your cock deserves a bigger and better home...........LOL

Cheers

:love:

May be one more to be added on the list, wait until I check out the new girl Mia (SL) on Saturday !!

You are right Bro Ahlungor, I'm tits man too & may be we have few things in common too. I keep these girls in mind and for sure would do my best to see them all & report. As you said not to stop my self for going to 252b, ok so Mimi is back on my list with all these girls.
Thanks for the advice.

[Irene638]

Sorry to hear your bad session.

I am a regular of this shop and Burwood shop as well. In my experience with these shop, they are not very good in term of communication (I don't speak chinese) and they are very confusing on the phone, sometimes I have to repeat about 5 times the name of the ladies I want to book and the time I want to book. But I don't think they are lies on purpose to get you there. So be patience with them when you ring.

To make sure you have a good session, I would suggest Cici, Mimi, Mena and Coco. They will surely make you come back for more.

Happy punting.

[AHLUNGOR]

Bro Ahlungor,
First thing to clarify I'm not Asian & not Caucasian either. Any way the point is I cant communicate in Chinese/ Mandarin etc. Sometimes I can handle when they communicate in their language knowing that I wouldn't get it bit rude but oh well, my bad luck I would say. the thing which pisses me off more that when a ML is with you in the room then she talks/ yells out to other lady outside the room & saying some thing or replying her something that really breaks my mood.

Now to bro Ahlungor thanks for your humble reply. I didn't expect you to say sorry on behalf of the shop. I understand what you tried to explain yeah I didn't check their roster & not Coco may be somebody else stuffed it up. I agree with you that probably I would be happy with a younger girl (Miranda, Mena or Lisa as you said).

Fair point brother Starlight,

I will reflect this back to Coco and tell her and her girls to be more considerate and discrete when speaking Chinese in front of non Asians customers. It's just table manners I guess. And in fact you are not alone in getting pissed off, in my work environment we have a few Chinese staff and of course we talk Mandarins normally but a few of them are from Shanghai and sometimes during lunch they will all be talking to each in Shanghainese (a totally different dialect from Mandarins!) and I would be sitting there like, what the fuck are you talking about, you talking about me or something, so I totally understand how you must felt, and especially when you are laying on the table naked ready to be pampered, a very bad mood killer, so yeah, cross out Anna from your list, and hopefully some of the other gem girls can make up for it big time...............haha

Cheers

:smile:

[kickass]

Here is a message for shop owners, managers, and reception who knowingly tell a punter over the phone that a girl is working when the truth is she isn't even rostered on that day:

Fuck Off !!!

I would not waste my time with that shop again.

[altgourami]

252B is a rather hard core ML shop catering for those who know what they're buying and what to expect. Don't take it too personally. If you were Chinese you'd get the same treatment but know exactly what's going on. You want big-4-bank style customer service? In this industry? Yeah, right...

[altgourami]

Also, from the first post I don't think they actually said Mimi was working. Sounds like they are sick and tired of punters calling up and asking lots of questions and then not turning up - so I guess Coco's attitude was 'turn up and we can talk'.

[wilisno]

Also, from the first post I don't think they actually said Mimi was working. Sounds like they are sick and tired of punters calling up and asking lots of questions and then not turning up - so I guess Coco's attitude was 'turn up and we can talk'.

That's true, some punters ask so many questions about everything like boob size, age, face, weight, tightness ... maybe they treat it as free phone sex ! :miao:

[8inches]

Most mamasans know once a punter is thru the door he will be most likely spineless to leave even though he was lied to over the phone.
Shame on u for staying
You should man up and walk out


Here is a message for shop owners, managers, and reception who knowingly tell a punter over the phone that a girl is working when the truth is she isn't even rostered on that day:

Fuck Off !!!

I would not waste my time with that shop again.

[tpol]

Look it is culture too.

In beijing they spit in front of you as you walk. To me it is rude but it is normal for them. Every culture brings their mannerisms to the country they migrate to

I am azn, but cant speak mando and even if the masseuse is a gr8 masseuse but only speaks mandarin, i would always choose a slightly worse one who can speak english or canto.

I think talking and building a good relationship is part and parcel of having a gr8 experience.

So let them know u want a young, busty, good massage, english spesking girl and coco will try to accomodate.

Furthermore, they are really hanging out for the hj or nude hj tips. If u dont intend a hj then goto a legit one. I frequent legit ones just to iron out bad kinks or short of cash becoz i punted too many times in the week especially when i try the new young girls which i know cant massage.

So i goto a legit one to get the real massage and claim it off the health fund


Lastly lunghor maybe ask coco to number the girls and publish them here. In china, it is always i want to book number 78 and they never get it wrong.

I have met some of the new girls who might have worked at the shop for 2 to 3 weeks and be coz they dont work each day they have no idea who mimi or apple is.

If coco is busy then the unlucky girl who picks up the phone would be in a similar situation as to the prank call nurse

Oh and also if she says money money money, dont tske that wrong as she cant cummunicate what she wants to say to u in english

[wilisno]

I am azn, but cant speak mando and even if the masseuse is a gr8 masseuse but only speaks mandarin, i would always choose a slightly worse one who can speak english or canto.



Haha, I'm surprised that you can't speak Mandarin if you speak Cantonese !!! :miao:

Most Hongkies can speak their version of HKMando ! :miao:

[AHLUNGOR]

Brother tpol,

Lisa is your girl man, speaks Cantonese, and tick most of the boxes, but those strong hands you really must try !!

Cheers

:smile:

[tpol]

Ahlungor

I tried lisa the first day she worked there and she was the only masseuse in syd that have made me scream in part 1

She works the ligaments or in canto gunn, thats what really is sore.

Oh and her part 2 is gr8 too

[tpol]

Willis sir i grew up in sydney and studied kindy here

[tpol]

Tried sammii on her first day there too

[wilisno]

Willis sir i grew up in sydney and studied kindy here

No worries, tpol sir ! Just find it amusing, because most Hongkies just speak their Mandarin in Cantonese with an altered accent that's all they need ! :miao:

No offence, really !

[AHLUNGOR]

Ahlungor

I tried lisa the first day she worked there and she was the only masseuse in syd that have made me scream in part 1

She works the ligaments or in canto gunn, thats what really is sore.

Oh and her part 2 is gr8 too

Wow, you are on the ball man, already tried Lisa and Sammi,

I am feeling jealous of you now !!

You must be on Coco's good book, and a few pages ahead of me.................haha

Well done!

Cheers

:smile:

[tpol]

Willis, no offense taken. I am a banana more than a hongkie.

[wilisno]

Willis, no offense taken. I am a banana more than a hongkie.

Hahaha, good on you !

[Starlight]

I think I should learn Chinese so I can communicate little bit with Chinese people (including Mls & Wls, lol) or at least understand what they are saying in front of me (if they think I don't understand what they talking about). Sounds bit cunning but at least I would have some multilingual skills:thirst:

[wilisno]

I think I should learn Chinese so I can communicate little bit with Chinese people (including Mls & Wls, lol) or at least understand what they are saying in front of me (if they think I don't understand what they talking about). Sounds bit cunning but as least I would have some multilingual skills:thirst:

Get the iPhone app : itranslate, it's a voice translator, it's a lot of fun using it ! :miao:

[Starlight]

Thanks. Good idea of the app. I prefer android over iphone thats why have android phone. Hopefully there would be same or similar app in the android market.

[wilisno]

Thanks. Good idea of the app. I prefer android over iphone thats why have android phone. Hopefully there would be same or similar app in the android market.

Sooner or later if not already available !

[kickass]

Most mamasans know once a punter is thru the door he will be most likely spineless to leave even though he was lied to over the phone.
Shame on u for staying
You should man up and walk out

I've not been there. My post was a response to the original review. Yes, I would man up and walk out, as I have done at several places in the past.

[AHLUNGOR]

Haha, I don't think it's a matter of whether you can man up and walk away. But rather are you man enough to stay and test them !!

Especially with Coco and Mimi around, I will never walk away from their bossoms, so natural, so busty, so firm and perky and so full of love.............hehe

:love::love:

[8inches]

In this case he was "lied" to on the phone and had already lost the mood.
If there had been any credible reviews on other girls maybe stay and punt.
Once the mood is gone and who u wanna see isn't there be man and walk.
This willl be a lesson to all the liars that answer the phone that this trick wont work and honesty is the best policy when u pick up the phone!


Haha, I don't think it's a matter of whether you can man up and walk away. But rather are you man enough to stay and test them !!

Especially with Coco and Mimi around, I will never walk away from their bossoms, so natural, so busty, so firm and perky and so full of love.............hehe

:love::love:

[AHLUNGOR]

In this case he was "lied" to on the phone and had already lost the mood.
If there had been any credible reviews on other girls maybe stay and punt.
Once the mood is gone and who u wanna see isn't there be man and walk.
This willl be a lesson to all the liars that answer the phone that this trick wont work and honesty is the best policy when u pick up the phone!

You keep drilling on the fact that brother Starlight was "lied" to and lured into coming to the shop, this is what he said:


So When I was closer, gave them a call. Who picked I don't know, any way I asked ,"Is Mimi working today". The lady said yes, you coming now." I said if Im not coming I wouldn't ring. She said o.k come now. I said alright see you in 10 mins.
I arrived at the back entrance. Rang the door bell. No one came or answered the door. Pressed the bell again, then Coco comes. Straight away she asked how long, one hour or half an hour. I asked the same question ,' is Mimi working". coco says no she is not working.

I still don't believe whoever answered the phone actually understand the question or intentionally "lied" about Mimi working on the day. I am pretty sure she was not Coco and one of the girl whoes English is so bad that she really shouldn't pick up the phone - end of story, so it was a mistake and all she can managed to say was "Yes, you coming now" if you insisted that was a lie, so she told a lie. And I have apologied for that already.

As soon as the brother arrived, he saw Coco and Coco immediately told him that Mimi was not working, so Coco wasn't lying at all. Anything happened from that point onwards was just the same as you walked into any MS, you were showed the girls available and you decide if you like to stay. The brother decided to stay, now whether the mood was killed (as he was obviously looking forward to meet Mimi !!) or he was disappointed with the selections or he was very upset that he was "tricked" into coming to the shop, well, only he knew how he felt and I think brother Starlight is now OK with the shop and he will be coming back to try Mimi or some of my other recommendations, so it's already a win win situation for the brother and Coco. So why are you still so uptight about ??

Cheers

ps. may be you really should cum by the shop and let some of Coco girls to ease off and release your stress and pressure valve...............haha

[8inches]

I think u need to relax and re read the facts before assuming

[Cloudybay]

"if you insisted that was a lie, so she told a lie. And I have apologied for that already."

Alungor apology = Coco's / Shop Owner"...?

[AHLUNGOR]

"if you insisted that was a lie, so she told a lie. And I have apologied for that already."

Alungor apology = Coco's / Shop Owner"...?

Yes, I have spoken with Coco in the first instance and she had asked me to apologise for her !!

[Cloudybay]

Then this should be called out earlier .. as it would be received more positively.

Honstely, have issue with the true identity :( , not sure if reviews made are of which perspective - supporter? Shop Representative, or Shop owner. As Trust level vary pending actual position of reviewer... Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Then this should be called out earlier .. as it would be received more positively..

Hi Brother Cloudybay,

This is what brother Starlight posted yesterday after my earlier replies and as far as we are concerned, I think we are in good terms, and he is good for everything and it's just a matter of time before he will return to the shop and try out either Mimi or one of the other younger girls.


Now to bro Ahlungor thanks for your humble reply. I didn't expect you to say sorry on behalf of the shop. I understand what you tried to explain yeah I didn't check their roster & not Coco may be somebody else stuffed it up. I agree with you that probably I would be happy with a younger girl (Miranda, Mena or Lisa as you said).

But I can't help it when some other people who had not been a customer of the shop but have some hidden and personal agenda and just keep posting negative comments when the originally affected brother is already back in friendly terms.!!

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Honstely, have issue with the true identity :( , not sure if reviews made are of which perspective - supporter? Shop Representative, or Shop owner. As Trust level vary pending actual position of reviewer... Cheers

Haha, this is the beauty of talking on line, while I was replying to your first draft, you have made more additional comments,

I'm not sure if you are talking about me or brother Starlight, well, he was a paying customer of course. And for yours truely here, I am also a paying customer first and foremost and then I am also a friend and fan of Coco, so I am a devoted supporter and helper of the shop.

Now since Coco doesn't read much or not posting anything at all in the forum, I took the liberty of appointing myself as her representative and as a spoken person for the shop on line. And hopefully people will still find my comments being fair and my recommendations trustworthy. Mind you, I am only human, so if I appears to be biased from time to time, just take it with some salt and pepper and chilli and garlic and you won't be too far off track.

Is that identity clear enough??

[Starlight]

Common bros the intention of my AR wasn't to cause a rift or arguments between the forum members. We are like a community. Every body is right in saying either thing, whether I was lied to or not, should I go back or not.

Lets give 252b the benefit of doubt that whether Coco answered the phone or some body else, whether Mimi was working or not.

There is a word of caution to all shop management here that this phone trick (lying on the phone that one Ml/ WL is working but actually not) wouldn't work in their favour. After all we punters are their customers, Their business relies on us.

The main purpose of starting this thread which includes After Report on a massage shop to give a polite warning to all shops, if you are engaging this sort of customer service you are going down the hill.
After all "CONSUMER IS THE BOSS"

[8inches]

Well said Starlight
As I've been trying to agree and make it clear to some others that honesty is the best and only way to go when answering the phone!
Mls/wls that lie on the phone sooner or later start telling the truth when punters walk when being misinformed snd then disappointed

[Cloudybay]

And hopefully people will still find my comments being fair and my recommendations trustworthy. Mind you, I am only human, so if I appears to be biased from time to time, just take it with some salt and pepper and chilli and garlic and you won't be too far off track.


Well said.. after a validation visit, M do apply Bias factor vs review report posted by the great ,,, especially whenever big Boob size being mentioned... as this in not my number one and only quality assement criteria.

[Boney]

In answer to a previous post about translator Aps for Android devices try Google Translate to translate from English to 20 or so languages both in text and with sound files. Also you can use the camera to get a translation of Chinese characters and it has a conversation mode. Best of all it is free.

The ML's and WL's generally appreciate you making an effort, brownie points always help for a good session ;)