Catherine - nice girl, but....

[toomuch]

Just out from seeing Catherine, and not a girl I'll go back and see nor recommend.

She definitely cut the time short (had booked an hour and was back on the street 45 minutes after entering the building - including time in the waiting room), which is annoying.

Potentially a good BJ, but she just kept fussing, adjusting and talking. Catherine is an interesting girl, but her desire and determination to make a connection with every punter, in my case backfired.
I just wanted a good BJ.

I'd say she is much more GFE than PSE (given all the talking, massage, etc etc) and that the problems in our session are as much my fault as much as hers, but this one just didn't go anywhere.

Cheers,

toomuch

[Massageguy]

Sorry you had a bad experience with Catherine Toomuch,

I've seen her many times and never been cut short, usually quite the opposite where
We are getting caught going a bit late.

I find her fascinating and worked out very quickly what gets her off.
Once you get her going , the chatter stops and the pleasure starts.
Believe me when she relaxes with you and you can get her worked up, she goes off like a fire cracker and everything else pales into insignificance.

You definitely need to see her more than once to really appreciate her, but I can definitely understand if you wish to just leave it at one visit and chalk it up as an experience .

[drifter]

Many positive reviews on Catherine. Sorry to hear about your experience. Maybe she
bad session with her previous client.

[sinver]

Toomuch bro, am sorry to hear about your time issue, in all my past experience with Catherine I was never rushed at all, and am too, often guilty of finishing late that I sometimes fear Wilson might ban me for taking all the time in the world with the ladies
All my sessions (even the very first one) with Catherine were lengthy and a bit tipping over the hour dot, in my very first session the buzzer buzzed but she made sure I came before letting me hop into the shower

Also if the total time inclusive of waiting was 45 minutes, why didn't you raise it with Wilson at the counter? You would have every reason to, and I'm sure they would have wondered if something is wrong, given the customer-orientated attitude that Ginza is famous for

Isn't the phrase 'not recommending' her a tad too harsh, based on how you did mention she tries to please you too and tries to provide a GFE
I once had a session elsewhere, where the lady just sat down and chatter for 30 minutes straight out of 1 hour, without any intention of moving to the bed (nor at least getting me comfortable)- THAT is what I would say 'not recommended'
Sometimes it might help a little to show these ladies some respect, they are not machines after all and have moods and preferences
In ladies like Catherine, her best work comes after building a rapport / getting comfortable around you....and the places she can take you after that, I'm sure her regulars would agree too, that you definitely wouldn't regret it

[Massageguy]

Thanks Sinver, similar to what I was saying!!!!

[Gucci2012]

Wow that's a shame I also have had great sessions with her. Did you say anything to Yuki or Wilson on your way out?

[harmony]

Thank you for your review

I give this lady the benefit of the doubt for now

I do value the fact she is making a great effort at ensuring chemistry, and thats how I read your review

There is a vast difference between establishing chemistry, and impersonal timewasting

But for me, I prefer talking after the event, not before it

The talk I want before reaching heaven is not chit chat, its "do me now" ; )

[slowmotion]

I agree with Sinver. Catherine is a great lady and once you ease her into a relaxing or romantic mood, she will do wonders. However, she is not everyone cup of tea. For me, she is my goddess.

[rooter]

That's a shame it didn't go well.
Catherine puts a lot of effort into making a session special and making you feel good, but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen.
I guess it's just one of those things - you just didn't click.
It happens.

[GINZA]

She definitely cut the time short (had booked an hour and was back on the street 45 minutes after entering the building - including time in the waiting room), which is annoying.




Catherine NEVER cut anyone's time, 99% of her clients always overtime. her clients usually leave her room after I call her 3-4 times.

I just checked the camera,
You enter her room at 3:26pm and walked pass the reception at 4:17pm, Totally stayed 51mins in her room, Not include your waiting time at all.
Definitely Not 45mins included waiting time.

[harmony]

For what time start was the booking made toomuch ?

[GINZA]

Some clients leave early, some overtime.

From the First day Ginza open until today, No girls has ever cut clients time.

[harmony]

Thanks for your feedback Ginza
Am looking forward to my first visit

[IExperiment]

Just out from seeing Catherine, and not a girl I'll go back and see nor recommend.

She definitely cut the time short (had booked an hour and was back on the street 45 minutes after entering the building - including time in the waiting room), which is annoying.

Potentially a good BJ, but she just kept fussing, adjusting and talking. Catherine is an interesting girl, but her desire and determination to make a connection with every punter, in my case backfired.
I just wanted a good BJ.

I'd say she is much more GFE than PSE (given all the talking, massage, etc etc) and that the problems in our session are as much my fault as much as hers, but this one just didn't go anywhere.

Cheers,

toomuch

I saw Catherine Last week

Pity your connection did not work out as I did made a connection with her and the first girl that I actually stay the full seesion ...lol... really maybe we just click :)

I mean I saw Angelina the next day and we click full on DFK too wether she is on top or me on top but I did not stay the full session just a little bit less with her :)

I also ask her the song that I like but unfortunately I already forget damn I relaly like the song she was playing while we were doing the deeds :)

Something about a Blow Job song if someone know the song please tell me it was so sexy.

[rooter]

I saw Catherine Last week

Pity your connection did not work out as I did made a connection with her and the first girl that I actually stay the full seesion ...lol... really maybe we just click :)

I mean I saw Angelina the next day and we click full on DFK too wether she is on top or me on top but I did not stay the full session just a little bit less with her :)

I also ask her the song that I like but unfortunately I already forget damn I relaly like the song she was playing while we were doing the deeds :)

Something about a Blow Jow song if someone know the song please tell me it was so sexy.

HaHa! Catherine and Angelina in the same week. You lucky devil!

[IExperiment]

HaHa! Catherine and Angelina in the same week. You lucky devil!


Cant beat Max though he have more time to burn as he have others to flip his burgers ....lol.....

Two days in a row for Ginza.

Was thinking seeing more but I have other private one to see the next day, so maybe next time.

[sinver]

Some clients leave early, some overtime.

From the First day Ginza open until today, No girls has ever cut clients time.

felt like adding on to the comment I had previously about how Ginza is very customer-orientated ...

a little boring background story :
I saw Catherine after toomuch, she was obviously very upset with the bad comment after trying so hard to please a customer
Yuki (? never asked her name but I assumed thats her) had informed me what happened and even though Catherine greeted me with a smile and tried to pretend nothing happened, I sat her down for a little talk, like any punters would do when their favorite goddess are upset

Catherine keeps trying to stop me and in as much of her words as possible : 'you should not have to suffer because of my emotions and your here to enjoy your time, not show care...you shouldn't do that, go into the shower I am ok' ... but hey, she looks too adorable and irresistible with beads of tears rolling down her big beautiful eyes (No, am not a sadist!)

Seriously, to me, this shows the great attitude she has for every client
To prevent this going into a full on review, will just leave it at that; after the shower we had one of my most 'mind & cock-blowing' sessions, including alot more which I didnt ask for!

After I left I even got a text from Wilson that he will give me extra time for next session for 'comforting Catherine' - she must have told him about it

Look at the ladies lined up in Ginza, it is already top value for $, and they all give great service with many AR to back it up
Top it up with these fantastic customer support/care/(whatever to name this) that Wilson and Yuki always gives - is there a need to wonder why punters regular Ginza so?

[toomuch]

I understand that being critical of a much loved girl and shop opens the poster up to criticism as well, so I do want to address a few of the issues raised after my review.

However, thanks to all for the replies.

I should also point out, that I am a fan of Ginza, and think they run a good shop, but the review was my experience, and my understanding is that's what this board is all about?

Time:
Whilst I don't agree with Ginza's assessment of the time, the difference we are talking about is 6 minutes. I contend that my time in the room was approx 45 minutes, Ginza says 51. Either way, neither figure is an hour.

There is a very good argument that those final minutes are the important ones. The difference between satisfaction and dissatisfaction.

Again, just for the record, I normally leave early from sessions, and only book an hour so I have plenty of time to relax, to give the girl some time to acclimatise to me, and to avoid me having to look at the clock. Thinking about time is hardly conducive to pleasure.

Did I speak to Wilson?
Yes, but briefly, he was talking with someone else, so I hardly hung around to make my case. He was aware however that I wasn't happy. I did also mention the time problem, but to be fair, I was heading out the door, and with the tradesmen working in the courtyard, that may have been lost.

I am sorry that Catherine was upset, I do know she tried with me, but I also tried with her.

Was I disrespectful to Catherine?
I would be very surprised (and disappointed in myself) if Catherine said I was disrespectful, unclean, pushy or any of the other traits that go to make up a bad punter.

I'm not a professional punter like some here - I'm a hobbyist, a man who loves his wife, but likes some strange every now and then.

I have no doubt that Catherine is very good once you establish a relationship with her. That however, isn't the sort of girl I was or am looking for, and why I say she is GFE not PSE experience as posted here.

I just think we had very different views of how our time should be spent. She wanted to talk, massage me, and get to know me, I just wanted to have fun. In the end, neither of us were satisfied.

And again, for the record, I'm not against Ginza or Catherine.

Catherine would really suit some people, (and if you are prepared to spend the time, I imagine her BJ could be great) I can see that, but my review is aimed more at those others out there, like me, who don't always spend $240 per hour, and when we do, want to be able to have fun, without too many complications

Cheers,

toomuch

[numberonebigsize]

"the review was about my experience"... well said toomuch. Its time the ''famous few'' on this forum realised that fact and left ordinary members (punters) alone. At least his review seemed realistic which is vastly different from a lot of the fairytale shit we see on here

[Massageguy]

I think most of the responses to your AR Toomuch were sympathetic to your
Concerns, and as with my response, I was simply saying I understand your concern
And was sorry you had a bad punt.

I was simply saying it was a very different experience to what I had.
I too have had experiences that don't match up to other reports on this forum.

After all this is a forum where us Punters can compare and discuss our experiences
With each other, then we can form our own opinion as to wether or not we spend
Our hard earnings on a particular girl. Even with all the info on here, there are
No guaranties as to the both of you clicking.

Once again. (THAT'S PUNTING )

[IExperiment]

I understand that being critical of a much loved girl and shop opens the poster up to criticism as well, so I do want to address a few of the issues raised after my review.

However, thanks to all for the replies.

I should also point out, that I am a fan of Ginza, and think they run a good shop, but the review was my experience, and my understanding is that's what this board is all about?

Time:
Whilst I don't agree with Ginza's assessment of the time, the difference we are talking about is 6 minutes. I contend that my time in the room was approx 45 minutes, Ginza says 51. Either way, neither figure is an hour.

There is a very good argument that those final minutes are the important ones. The difference between satisfaction and dissatisfaction.

Again, just for the record, I normally leave early from sessions, and only book an hour so I have plenty of time to relax, to give the girl some time to acclimatise to me, and to avoid me having to look at the clock. Thinking about time is hardly conducive to pleasure.

Did I speak to Wilson?
Yes, but briefly, he was talking with someone else, so I hardly hung around to make my case. He was aware however that I wasn't happy. I did also mention the time problem, but to be fair, I was heading out the door, and with the tradesmen working in the courtyard, that may have been lost.

I am sorry that Catherine was upset, I do know she tried with me, but I also tried with her.

Was I disrespectful to Catherine?
I would be very surprised (and disappointed in myself) if Catherine said I was disrespectful, unclean, pushy or any of the other traits that go to make up a bad punter.

I'm not a professional punter like some here - I'm a hobbyist, a man who loves his wife, but likes some strange every now and then.

I have no doubt that Catherine is very good once you establish a relationship with her. That however, isn't the sort of girl I was or am looking for, and why I say she is GFE not PSE experience as posted here.

I just think we had very different views of how our time should be spent. She wanted to talk, massage me, and get to know me, I just wanted to have fun. In the end, neither of us were satisfied.

And again, for the record, I'm not against Ginza or Catherine.

Catherine would really suit some people, (and if you are prepared to spend the time, I imagine her BJ could be great) I can see that, but my review is aimed more at those others out there, like me, who don't always spend $240 per hour, and when we do, want to be able to have fun, without too many complications

Cheers,

toomuch

Catherine try very hard to connect with me which we did after I told her dont worry I am fine as she was a bit nervous, must be me new custumer.
I told her exactly that the session and the vibe I got was going to be a great session, as she seem trying to please which was great at least she care.

I can also see where your coming from as your not the first to mention similar session session.

I like the room though Thumbs up to Ginza Room.

[waynekerr]

I've been to Ginza only once so far, I arrived about five minutes early for my one hour appointment,
The girl was waiting for me and we went up to the room straight away, I was there for the full hour
or perhaps a little more, no hurry up, no pressure, just great service.

I spoke to Wilson briefly after the session, he seems to be a most helpful and efficient type of guy.

Seems to me they don't need to bump threads here to get our attention, they just do it right in the first place and
word of mouth does the rest. Good business model.

These days I'm really more a laid back massage++ sort of person, but will I return to Ginza? Yes I will, again and again and...

Regards, WayneK.

[sinver]

"the review was about my experience"... well said toomuch. Its time the ''famous few'' on this forum realised that fact and left ordinary members (punters) alone. At least his review seemed realistic which is vastly different from a lot of the fairytale shit we see on here

For the record I believe that everyone were not trying to condemn toomuch, just all expressing their opinions of their own session with Catherine, as well as condolences that the much touted magic didn't happen with toomuch

perhaps I went the "worse" by asking to show respect for the lady which I apologise for getting a wrong meaning across, but I was merely stating the fact that in the review, the first two sentence and content contradict each other because the review DID mention quite a lot of good things, so "not recommend her" is a far fetch because hey, if we don't click with the lady, has that got anything to do with her performance or something, especially if she did try? or perhaps it's the different way I infer those words, then sorry in that case

also another thing I would like to point out is that yes it's a simple review with opinion, but there's some very important details :

45 mins inclusive of waiting time in waiting room (which in my experience could well be 15 in the wait, and IF applied here, just 30minutes out of 1 hour in the girls room, in which case would be a total cheating of 1/2 the booked time)
and 51 minutes in the lady's room is a huge difference

it is not trying to maintain fairy tale stuff, just trying to get facts right because as much as it is opinion , some details do matter - if I have never been with Catherine and I read this part about the time (45 inclusive of waiting, and if it's true), I will definitely avoid her & possibly Ginza too at all cost. Really.

Cheers

[black knight]

I saw Catherine Last week

Pity your connection did not work out as I did made a connection with her and the first girl that I actually stay the full seesion ...lol... really maybe we just click :)

I mean I saw Angelina the next day and we click full on DFK too wether she is on top or me on top but I did not stay the full session just a little bit less with her :)

I also ask her the song that I like but unfortunately I already forget damn I relaly like the song she was playing while we were doing the deeds :)

Something about a Blow Job song if someone know the song please tell me it was so sexy.

The song could have been from Sade.

She has a certain style, some people instantly click with her others take longer.
One thing for certain, she really tried her best with my first session with her.
She really likes being the showman, her love of Hawaii, and Sade playing in the background enhanced the session with me.

[harmony]

Im new on here, and still learning the ropes

Ginza sounds great - it has a great website, it makes great efforts for its customers, I havent been there, and I really want to

We should be happy we have such a place in Sydney, it is definitely on my to do list !

But can I say, the most important detail still missing despite all the posts, is my original question, and one more related question:

*What time was your booking for ?

*How did the session end ?
Was it due to a bell/door knock, or the working girl finishing up early ---- Ginza ending session early
or Was it due to the punter toomuch finishing up early ---- punter ending session early

I dont know how experienced punters comment on this case without knowing this basic information

Im new, so its the questions new members want to know

[IExperiment]

The song could have been from Sade.

She has a certain style, some people instantly click with her others take longer.
One thing for certain, she really tried her best with my first session with her.
She really likes being the showman, her love of Hawaii, and Sade playing in the background enhanced the session with me.

Not Sade we all know Sade and yes I did hear it as well, but cant get that song out of my mind it was to damn sexy I got her to play it a few time and she even tease me saying she wont tell me the name of the song and see her next time and she will mention the name of the song :) chicky girl but before I leave she told me the name of the song anyway, but typical me of course I wont remember ...lol...
Its about servicing a guy getting a Blow Job great sensual song, she told me she found the cd in a chinese shop ...lol....