Switcheroo Complaint Mamasan complaint, however ML Mico was ok.

[hardcandy]

Service Provider's Name: Mico

Session Month & Year: October 2013

Weekend Session Time: Sunday night time 11:30pm

Estimated Age: 26 - 30

Hair Colour: Dark Hair Length: Medium

Eyes Colour: Brown Skin Colour: Light tan

Height: About 170 cm Body Shape: Slim

Kissing Available: No, she was sick

BBBJ: Yes

DATY / Oral On Her: Didn't try, she was already coughing

Overall Looks: 6/10 looks old for an Asian, but slim body.

Overall Personality: Friendly.

Overall Performance: good.

The good:
She is slim, medium build and has a very nice body, boobs are small but very nice shape with perky nipples.
I had an okay time with Mico, nice girl but not a whole lot of English. I had to use my struggling Mando. :sweat:
She gave me a good bbbj which was probably the highlight. Then went to mish, doggy, then mish again.

Overall a nice girl good service and friendly with limited English.

The bad,
So I called up at around 11pm saying that I want to see a small girl like Chobe, however she isn't in tonight and the mamasan suggested Cici. It turns out Cici doesn't even exists in the website, but maybe I misheard it as Bibi. Anyway I called twice to confirm my booking. Once I arrived there,
I said I was the one that booked over the phone and was after Cici.
She said no Cici is booked for 2 hours already till 1am.We only have Ada, which actually wasn't too bad.

Anyway I gave the money to Ada and then she left the room. Once I showered, there was a knock on the door and it turn out to be another girl and said her name was Mico. I was like WTF and said to her I think you're in the wrong room, I am after Ada. She said Ada is busy now. She then said along the lines of "try me, I'm good" and then rubbed her tits in front of me. I cave and said WTF, whateva and just went with the flow. It was my first punt here and I was in a forgiving mood.

Once I came out, I said to her that I didn't like the fact that Mico couldn't speak much English and then she had the nerve to say if you want English, go to a legal place. Here is cheap and don't speak English.

I was pissed off and did a search on the forum for complaints about 533. Sure enough I did find it here.
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?36971-533-never-again

So punters beware, you might get the switcheroo from the mamasan. Not sure if we can guard against than going somewhere else.

Any other suggestions on how to get the girl you requested for? Was it because of the time of the night? I mean it was still busy, I can hear the walls.
Was it because I didn't speak Mandarin? I was it because I looked like a kid?

The joint is smelly, smell of smoke along the corridor however the room was acceptable, it doesn't have a smokey smell. The place is near the Subway.

It was a bittersweet experience.

[wilisno]

Haha ! Unbelievable business practice ! :miao:

[HookedonHookerz]

533 strikes again. I need to visit and pull a switcharoo with payment. Pay with money then switch it for poo. Lol

[lamb]

Plenty of thread bumping by 533 but no response to this? A shame really.

[Oneonone]

I saw Mico early in the day she is a nice girl, a bit of a shame she is working if she is sick? Not good!

I notice Coby and Cici on the roster for Sunday but neither of them were in, I know Coby but have never met CICI so don't know what happened with her?

I see CICI is on the roster for Wednesday? I might see if I can meet her, when I am visiting Lily, and find out if she is for real!

[CunningLinguist]

The way to guard against being switched is to walk, and don't come back ...

[wthing]

533 ALARM !!! Urgently call swiss guards - BS and explanation, but no real improvement.
Been there and got it already !

[NGS]

Service Provider's Name: Mico

Session Month & Year: October 2013

So punters beware, you might get the switcheroo from the mamasan. Not sure if we can guard against than going somewhere else.

Any other suggestions on how to get the girl you requested for?

Next time I'll think twice before visiting this place - girls are the same, and they just work in different places as well (Lilly @ 533 = Jennifer @ 647, for example, Helen is Helen at theboth places).

They've tried to do the same with me last week: bad luck for them, I've told that I only going to give the money to the girl which I've booked.
After waiting about 20 minutes I've headed across the road - to the pub, came back half an hour later - "sorry we had a double booking" - called and headed to 647 Waterloo ("Plan B" - I know who I was visiting, called them beforehand, so money went to 647 instead of 533).

Never had any problems like this in other brothels.


PS AUD 10 is not a big deal, but 533 is closer to Macquarie Park , so next time guys - just go to the city, save yourself from mamasan's tricks.

[Sextus]

(Lilly @ 533 = Jennifer @ 647,

I just checked the photos of Jennifer, I don't think that is Lily at all.

[xzy61187]

I always thought the mamasan was a bit dodgy lol. You should of walked out bro

[NGS]

I just checked the photos of Jennifer, I don't think that is Lily at all.

Photos at http://aaescort.com.au/ are old. Last week Jennifer @ 647 = Lilly @ 533, the same girl, just different days.

[Sextus]

Well, if it is Lily at 647 that is great news - much easier for me than Artarmon!

[Mr. Who]

Once I came out, I said to her that I didn't like the fact that Mico couldn't speak much English and then she had the nerve to say if you want English, go to a legal place. Here is cheap and don't speak English.

I was pissed off and did a search on the forum for complaints about 533. Sure enough I did find it here.
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?36971-533-never-again

So punters beware, you might get the switcheroo from the mamasan. Not sure if we can guard against than going somewhere else.


Just want to add one thing about that link: You need to scroll down to read every single post to get a real picture of how unbelievable this place is.

You are lucky that she didn't randomly grab a girl and tell you that this is the girl you booked.

[hardcandy]

Thanks guys! appreciate all your feedbacks and wish that I would also get a feedback from the management as well.
Thank you for the suggestions and alternatives to other places which has better customer service.

Cheers.

[Punter Poontang]

wish that I would also get a feedback from the management as well.

Just FYI, they're well aware of these complaints as the issue has been raised before and they have commented on it in the past.

I'm just guessing for every punter that swears never to return because of stuff like this, there must be 2 that don't give a fuck and still put up with it for the girls. They're obviously still a very busy shop so are doing something right, good luck to them.

[action_hunter]

I saw Mico early in the day she is a nice girl, a bit of a shame she is working if she is sick? Not good!

I notice Coby and Cici on the roster for Sunday but neither of them were in, I know Coby but have never met CICI so don't know what happened with her?

I see CICI is on the roster for Wednesday? I might see if I can meet her, when I am visiting Lily, and find out if she is for real!

Can confirm CICI is real, saw her last Sunday, ( no I wasn't the punter with her at 11pm) was earlier in the day.
She replaced cobe, as irresponsible punter didn't cut his finger nails then decided to finger her. Cut your finger nails next time! She went home early obviously. As my appointment was with COBE. (This one not the mamason fault, just a d***head punter caused this)!

Didn't really 'click' with CICI.
Cici Approx size 5-6, enhanced C cup, approx 22-23 y/old. Cute face.

[CunningLinguist]

Just FYI, they're well aware of these complaints as the issue has been raised before and they have commented on it in the past.

I'm just guessing for every punter that swears never to return because of stuff like this, there must be 2 that don't give a fuck and still put up with it for the girls. They're obviously still a very busy shop so are doing something right, good luck to them.

I don't remember seeing the shop comment in any complaint threads, maybe before my time ?
For the area that they are in they probably have alot of well off pensioner regulars that don't read the forum and to them the milfs would be young :)

[Punter Poontang]

I don't remember seeing the shop comment in any complaint threads, maybe before my time ?


Yeah, my bad, the shop didn't comment directly. There was a complaint thread started by 'tiny dancer' back in July last year. It's now closed, but the final post was this one posted by Aus99 Moderator:

"Dear members,

533 management wishes to express that they have taken notice of the complaints, and promised to improve their efficiency, therefore request this thread to be closed.

Cheers"

[CunningLinguist]

Yeah, my bad, the shop didn't comment directly. There was a complaint thread started by 'tiny dancer' back in July last year. It's now closed, but the final post was this one posted by Aus99 Moderator:

"Dear members,

533 management wishes to express that they have taken notice of the complaints, and promised to improve their efficiency, therefore request this thread to be closed.

Cheers"

Thanks!
So everything is ok now as they have taken notice and promised to improve ...
Perhaps this song sums it up ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufqlbaurJPw)

Just found the thread (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?1369-Bad-Attitude-From-Mamasan-533-Willoughby-Road), thanks.
Dejavu ...

[Oneonone]

I dont' disagree with the complaints about the shop not doing the right thing but we punters contribute to the problem.

Yesterday for instance one of the popular girls at my regular shop, I have only ever said hello to her never had so much as a chat with her or seen her in the room that's not the point she had two bookings yesterday morning got in at 10 waited the first booking didn't show. The shop had several customers phone wanting to book her but they were told she was not available till 2:30 because she had bookings.

I came out of my booking at 12 and the girl had still not done a job at 5 past 12 she was told she could not take a one hour job because she had a booking at 12:30.

At 5 past one the girl did her 1st job a 30 minute booking, the customer was told she could only do 30 minutes cause she had a 1:30 booking. I left then so don't know what happened after that.

But how unfair is that you customers ring up and book and then just don't show. What's wrong with you why can't you at least phone and say your late or cant make it.

These punters cost the girl a lot of money and wasted her hours yesterday morning, and yes the shop lost money as well.

I bet these same guys are the first to post a complaint on here if their booking is 5 minutes late?

These guys so called punters are the ones stuffing it up for everyone.!

What's up guys can't you use the phone where are your manners!

[Punter Poontang]

These guys so called punters are the ones stuffing it up for everyone.!

What's up guys can't you use the phone where are your manners!

Yeah, look, that sucks, but it's not exactly hard for a shop to manage in this day & age. Just buy a phone with caller ID, record the number as a contact for the booking and have a one-chance policy ..... if you don't turn up and don't call to cancel, your number gets blocked from making another booking in advance. Easy.

Weeds out the time-wasters and unreliable punters, or worse, shitty competitors making false bookings. And the cost of the new phone is probably covered by just ONE hour booking that avoids an otherwise no-show.

Who knows?? Reliable punters might even end up having future bookings honoured, and the girls will end up actually busy instead of wasting hours in the shop not earning (though I believe that's not a concern at 533, they're busy enough anyways). Win win, just a tiny effort needed from mamasan / reception.

[CunningLinguist]

I dont' disagree with the complaints about the shop not doing the right thing but we punters contribute to the problem.

Yesterday for instance one of the popular girls at my regular shop, I have only ever said hello to her never had so much as a chat with her or seen her in the room that's not the point she had two bookings yesterday morning got in at 10 waited the first booking didn't show. The shop had several customers phone wanting to book her but they were told she was not available till 2:30 because she had bookings.

I came out of my booking at 12 and the girl had still not done a job at 5 past 12 she was told she could not take a one hour job because she had a booking at 12:30.

At 5 past one the girl did her 1st job a 30 minute booking, the customer was told she could only do 30 minutes cause she had a 1:30 booking. I left then so don't know what happened after that.

But how unfair is that you customers ring up and book and then just don't show. What's wrong with you why can't you at least phone and say your late or cant make it.

These punters cost the girl a lot of money and wasted her hours yesterday morning, and yes the shop lost money as well.

I bet these same guys are the first to post a complaint on here if their booking is 5 minutes late?

These guys so called punters are the ones stuffing it up for everyone.!

What's up guys can't you use the phone where are your manners!

I agree that is poor form.
I for one have never missed a booking. Maybe once every 6 months I will be running late but I always ring up and let them know beforehand.
Maybe the shop can remember the numbers of these no-shows and not allow them to book for a while.

[Drax]

I just checked the photos of Jennifer, I don't think that is Lily at all.

Lilly is definitely Jennifer at 647, I have seen her at both shops.

[Drax]

I dont' disagree with the complaints about the shop not doing the right thing but we punters contribute to the problem.

Yesterday for instance one of the popular girls at my regular shop, I have only ever said hello to her never had so much as a chat with her or seen her in the room that's not the point she had two bookings yesterday morning got in at 10 waited the first booking didn't show. The shop had several customers phone wanting to book her but they were told she was not available till 2:30 because she had bookings.

I came out of my booking at 12 and the girl had still not done a job at 5 past 12 she was told she could not take a one hour job because she had a booking at 12:30.

At 5 past one the girl did her 1st job a 30 minute booking, the customer was told she could only do 30 minutes cause she had a 1:30 booking. I left then so don't know what happened after that.

But how unfair is that you customers ring up and book and then just don't show. What's wrong with you why can't you at least phone and say your late or cant make it.

These punters cost the girl a lot of money and wasted her hours yesterday morning, and yes the shop lost money as well.

I bet these same guys are the first to post a complaint on here if their booking is 5 minutes late?

These guys so called punters are the ones stuffing it up for everyone.!

What's up guys can't you use the phone where are your manners!

I absolutely agree with you. In 15 years of punting I have only had to cancel a booking once when I caught in a massive grid lock traffic jam. I rang the shop straight away 30 minutes before the booking was due. These days I always allow an extra 30 minutes traveling time and I have the shop phone number stored on mobile just in case.

[wannabe]

Bro Oneonone sounds like the Ahlungor of Stanmore here for 533... the problem on this thread is not the booking being late, it's switcheroo, customers being fooled! If a booking is running too late, the shop should inform the customer to save the journey, but not to switch girls without even telling the truth!

[Oneonone]

Bro Oneonone sounds like the Ahlungor of Stanmore here for 533... the problem on this thread is not the booking being late, it's switcheroo, customers being fooled! If a booking is running too late, the shop should inform the customer to save the journey, but not to switch girls without even telling the truth!

My only point is that a shop gets it wrong and we all wine like crazy but when the punter gets it wrong that's Ok.

A fair go for and by both sides is all I am suggesting and we punters can help make it better for all.

[wannabe]

My only point is that a shop gets it wrong and we all wine like crazy but when the punter gets it wrong that's Ok.

A fair go for and by both sides is all I am suggesting and we punters can help make it better for all.
A punter missing appointment is quite common, a shop blatantly switching girls to fool customers is pretty rare I must say!

[hardcandy]

A punter missing appointment is quite common, a shop blatantly switching girls to fool customers is pretty rare I must say!

I actually called twice. The second time to inform the mamasan that I am running late and asked her whether it is still okay or not to come as I am 30 mins. She said it was still fine and so I went.

I got switched TWICE. First was over the phone, the mamasan said it was CiCi, when I got there CiCi is said to be booked till 1am (closing time). She showed me Ada and said that if you do want to go ahead you only can have the 30 mins. Over the phone I said I wanted 45 mins for CiCi. I gave the money to Ada and she went outside the room and left me to shower by myself. When the girl knocked it was another girl and I even said to her, I think you are in the wrong room, I'm with Ada. She said Ada is now with another client.
I was already in my towel by this point.

[Sextus]

Lilly is definitely Jennifer at 647, I have seen her at both shops.

Well, I still don't think the photos look alike. Everyone keeps referring to "Lilly" Whereas i mean "Lily" with two L's not three, ie, my gangbang girl. Is she at 647 as Jennifer?

Anyway, I heard Lily had recently gone on holidays, but came in for one day to 533 a week later because she was hanging out for sex! Holidays weren't agreeing with her! She practically devoured the poor guy who did the AR! So, yes, is she Jennifer at 647 - please?

[CunningLinguist]

I actually called twice. The second time to inform the mamasan that I am running late and asked her whether it is still okay or not to come as I am 30 mins. She said it was still fine and so I went.

I got switched TWICE. First was over the phone, the mamasan said it was CiCi, when I got there CiCi is said to be booked till 1am (closing time). She showed me Ada and said that if you do want to go ahead you only can have the 30 mins. Over the phone I said I wanted 45 mins for CiCi. I gave the money to Ada and she went outside the room and left me to shower by myself. When the girl knocked it was another girl and I even said to her, I think you are in the wrong room, I'm with Ada. She said Ada is now with another client.
I was already in my towel by this point.

Giving the money to one girl and then getting another girl is just wrong!

[ethanhunter]

Giving the money to one girl and then getting another girl is just wrong!

It even sounds comic if you ask me ! :miao:

[Mr. Who]

Plenty of thread bumping by 533 but no response to this? A shame really.

It's kind of funny how they bump their positive threads again and again while refusing to give any comments on this topic, even when this thread is only 5 threads away from their "favorite" threads.

[Drax]

Well, I still don't think the photos look alike. Everyone keeps referring to "Lilly" Whereas i mean "Lily" with two L's not three, ie, my gangbang girl. Is she at 647 as Jennifer?

Anyway, I heard Lily had recently gone on holidays, but came in for one day to 533 a week later because she was hanging out for sex! Holidays weren't agreeing with her! She practically devoured the poor guy who did the AR! So, yes, is she Jennifer at 647 - please?

Mate I can absolutely guarantee you Lily is Jennifer at 647. The photos on the 647 website are not the same quality as 533. However if you want a great hires photo of Lily google 'swl girls' , you may have to try 2 or 3 listings but last I checked they still have photo's up of Jennifer.

[lamb]

It's kind of funny how they bump their positive threads again and again while refusing to give any comments on this topic, even when this thread is only 5 threads away from their "favorite" threads.

Yup I agree.

[232464]

Most pictures at 533 website are fake, please notice the background of the pictures. only one pic of Lily is real.

[Oneonone]

Most pictures at 533 website are fake, please notice the background of the pictures. only one pic of Lily is real.

The pictures aren't fake, the photos of the girls are either taken by Angie or the girls give photo's of themselves to Angie.

They are then added to a background in Photoshop by the company that looks after the web site, he also shades out their faces etc.

[Sextus]

Looks like I was wrong - the pictures are shopped into the backgrounds!

But still, well done 533, compared to the minimum effort put in at every other shop in the universe except the expensive cauc shops.

[Oneonone]

Just to clear that issue up, and I hope this isn't boring, but..

Actually all those photos are taken in the locations shown

Sextus did you read my post? I took the trouble and interest to ask how it was done I asked the girls and they told me.

I then asked Angie who took the photos and she told me in most cases she did and that sometimes a girl would bring them in.

She told me she sends them to the webmaster and he photo shops them puts in the background and blanks the girls face.

So put your head in the sand if you wish but that is how it is done!

[Sextus]

So put your head in the sand if you wish but that is how it is done!

Well blow me down oneoneone, you are right! As this is quite interesting I have posted some of the photos here to show how well it is done and how it convinced me. But your words made me look a lot closer at them to figure out what is going on.

Here is a photo of lily - see how well that shadow is put in behind her? - very convincing! But if you look closer you'll notice that she is tilted slightly to the right, she hasn't been put in standing straight. Still, to accurately manually trace around her body with a selection tool to cut her out of the original photo and drag her across is very difficult. You can never do it with perfect accuracy, which means in the photo you drag her across into, you have to manually go around with a clone tool and heal all the innaccurate joins. Which is just as much or more work to do. The cost for this specialist work would be up to the same as the shop charges for the girl per hour. Hey! nothing wrong with that, in fact it is a credit to 533 that they go to this effort to show their girls like this.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/Lilya_zpscc077f42.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/Lilya_zpscc077f42.jpg.html)

And then you see her apparently sitting on the sofa, ie, interacting with the environment she isn't even in! And with a shadow from her put in too. Very well done! I assume she ws sitting on a bed in the brothel - but the lighting on her is rather good - how can Angie be taking these?

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/Lilyc_zps306e0166.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/Lilyc_zps306e0166.jpg.html)

Here, however, the shadow from Lily is coming towards us, when the lighting on lily is from the front, so that is an inconsistency, which again shows that you are right oneoneone.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/lilyb_zps5099f0bf.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/lilyb_zps5099f0bf.jpg.html)

Here with Jodie it is less convincing, the light on her is flat compared to the room - but hey! it is still well done!

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/Jodie2_zpscb75d1bb.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/Jodie2_zpscb75d1bb.jpg.html)

Here with Selina, again the shadow from her is coming towards us - even though the angle of it cleverly matches the angle of the light coming in through the door, there is no light source behind her at that angle to account for her shadow, ie, the shadow has been put in. But again, this is very good work!

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/Selina1_zpsb7f22acc.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/Selina1_zpsb7f22acc.jpg.html)

I mean, look at the tricky shape of the shadow on the bed behind Jodie - he's accounted for the distorted shape of her having her hand on her hip (but overlooked putting in a shadow behind the lowest part of her left leg.) But all this is alot of highly skilled work that I didn't think they'd have the budget for - or at least want to pay it!

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/Jodie1_zps11da5a0d.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/Jodie1_zps11da5a0d.jpg.html)

I don't know quite where he gets the shadows from - exceeds my basic knowledge! He's even curved the shadow to account for the curve of the mattress and the wooden frame that she isn't in the same room as. This is beyond the call of duty for a $150 per hour brothel webpage - compare it, for example, with the tripe masquerading as photos on the Ginza website, or 5*.

[232464]

The only way to prove the girls are real is the pictures should be taken in the shop with real background as other shops did.

[Oneonone]

The only way to prove the girls are real is the pictures should be taken in the shop with real background as other shops did.

Why? No one who knows or has seen any of the girls is disputing if the girls are real all we are discussing is how the background is done?

There is no dispute over the girls being real.

The background I find very interesting as in my opinion it is very well done.

I have met 90% of the girls and I have no doubt that their photos are real, a couple are photo shopped too much but still of the girl.

[CunningLinguist]

Taking some liberties here :)


Well blow me ... oneoneone!

Ahem!



to accurately manually trace around her body with a selection tool to cut her out of the original photo and drag her across is very difficult. You can never do it with perfect accuracy, which means in the photo you drag her across into, you have to manually go around with a clone tool and heal all the innaccurate joins. Which is just as much or more work to do. The cost for this specialist work would be up to the same as the shop charges for the girl per hour. Hey! nothing wrong with that, in fact it is a credit to 533 that they go to this effort to show their girls like this.

There are other ways to select besides manual which can make the work alot easier.



Very well done! I assume she ws sitting on a bed in the brothel - but the lighting on her is rather good - how can Angie be taking these?

The inference being ...



he's accounted for the distorted shape of her having her hand on her hip
I don't know quite where he gets the shadows from - exceeds my basic knowledge!

How can you tell it is a man doing the work ?

[thegoat]

This post was about Mico so getting back to her . I had a booking with another and was given Mico.
I reluctantly agreed coz I thought she might have a decent set of cans and I thought I could work with that.
But got caught out by the evil deceptive push up bra. She is a nice enough lady but she is ordinary looking
and i guess she gets switched alot as she has no bookings.
I don't like too fuck with someones means of income/ livelihood , but its fair too give warning to others before they blow $90/$150.
I have been fucked around a few times in this shop but most of the time things work out.
But I'will walk if it happens again.
As per the title, Fuck me once shame on you, fuck me twice shame on me!

[Sextus]

There are other ways to select besides manual which can make the work alot easier.

Do tell! The girls' bodies are skin and clothes and hair and are all different colours and an organic shape. Don't know how any automatic ways would be able to tell what was girl and what was background. Wow, how difficult would it be to trace the area betweem their legs for example, as with Selina with the floorboards showing between the gap in her legs.

[CunningLinguist]

Do tell! The girls' bodies are skin and clothes and hair and are all different colours and an organic shape. Don't know how any automatic ways would be able to tell what was girl and what was background. Wow, how difficult would it be to trace the area betweem their legs for example, as with Selina with the floorboards showing between the gap in her legs.

Try the fuzzy select or the "contiguous regions" select. It will select regions of a similar colour, you can do a bunch of these and add to the selection to make a whole body etc.

[Sextus]

I'll try it mate - thanks!

Dear the goat - sorry about this diversion, but the photos that the shops post of the girls is a pretty interesting topic, and it just came up during this thread. And hey! It was a good reason to get some hot wl photos up. I'm a BIG fan of lily for example, and the best news I heard about her recently (apart from the fact that she is on holidays at the moment :( ) is that she is working on the southside of the harbour now as well. I'd love to get her freshly back from holidays and dripping for it - wow!

[Mr. Who]

As per the title, Fuck me once shame on you, fuck me twice shame on me!

Well said.