PSE vs GFE

[Oneonone]

Do you fellow punters prefer PSE or GFE?

I have to admit I prefer GFE, PSE might be Ok the first time you meet a girl but for me after that I want something deeper and more meaning full.

A typical example is Lily at 533 she is advertised and promoted as PSE.

The first time I met her she was PSE real fun but for me too much in your face.

Since then I have seen her many time but only after I told her I want GFE not PSE in your face stuff.

Lily is a great GFE one of the best I have met, every now and then she slips back into PSE mode but if you just calm her down slowly and get her to switch back into GFE she is a real gem.

What do you all think.

[Filodude]

I agree about Lily's GFE it was quite good.

Personally I don't have a specific preference it really depends on the girl and the kind of mood we're both in, both styles are good for different reasons. It also depends on how many times I've Seen a girl the more I see a girl the more GFE it becomes. I know I've been with a couple if girls that are advertised as PSE and had a really good GFE style session and a few have told me they prefer to do a slow sensual session as opposed to always hard wild action all the time.

[heatseeker]

Oneonone
Many here know the textbook definition of PSE, but have not tried it themselves
Not mentioning any WL specifically, in general, what are the general inclusions that you get with PSE experience that you dont get with GFE ?

[Oneonone]

Oneonone
Many here know the textbook definition of PSE, but have not tried it themselves
Not mentioning any WL specifically, in general, what are the general inclusions that you get with PSE experience that you dont get with GFE ?

Well I am not an expert on PSE but for me it is sex full on in various positions bbbj may be CIM etc its in your face sort of stuff.

What I like is GFE so I can tell you more about that I like passion, kissing, dfk, kissing the body giving a cat bath slowly down to daty. Then sex usually starting in cowgirl with kissing and cuddling and working together to achieve an orgasm for both.

For me GFE is about making sure the girl has a good time as well as you the punter.

PSE is more about you the punter and the girl making sure you have a good time, that for me is the main difference.

[Oneonone]

I guess what I am trying to say is that PSE is about having sex. GFE for me anyway is about making Love. That a big difference.

You don't have to be in love with the girl to make love to her.

[Punter Poontang]

Well said Oneonone. I think it's more to do with the "vibe" of the session than any acronyms that are or aren't included.

GFE = softer, gentler love-making
PSE = raw, sweaty, animalistic fucking

Also agree with Filodude RE: variety, hence my real preference is for girls who can blend the two styles .... gentle, tender, loving moments in foreplay, then cutting loose and riding you to within an inch of your life once they're warmed up.

The only way I'm different is that repeat sessions have tended to get steamier. Try to be a real gentleman the first time I meet a girl, take my time to appreciate her and make sure she's comfortable, so that lends itself to slower GFE type sessions most of the time. But once we get to know each other a little and the girl is more comfortable, I find things usually become more uninhibited.

[Oneonone]

Well said Oneonone. I think it's more to do with the "vibe" of the session than any acronyms that are or aren't included.

GFE = softer, gentler love-making
PSE = raw, sweaty, animalistic fucking

Also agree with Filodude RE: variety, hence my real preference is for girls who can blend the two styles .... gentle, tender, loving moments in foreplay, then cutting loose and riding you to within an inch of your life once they're warmed up.

The only way I'm different is that repeat sessions have tended to get steamier. Try to be a real gentleman the first time I meet a girl, take my time to appreciate her and make sure she's comfortable, so that lends itself to slower GFE type sessions most of the time. But once we get to know each other a little and the girl is more comfortable, I find things usually become more uninhibited.

Spot on bro the best GFE never happens on the first meeting it is something that grows with time and understanding of what each other needs and likes.

[heatseeker]

Oneonone, it is elusive finding the GFE who can turn on the PSE
Obviously in the real world you would marry her haha
Its the luck of the P2P world, isnt it, of finding that lady that can do both the GFE and PSE, and they become your 'go to' regulars

Seriously though, Im a budget traveller at the moment, and the '1 hour punt and go scene' is either:
-'no DFK, mutually satisfying experience otherwise', or
-the 'GFE which for me includes BBBJ'

The PSE may remain elusive for the moment, or maybe I am just visiting the very cheap venues too much ; )

While on the subject, and I have harped on this subject before, no DFK is an absolute mood killer for me, and was the reason I have left P2P so late

You see, No DFK was the bad stereotype I had for working ladies before my career started recently, but my first punts had generous DFK so Im fixated on it haha

Also all my current and past gf gave good DFK, so why compromise gentleman ?

Now I know chemistry plays a part, and the WL has the final say with DFK, which is fine, but Im well groomed, healthy, fit, polite and easy on the eye, so it is disappointing

The trick is knowing beforehand if the lady is likely to provide DFK with you. Ha ha

[CunningLinguist]

Hey PSE and GFE are old now, everyone is doing GFE++ and PSE++ now ... :)

[jellyshots]

I'm into the real GFE, none of this silly softer, gentle lovemaking...

GFE - ML is sitting in front of the TV watching it. She holds her hand out, I give her my wallet. She takes all of the money out, counts in, leaves me $20. She then asks me to order pizza with the $20. I order pizza. I ask her if she wants to get in the spa, she says, "Sure, why not?" We get in and the first thing I want to do is drink. I try to touch her, she says no. I try to kiss her, she plays hard to get. She turns her back on me and lights up a smoke. I drink some more, get her tipsy too. Now I have a crack at her. She's all smiles now. We f*ck, hard, fast and a little desperately. Foreplay? What foreplay? BJ? You're kidding, right? It is GFE after all. We finish, drink some more. Pizza comes, we scoff it down. I ask her for some cash so I can put a punt on. She reluctantly gives me $50 back (from the $80 I started with). Yep, that about sums up real GFE. Oh, oops, forgot, I lay down on the table and fall asleep for 20 minutes while she whines at me about something unimportant... And she's wearing trakkies now... :slobber:

PSE - real PSE. Oh I get DT, BJ, animalistic sex... But Sextus is in the corner, dick out taking happy snaps and some dude is doing the lighting, some director and cameraman. Everyone's snickering coz girly wants yet ANOTHER f*cking macciato before she'll suck my cock again. Oh, and this time it cost me $5k for the all day shoot. And some f*cker keeps asking me to cum on command...

[heatseeker]

Haha jellyshots, nice one

Your GFE sounds pretty awful, surely it needs to be an ex-GFE ; )

[Oneonone]

The PSE may remain elusive for the moment, or maybe I am just visiting the very cheap venues too much ; )


I visit the $ 150 / Hour shops by choice, usually if you see a girl few time you can get good GFE with them and PSE is also on the menu with lots of them.

But in most cases its up to you and what balance you want and can fit into one hour.

For me the best is to go for two hours but then again you can have two punts for that price so its a balance of what you want and what you have to spend.

[heatseeker]

Oneonone, my young career so far is mirroring your modus operandi

Im still trying the basic venues to begin with

And so I totally agree with the options of the 2 hour experience, or the separate 1 hour experience x 2 ; )

The option you didnt include was the 2 women for the one hour ; ) On my do to list, but no rush there

So far I have gone the multiple 1 hour with different ladies, just to test the waters, and I agree, when you find a good one with DFK and your other preferences, then you tend to return to that lovely establishment

The lesson to business - find the good ladies and keep them

Doesnt mean they should be working every day though : s
Some of the nice ladies are working every day. WTF

[Oneonone]

Well I have done a few doubles, two ladies and its a change, I usually do it to keep the girl happy, for me you can't have a good GFE with a girl if someone else is in the room.

Even the really good girls are not so good if they work a lot for a good GFE its best to get the girl early in her shift and after she has had a day off preferably more than one day off.

[heatseeker]

"Even the really good girls are not so good if they work a lot for a good GFE its best to get the girl early in her shift and after she has had a day off preferably more than one day off"
Agreed Oneonone. I guessed the trade secret already ; )

Found a nice lady, but given she works every day until red monster, there is no way she is going to be able to orgasm regularly, even in the mornings ; )
Obviously the dollar bills are the incentive for such a busy workload

[Oneonone]

Your probably right the thing is if she works in a busy shop she is probably doing 15 to 20 jobs a shift, so not much good in that case.

There are shops that let the girls work every day if they wish but they only do a couple of jobs a day or only work a few hours they may still be all right, and yes that is one advantage of the $300 per hour shops most of the girls do less jobs per shift or per week.

[heatseeker]

Oneonone, sorry if there are 1000 links to this already

But 15 jobs a day. Can any woman perform adequately pussywise and fatiguewise on the 15th job of the day if you or I was to ask for her service ?

ie without relying on a 50 minute catbath to get through the session ?

[Oneonone]

Oneonone, sorry if there are 1000 links to this already

But 15 jobs a day. Can any woman perform adequately pussywise and fatiguewise on the 15th job of the day if you or I was to ask for her service ?

ie without relying on a 50 minute catbath to get through the session ?

I doubt it but I must admit some of these girls are pretty good, beats me how they can even move after that many jobs.

There was a girl I saw once I saw her lots of times and it was her last day before she went back to China I saw her in the morning first job, then she talked me into being her last job so I booked her for two hours and yes I was her 19th job for the day and to my surprise she still performed.

I doubt that she performed like that for the other 17 jobs but I don't know for sure.

My advise is get in early, also every thing else is clean and fresh, No other cocks or CIM etc.

[heatseeker]

Yes, I imagine that for a lot of jobs, the lady tries as much cat bathing and foreplay as she can get away with
My first career punt was wonderful enough, but she started with a 20 minute catbath of my lower legs

And fair enough, she is protecting her most valuable asset, lady P

I was as erect as Centrepoint, but she was mucking around down on George Street level

[AHLUNGOR]

I can tell you there are two MLs who can deliver these!!

Cici for the Girl Friend Effects

Tiffany for the Porn Star Effects and now retired !

As far as RnT is concerned !

Just my two cents

Cheers

[harmony]

Still getting my head around GFE.

Most I have seen someone is two times so far

[rooter]

Semantics !

[Oneonone]

Still getting my head around GFE.

Most I have seen someone is two times so far

Well I am a GFE man I must admit and for me to get a really good GFE you need to see the girl a few times and the relationship grows, but be warned don't fall in love, the thing just lasts the hour or two you are in the booking.

[Milf_Man]

I have a different mentality to a lot of you.

I prefer rough, dirty sex over soft, sensual type of sex.

I just get much more of a turn-on when i think of these WL as nothing more than a piece of trashy meat.

In case you're wondering, i like to dirty talk during sex :miao:

[Oneonone]

I have a different mentality to a lot of you.

I prefer rough, dirty sex over soft, sensual type of sex.

I just get much more of a turn-on when i think of these WL as nothing more than a piece of trashy meat.

In case you're wondering, i like to dirty talk during sex :miao:

Well each to their own as long as you respect the lady and no one gets hurt then its up to you and her!

[waynekerr]

I definitely prefer a GFE, but one with a deep sloppy BJ. Does that make sense to you?

WayneK.

[Licker]

I definitely prefer a GFE, but one with a deep sloppy BJ. Does that make sense to you?

WayneK.

Of course it does make sense.

I would love a girlfriend who gives a deep sloppy BJ.

But unfortunately I have to resort to GFE for that.

[Travelmate]

I can tell you there are two MLs who can deliver these!!

Cici for the Girl Friend Effects

Tiffany for the Porn Star Effects and now retired !

As far as RnT is concerned !

Just my two cents

Cheers

how about travelmate for the boy friend effects..... just kidding

[wilisno]

how about travelmate for the boy friend effects..... just kidding
Oh man ! Be careful ! Canberra just overturned the marriage law !

Assuming you were talking to Ahlungor ? :miao: