General talk BBBJ, CIM, DATY....aren't you guys worried about STIs? [Archive] - Aus99 Forum

markrmau2

24-11-2013, 10:38 PM

Hey guys,

I'm not trying to troll here, nor am I some sort of puritanical nut.... Actually, I am atheist and a true liberal - in the proper sense of the word (completely unlike our non-liberal ultra-conservative political party).

But what shocked me when reading ARs is the obviously cavalier attitude a lot of Bros have towards STIs.

I don't think HIV is the big issue here (it would appear that a dom is usually used for ejaculative moments).

But there are a whole host of sti's that could easily become prevalent if enough people embarked on the activities described in the ARs - BBBJ, CIM, DATY.....

Herpes
HPV
Chlamydia
Gonorrhea
Syphilis

Is anyone concerned about this?

Call me prude, but I personally only ever use a condom and never kiss, any part of the WL (if all punters took this attitude it would be to the WLs' benefit). I do caress the WL but this is purely for my pleasure - you read the WL AR's and they never get any satisfaction or arousal from the Johns.

Just curious - hope this doesn't upset people.

Happy punting!

henry_lawson

24-11-2013, 11:23 PM

I've wondered this myself, looking forward to some insights. Most infections can be cleared up with penicillin or other, but not Herpes or one of the Hepatitis types, and that is only if detected. Some infections have no symptoms until a lot of damage is done, and if one is active with ML/WL and not getting at least an annual full blood check, they are being irresponsible with both their health and the girl's.

It isn't just the punters who are careless, I've regularly had to restrain WL who get a bit carried away from touching me after they been pleasuring themselves. Also, their method of putting on a condom, by pulling it wide open with their potentially gash juiced fingers inside it (instead of simply rolling it on) is another means of infection transmission.

CunningLinguist

25-11-2013, 12:20 AM

BB service (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, DD) is a risk, and if you don't want to risk it that is a sensible choice to make.
If you do risk it you should get tested regularly and inform anyone you have been with (discreetly) if you test positive, they will thank you.
Also if you are into BB service avoid smelly rashy sick looking pussies etc. This doesn't stop you from contracting an STI but may lessen the risk as if the girl can't keep clean then there is more chance she doesn't get tested either.

CunningLinguist

25-11-2013, 01:49 AM

I used to hook up with an ex-receptionist lady of one of the online active agencies here. She told me once that one of the girls had chlamydia. The boss knew about it and nothing was done. WL and receptionist were too worried about contacting customers directly themselves (not sure what they were worried about). WL went off the roster for a few weeks then got back on the roster for a few weeks before leaving Sydney for good.

That is very disappointing to hear that the shop did nothing and still let her work.

Bracket

25-11-2013, 01:00 PM

There are lots of risks in life and each day we all take some form of risk, even if it's simply walking along the footpath and hoping that an out-of-control vehicle doesn't career off the road into us. The point is that you can't cocoon yourself from all of life's risks, so why get paranoid about just one of them?

I'm pretty sure I've seen statistics that you've got less chance of catching an STI from a WL who has regular health checks than you do from a casual relationship with a non-WL. Also, I've never heard of any punter catching an STI from a bbbj or CIM, and even though there may be statistics that prove me wrong I'm very confident that the risk is very low, similar to being squashed by a runaway steam-roller.

In any event you're a long time dead and I'm not going to let some fear of witches stop me enjoying life to the hilt.

wilisno

25-11-2013, 03:11 PM

That is very disappointing to hear that the shop did nothing and still let her work.
If a girl caught STI, it's not entirely her fault, maybe not her fault at all, but regardless of whose fault it is, it's silly for the shop not to inform her recent customers to get a test, the customers would appreciate them more !

CunningLinguist

25-11-2013, 05:56 PM

If a girl caught STI, it's not entirely her fault, maybe not her fault at all, but regardless of whose fault it is, it's silly for the shop not to inform her recent customers to get a test, the customers would appreciate them more !

I would be happy to hear from a shop via SMS if a girl I was with was found to have an STI, then I would get tested pronto. Better to find out ASAP and get treated than to spread it around. I hope all the shops are listening ...

Oneonone

25-11-2013, 06:11 PM

When I first started punting many years ago now nearly all girls didn't kiss, any French was CBJ, and if you did daty it was with a dam.

Asian girls changed all that bringing DFK, BBBJ, Daty to the service, some go even further with Natural unprotected sex.

I do not agree with girls offering unprotected sex but however I do like DFK, BBBJ, Daty with most of the girls I see.

I am not into Anal of CIM that's just my choice.

I like to think that I reduce the risk by the girls I choose, I won't go near a girl that I suspect of using or being involved in drugs and the girls need to show good hygiene by showering, using mouth wash etc.

But don't kid yourself the risk is still there and higher than if you just have protected sex without the additional services.

At the end of the day the choice is yours go with what you are comfortable with and respect the girls and let them go with their own limits.

rainjy

25-11-2013, 08:50 PM

I only saw in my whole punter life a Wl outcall have a rash when i opened her cloth (recomended by my friend). Its a habbit, open her cloth first before kissing to wash our body..to know any chance for sti seen.
The fact she got a bit rash near her pelviks made me otomatic shocked and stop what we're doing, and told her that i cant continue because i saw a bit red spot (looks like an red acne, whcih i think its a kind of herpes).

But sadly she told me it was her underware makes it like that.. I just give her money and she left.

A couple months later, my friend told me he got some sort the same thing, which i didnt asked any further about it.

Im not exactly sure its a herpes or what, but check before u use..just my 2cents from newbie

markrmau2

25-11-2013, 09:54 PM

Punter Poontang

25-11-2013, 11:24 PM

That is very disappointing to hear that the shop did nothing and still let her work.

Don't think they did?? It does say she was off the roster for a few weeks, presumably while the meds did their thing.

At the end of the day the choice is yours go with what you are comfortable with and respect the girls and let them go with their own limits.

Very well said.

However, I have a feeling that the risk of STIs is actually overstated - otherwise you guys would be writing ARs like - had DATY with a beautiful girl last week, and now my mouth has erupted in cold sores......

or

jeez I enjoyed the CIM but now it burns a bit when I pee....

Hahahahahahah. :-P

AHLUNGOR

26-11-2013, 12:20 AM

Interesting responses - thanks for that.

Personally I wouldn't risk it (I'm actually thinking of bringing thongs along next time I punt because I think I picked up a foot fungal infection in the showers over the last few weeks). But maybe I'm over sensitive...

However, I have a feeling that the risk of STIs is actually overstated - otherwise you guys would be writing ARs like - had DATY with a beautiful girl last week, and now my mouth has erupted in cold sores......

or

jeez I enjoyed the CIM but now it burns a bit when I pee....

Still, you can enjoy your CIM and DATY knowing that I haven't been there first.

This post does not contain medical advice - for medical advice you should consult your doctor!

This could be one of the reasons why so many punters are seeking FS in RnT shops and the only risks factor differences could be purely psychological !

For any of the risky sexual acts you get from a WL (DFK, DATY, BBBJ , DD, CIM etc- still with safe sex only), she will be doing all that with all her clients , and those clients are FS clients who are likely to have all the similar services all the times !!

While in a RnT shop, even when the ML offers the same list of risky services to you - she is likely to offer the same to all her clients! But the very fact that being a RnT shop , not all the clients will be willing to pay for all the extras and the clients being RnT punters - they may have a lesser chance of exposing themselves to STDs. If the majority of them are 95% RnT and only once in a Bluemoon gets FS !

And if you believe a certain ML only ever offer bbbj and FS to you - then You will feel much safer wouldn't you........lol

Does this make sense ??

Cheers

wilisno

26-11-2013, 12:47 AM

This could be one of the reasons why so many punters are seeking FS in RnT shops and the only risks factor differences could be purely psychological !

For any of the risky sexual acts you get from a WL (DFK, DATY, BBBJ , DD, CIM etc- still with safe sex only), she will be doing all that with all her clients , and those clients are FS clients who are likely to have all the similar services all the times !!

While in a RnT shop, even when the ML offers the same list of risky services to you - she is likely to offer the same to all her clients! But the very fact that being a RnT shop , not all the clients will be willing to pay for all the extras and the clients being RnT punters - they may have a lesser chance of exposing themselves to STDs. If the majority of them are 95% RnT and only once in a Bluemoon gets FS !

And if you believe a certain ML only ever offer bbbj and FS to you - then You will feel much safer wouldn't you........lol

Does this make sense ??

Cheers

On the contrary, it's just the same theory as you can have less chance to get STI from a street girl than a WL, which is a myth. WL's sure know how to keep themselves clean than ML's, especially when RnT places usually have no shower access. Also the wear and tear is also a myth, just read cmk76 report of Eva !

AHLUNGOR

26-11-2013, 12:59 AM

On the contrary, it's just the same theory as you can have less chance to get STI from a street girl than a WL, which is a myth. WL's sure know how to keep themselves clean than ML's, especially when RnT places usually have no shower access. Also the wear and tear is also a myth, just read cmk76 report of Eva !

Eva is fine, because she works at Stanmore, and they have two beautiful shower rooms ! that's what Coco does all day, washing and drying towels!! the Stanmore mls are showering whenever necessary I can assure you and Mimi in particular, showers after every client because she uses so much oil for her B2B ( she even showers me !)......lol

Cheers

wilisno

26-11-2013, 01:02 AM

Eva is fine, because she works at Stanmore, and they have two beautiful shower rooms ! that's what Coco does all day, washing and drying towels!! the Stanmore mls are showering whenever necessary I can assure you and Mimi in particular, showers after every client because she uses so much oil for her B2B ( she even showers me !)......lol

Cheers
In other words, Eva and Mimi are no difference than any WL's, so the rest is still a myth !

AHLUNGOR

26-11-2013, 01:15 AM

In other words, Eva and Mimi are no difference than any WL's, so the rest is still a myth !

No I didn't say that, they are MLs providing RnT services in a massage shop !

But they do get sweaty and oily sometimes and Mimi gets very oily everytime ! So they have a shower and keep themselves fresh and clean !!

I only posted this because you said WLs are usually cleaner than the MLs because of the generally lack of shower facilities in most RnT shops - which I agree! Then you mentioned Eva and CMK - I knew you didn't mean to associate the lady with the cleanliness bit but other people may misunderstand so I think it is necessary to clarify !!

Stanmore does have very good facilities for a RnT shop so why not give them some free ads ??

Cheers

wilisno

26-11-2013, 01:29 AM

No I didn't say that, they are MLs providing RnT services in a massage shop !

But they do get sweaty and oily sometimes and Mimi gets very oily everytime ! So they have a shower and keep themselves fresh and clean !!

I only posted this because you said WLs are usually cleaner than the MLs because of the generally lack of shower facilities in most RnT shops - which I agree! Then you mentioned Eva and CMK - I knew you didn't mean to associate the lady with the cleanliness bit but other people may misunderstand so I think it is necessary to clarify !!

Stanmore does have very good facilities for a RnT shop so why not give them some free ads ??

Cheers
I didn't say that's what you said. I said in other words, there's no difference in cleanliness between WL's and ML's, cleanliness is the personal thing, so avoid making that comparison again !

Rb34gtr

26-11-2013, 04:17 AM

To the OP, do your own research regarding the STI/STDs you've listed
then decide whether to take up those services or not.
I've heard of punters getting HIV from BBBJ to some punting 20 years and not catching a thing.

Oneonone

26-11-2013, 07:18 AM

I think you need to use your common sense, yes I know its in short supply when it comes to punting.

The main thing is to stay away from any druggies, they are the ones that are more likely to catch an std and spread it around.

If I think a girl is on drugs then I give her a big miss and if she hangs around at a shop too much I consider giving the shop a miss.

It only takes one infected person and it can spread around the shop to all girls and customers like the plague.

Use your eyes and ears and if it don't seem or feel right give it or her a miss.

Stay away from street girls and girls that don't have good hygiene or shower between jobs.

Bracket

26-11-2013, 04:45 PM

The original post in this thread asked about bbbj, cim and daty. If there’s an STI that you can pick up from kissing then you can probably pick it up from receiving a natural blowjob. So if you’re someone who is unwilling to DFK a woman through fear of picking up a disease from her then for you it makes sense to avoid natural blowjobs. It’s irrelevant to you whether it’s a plain bbbj or cim as well.

With oral sex any risk of STIs is higher for the performer than the receiver, and in those cases the risk occurs mainly when your mouth has cuts, sores or is irritated as in after brushing your teeth. So if a punter’s mouth is crook then daty is more risky than getting a blowjob.

Oneonone

26-11-2013, 04:56 PM

Good point as a male the higher risk is in kissing and doing daty so if you have a cut in your mouth or bleeding gums then give them a miss!

Revvedup

26-11-2013, 08:16 PM

similar to being squashed by a runaway steam-roller.

Where did you see that brother ? ;)

Licker

26-11-2013, 08:44 PM

similar to being squashed by a runaway steam-roller.

Where did you see that brother ? ;)

Well, it's not a steam-roller, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfEKBmE1yGA

markrmau2

26-11-2013, 10:04 PM

To the OP, do your own research regarding the STI/STDs you've listed
then decide whether to take up those services or not.

The original post in this thread asked about bbbj, cim and daty. If there’s an STI that you can pick up from kissing then you can probably pick it up from receiving a natural blowjob. So if you’re someone who is unwilling to DFK a woman through fear of picking up a disease from her then for you it makes sense to avoid natural blowjobs. It’s irrelevant to you whether it’s a plain bbbj or cim as well.

With oral sex any risk of STIs is higher for the performer than the receiver, and in those cases the risk occurs mainly when your mouth has cuts, sores or is irritated as in after brushing your teeth. So if a punter’s mouth is crook then daty is more risky than getting a blowjob.

For the technical 'what can I get?', you can of course consult the wikidoctor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease

I came into this scene a little later in life after a long term relationship ended about a year ago. It has actually made me feel more lonely than when I didn't punt - it just highlights the fact that while I am getting laid regularly, I don't have a deep emotional connection with a girl - a soul mate - someone I can love.

There is no way I am going to risk being in a position where I have just met the girl of my dreams and have to say to her 'hang on doll face, let's take it easy while I finish taking this course of antibiotics'.

Cheers

CunningLinguist

26-11-2013, 11:56 PM

For the technical 'what can I get?', you can of course consult the wikidoctor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease

I came into this scene a little later in life after a long term relationship ended about a year ago. It has actually made me feel more lonely than when I didn't punt - it just highlights the fact that while I am getting laid regularly, I don't have a deep emotional connection with a girl - a soul mate - someone I can love.

There is no way I am going to risk being in a position where I have just met the girl of my dreams and have to say to her 'hang on doll face, let's take it easy while I finish taking this course of antibiotics'.

Cheers

The wiki reference is quite informative!

markrmau2

30-11-2013, 11:42 PM

Well I'll just have to get off my high horse...

I tried another establishment last night - a real dive compared to the other 3 I have been too (yes, I am a bit of a newbie here).

And along comes a BBBJ, even though I didn't ask for it.

My dick hasn't fallen off yet - I'll keep you posted.

I've got to say, it was bloody good. Don't intend to repeat though.

wilisno

30-11-2013, 11:44 PM

Well I'll just have to get off my high horse...

I tried another establishment last night - a real dive compared to the other 3 I have been to (yes, I am a bit of a newbie here).

And along comes a BBBJ, even though I didn't ask for it.

My dick hasn't fallen off yet - I'll keep you posted.

I've got to say, it was bloody good. Don't intend to repeat though.
I'm sure you wont repeat it until next time ! :miao:

Barabus

01-12-2013, 02:10 AM

Well... The way I think it is this:

In my sexual career I have had about 12 girlfriends, 22 one night stands and 5 WL.

STIs contracted

Girlfriends: 5
One night stands: 2
WLs: 0

All of wich have been cured by antibiotics... I know it shouldn't be relied upon but the way I see it is the more likely someone is too have sex the more frequently they have tests/protect themselves. It's not the person that fucks 5 times a day with a condom/showers/listerine mouth wash. It's the chick that fucks twice a year and doesn't have a condom once That gives you shit =P

mrmitchell123

07-12-2013, 03:40 PM

syphon

07-12-2013, 04:50 PM

Max Impact

07-12-2013, 05:15 PM

Punted all of 3 times, condom on for sex but bbbj to start. This was about a year and a half ago no symptoms, until recently when I think I have unrine tract infection.

Turns out I have Chlamydia, just found out today and as you can imagine wife not very happy. So be careful cause something like chlamydia can show no signs for a long time.

Although chlamydia is fairly common you were very unlucky after only three times, that's less than a week for some of us. But it's a lesson to get checked often.

If the wife gets it then life as you know it is over. Unless you can get the antibiotic into her without her knowing. It's been done before.

Oneonone

07-12-2013, 05:52 PM

Punted all of 3 times, condom on for sex but bbbj to start. This was about a year and a half ago no symptoms, until recently when I think I have unrine tract infection.

Turns out I have Chlamydia, just found out today and as you can imagine wife not very happy. So be careful cause something like chlamydia can show no signs for a long time.

You got to be unlucky, most of us have been punting for years 3 or 4 times a week.

I think we all need luck but also make sure the shop and the girls all look clean, don't go with street wl's etc and I think your chances have to be better.

But to be honest you can just be unlucky and get a it anywhere.

CunningLinguist

08-12-2013, 01:01 AM

Although chlamydia is fairly common you were very unlucky after only three times, that's less than a week for some of us. But it's a lesson to get checked often.

If the wife gets it then life as you know it is over. Unless you can get the antibiotic into her without her knowing. It's been done before.

What are the tips for this ?

Max Impact

08-12-2013, 07:30 AM

CunningLinguist

08-12-2013, 09:02 AM

Get a repeat dose of the antibiotic and tell your wife that you have a unitary tract invention and that the doctor suggested your wife takes a dose as well.

Oh and your partner needs to take the dosage at the same time you do.

Will the doctor give you a repeat if you tell them you have a partner. Maybe it depends on the doctor.

In a cafe nearby:
Wife1: My dear hubby gave me some meds to make sure I don't have a UTI the other day, we took them together, how sweet!
Wife2: What a coincidence my hubby did the same thing last week.
Ball breaking cock blocking lady from another table: Get real ladies they have Chlamydia from sleeping around and you got infected too!

syphon

08-12-2013, 10:25 AM

mrmitchell123

09-12-2013, 02:27 PM

Ok. Sorry for the scare. Turns out it was not from a wl. I got it from a stripper at mens gallery pitt st. The horny bitch took out my cock after getting me hard and jumped straight on. We both got kicked out. The reason I didn't remember this at first was because I was almost black out drunk.

I have only come to this conclusion after going back to another doctor of mine where he had done the tests a year ago and I was clean.

Again sorry for the scare.

And as for the wife. She never takes antibiotics, she would just drink vinegar to get rid of a uti. And she knows the doctor I go to as we have the same doctor, she would know if I have been there and he would tell her what he knows.

So screwed either way.

AHLUNGOR

09-12-2013, 02:44 PM

The horny bitch took out my cock after getting me hard and jumped straight on. We both got kicked out.

..........So screwed either way.

Hi Mitch,

Did she jumped on you as giving you a BBBJ or a bare backed cowgirl fuck ??

Hard to imagine a stripper would do that at the work place !!

Hope all goes well for you,

Good luck

Cheers

juscruisin58

09-12-2013, 03:19 PM

And she knows the doctor I go to as we have the same doctor, she would know if I have been there and he would tell her what he knows.

So screwed either way.

That is an outright breach of Dr / patient confidentiality and punishable by law

Oneonone

09-12-2013, 03:46 PM

That is an outright breach of Dr / patient confidentiality and punishable by law

I am sure he is smart enough not to come out and tell her just suggest she take some antibiotics and when she says why reply you better ask you husband!

Punter Poontang

09-12-2013, 04:03 PM

That is an outright breach of Dr / patient confidentiality and punishable by law

100%. The only thing missing from that story was the standard intro "I never thought this would happen to me, but ...."

wilisno

09-12-2013, 04:12 PM

And administering medicine to another person without her knowledge should be charged as drink-spiking !

Max Impact

09-12-2013, 04:43 PM

Never go to the family doctor for tests.

That's from RULES OF PUNTING 1.01.

Tk001

09-12-2013, 10:32 PM

Stripper and doctor story sound like a Hollywood story

Max Impact

09-12-2013, 11:48 PM

That is an outright breach of Dr / patient confidentiality and punishable by law

Sorry but a doctor has a professional obligation to protect the health of their patients and would inform the partner. Confidentiality is less of a professional obligation, and besides, they just have to suggest a cursory test to the spouse- not stating the reason why.

Oneonone

10-12-2013, 06:51 AM

Never go to the family doctor for tests.

That's from RULES OF PUNTING 1.01.

Yes but you still got to be careful if you use your real name I think that it is all linked to a data base these days and so all your medical history is in one place! I am not 100% sure but if its not at present that's the way it is heading.

Max Impact

10-12-2013, 08:21 AM

Licker

10-12-2013, 08:29 AM

Yes but you still got to be careful if you use your real name I think that it is all linked to a data base these days and so all your medical history is in one place! I am not 100% sure but if its not at present that's the way it is heading.

"all linked to a data base these days and so all your medical history is in one place!"

This most certainly is not the case at the moment.
There is NO one big data base that holds your information (and that would be against the privacy act).

The only way your medical history is in one place, is that you have only ever used the same clinic or hospital.
Some hospitals/clinics are connected (for example private clinics belonging to the same company), but most are not.

It may be heading that way some time in the future, but that requires a change in legislation, that I don't think is going to happen any time soon.

Oneonone

10-12-2013, 08:51 AM

The government Has already spent a fortune on a central data base for medical records see the following.

http://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/health+news/your+medical+records+could+be+online,17621

Licker

10-12-2013, 09:24 AM

Like I said, it may be headed that way, but...

From the above article:

The choice to opt in to the scheme "is cemented in the PCEHR Bill, which states that a consumer 'may apply' for registration". But that Bill is only in draft form and legislation can change.

It is currently optional to have your data in it (and from technical point of view it does not exist).

I think they will face big challenges in changing the legislation.
In it's current form it does not define specifically who can see your data as long as they are registered health professional, and that will be a time consuming issue to tackle. Would you want your dentist to have access to your last STI checks?

Punter Poontang

10-12-2013, 08:23 PM

Would you want your dentist to have access to your last STI checks?

Your dentist probably has a right to know if you're carrying something in the throat that they're up to their knuckles in. :-P

lockhart

10-12-2013, 08:26 PM

CunningLinguist

10-12-2013, 08:53 PM

Your dentist probably has a right to know if you're carrying something in the throat that they're up to their knuckles in. :-P

Dentists these days wear gloves and goggles, so you coudl have necrotising faciitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis) and they would still be ok ...

harmony

10-12-2013, 09:57 PM

The future will see all medical records centralised on the cloud

Then the USA government will insist Google have access to these records

Then a whistleblower will release all results for all to read

Would make interesting reading - wonder who in Federal Parliament has seen a doctor recently

Licker

10-12-2013, 10:38 PM

Your dentist probably has a right to know if you're carrying something in the throat that they're up to their knuckles in. :-P

Well, I agree on his right to know of any potential infectious risks. And the person should inform him about those.
But I respectfully disagree on the dentist's right to see ALL your medical history, including everything that really does not concern him.

Any reasonable person who's carrying a infectious disease in the throat should be smart enough to postpone a dentist appointment until the the infection has been treated. Any person who's data would be in that currently imaginary database would know that they have an infectious disease.

In the case where the infection is in some other orifice of that same 'reasonable' person (urethra or rectum for example) might not cause any risk for his (or hers) dentist, yet based on the proposed (note PROPOSED) bill, the dentist still could check your history of anal warts and cases of genital herpes.

And I just used dentists as an example. That would include a plethora of other health care professionals, possibly even the massage shop were you go to get your remedial massage.

Just to be clear on this!
In theory, I am not against this idea of eHealth database. But the safeguards of who can access and what need to be considered VERY carefully and written into the law with adequate penalties for any breaches. And then the actual technical implementation needs to make sure, that no one who is not supposed to see some of your data. really cannot see it.

And that will still take several years to implement.

In my view, the only person who should have access to ALL your medical history, is the doctor who is treating you at the emergency rescue unit when you are unconscious and unable to provide the information that may decide whether you live or die. Or when you're going to a major surgery and they need to check for any underlying conditions or allergies.

Naturally, every person could still give his GP or any treating doctor his consent to see the information, if they so wish.

harmony

10-12-2013, 10:47 PM

Agreed that a central database would be helpful

But there has been no greater privacy breach of government department security than the recent Snowdon leaks

In some ways, it pays to have a disorganised health care records system

I remember a few years ago a lot of a leading banks customers had their financial records thrown out at a local community rubbish bin, and the wind on that day led them to be strewn all over the road !

CunningLinguist

11-12-2013, 12:43 AM

A centralised database with appropriate access and checks in a perfect world would be ideal.
Last time I checked it wasn't a perfect world so I think it is a really bad idea.

Licker

11-12-2013, 12:58 AM

A centralised database with appropriate access and checks in a perfect world would be ideal.
Last time I checked it wasn't a perfect world so I think it is a really bad idea.

You're right there!

Even though the technology wasn't quite what it is now, they had a centralised database in Soviet Union and in East Germany.
Then again, they also had a "perfect" society :burn:

wilisno

11-12-2013, 01:03 AM

You're right there!

Even though the technology wasn't quite what it is now, they had a centralised database in Soviet Union and in East Germany.
Then again, they also had a "perfect" society :burn:
Yep, only the PARTY exists, no individuals !

harmony

11-12-2013, 10:39 PM

Yes, the only great centralised database that works is AUS99, and Ahlungors collection of great images

syphon

12-12-2013, 02:05 PM

Whoa... Wish I did not read this. I had a checkup last week and get the results on Monday! No symptoms, just felt I needed to get checked.
To say my wife would be "not very happy" would be an understatement. If I had chlamydia, I could not possibly tell her. I would say my marriage and my life, as I know it would be over, if I did.

All clear!!! phew... and I have had more bbbj and daty than I could ever try to calculate.
Some of the frightening stories that appear in this forum from time to time, may well be true. They may also be total bullshit and posted by wowsers who simply want to spoil the fun of others.

harmony

12-12-2013, 11:30 PM

Good news syphon

I suspected the same as you, although I will comment fully once I too am tested ; )

BrainSex

22-12-2013, 10:22 AM

Back to the OP:

I was contacted by a FL whom I had met a couple of times. She was out of the game and let me know she had Clamydia. I went to my 'alternative' medical practice. I use a Dr that is a bulk billing clinic not related to our family clinic. It provides some level of separation of data. My test was negative. Interestingly in 27 years of punting, never had a positive test result.

My life long partner did develop cells heading towards cervical cancer which lead to a full hysterectomy. Tests showed she had HPV which could only have come from me (which was pointed out). My condom use has been 99% and was hindered just once when drunk in Bangkok many years ago.

While you guys are talking about infections that can be cured by antibiotics, there are still infections that you can carry and transmit (without any knowledge or symptoms) and that will have long terms effects for your committed partner.

Has this changed my habits? Unfortunately no, but I do always use condoms outside the house.

Cheers

syphon

22-12-2013, 02:18 PM

Yes Hpv is certainly a worry! As well as increasing possibility of cervical cancer in women, it may increase possibility of throat and mouth cancers. (I say may, because it seems to depend which doctor you ask)
Michael Douglas openly attributes his cancer to his love of cunnilingus!

waynekerr

22-12-2013, 02:35 PM

Michael Douglas openly attributes his cancer to his love of cunnilingus!

Oh yeah! He smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish, but that had nothing to do with it.

WayneK.

syphon

22-12-2013, 02:45 PM

Oh yeah! He smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish, but that had nothing to do with it.

WayneK.

haha good point!

vvillie

22-12-2013, 09:53 PM

Michael Douglas openly attributes his cancer to his love of cunnilingus!

Lol, With a wife with looks like that, I can completely understand his love of cunnilingus.

Vic

25-12-2013, 02:30 PM

Lol, With a wife with looks like that, I can completely understand his love of cunnilingus.

Great thread thanks for this

abuzer

26-12-2013, 12:02 PM

wilisno

26-12-2013, 12:28 PM

Hi guys,

I would like to ask how can i get sti test in Sydney ? I am not australian citizen and i have no medicare. On the other hand i can not go to my family doctor, of course.
If it is free and keep records anonymously would be great. Any ideas ?
Thanks
Just go to Sydney Hospital Sexual Health Clinic, and other government run clinics, you don't need to be a citizen, you don't even need to give them your real name. BTW, it's all free of charge !

Max Impact

26-12-2013, 05:09 PM

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/sexual-health-clinics.aspx

Beware the clinic at Sydney Hospital will only see WL, WM, Gay and those with symptoms. Try a local one instead.

CunningLinguist

26-12-2013, 07:42 PM

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/sexual-health-clinics.aspx

Beware the clinic at Sydney Hospital will only see WL, WM, Gay and those with symptoms. Try a local one instead.

I think the Kings Cross one is just if not more restrictive these days also.

abuzer

26-12-2013, 09:26 PM

Thank you for quick reply bros.
I checked the website and i think parramatta clinic is ok for me.
This will be my first time sti test, is it only blood test or include some dr check up?

wilisno

26-12-2013, 09:38 PM

Thank you for quick reply bros. I checked the website and i think parramatta clinic is ok for me. This will be my first time sti test, is it only blood test or include some dr check up?
Blood and urine tests.

Max Impact

26-12-2013, 09:51 PM

I think the Kings Cross one is just if not more restrictive these days also.

They are quite restrictive but in which way? Only strippers with fishnets?

Licker

26-12-2013, 10:29 PM

They are quite restrictive but in which way? Only strippers with fishnets?

Since it's close to Oxford st, I guess gay guys are included.

Jbiscuit

27-12-2013, 12:26 AM

Crap, this thread is a real wake-up call. I've been considering going to a WL for a long time, and I guess this issue has been in the back of my mind. There's no way I could risk getting an STI and then transferring it to my fiance.

The problem is that I would never cheat on my girl, but she has such a low libido... we're only having sex once a year or so. As a 30 year old guy, it's getting to be more (or less) than I can handle. I figured punting would be the obvious answer, considering there's no emotional connection. But the STI risk is just too high I guess. Even a low risk is too high.

Argh :spook:

wilisno

27-12-2013, 01:48 AM

Licker

27-12-2013, 02:09 AM

In that case, it's better to let your tool rust away or gather moss then ! ;) ;) ;)

Now, now... There's always Ms Palmer and her five daughters :shout:

Then again, who said he needs to get BBBJ or do DATY?
Condom on and go for it... or go to RnT and get a HJ.

wilisno

27-12-2013, 02:13 AM

Jbiscuit

27-12-2013, 03:00 AM

Even those are of low risk, not no risk !

RnT... with surgical gloves on.

Yep, really living the dream! :cool2:

wilisno

27-12-2013, 03:20 AM

RnT... with surgical gloves on.

Yep, really living the dream! :cool2:
+1 ;) ;) ;)

And instead of using massage oil, use iodine to kill germs ! Lol

BBBJ

27-12-2013, 04:22 AM

Treating clam take two tabs.... easy enough to mask in the missus' drink lol

markrmau2

27-12-2013, 05:29 AM

syphon

27-12-2013, 11:17 AM

Thank you for quick reply bros.
I checked the website and i think parramatta clinic is ok for me.
This will be my first time sti test, is it only blood test or include some dr check up?

As well as blood and urine tests, you should have a mouth/throat swab.

Licker

27-12-2013, 11:58 AM

Now, now... There's always Ms Palmer and her five daughters :shout:

Then again, who said he needs to get BBBJ or do DATY?
Condom on and go for it... or go to RnT and get a HJ.

Even those are of low risk, not no risk !

"Ms Palmer and her five daughters" is a reference to ones' own hand, so if you get an STI from spanking the monkey then you deserve it. :burn:

But otherwise, yes, there is always some risk related to anything you do.

But getting anything (an STI that is) from a hand job (if the girl has washed her hands and trust me they do) is slim to none.

Unless of course you start flipping her flaps with your fingers and then do the dog thing (they're always sniffing things).

wilisno

27-12-2013, 02:17 PM

"Ms Palmer and her five daughters" is a reference to ones' own hand, so if you get an STI from spanking the monkey then you deserve it. :burn:

But otherwise, yes, there is always some risk related to anything you do.

But getting anything (an STI that is) from a hand job (if the girl has washed her hands and trust me they do) is slim to none.

Unless of course you start flipping her flaps with your fingers and then do the dog thing (they're always sniffing things).
I was responding to your RnT comment ! ;) ;) ;)

CunningLinguist

27-12-2013, 09:42 PM

They are quite restrictive but in which way? Only strippers with fishnets?

They won't see anyone normal ...

CunningLinguist

27-12-2013, 09:43 PM

Max Impact

27-12-2013, 09:46 PM

Just see a ML and get no natural services then you won't get an STI, another good thing is that this isn't cheating either ... :)

Well where is the fun in that?

CunningLinguist

27-12-2013, 09:52 PM

Well where is the fun in that?

Well if you are only getting laid once a year from your GF then I reckon seeing a naked stranger walking around and massaging your cock with her hands and breasts would be quite fun, and you could always pretend you were cheating by getting a HJ :)

wilisno

27-12-2013, 09:57 PM

Just see a ML and get no natural services then you won't get an STI, another good thing is that this isn't cheating either ... :)
He already thought of getting the ML to wear surgical gloves when doing HJ, just to be safe ! ;) ;) ;)

Max Impact

27-12-2013, 09:57 PM

I'm spoilt I think!

Jbiscuit

28-12-2013, 09:38 PM

Maybe I'll just take up a hobby. Badminton. Or crossword puzzle designing.

I was seriously considering going to 533 Willoughby, but I don't think I have to the power to turn down a BBBJ, which is why I'm back to square one.

Though, as some people said, the chance of getting an STI from some random hookup is just as high, if not higher, than with a WL.

harmony

28-12-2013, 11:08 PM

Jbiscuit, are you still going on about STI and oral sex ?

I share your concerns, and from now on will ask my working ladies to gargle before and after the session

Not just a teeth cleansing wash, but a proper deep gargle which cleanses the throat, where the infection may reside

Ok, no definite scientific evidence for this, but I imagine that a good gargle before the lady goes down on you makes it a pretty low risk pleasure

My 2 cents worth (totally unscientific)

For the record, the only STI I ever got, cured with antibiotics long ago, was with a girlfriend

vvillie

28-12-2013, 11:15 PM

I have been meaning to get an Sti test, and over this holiday period seems to be the perfect time for it. Unfortunately my local gp is closed for the next week, and the sexual health clinic in my area seems to be closed as well.

Does anyone know a place in the inner west still open that does testing? Or am I better off waiting a few weeks in the new year?

Jbiscuit

28-12-2013, 11:21 PM

Jbiscuit, are you still going on about STI and oral sex ?

I share your concerns, and from now on will ask my working ladies to gargle before and after the session

Ha yes, 4 posts to my name and I'm a freaking broken record I guess?

Hmm... rocking up with a litre bottle of Listerine. Could work. :smile:

harmony

28-12-2013, 11:25 PM

Hi vvillie, good on you for wanting to keep yourself disease free
And to all my friends on our forum ...
As one of our New Year 2014 resolutions, lets all get checked out !
I will probably start a new thread early next year on this subject ; )
Dont be ashamed guys, good sexual health is something to be proud of, not embarrassed about !

If you want totally anonymous and hassle free, maybe try the Sexual Health Clinic in Sydney Hospital, Macquarie Street, in the city
I know its not Inner West, but its very central
Its quiet in the city at the moment, and you can always get a train to Martin Place - the Centre is less than 5 minutes walk from the station, in Sydney Hospital

You dont even need an appointment, but ring them first to make sure they are open during the holiday period.
Its totally totally free too, and you ring them in a few days to get the results (from what I remember) !
They are extremely experienced, and they see lots of people, including sex workers, so they should know what they are doing
And they know how to do it more or less anonymously
Ask them if they even need your Medicare card

This was taken from their website, its a free Government service:
Location: Level 3, Nightingale Wing, Sydney Hospital,Macquarie St, Sydney NSW 2000
Telephone: 9382 7440
Email sshcmail@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au
NOTE: Appointments and clinical enquiries cannot be provided via the SSHC Email.

http://www.sshc.org.au/OpeningHours.aspx

Max Impact

29-12-2013, 08:34 AM

As posted many times here, Sydney Hospital Sexual Clinic will only see WL's, WM's, gays and those with symptoms as they are so busy. Same with the Kings Cross branch.

Best to visit a suburban Sexual Health Clinic.

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/sexual-health-clinics.aspx

ukoyrnez

29-12-2013, 09:29 AM

Really? Is it because of the holiday season rush? I've actually been to the Sydney one before not long ago, so just wondering when this restriction started.

Licker

29-12-2013, 11:39 AM

Really? Is it because of the holiday season rush? I've actually been to the Sydney one before not long ago, so just wondering when this restriction started.

Not the holiday season, but because they are generally busy.
They reserve the right - so to speak - to advise you to go to GP or some other clinic, if you don't meet the criteria.
If they are not busy, they may take you in, even if you don't meet the criteria.

Did you have symptoms? Or did you say you had?

Who we see http://www.sshc.org.au/WhoWeSee.aspx

SSHC provides free and confidential testing, support, treatment and management of Sexually Transmissible Infections (STI), HIV/AIDS and viral hepatitis. We are funded to provide care to people with symptoms of STI, to people who have had sex with someone with an STI and to people at increased risk of STI and HIV, which includes; people living with HIV/AIDS, gay/men who have sex with men (MSM), sex workers and their clients, young people 24 years old and under, Aboriginal people and injecting drug users (IDU). These people are at increased risk of acquiring STI.

How to make an appointment http://www.sshc.org.au/HowToMakeApp.aspx
Whilst SSHC provides specialist sexual health care, the majority of STI screening is performed by general practitioners (GP) in the community.
For this reason, whether you are new to our service or have been here before, your STI risk will be assessed by one of our nurses, who will advise you on the service that best meets your needs.

This assessment can take place in person, by phone or, by far the quickest , by completing the online Am I at risk tool.

If it is determined that SSHC can best meet your needs through one of our range of specialist on-site or off-site clinics, the nurse will schedule an appointment or advise on how to access the service.

Drop in service

SSHC also provides a drop-in service (no appointment required) and priority is given to those people who require urgent assistance or to those who have made a prior arrangement to pick up their results however there may be a wait of up to 2 hours.

If you attend without an appointment but are not in need of urgent assistance, it is possible that you may be made an appointment for another day or referred to another service.

Max Impact

29-12-2013, 12:58 PM

Really? Is it because of the holiday season rush? I've actually been to the Sydney one before not long ago, so just wondering when this restriction started.

Did you look like a hooker or gay man that day maybe?

syphon

29-12-2013, 01:25 PM

Tell them you are a working man, catering to the sexual needs of young women! I don't think they would believe me but might work for some!!

wilisno

29-12-2013, 02:07 PM

Really? Is it because of the holiday season rush? I've actually been to the Sydney one before not long ago, so just wondering when this restriction started.
Finally, someone clarified this myth !

It shows that all clinics will see everybody, regardless of whether he or she is a worker in the industry, they only decline when they're getting too busy, and resume serving the general public when they're not !

So it's worth a try, just get off the train at Martin Place, walk across the road to the clinic, have a go !

I myself have no problem going to my own GP though !

ukoyrnez

29-12-2013, 02:59 PM

Lol the people sitting in the waiting room looked like regular everyday people, myself included, so no you don't need to look gay or drugged. It's just that if you drop in without an appointment through the phone, or are there for the first time, they'll have a nurse see you first and ask the general questions to see what symptoms you have. You just have to punch in your details on the screen when you arrive. The last time I went they asked for my Medicare details which was new. I didn't have any symptoms that time - but it was a subsequent check from a prior visit and it was an all clear. I did make an appointment though. If you make no appointments, or if they think it's more appropriate, they'll suggest you go see your local doc to hopefully get quicker treatment if they themselves can't book you in earlier for treatment.

But going back to the very first session, that time I did have symptoms, so perhaps that's why they saw me. Some doctors there do ask some really forward questions about sexual history and partners, and will make it a point that you should do the right thing by contacting partners that you have an STI. Depends in the doctor I guess. Treatments are usually given the second time they see you unless it's really clear from their 5 minute test that you've got something. At which point they'll jab you with antibiotics.

They'll send you periodic SMS to go back for a check up, too.

So yeah, unless they've changed their policy, they'll see regular folks. Maybe they'll get annoyed at you behind your back, but who knows.

Max Impact

29-12-2013, 04:17 PM

It's not a myth. I have first hand experience with this.

Anyway...toddle off to there if you have an afternoon to waste.

harmony

29-12-2013, 04:32 PM

I have last been to the Sexual Health Clinic that I recommended in Sydney Hospital, about 6 months ago

Simply put, in medical terms, we are all a high risk group, because we visit working ladies, and I for one enjoy DFK/BBBJ/DATY. High risk activity. Full stop.

I said I was high risk, and there were no further questions asked

I think I just turned up, but obviously not at a very very busy typical time, such as lunch time or 530pm on a weekday

Common sense prevails

The other point is that a lot of peoples GPs are away until the second week in January. Fact. Including my GP

I will ring the clinic on Monday, and check this for myself. I recommended this place in Sydney Hospital because I have been there 3-4 times as a straight man over a 10 year period

Anyway, let me ring tomorrow and let you know how I go

I will tell the truth to the clinic - I am high risk, and my GP is on vacation

I think generally they want to hear that you have symptoms, but Im just going to say I am high risk, and my GP is not available

wilisno

29-12-2013, 05:22 PM

Bro Ukoyrnez already said they also see non workers, so it's a myth !

He also said to call ahead for a booking so you don't have to waste a whole afternoon waiting !

So harmony confirmed it too with first hand experience !

Licker

29-12-2013, 06:04 PM

I thought that the quote from their website I posted earlier was pretty clear.
I'll break it into lines, so it's easier to read

We are funded to provide care
- to people with symptoms of STI,
- to people who have had sex with someone with an STI and
- to people at increased risk of STI and HIV, which includes;

- people living with HIV/AIDS,
- gay/men who have sex with men (MSM),
- sex workers and their clients,
- young people 24 years old and under,
- Aboriginal people and
- injecting drug users (IDU).
These people are at increased risk of acquiring STI.

If you are in one of those groups, they will take you in.

So, anyone here who says they've been there and received care (which means tests and/or medication), would you say you belong to one or both of the groups:
- people with symptoms of STI
- sex workers and their clients

It's a different question all together whether you or the clinic regard you as the member of general public :cool2:

Those who rock up and say: "I'm here just to do a half yearly check" and answer "no" to all of the questions of belonging to any of the groups above (like some might do), will likely be directed to their GP or some other medical clinic.
It is a funding and resource issue, nothing more. Those not in high risk are preferred to get their test elsewhere.

harmony

29-12-2013, 06:11 PM

Thanks Licker for spelling it all out

"sex workers and their clients"

I dont turn up to Sexual Health Clinics for periodic checkups. Im too busy for this

I turn up when I change girlfriend, and have symptoms

I also will turn up now that I have adopted a higher risk lifestyle

My initial recommendation to everyone on this forum isnt a message to the general public

Its to my friends here who visit working ladies regularly, and especially those who enjoy BBBJ and DATY

The only STI I have been positive for since going to Sydney Sexual Health, Sydney Hospital, 10 years ago, was from my very FIRST girlfriend. Girlfriend

Then no other STI with over 40 sexual partners (non working girls)

Get checked. And if you dont know where, and you are high risk like me, ring Sydney Hospital tomorrow. I will be doing the very thing that I recommend

Update you all tomorrow ; )

Licker

29-12-2013, 06:28 PM

My initial recommendation to everyone on this forum isnt a message to the general public

I know it wasn't. This is a punting forum.

But, believe or not, there are those who visit WL's regularly, but don't have the guts to say so when at the clinic.
(Shame, embarrassment, religious reasons = denial, etc...)
And they will be directed to other clinics.

I don't think there are many among the regular posters, but then again, pretty much anyone can read this forum.
And somehow I think that the silent punters (guests of this forum), are more likely to fall into the category of denying punting when at the clinic.

Max Impact

29-12-2013, 06:33 PM

harmony

29-12-2013, 06:35 PM

Fair point, lots of guys are too shy to admit they visit working ladies

But if this means they continue to remain unchecked, then we need to address this

I am happy to tell the professional health worker (administration, or nurse - its usually a nurse I talk to on the phone) that I see numerous working ladies, on a weekly basis, and I have symptoms

Of course, I always make sure I am a long way from earshot of anyone who could be overhearing my conversation

Guys, you are usually going to be talking to a nurse on the phone:

But if noone else can overhear your call (so dont ring from your work desk) they have heard far worse things than "I see working ladies, I see prostitutes, but I dont like the word prostitute [: )]"

Let me tell you what they hear apart from your very innocuous statement ("I see working girls")

"I am a working lady, and I average sleeping with 10 men a day"
"I have a large ulcer on my penis, and it has been there for 10 months"
"I have had HIV/AIDS diagnosed this year, and I just had unprotected sex with my new boyfriend"
"I am gay, and have been dateraped"

So, saying you see working ladies is actually a yawn statement for Sexual Health Staff.
Honestly it is a yawn.

harmony

29-12-2013, 06:37 PM

As I said, I have been to this Sexual Health Centre 3-4 times
Each time they will ask you to try to have a full bladder, ie do not piss when you wake up, if you have a morning appointment
Otherwise they may ask you not to piss for a few hours before your appointment, as they take a urine sample, which is one way to diagnose Chlamydia and other STIs

During your appointment, the (female) nurse in my 3-4 times asked me basic questions, and took the necessary swabs
She had to call the doctor in just once in my 3-4 visits.
Depending on staffing and how busy it is, you may instead be allocated a Doctor
Basic questions are taken, and also take the samples (blood and or swabs)

The whole process takes 15 minutes
Simple

And last time I went, they give you this anonymous card to ring for the results, and they give you a patient number.
So you dont even have to ring and say, Im John Smith, do I have an STI
You just say, I am patient 2443, may I get my results ?

Simple

wilisno

29-12-2013, 06:39 PM

Its easy to get an appointment for the interview with a nurse. That's agreed; its the ability to see a doctor after that that is in question. We have had differing results. Some people with no experience on this subject should shut up though.
Unless you call Bro Ukoyrbez with first hand experience is without experience, then he should shut up !

Licker

29-12-2013, 07:12 PM

Please gentlemen,

Let's not turn this into a pissing contest on who can get a visit at the Sydney Sexual Health Centre.

Please understand, that they are busy and overworked and would prefer that if you can visit some other clinic, that would help them in their workload.
That is in essence of the message they are trying to convey on the website.

This is a time and resourcing issue for them, they would like to be able to concentrate to taking care of the high risk groups.
It's pretty much the same as if you have a flu, NSW health would prefer that you go to a GP rather than rocking up at the emergency unit at Royal North Shore on a Friday night. (well not exactly the same, but the sentiment is there)

You can visit any of the other NSW Sexual Health Clinics, see the link posted by Max Impact

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualh...h-clinics.aspx

Or you can visit any of the other medical centres (private), see a GP and get the tests done.
It's still free, and the cost of GP is covered by Medicare.

And when I say GP, it does not have to be "your" GP, if you're worried about your wife hearing about it.
There's at least four medical centres within 4 block radius from Wynyard.

I know it may be a convenient location, but don't we travel for our punts to much more inconvenient locations than the other medical centres?

wilisno

29-12-2013, 07:33 PM

Please gentlemen,

Let's not turn this into a pissing contest on who can get a visit at the Sydney Sexual Health Centre.

Please understand, that they are busy and overworked and would prefer that if you can visit some other clinic, that would help them in their workload.
That is in essence of the message they are trying to convey on the website.

This is a time and resourcing issue for them, they would like to be able to concentrate to taking care of the high risk groups.
It's pretty much the same as if you have a flu, NSW health would prefer that you go to a GP rather than rocking up at the emergency unit at Royal North Shore on a Friday night. (well not exactly the same, but the sentiment is there)

You can visit any of the other NSW Sexual Health Clinics, see the link posted by Max Impact

Or you can visit any of the other medical centres (private), see a GP and get the tests done.
It's still free, and the cost of GP is covered by Medicare.

And when I say GP, it does not have to be "your" GP, if you're worried about your wife hearing about it.
There's at least four medical centres within 4 block radius from Wynyard.

I know it may be a convenient location, but don't we travel for our punts to much more inconvenient locations than the other medical centres?
Yep, I know ! Although I have taken a few girls ( new arrivals to Sydney ) to the Sydney Hospital, I myself goes to my GP instead ! But that doesn't alter the fact that they do see casual member of the public. That said, I don't care if they don't, I was just quoting what bro Ukoyrnez said !

harmony

29-12-2013, 10:25 PM

We are all entitled to our opinions

I was having mine

I prefer NOT going to a medical centre and seeing a GP. I dont like my name and medicare card waved around, and my name on all the computer software

Walk in, sit down, and there is your name, address, phone number, medicare number etc etc all front and centre on the GPs computer software

The trend will be that these GP records can be or may be centralised, depending on the practice manager

The management of the GP practice you visit may have lots of branches in Sydney, and one day some bright IT manager may decide to centralise all records, so someone in Parramatta can read about your medical history in Wynyard

harmony

29-12-2013, 10:26 PM

Just to clarify, I have had a problem previously with work related medical records being widely accessible, and its not a nice feeling

CunningLinguist

29-12-2013, 11:31 PM

If you are from overseas and don't have a medicare card can you just go to a GP and pay for an STI test ?
Maybe they would ask to see your passport, so you couldn't do it anonymously.

wilisno

29-12-2013, 11:37 PM

If you are from overseas and don't have a medicare card can you just go to a GP and pay for an STI test ?
Maybe they would ask to see your passport, so you couldn't do it anonymously.
Or just tell them you're in the industry, you should be able to get served !

And it's not a fraud, because as a seasoned punter, you're in the industry anyway !

Licker

29-12-2013, 11:39 PM

Harmony,

Well, if anonymity is the key for you, then you could choose any of the other NSW Sexual Health clinics.

You can go to the one in the city for all I care. Just don't push it for other people as the preferred option, as it clearly is not the preferred option for NSW Health, who is providing this service for FREE.

Based on your posts you seem to be a bloke who is considerate of other people.
So I thought you might want to consider what would make life a bit easier for those people who offer you a service and don't even charge for it.
(ok, eventually it's us tax payers who are paying for it)
So is travel to say North Shore (20 minutes) too much of a trouble?

As for the GP's, there is this thing called doctor patient privilege, and quite frankly I think most of them will forget you the instant the next patient walks in.

Personally, I have never had any problems on seeing a GP for the tests. And he's always been happy to give me the results over the phone.
Now you do realize that they won't do that if the results are positive. Not even in the sexual health clinics.

It is just part of life, and an incremental part for that matter. Without sex none of us would be here.
Live a little, have a little trust. Who are you going to trust if not your GP?

wilisno

29-12-2013, 11:41 PM

Well, if anonymity is the key for you, then you could choose any of the other NSW Sexual Health clinics.

You can go to the one in the city for all I care. Just don't push it for other people as the preferred option, as it clearly is not the preferred option for NSW Health, who is providing this service for FREE.

Based on your posts you seem to be a bloke who is considerate of other people.
So I thought you might want to consider what would make life a bit easier for those people who offer you a service and don't even charge for it.
(ok, eventually it's us tax payers who are paying for it)
So is travel to say North Shore (20 minutes) too much of a trouble?

As for the GP's, there is this thing called doctor patient privilege, and quite frankly I think most of them will forget you the instant the next patient walks in.

Personally, I have never had any problems on seeing a GP for the tests. And he's always been happy to give me the results over the phone.
Now you do realize that they won't do that if the results are positive. Not even in the sexual health clinics.

It is just part of life, and an incremental part for that matter. Without sex none of us would be here.
Live a little, have a little trust. Who are you going to trust if not your GP?
Are you talking to me ?

I always said I go to my own GP !

Licker

29-12-2013, 11:49 PM

Are you talking to me ?

I always said I go to my own GP !

No mate, to Harmony.

You posted while I was writing (2 minutes between our posts). I modified my post after I saw the couple of posts between his and mine.

Licker

29-12-2013, 11:50 PM

But the following applies to you as well :)

Based on your posts you seem to be a bloke who is considerate of other people.

CunningLinguist

29-12-2013, 11:51 PM

HWho are you going to trust if not your GP?

Do you trust your GPs computer records won't get into the hands of your life insurance company ...

Licker

29-12-2013, 11:57 PM

Do you trust your GPs computer records won't get into the hands of your life insurance company ...

I'm pretty sure, and if they did I could sue the medical centre for the breach of confidence for far more than my life insurance is worth.

CunningLinguist

30-12-2013, 12:03 AM

I'm pretty sure, and if they did I could sue the medical centre for the breach of confidence for far more than my life insurance is worth.

I'm sure the Life insurance company would not divulge how they got the info. If they knew you were getting regular STI tests they might refuse to up your cover or refuse a renewal. It wouldn't suprise me if they had the power to do this somewhere in their fine print. If they found out you had HIV they would probably ask you to get a test for the next renewal as part of their "normal" procedure.

harmony

30-12-2013, 12:05 AM

Licker
"Well, if anonymity is the key for you, then you could choose any of the other NSW Sexual Health clinics"

This has been a busy thread, and I did register what you said about other NSW Sexual Health Clinics

Thank you. I didnt really understand that these other services existed, and I agree that any of the NSW Sexual Health Clinics will use the anonymous method that I described

I will take your advice and use the one in my local area - I think your recommendation is a very good one

The fact we are discussing all the options is a great thing

For me, and Im sorry to repeat myself, just as I hate leaving a paper trail when I see working ladies, I hate going to a GP, any GP, with my sexual problems
I just have no faith that the medical records wont be accessed by non doctors

I have had a problem with medical records before, but thats a private and personal story, which I wont divulge

Licker

30-12-2013, 12:14 AM

The fact we are discussing all the options is a great thing

Well, that's what this forum is all about.

And it's not limited to punting advice only :)

wilisno

30-12-2013, 12:20 AM

But the following applies to you as well :)
Haha ! I'll marry you if you're a girl ! ;) ;) ;)

wilisno

30-12-2013, 12:23 AM

I'm sure the Life insurance company would not divulge how they got the info. If they knew you were getting regular STI tests they might refuse to up your cover or refuse a renewal. It wouldn't suprise me if they had the power to do this somewhere in their fine print. If they found out you had HIV they would probably ask you to get a test for the next renewal as part of their "normal" procedure.
I don't think punting is a high risk category in an insurance policy yet !

Licker

30-12-2013, 12:28 AM

If they found out you had HIV they would probably ask you to get a test for the next renewal as part of their "normal" procedure.

I'm sure that I would be more devastated of finding that I have HIV, than not having a life insurance because of it.

Regardless where the tests are done and whether they are done anonymously or not, I don't think you can get anonymous treatment for it, if you happened to be unfortunate enough to test positive.

deathstalker

30-12-2013, 03:26 AM

Licker

30-12-2013, 07:09 PM

Yes? I am worried about contracting these stii

and reading the last few pages it has turn out to be a debate on seeing your local Gp..Gp Hospital medical services then blah blah blah to privacy rather than...protecting from sti's what the fuck is going on here?

Two simple answers mate. And you (and everyone else) should know these already, unless you were born and raised in a bottle.

1.
Condoms are proven to protect you from STI's at about 95% effectiveness.
The only 100% sure protection is a glass of water. Not before or after, but instead!

Every time you have an unprotected sexual contact, you have a risk of getting an STI. Some practices a riskier than others.

2.
So if you participate in such activities (whether with WL's, Girlfriends or one night stands), you have that risk.

Thus the discussion on where to get tested, as if you do catch something, I hope you don't want to continue spreading it around.

Jbiscuit

31-12-2013, 05:18 PM

Licker
This has been a busy thread, and I did register what you said about other NSW Sexual Health Clinics

Thank you. I didnt really understand that these other services existed, and I agree that any of the NSW Sexual Health Clinics will use the anonymous method that I described

The NSW Sexual Health Clinics are so freaking anonymous. When you arrive, they assign you an anonymous code to which you will be referred. You couldn't tell them your name if you tried.

That being said, I went there for what I thought were STI symptoms and it turned out to be nothing. The doctor was pissed at me wasting her time.

Sextus

01-01-2014, 02:29 AM

The doctor was pissed at me wasting her time.

I hope that isn't true. Do they expect us to be the experts and self-diagnose instead of risking "wasting their time?"

syphon

01-01-2014, 10:45 AM

I hope that isn't true. Do they expect us to be the experts and self-diagnose instead of risking "wasting their time?"
I agree! Hopefully we would all be "wasting her time" !!

harmony

06-01-2014, 10:25 AM

Hi guys

The NSW government clearly states, on its NSW Sexual Health website:
"Publicly funded sexual health services are available accross NSW and provide a range of medical, counselling and health promotion services to those most at risk of HIV/AIDS and sexually transmissable infections"

First go to this website, instead of just relying on Google for your sexual health problems
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/related-health-issues.aspx

For your information, a related NSW Health site, with a infoline number, is

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/nsw-sexual-health-infoline.aspx

Calling a nurse (9am - 530pm) is totally acceptable, and this is a confidential NSW Government service

And talking to someone anonymously may be preferable if you have specific symptoms, such as painful urination, or an ulcer that isnt healing, and want confidential but targetted information
Calling someone may also help if you want to know if the GP or NSW Sexual Health clinics are best for your problem

I actually contacted one of the clinics of the NSW Governments "NSW Sexual health Clinics"

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/sexual-health-clinics.aspx

The nurse may well be asking you for symptoms, as they are a busy service

I told her I was seeing working ladies, and receiving unprotected oral sex, and that I was concerned.
I also am considering a relationship in my private life, and I want to keep her safe from harm

The nurse at the clinic I rang was very helpful, and due to my description she gave me a booking for three days time

I rang today, Monday, and the appointment is late Wednesday

She told me not to urinate for 30-40 minutes before the consultation in case they needed further tests (urine testing)

As various other forum members stated, your GP may be equally placed to do the testing

See ! I am getting checked out.

It is soooo easy. It is soooo good for your peace of mind

Particularly for those of you who have multiple partners +/- are in a relationship also

Please do it too : )

Let me know how you find the whole process of seeking information

harmony

06-01-2014, 10:36 AM

Check out all the NSW Sexual Health Clinic locations:

Sydney
Sydney Sexual Health Centre
Sydney Hospital
(02) 9382 7440
website www.sshc.org.au (http://www.sshc.org.au/)

Surry Hills
414 Elizabeth St, Surry Hills.The Albion Centre
150-154 Albion Street, Surry Hills 2010

(02) 9332 9600

website: www.thealbioncentre.org.au/ (http://thealbioncentre.org.au/)
Darlinghurst, St Vincent's Hospital
Telephone (02) 8382 3707

Kings Cross,Kirketon Road Centre
Above the Darlinghurst Fire Station
Victoria Street (entrance)
(02) 9360 2766

Camperdown,RPA Sexual Health Clinic
16 Marsden Street,Camperdown NSW 2050

(02) 9515 1200

St Leonards,Clinic 16
Royal North Shore Community Health Centre
Ph: (02) 9462 9500

Kogarah, Short Street Centre
Sexual Health Clinic, St George Hospital
(02) 9113 2742
Parramatta Sexual Health Clinic

162 Marsden Street

(02) 9843 3124

There are a lot of NSW Regional Centre clinics also, check the webpage:
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/sexualhealth/Pages/sexual-health-clinics.aspx

waynekerr

10-01-2014, 03:44 PM

The nurse at the clinic I rang was very helpful, and due to my description she gave me a booking for three days time

I rang today, Monday, and the appointment is late Wednesday

Hey Harmony, how did you fare at the clinic?

Not any confidential details of course, but would you walk us through the procedure for the benefit of
us less experienced brothers. Being Public Health I imagine you were there for a fair while and had a few
hoops to jump through.

WayneK.

harmony

10-01-2014, 03:46 PM

Hey WayneK
Thanks for asking, valued friend

Many friends on here, naming them would take a while, contribute vast amounts of wonderful information
Including you WayneK : )

Other members on here read everything, post nothing
These members then have the cheek to say my contributions are all talk
On average I read one thread, and reply to one thread in any given day

Sorry for the rant, it was just to say I went to the Clinic as promised
Not just promised
I paid a visit to the Clinic as I said I would, and boy was it an eyeopener
Do it too !!!!

I will do a big write up next week
Its an important thread, and will put it up in peak period
When is peak period on here lol

CunningLinguist

10-01-2014, 03:49 PM

from 5:30pm

waynekerr

10-01-2014, 03:52 PM

Hey Waynekerr
Thanks for asking, valued friend

Some members on here read everything, post nothing
These members then have the cheek to say my contributions are all talk
On average I read one thread, and reply to one thread in any given day

Sorry for the rant, it was just to say I went as promised
I paid a visit to the Clinic as I said I would, and boy was it an eyeopener

I will do a big write up next week
Its an important thread, and will put it up in peak period
When is peak period on here lol

I wait with bated breath.

WayneK.

harmony

10-01-2014, 04:09 PM

You're a good man WayneK
It will be good

markrmau2

10-01-2014, 09:24 PM

Perhaps we should start a clinic AR thread (lol, just kidding - am interested to know as well).

I went to a clinic but it was almost 20yrs ago now so it is probably different these days. Long time ago, but I do remember the nurse inviting another nurse in for a second opinion. They both fiddled around with my member for a while inspecting the damage :cool2:.

With the wonders of the modern day internet, i can say exactly what I have - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirsuties_coronae_glandis

but these 2 girls had never seen it before despite it being relatively common (25% of guys).

Anyway, the requirement for the girls to milk the penis was fun.

harmony

10-01-2014, 09:26 PM

markrmau

I will complete my report probably Sunday

It will only contain medical facts, not opinion, by someone who actually got tested. Me. This week.

I can assure you it will be a very important read

Lets just say the information I learned was extremely eyeopening

Sorry, just have a work related document to complete today/tomorrow

Max Impact

10-01-2014, 10:26 PM

On average I read one thread, and reply to one thread in any given day

Hi Harmony, I'm not trying to be on your case but...... Since 19th November (54 days) you have posted 590 times. I'm slow at maths but that seems like more than once a day. If there was new information in the majority of posts I don't believe that you would get the criticism that you do for some forum members.

harmony

10-01-2014, 10:30 PM

I will present new information. My reputation depends on it

I PM a lot of my colleagues here all the new information that I have

I dont have the funds or the experience of others on here, so for that a new member should be cut some slack

For the record, I do remember PMing you and I gave new information, not just asked for it

One of my other brothers on here, who registered at around the same time, only posted his first AR this week

Licker

10-01-2014, 10:33 PM

I'm waiting for the eyeopening report!

The following bit I don't really get though :)

On average I read one thread, and reply to one thread in any given day

wilisno

10-01-2014, 10:37 PM

I'm waiting for the eyeopening report!

The following bit I don't really get though :)

Every few minutes is a brand new day ! :miao:

D-93

11-01-2014, 12:13 PM

In a few days I plan on going to get my first STI test and I was thinking of going to Satellite Sexual Health Youth Clinic since it's easy for me to get to, free and no appointment is needed. Is the general procedure just walk in, ask for an STI test, wait your turn, do the tests, and then wait for the results to come in? Is there anything else I need to know about?

Starstruck

11-01-2014, 12:18 PM

D-93

11-01-2014, 12:22 PM

The site doesn't specify what is free but I'm certain that the check-up is free. Not really sure about the treatment.

Starstruck

11-01-2014, 12:27 PM

Just checked out the site, I think the procedure should be like you specified. Since it's for citizens/PRs I assume you also need to bring the relevant ID

D-93

11-01-2014, 12:33 PM

I think ID would be necessary to prove that you're 24 and under which is the age you need to be to go there. Medicare is not necessary according to the WAYS site but I'll bring it anyway just in case.

Starstruck

11-01-2014, 01:56 PM

You mean they won't test you if you are over 24?

I think that place is for youths 24 and under only

rushmore

11-01-2014, 08:19 PM

theres a lot of discussion in this thread about std tests at health clinics and yes I agree this is something that should be done on a regular basis by all punters. I do believe this is only half of the solution though because as im sure you know many stds (such as herpes, genital warts and hiv) cannot easily be cured. in my opinion the most important precaution one can take is yielding to the shield in all instances and avoiding establishments which are known to engage in unsafe sex practices

checksix

11-01-2014, 09:08 PM

Kromm

12-01-2014, 04:23 PM

There is risk element involved in almost everythong.

You just got to decide how much you re willing to take.

CunningLinguist

15-01-2014, 12:06 AM

I paid a visit to the Clinic as I said I would, and boy was it an eyeopener
Do it too !!!!

I will do a big write up next week
Its an important thread, and will put it up in peak period
When is peak period on here lol

How did it go ?

D-93

15-01-2014, 12:21 AM

I went to the clinic a couple for days ago for the STI test and when I told the doctor my sexual history she told me that it is unlikely that I have anything and that it's probably because I feel anxious about it but still tested me anyway. My results will come in about a week. It's slightly reassuring that the doctor doesn't believe I have anything but there is still the risk. If it comes out positive then that would really make me regret not testing myself for an STI rather than just HIV, which was negative, before going to a massage shop for the first time as then I would be able to tell whether I got infected by someone or already had it to begin with. I'm more worried about the people I've been with since if they got infected they might not even know which could also mean that it could have spread to countless other people.

D-93

17-01-2014, 10:37 AM

I got the results today and they came out negative.

CunningLinguist

17-01-2014, 12:23 PM

I got the results today and they came out negative.

Thats positive!

Sextus

17-01-2014, 03:34 PM

I've been considering going to a WL for a long time, and I guess this issue has been in the back of my mind. There's no way I could risk getting an STI and then transferring it to my fiance.

The problem is that I would never cheat on my girl, but she has such a low libido... we're only having sex once a year or so. As a 30 year old guy, it's getting to be more (or less) than I can handle.

jbiscuit, rarely has an avatar suited a post so well.

But look mate, on the above information, you're laughing.

Once a year sex from your fiance? Pre-plan it with her then, for, say, September 2014.

That gives you a solid 6 months worth of punting, and leaves plenty of time over for you to get a check up (and possibly) treatment before your sex appointment with her this coming September!

Oneonone

17-01-2014, 03:42 PM

sydney hospital at macquarie street has a sexual centre.
ppl there are very professional. you can just walk in request a full sti test.
THEY DON'T F***ING JUDGE U LIKE LOW ACHEIVING GP.
rofl. been to both for tests, sydney hospital a better experience if u are shy.

They wont do test for you unless you are a sex worker these days they used to but last time I went they told me to bugger off and go to a gp.

harmony

17-01-2014, 06:16 PM

Gosh so much conflicting information on this thread
AUS99 members, my brothers, deserve better

I have been to the Sexual health clinic in my area, in the last 7 days, and I'm definitely not a sex worker, and definitely not gay

Have been to the same clinic for all my sexual health checks over a long period

For all of you who have received unprotected BBBJ, particularly from a high volume brothel, you must get tested this month

Ignore those who have opinions but haven't gone

The official Harmony thread will be up later today in two parts

Its in your interests and in the interests of the sex industry that you get tested. This month.

My friend got tested with me, and is a nurse

So from me you will get no opinions. Just facts

Watch this space. Tonight. Please.

Max Impact

17-01-2014, 06:50 PM

avancele

02-03-2014, 04:52 PM

everything has its risk
but it does not mean you don't do it
personal choice
not like they are holding a gun to your head

Oneonone

02-03-2014, 05:22 PM

Oneonone is saying that the clinic AT SYDNEY HOSPITAL is too busy to see anyone that is not a sex worker ( or gay or showing symptoms). That's my experience too.

But others report they have been able to see a doctor there.

Its not that they are too busy its more that because its free they don't want to spend any money they are not interested in sexual health or safety its all about money!

babypudge

03-03-2014, 10:26 AM

only cbj for me - everything wrapped.

disease free xD

Oneonone

03-03-2014, 05:52 PM

Well I have to admit I love bbbj and daty so the risks for me are somewhat higher but so far so good.

I think the risk is even higher with anal and bare back so I do not partake in these activities, and with daty I always make sure the girl looks like she had good hygene.

I love to see a girl use listerene and I always use it myself.

cipher

12-03-2014, 11:25 AM

just saw this thread... did not know there is anonymous STi test..
booked my GP last week, waiting for result now.
I asked my GP if it is confidential, he said the record can be seen all other GP through system. :sweat: and it is confidential unless I bring other people (like gf, wife) into GP's office, and when GP open their system, check back my history, other people has right to know because you bring them in.
So I think i should not bring any other people to see my GP anymore...I must see my GP just myself.....:cry:

waynekerr

12-03-2014, 12:34 PM

cipher

12-03-2014, 01:11 PM

Bro cipher, good on you for getting the test - very responsible.

You've confused me a little "I asked my GP if it is confidential, he said the record can be seen all other GP through system."
Do you think he meant in that particular Medical Centre or any GP across the state?

Could be a worry.

WayneK.

he said any GP can get this log through the system.
I think it means any GP who using this system (not sure is there any other systems)

I think actually it's ok, I will tell my future wife/gf, just make sure I am ok, i think this reason is ok.

Rpd

13-03-2014, 07:22 AM

he said any GP can get this log through the system.
I think it means any GP who using this system (not sure is there any other systems)

I think actually it's ok, I will tell my future wife/gf, just make sure I am ok, i think this reason is ok.

I believe Australia has a network shared medical database, or are in the process of rolling one out. I recall signing up for it years ago, but have put it in the back of my mind since.

It is opt-in anyway, and you don't have to share anything if you don't want to, although there are obvious benefits to a doctor having instant access to your records (i.e. if you're in an accident in another state and may have severe allergic reactions to a particular medication).

Oneonone

13-03-2014, 11:47 AM

Yes I think the days are long gone when you could go to a different doctor if you wanted something like a sex health check but didn't want to tell your own gp your visit a brothel, now days your gp can look it up I feel sure.

A few years back I went to a different dr to my usual gp next time I saw my gp I got asked a couple of questions I thought does my gp know I visited another dr seems like it and if so probably knows what for.

syphon

13-03-2014, 04:58 PM

waynekerr

13-03-2014, 05:42 PM

Farrk... This is news to me! I live in a country town and know my GP socially!! For checkups I just go to a medical centre in Sydney and hand over the Medicare card. Never thought for a moment that this might happen.

Farrk... is right.

This is exactly the same situation as mine, I even get my prescription for Cialis from a Bulk Billing Medical Centre in Sydney.

WayneK.

syphon

13-03-2014, 06:21 PM

CunningLinguist

13-03-2014, 06:22 PM

Farrk... is right.

Farrk is right is faarrken right!
I am suprised by this.

Rpd

13-03-2014, 07:00 PM

http://www.ehealth.gov.au/internet/ehealth/publishing.nsf/content/home

From their main page:

Your eHealth record allows you and your doctors, hospitals and other healthcare providers to view and share your health information to provide you with the best possible care.

wilisno

13-03-2014, 08:16 PM

Who else has computer access to your information? My GP's staff such as the receptionist who is a friend of my wife? I am actually not worried by this because I cannot believe it is possible! Surely this would be a breach of privacy and flies in the face of the old notion of doctor/patient confidentially!
If we have any GP's on the forum (I'm sure we do) maybe they can clarify this. Pm me if you prefer.
If the GP's staff is a friend of your wife, you shouldn't go there for the test anyway ! She doesn't have to see the test result, just seeing the sample you summit to the pathologist is enough to raise questions !

scrawley

13-03-2014, 08:30 PM

Theres a lot of misinformation in this thread! Patient records cant be shared between health providers without the written consent of the patient. There are electronic health records which can be shared between different healthcare providers, but a person must opt-into this scheme. So far very few people have done so.

Rpd

13-03-2014, 08:53 PM

syphon

14-03-2014, 10:31 AM

If the GP's staff is a friend of your wife, you shouldn't go there for the test anyway ! She doesn't have to see the test result, just seeing the sample you summit to the pathologist is enough to raise questions !

Wilisno, I would never go to my GP for a test. I go to a medical centre and just see whoever is available. My concern is with the sharing of information.
Glad to hear I need not worry because I certainly have not opted into any information sharing arrangement! Phew