Stalkers - The Enemy of Punting

[fli]

This week I found out one of my favourite girls from a shop I visited this year has quit the shop and seemingly the industry. It seems some guy followed her home and then also found out where she studies - very creepy behaviour!

She found him waiting for outside her place a number of times after that.

I don't have a clue what he was thinking - I got a text message from the girl to say why I couldn't see her.

I'm sure 90-99% of punters find this stalking totally unacceptable. But how to stop it?

I don't think there is any simple way but we can do some things.

Shop owners: please remind the girls never to give hints about where they live or their outside life. If you find someone is a stalker, ban him and also advise others to watch out for this character. He is bad for your industry!

Punters: When a girl tells you something that potentially identifies her, give her warning to be careful and never share this information.

I am sorry I can't see this girl again but I am much more sorry about the fact that she should feel frightened because some loser decides that he can push into her other life.

[harmony]

fli, again a great, original thread ! Thank you

What an awful situation

One thing that has become evident is that some small proportion of men have a sickness, and were never taught to respect a lady. In fact, they are the opposite, some men see violence or harrassing against women as a turn on
Other men just have never had any strong female figures in their lives, and take women for granted as inferior, and as sex objects

You are so right to emphasize that safety is soo important, and I would do anything and everything in my power to ensure women are kept safe

Its no point hoping punters will change, but I do hope all managers remind their ladies to return to their homes ideally without everyone knowing where they live

Lets all hope and pray that every lovely lady who give us their time and their service, do stay safe, and that these lovely women are reminded to be safe in their actions every day

[harmony]

One thing that enlightened punters like us all on here CAN do, is shower our ladies with pampering and ultimate respect

If the majority of regulars treat their women and their managers very well, then the scum men that are violent and disrespectful, "stick out like a sore thumb" and are eliminated from visiting

Of course, we cant stop the emotionally unstable stalker this way, that is a separate issue

Stalking is a sickness, and is a criminal offence

[syphon]

fli, again a great, original thread ! Thank you

What an awful situation

One thing that has become evident is that some small proportion of men have a sickness, and were never taught to respect a lady. In fact, they are the opposite, some men see violence or harrassing against women as a turn on
Other men just have never had any strong female figures in their lives, and take women for granted as inferior, and as sex objects

You are so right to emphasize that safety is soo important, and I would do anything and everything in my power to ensure women are kept safe

Its no point hoping punters will change, but I do hope all managers remind their ladies to return to their homes ideally without everyone knowing where they live

Lets all hope and pray that every lovely lady who give us their time and their service, do stay safe, and that these lovely women are reminded to be safe in their actions every day
Well said Harmony. Obviously there are some creeps out there and this industry is going to have more than its fair share!

[zibab]

Wow, you have to wonder how he thinks that will work out well, although logic is clearly not a strength.

[Guymartin420]

I know a girl who had the same experience from her customer.

As was mentioned above, let's treat them with live and respect. That's all we can do.

[Mr Crash and Burn]

Agree with all of the above, but also punters remember, it can happen the other way, so if your punting in secret, then divulge as few details of yourself as possible

[Oneonone]

Stalkers are not welcome in punting the ladies deserve their privacy.

[harmony]

Is there some way to remind the women we pay to see to remember to protect their security

Probably naive I know

But its a hazard of the occupation, some mentally unhinged people see working ladies as vulnerable and a fair target
Its been like this throughout history.
Revenge finally comes if/when they are locked away and their identities revealed to the media

[vvillie]

Stalkers are not welcome in punting the ladies deserve their privacy.

Stalkers are not welcome, period. Completely unacceptable and illegal behaviour. Can't understand what the guy expects to gain after being a total creeper.

[D-93]

Stalkers should be dealt with quickly because not only will it greatly disturb the one being stalked but eventually the stalker might take it a step further.

[Starstruck]

This is wrong on so many levels. Stalking itself is disgusting enough. The private nature of a WL/MLs occupation makes it twice as bad. Someone needs to teach that guy a lesson

[gentlescream]

For me, stalking suggests a type of failure to take some time to get to know the other person, share life & emotions, naturally contact each other and advance the relationship.

I don't think I've been 100% innocent, as I've asked ladies for their numbers and have been in SMS contact with some, but stalking to such an extent is simply ridiculous and unacceptable.

[AHLUNGOR]

I don't see the needs to stalk a WL or ML if the intention is sexually driven ! You can simply visit the shop and have your way with the lady in question - over and over again ! Why stalk when you can have the real thing ??

Unless there is something very sinister or sick or strange, which is beyond the boundary of sex and punting. Which then don't belong here really but more like an episode in Criminal Minds on Chanel 7 !!

Just my two cents

Cheers

[syphon]

For me, stalking suggests a type of failure to take some time to get to know the other person, share life & emotions, naturally contact each other and advance the relationship.

I don't think I've been 100% innocent, as I've asked ladies for their numbers and have been in SMS contact with some, but stalking to such an extent is simply ridiculous and unacceptable.
Gentlescream, If a girl happily gives you her number, and you have SMS contact with her, that is fine! It is not even remotely similar to stalking!

[fli]

Gentlescream, If a girl happily gives you her number, and you have SMS contact with her, that is fine! It is not even remotely similar to stalking!

I agree 100%. In the past, I have given my private mobile number to a range of girls. They can always choose to contact me or not. If they do, I use the number with discretion and would never push them but it is handy in case they move shops or for finding their schedule. Some girls have even become quite friendly and had a coffee or a lunch at a neutral spot. But in all cases, I am careful that they don't get into trouble with their shop and also I never try to find out about their other life beyond their comfort zone.

I think a couple have found me a sympathetic ear. One girl had trouble with her shop - another very naive girl had unwisely done BBS with a couple of clients and then had a panic attack about HIV when a nurse friend of hers discussed a patient with AIDS - I calmed her down, steered her to a good place to get a check up, while counselling her to avoid BBS in future. (She was negative when tested.)

These are my attempts to find the human face of the girls but I don't feel I stalk because I always let them set the bounds - the most I ever do actively is send a SMS asking how they are and I leave it if they don't reply. I never find out where they live, study or work outside the industry. Stalking is when you get information not freely given and use it to pursue the girl. I really don't understand that mindset but there are some amongst us who clearly do,

[IExperiment]

Sad people been the other way around and not a WL.
She said if I dont meet her, she will come to my place :( so I moved to melbourne for a month ...lol... dont know if she turn out at my place or not all she wanted was money at the end sick bitch.

[harmony]

IExperiment describes a woman purely motivated by a guys money

It must be scary when you meet a woman whos ONLY motive being with you is your wallet

Havent experienced that myself, but it sounds like a heartless woman

Now most women do appreciate a guys paypacket, dont get me wrong, but the majority will give as much as they receive, and you know its not all about the money

And of course many guys here have had relationships degenerate to simply be a situation where the guys only meaning is his money

But to start off with a lady whose INITIAL motives are money, thats truly scary

[Max Impact]

Sad people been the other way around and not a WL.
She said if I dont meet her, she will come to my place :( so I moved to melbourne for a month ...lol... dont know if she turn out at my place or not all she wanted was money at the end sick bitch.

If you don't like being stalked iExp don't let them see your cars lol!

But a Bunny Boiler is good for any man's ego.

[harmony]

Max Impact
I have a lady from work sending me uninvited sms, and Christmas cards

Shes about 30 years older than me, and has a cancer somewhere, and may have a brain disorder as a result, leading to irrational behaviour

Point is, that a Bunny Boiler can be a truly unpleasant experience

[Max Impact]

Yeh, I'm thinking younger than and sexy girl!

[harmony]

The original Bunny Boiler was older in Fatal Attraction I think (Glenn Close)

Have never watched that movie, must be a great one for the education of a young male though

[black knight]

No excuse, just respect the girls and let them live their personal lives as they choose.
Their work is just that and their personal lives should remain private if they choose.

I would hate a day when you couldn't get any form of GFE because of their fear
of revealing too much about themselves.

[wilisno]

No excuse, just respect the girls and let them live their personal lives as they choose.
Their work is just that and their personal lives should remain private if they choose.

I would hate a day when you couldn't get any form of GFE because of their fear
of revealing too much about themselves.
Well said ! You should change your name to White Knight instead ! :miao:

[harmony]

Im pretty naive

There I was thinking that GFE just means the lady makes you feel special, does DFK, and maybe a few other things like DATY, and or BBBJ

To me, GFE does not include getting to know her private life beyond the very basics

I wouldnt believe a word I am given, just as I wouldnt believe her real name is Coco, or Candy, or whatever

If a customer is really taking all that stuff seriously, isnt that when he really needs to find a real girlfriend ?

[foleyes]

I think it varies for each individual but there definite limits . For example wl tells you she is staying in a 2 bedroom apartment compared to her telling you the exact address.

[vvillie]

Divulging personal information isn't really about the girlfriend experience, but probably more about getting to know each other over time.

I probably know more about my regular ml than I should, like her real (korean) name, the city she's from, pictures of her family, etc. but this was more from our conversations inside and outside the parlour over a long period than anything else.

[foleyes]

I agree personal information isn't part of gfe in a brothel. I think gfe in a brothel is an attempt to recreate an intimate & personal interaction that is similar to a girlfriend. Conversation being a major part of this, and harmless information such as what you like, favorite food etc. I could be wrong but this is my impression of gfe whigh varies, as some or most wl are do not get that personal.

[foleyes]

Stalkers should be dealt with quickly because not only will it greatly disturb the one being stalked but eventually the stalker might take it a step further.

Stalking is a criminal offence I believe? Wouldn't it be categorised one step below rape?

[aussiegaigin]

I sometimes wonder about the legal implications, unless there is implied violence.

Think of all the celebs who have to resort to AVOs to get paparazzi off their trail.